The Trump administration is building a national citizenship data system
Posted by GregWilson23@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 120 comments
Posted by GregWilson23@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 120 comments
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
They're building a national database for everyone. This is sort of old news.
ArtisticCandy3859@reddit
Check out Palantir’s patents online. A few of them reference taxes, bank accounts, etc.
https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/static/pages/ppubsbasic.html Patent Public Search Basic | USPTO
Bastilleinstructor@reddit
People have been blowing me off for a while now about this kind of stuff. A friend and I had a long ass discussion about algorithms and what they were capable of even before the pandemic. He was getting his PhD in some sort of computer math I can't understand, and this was terrifying to him. We agreed then, 6 or 7 years ago, that in the wrong hands all of this data would be disastrous.
Here it is. All the data they need to track you, watch you and manipulate you if they so choose.
ArtisticCandy3859@reddit
Yep, anything is possible once they have each person’s IP address, social security number, phone number. From there, any other data can be matched with and meshed with everything else.
Bank accounts, daily routines, bed times, political leaning social posts, friends, purchases, etc. Everything.
Own_Biscotti_1909@reddit
Can you tell me what it is people should be afraid of? What is it we’re worried they’ll do with that information?
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Theyve been suing counties for voting data.
ArtisticCandy3859@reddit
Yep. They’re building a comprehensive surveillance system. It’s been 24 years since 9/11. 24 years of festering fear of any dissenters.
kilofeet@reddit
Should I send them my nudes now or wait for them to find them on their own? I'm not sure about the etiquette here
Bastilleinstructor@reddit
Lol!!!
dewdropcat@reddit
Do I skip the $2500 citizen renouncement fee if I get them to get rid of it for me? I just really want to live anywhere else.
ChromeAstronaut@reddit
Then fuckin leave.
I’ll say this-if this is your mentality now you’ll know EXACTLY how you’d react in 1930’s Germany. So kudos to you committing thousands to death. You’re doing great sweetie!
dewdropcat@reddit
We only got the nuclear bomb because of brilliant people who left instead of stayed. You can still help from another country.
ABELLEXOXO@reddit
We have atomic bombs thanks to Nazis in all honesty.
sdb00913@reddit
Idk where would take us anymore. Trump has pissed off the whole world.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
No. Lovong your country means making it better. Better, in this case, means less fascist.
Finna_Otter_91@reddit
Holy cow, calm down dude. Your blood pressure will thank you.
s1gnalZer0@reddit
You can but they will send you to either CECOT or South Sudan.
dewdropcat@reddit
Ive got dual citizenship with Canada. Maybe they'd help me.
throwntosaturn@reddit
Don't worry we're just killing those ones now. Wouldn't wanna accidentally ship someone back to a country that doesn't suck.
carlitospig@reddit
McCarthy is in his grave having the time of his life right now.
Gryphin@reddit
The tree above McCarthy grave isn't a tree. Its actually a raging hardon from the grave.
s1gnalZer0@reddit
I'm old enough to remember the republicans in my state strongly opposing real ID because they were worried about privacy and afraid the government would build a database to track everybody. Now, they give full throated support to whatever trump feels like doing any given day.
SkydronesMetal@reddit
Full throated, deep throated, eager and submissive.
R-K-Tekt@reddit
They’re cuckolds
AsyncEntity@reddit
Deep throat sounds deep the dick comes out their ass
aguynamedv@reddit
It's definitely strange how many of these Big Strong Men(tm) will call a senile 80 year old "Daddy" without any hint of irony.
ReVo5000@reddit
Begging for more throat rape
s1gnalZer0@reddit
Cupping the balls and everything!
BloodWorried7446@reddit
teabag party
Griever114@reddit
Right in the pussy!
level9000warlock@reddit
Unfortunately that's because the lawmakers who actually gave a damn about the country have all retired because they don't want to be a part of this shit show...
What a time to be alive...
PoorFilmSchoolAlumn@reddit
You must be at least 15 years old!
AliciaKills@reddit
Said no republican, ever.
Mantis-13@reddit
They do tend to prefer them younger.
AliciaKills@reddit
Said no republican, ever.
sudoku7@reddit
Like ... it's literally the reason that Social Security Numbers are intentionally designed to not be secure. And ... ya...
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Social security numbers are designed notnsecure because thebsystem was developed in the 30s and was never meant to sub in as a national identification system.
LkHopatcongGuy@reddit
This
SellOpposite5697@reddit
The Repugnicants for you.
Gaslight
Obstruct
Project
Dangerous-Echo8901@reddit
Republicans don't have principles beyond finding new groups they can pin all their problems on.
They don't hate government, they hate government because it supposedly took their tax dollars and gave it to black people.
