Because the morons who defend this practise also hates tent city. This kind of shit is how you get tent cities.
The permit applied was for a garage. If he's willing to go through the trouble to actually build a fking house, why not start from there? Or you know, go to the outskirts, buy a bigger plot and build a bigger house.
Zoning laws exist in urban environment because you need to plan how urban sprawl evolve. So not every place end up looking like India land.
L*berals in the US do the same thing to prevent housing to be built. They sre more effective at pushing black and latinos out of their neighborhood than the Klan could ever hope.
NIMBY bullshit is one of the few bipartisan strongholds left. Go propose a high density apartment complex with gasp affordable rent policies. Those deep red voters will be up in arms
Nobody wants affordable housing near them because it brings violent criminals. I went to the second best high school in my state, lot of politicians kids more than 90% of the students were white and Asians were the second largest demographic. We got some affordable housing out in and within 3 years there were 3 kids arrested for murder and another 2 arrested for multiple counts of armed robbery. There were exactly zero other people arrested for violent crimes out of the 2,000+ students, but a single affordable housing apartment gets nearly half a dozen.
I will continue to be a NIMBY about this. Put the affordable housing in the places that are already poor so the people fit in.
It’s not racist. There were some black kids at my school that weren’t part of the affordable housing and most of them acted whiter than the white kids, very respectful and well spoken and behaved like model citizens. It’s the poor ones that are a problem.
Yeah you're absolutely right. It happens that a lot of poor people are black.
So liberals and racist people both get a bit of the truth: yes it's because of slavery, Jim Crow laws and invisible discrimination against black people in work/school etc. And yes statisticalaly a lot of black people do happen to be involved in crime, but not because they're black but because they're simply poor.
It's not necessarily out of desperation that every crime happens, but desperate people act violently in their social entourage, and just sow more violence especially in children witnessing it.
Ending desperation, upgrading life quality and education levels all help fight crime.
Except other poor demographics don't behave this way. There are so many minorities living in worse conditions that you don't even hear about because they cause no problems.
Cause no problems. Lots of people live in poverty black people have it easy relative to the rest because of the government support. You don't even hear about other minorities at all. Actual poor people work all day and are still poor and still don't go around mugging people. Black people sleep all day and commit crimes in the evening despite getting government housing, food stamps, and social assistance for each baby chimp they have. Schools in black neighborhoods even provide free bus passes to black kids. On holidays the vice principal and principal use the school budget to buy gifts and food and drive around the hood to hand deliver them to each black kid.
The kid then proceeds to break into peoples homes, gang up on strangers in the streets, rent airbnbs for parties, trash the place, rape some prostitutes, then go off in the night to shoot random people in their "rival" neighborhood.
I'm not well informed about this honestly. I believe that we should either believe statistic data or at least our own experience rather than other sources especially on social media.
If we assume that your assertion is real I would still respond with the following question: is the difference in behavior inherent to the skin color or some social fact which does not antagonize them?
If Affordable Housing means an enormous out of place apartment tower, then I can imagine having this reaction. If instead we allow incremental development, much like the picture, you don't have this sort of disruption. Imagine 10 houses around you turning into 11 over the course of 3 years via adding stories, finishing basements, backyard cottages. Not so disruptive, but spread that across a city and 10% inventory growth is massive.
Yea, fucking that'd be FANTASTIC. But a big reason you get those out of place apartments in a lot of cities is those are the only projects that can absorb the ridiculous legal fees for every geriatric who doesn't want anything to be built.
Get a voting base that keeps it's hands out of the pie, new laxer zoning codes (not every house needs to be a fucking ranch style), and you'll *actually* start seeing those infills.
Yep, it's mostly impossible with current restrictions. But the pendulum is really starting to swing the other direction finally. My city recently legalized ADUs and even single stair multifamily.
Yeah I live in a charming neighborhood where homes are pretty pricey but my neighbors house is section 8. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Everyone is so nice and friendly than in the middle of the street is a meth head who leaves her dog barking out all night and just throws her trash bags in the backyard for some reason. It's terrible... Luckily she got evicted (now homeless) and we got a great lady who moved in who we love. But why should our entire block suffer just so someone who would literally be homeless without the government taking care of her can larp like she is middle class and functioning?
Make it in line with New Urbanism and that’s great, but it’s fair to be against having your home area ruined with ugly buildings and environmental clearing. I live in one of the least affordable cities in the world, but you can’t solve the issue with pumping out apartment blocks everywhere, especially in the era of mass immigration.
It's not liberals only who feel this way, however liberal states have many more tools that allow NIMBYs to stall and prevent housing from being built.
This has been a recent topic in liberal circles largely due to a book called Abundance, written by Ezra Klein who is as liberal as they come. He examined policies in red states and blue states and essentially found that red states had much less restrictions on building housing and that availability of housing is the number one factor in housing/rent prices. Basically, well-intentioned liberal policies like environmental laws and zoning restrictions have been weaponized by the NIMBYs to stall or in many cases completely prevent housing from being built. Sure, deep red voters can be NIMBYs too, but in those states there's fuck all they can really do about it and the buildings do get built.
States that have been consistently controlled and governed by liberals, like California and New York, are places where it's extremely difficult for a developer to build new housing, while states like Florida and Texas largely don't have those restrictions, even in big cities.
Then you look ta the New York mayoral race and it's a great example of a city where liberal governance for the past 20 years has literally created a housing crisis, which now the liberal candidate proposes to solve with rent control, a proven terrible solution that has been tried many times and doesn't work. The city needs to relax the regulations on new construction and stop allowing NIMBYs to rule the day, but instead it looks like people who don't understand the basics of supply and demand will try to control the market by fiat.
Britain is a Kakistocracy. They actively make the life worse for commoners as they can. British elites approve of the rape of little girls. It's not an accident to them.
Far beneath Buckingham Palace near the core of the earth, is a secret council of Palpatine-looking 700 year-old elders. They have divined the secrets of immortality and have every power of earth at their disposal.
Their missions are complete, nothing more can be gained. So, to put into relatable terms: When you’ve 100%’d the game, all that remains is to kill every single NPC.
Of course, just murdering them outright quickly loses appeal; wolfing down your favorite meal brings little pleasure, you must savour it, enjoy every morsel, to extract the most pleasure.
And so, by creating and then pulling every small string of society, they can slowly vanquish the sanity of the masses - and with the advent of cctv, they can even observe the show from the comfort of their mammoth-skin sofa.
It's a combination of incompetence and not giving a shit; that's how things usually are when government gets involved like that. Everything is someone else's problem, and people jam their shitty principles into everything; DEI is huge in my local government, when I worked there. I doubt anything has changed there. I fought it as best I could, but there wasn't anything I could really do, and I had to toe the line; the good people who see all the broken shit either fall in line or end up in an adversarial position with management. Good luck with that.
You combine people whose livelihood and department budget comes from fucking people over, sprinkle in enough zealots that believe in stupid shit infesting management, and you get selective enforcement like what you see in the UK. It creates an uncaring engine of misery that can only sustain itself by screwing over good people, while no one who even wants to can do anything about shitty people.
all “legacy” news media is now equally as credible as Alex Jones’ Sandy Hook coverage, causing much worse harm/death than he ever did without any of the same consequences
That dude was busted for telling a cop he smokes weed. They did look at his phone, but not at the one JD Vance picture, they were looking at the dozens of pictures of this idiot taking fat bong rips
Your source for it being fake is the government. Good one.
He still stands by his claim that they cited "extremist propaganda" as a reason for his deportation. At any rate, being denied entry for photos from a WhatsApp group is fucking laughable.
If you knew how US law works, you would know why your statement is a lie.
Federally, marijuana is still 100% illegal. If a federal officer wanted to waste their time arresting people for smoking pot in states that have legalized it, they could.