Once you realize all their grandstanding about "the government" only applies to helping people they hate - at the expense of their ability to hate them. It makes more sense
s1gnalZer0@reddit
They don't hate government, they just hate not controlling it.
Playful_Possible_379@reddit
Their fear of being irrelevant has them supporting and aligning with Apartheid loving South Africans and Israelites who really want this, a caste system.
Look at behaviors,actions, and history. The so-called conservatives seek to conserve an idea of powerful men before 1920s. Shoot they event have The second largest diaspora of Indians outside of India is south Africa too. These are People are who are insecure and are oppressive and want the same for us all. And can't see past their insecurities.
America will become a trophy for evil because we didn't put consequences on these assholes when we had the opportunity to do it.
SOF_cosplayer@reddit
There it is conservative Christians. The mark of the beast.
EnlightenedCorncob@reddit
Time to go back to Ham radios and burner phones
here4daratio@reddit
So, no need for voter ID then, right?
And all citizens will be registered to vote based off this data, right?
mlrphan@reddit
Not all elections are limited to citizens.
OR: Non-citizens can vote in some elections.
Registering to vote should be separate
Actual-Outcome3955@reddit
No they’ll join it to voter registration and just make a new database with the intersection of R and registered. No one else can vote.
scarletroyalblue12@reddit
What is the “hard on” about this citizenship thing? Why is it such a big deal now? People touch on it, but I haven’t seen/read the real reason for it.
Does anyone know?
Bellegante@reddit
Conservatives want to feel powerful - which they can accomplish by taking power from others.
Non citizens being punished means citizens (them) get to be more powerful.
UberWidget@reddit
There is a book that came out about 15 or 20 years ago that used statistics to show that if immigration and birth rates kept going at the rate they were going, Republicans would become a permanent minority around 2040. They are trying to prevent that.
socialmedia-username@reddit
My hypothesis is that illegal immigration is being used as the "common enemy" to get people acclimated to these giant steps they've been taking towards authoritarianism and a police state.
How else are they going to get people to accept warrantless searches/arrests and punishment without due process? Or building a database containing information on each US citizen to eventually use it against anyone who steps out of line? Or bring down institutes of higher education? How about deploying the US military against US citizens?
This is all just foot-in-the-door shit being done in the name of combating "illegal immigration". It's no wonder Trump's puppeteers were so angry about Biden's immigration reform bill. If it had passed it would have taken away their ability to implement Project 2025 and install complete authoritarian control, or at least made them look worse doing it.
oldtimehawkey@reddit
The easiest “other” to “other” is immigrants.
Even Hitler started there.
crockett05@reddit
Where are all those so called patriot's who raged over Obama and ACA claiming they were building national databases to violate our rights..
It seems more and more they were always just racist who only needed the "right" set of boots to lick..
FredGarvin80@reddit
So what you're saying is, that this isn't anything new
One-Dot-7111@reddit
The database is new. Don't be a shit
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
The national database is absolutely new.
crockett05@reddit
Selection outrage? No, it's been going on for years..
celestialseeds@reddit
paid actors
SmokeSmokeCough@reddit
They’re on their knees gargling balls where they’ve always been.
WeRtheEyeoftheSTORM@reddit
Next we will all have a chip implanted. Science fiction coming true.
Impossible-Inside-43@reddit
They ( the NSA) have this and for sometime now !
LuciaV8285@reddit
Diabolical
123ihavetogoweeeeee@reddit
What happens when someone is deleted from this system?
Irverter@reddit
As a foreigner I'm somewhat perplexed. You guys didn't have that? How come you didn't have a database of who is citizen of your country? How do you even verify someone's documents?
123ihavetogoweeeeee@reddit
That's the thing, we didn't have to show documents unless we were trying to claim benefits.
bearinghewood@reddit
You think they didn't already have access to every bit of data about you? This is not a thing.
MostNet6719@reddit
It’s all leading to a national ID card - which you will have to show to buy things like food or gasoline.
ARODtheMrs@reddit
That's not all. https://youtu.be/dpE3feBwHCM?si=7PzP2XrBqFFHyzIj
oldcreaker@reddit
Betcha even with this information ICE would continue to detain US citizens
Ill-Benefit9962@reddit
So US making databases like all of EU already has is fascism? Only the US would allow 10-15% of its population to enter illegally , give them full rights for hospitals, schools, driving etc and then have those same people have the balls to go protest and give interviews on TV with their full face and name. This shit wouldn’t fly anywhere for a minute let alone decades.
Leading-Put-7428@reddit
Th Great Russian Whataboutism, seen in the wild on the great savanna of Reddit, peeks its head out of a whole before shitting all over the conversation.
Ill-Benefit9962@reddit
The great western post-religious arrogance, where bible thumping has been replaced by fake empathy and “I am better than thou based on my ethics and morals” but it is surely, absolutely, 100% different from the arrogance of the colonialists.
Leading-Put-7428@reddit
Another whataboutism! That’s another watered down brewski for you comrade, Putin is so proud of you!
Ill-Benefit9962@reddit
In a classical idiot fashion, you are equating modern Russia with a billionaire on top with communism. Please read an encyclopedia, anything printed after 1990. Your references are several decades incorrect. But my words are wasted here as is my energy. 👋
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
No country in the EU has a system like they're building. This is closer to China's social credit system where everything about you is in one place. Plus, it's the fascists that make it fascist.
The people protesting and getting deported are actually legal migrants. Trump revoked their legal status unde DACA/DAPA.
Protesting is quite legal everywhere lol. And in other countries you dont have to worry about getting denaturalized and renditioned to Rwanda and South Sudan.
Ill-Benefit9962@reddit
Your head is so far up your ass that I’m surprised you saw my post. Actually, all EU countries have this law because EU sets guidelines for all member states.
Why didn’t you address which other country on the planet has 15% illegal immigrant population?
And again if you took your head out of your ass you’d know that UK has been sending people to Rwanda and few other places for few years. The great fascist UK.
And as someone that lived in EU, you have no clue wtf you’re talking about. It started off as a trade block in 1950s. Minus several aspects of a federal government, EU by all means is a governing body which sets legislature which has to be adopted by member states.
Again, this is hard to understand because you’re so hysterical however Germany, Austria and France recently did transportation checks on public trains asking for “papers please” and deported illegals. Are they fascists too for trying to enforce laws?
Also if illegal immigration is not a problem, why can’t we ALL just travel to Mexico and other places without our passports? Let’s make it “equitable”.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
This word does not mean what you think it means, and no, no EU country has a privatized database of literally every bit of Federsl info on all citizens. That's why you cant back up your claim with verifyable examples.
Because this is completely false. Again, you can't back it up with a verifyable source because it's a lie.
Trump literally removed legal status from hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants by gutting DACA/DAPA and a few other programs. One example
These are not illegals being deported.
We can if we do so legally through a program like DACA/DAPA. That's what the deportees did.
Ill-Benefit9962@reddit
You are an absolute moron. “Literally every bit of federal info on citizens” article posted LITERALLY states it’s a database to figure out who is a citizen and who is not and not combining every database into one. That is just fear based speculation.
Everything else points to the fact that logic and reason are not your friends and you running away from any argument which contradicts your preestablished stance. And I won’t argue with you about your emotions because if you’re an adult and they should be in check.
s1gnalZer0@reddit
Wait I thought maga didn't want us to be like Europe?
BibendumsBitch@reddit
Too bad Trump won’t live long enough to see it come to fruition in his old age
Unique-Sock3366@reddit
They’ll train some shitty AI to use Truth Social with poor grammar and even worse punctuation and claim that they’ve uploaded Trump into digital immortality.
aab720@reddit
Hacked and erased…woops
Careful_Ad8933@reddit
Made me laugh...and cry!
BibendumsBitch@reddit
ChatGPT already does a pretty good job. It’s hilarious if it wasn’t so sad
eddieswiss@reddit
Oh god. You’re probably right.
milkylicker433@reddit
Wont live long but who be known for being a great president. MAGA!
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
You're delusional and in a cult
dismantle_repair@reddit
Sure, Klan.
scottyjrules@reddit
You honestly think this all ends with Trump?
BibendumsBitch@reddit
Nope, it will end when he tries to extend his stay if he lives long enough or if they try and prevent elections I think. And doubt it will be peaceful. But I will celebrate his death the same way I celebrated bin laden’s
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Youre right. Vance, Ellison, and Thiel will.
CatoChateau@reddit
Don't forget that slimy shitstain Yarvin and the creep who is hardest for all this, Miller.
Honest-Income1696@reddit
It's not for Trump, he's just a puppet getting a paycheck.
runawayjimlfc@reddit
Good. This is going to help counteract/prevent another shambles of a situation where our border remained totally open for a half decade.
Anyone who understands national security knows how completely absurd that was. I much prefer something like this to a fucking open border
kentonalam@reddit
. . . to kick out "those people".
It's always OK for the laws to bend to kick out "those people". When laws are believed to impact the "right kind of people", then the White Wing crazies start to hate the laws and the government.
That's the way it was then, and that's the way it will always be with the White Wing of America.
dnhs47@reddit
It’ll probably be as accurate as eVerify and the No Fly List, namely very inaccurate.
I can’t wait until some DOGE teenager decides I’m not a citizen, though my ancestors came here in the 1600s, and that’s what goes into the database.
And watch to see how simple it is for some political operatives to change your status - based on how you vote or your opinions on social media, for example - but impossible for you to correct it.
And just like that, I’ll be deported. Because the holy database says I’m no longer a citizen and I have no recourse. My passport? “That’s a fake, now get on the plane” says the masked thug.
UsefulImpact6793@reddit
I, for one, welcome our trump overlords
Zakgyp@reddit
And no one will do a fucking thing about it. Its over, we just dont know it yet.
DidntWatchTheNews@reddit
I already have a ssn
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
That's not a database of your info. It literally only refers to your social security info.
Galaxaura@reddit
Now they'll have your current and past addressee, your social media feeds, your purchases, your relatives, your emails, texts, private messages, your tax data and your medical records.
Unusual_Specialist@reddit
Yep! I pulled all of my money out of banks, deleted my social media (other than being anonymous on Reddit), sold my house, and have yet to change my license. Quite simply, I just don’t trust them.
Welllllllrip187@reddit
That will cause them to flag you more then likely, or in the case of that one elderly couple, presume you to have passed away, and wipe out any certificates etc you have left.
Definitelymostlikely@reddit
What even does this mean? A national citizenship data system.
Like credit scores? Social security numbers? A record of my google search history?
Tired of people just saying scary sounding words but no one explains or understands shit.
Painkillerspe@reddit
That's one of the issues. No one knows what is being collected.
Definitelymostlikely@reddit
How do you know they’re collecting anything then?
And not just organizing data that’s already available?
West_Kangaroo_3568@reddit
Is organizing data already available better somehow? What possible good comes from a national citizen database? This would be an incredible invasion of privacy under any president. They have census data, tax data, which includes addresses. Why do they need anymore data about you? Gathering even more existing data like social media profiles, purchases you make, location data of the places you go every day, seriously what good comes from that? This is the PATRIOT Act on steroids.
Are you really naive enough to think this vindictive, fascist, authoritarian regime is just "reorganizing existing data" to be more efficient? Sure we don't know specifics yet but the fact that it's even a conversation being had should be extremely concerning. And so help me zod if you say, "if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear".
Vocal_Ham@reddit
Pretty sure this has been reported and is something you can look up fairly easily. Here's just 1 article talking about it.
This is, IMO, the actual issue.
Data collection isn't new. That data already exists in various bits and pieces across different agencies and databases.
The issue is having a spiteful, vindictive, gov't consolidating and collating all that data in a way that can be weaponized against virtually anyone.
s1gnalZer0@reddit
The federal government intentionally put firewalls between data collected by various agencies to prevent the combining of the data into one large database they could be used to track people. Now, they are tearing down the firewalls and building the big database the republicans warned us about for so long.
CrumblingSaturn@reddit
if only there was some kindof article being shared that went into the details so we could learn more than a headline can offer. Alas.
Biotic101@reddit
They might aim to implement something like China:
The complicated truth about China's social credit system | WIRED
Keep in mind they at the same time also talk about mandatory "health trackers" and push anti-vaxx and anti-science propaganda, fire avian flu experts, while at the same time cutting FEMA and similar budgets, making healthcare and housing unaffordable for many.
This pretty much looks like Total War on Middle-Class to me, but maybe I just understand shit.
The insane part is that they target their own supporters - the current attack on the election system makes all the sudden a lot of sense. It seems they don't expect free and fair elections, so they can get rid of the "useful idiots".
I am super worried about the future of my children and I don't even live in the US, but Europe.
But Oligarchs are international and their ownership of Social Media is such a powerful tool.
We are all so fucked 😐
Jetfire911@reddit
Luckily, we have an excellent example in China's social score system. Everything you do at all times will affect it and everything you do at all times will require it. Sorry, no passport or driver's license or home loans or employment for you... you called Trump "cheetah hitler" in 2017 on twitter, that's 8 million demerits alone. Say the word union 3 times and they just black bag you. It's hard to say the specifics because once they happen... nobody is going to be openly saying anything.
EmpZurg_@reddit
Oh look, the hermit crab we call the Patriot Act has outgrown its old shell.
CrumblingSaturn@reddit
maga when they use their imagination and pretend bill gates wants to chip them: 😡
maga when the government says they're going to start tracking everyone but telll us it'll only be used against brown people: 🥹
jar1967@reddit
It seems that it's always been projection with the republicans. They accuse the other side of wanting to do something because they want to do it.
WinterMuteZZ9Alpha@reddit
Communist Chinese style social credit system coming to America in the not to distant future.
Actual-Outcome3955@reddit
Just like Putin always wanted.
5553331117@reddit
They been wanting to do this since the PATRIOT Act
AnomalyNexus@reddit
Surprised the US doesn't already have a unified system frankly. Dystopian privacy concerns aside it does kinda make practical sense
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Part of separation of powers thatbwas granted to agencies formed as "independent" by Congress. SCOTUS removed that independence.