Your legal system isn't complicated (maybe it is to you, since reading comprehension clearly is), which is why I explicitly stated it's legal at the state level.
If a state does not have a law saying murder is illegal, and the federal government says it is illegal, then it is illegal. Just because the local cops are not enforcing the federal law, does not mean it does not apply and the FBI or US Marshals can still show up and arrest someone for murder over the protests of the local cops.
The exact same thing applies to all federally illegal drugs. There is literally an entire federal agency dedicated to that, the DEA. If they wanted to, they have jurisdiction to arrest people for drug crimes all the way down to teenagers smoking joints behind the high school, even if the state they are in has legalized pot. They just can't tell the local cops to do it for them.
Because you keep repeating that it is legal at state level which is the irrelevant part of the equation, especially when the topic is border control, something that is wholly under federal control.
That guy himself has admitted he didn't even read the written letter he received which cited the reasons for being denied entry before going to the newspaper
It's very much about enforcing a standard. You can't just get approval to build a 5.3m long by 3.6m tall garage and then say fuck it and build two story, 8.7m long X 5.3m tall house instead. Imagine if your neighbours just pulled that same shit and built whatever random extra levels, extensions and mini AirB&B joints they wanted regardless of whether they had approval or whether it was impacting neighbouring properties.
I agree except for noise and smells. If I buy an apartment on the fourth floor and the first floor gets bought out by a business owner who guts it and turns it into a bar, I'm going full fucking Amon Goeth on every fucking smoker below my window.
Zoning requirements aren't a UK specific thing. You can't ignore safety and planning regulations anywhere in the developed world, unless you're in the middle of nowhere and not affecting anyone.
Brother in Germany it's even illegal to use your garage in any other way than parking space. For example you aren't allowed to park outside and use the space as storage
I think it's about taxes. Like you have to pay way less taxes for a parking space than a storage shed. Still pretty ridiculous if you ask me but the alternative would be no cheap garage
On top of tax reasons, it might also be to enforce efficient use of parking spaces in crowded cities. Each car left on street parking that could have been parked in a garage, is one less parking space available to people that actually need it.
Hold up what happens if you use it as storage? Does someone from the govt take the time to come in and inspect the placement of your doujin collection?
Depending on where you live there might be, it just generally takes someone to actually report someone to be enforced. Usually buildings must adhere to some form of code to be considered habitable (e.g. access to water, bafh facilities, and electricity) which most garages don't fulfill. In some areas it's even illegal to use your garage as a workshop (or anything other than storage of a vehicle). Again: it's usually not enforced but that does not make it legal.
In my town, if you convert your garage you used to have to build a new garage because you aren't allowed to keep a car outside for more than 3 days, even in your own driveway
Because the system isn’t designed to solve problems, it’s designed to preserve control. Housing “crises” keep people dependent on banks, landlords, and government incentives. If individuals started solving their own needs, by building without permission and opting out of zoning games, the illusion of state necessity collapses. That’s why a man building a modest home becomes a six-year enemy of the state. It’s not about safety. It’s about signaling: “Only we get to fix the mess we created.” the government isnt stupid, its evil
Because the answer to building a garage will invariably be yes, whereas you're not usually allowed to build another house on your property if it's in a residential area.
He was gambling on either no one noticing or being able to retro-actively apply for permission for the house. The government invite this sort of shit-housery because they have a reputation for being more likely to approve permission for something already built as opposed to when just submitting plans.
Gambling that the council wouldn't notice and that none of his neighbours would snitch on him. Plenty of examples of people that get away with this stuff for years before it catches up to them, this mad lad built a fucking castle https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/03/farmer-castle-home-haystack-demolition
People in here saying "what's the problem" are the exact same people who would complain if the property next to them was subdivided into four mini-apartments, each sold off to a family of eight Eritrean refugees. Fuck that noise, I don't want the housing density where I live to increase unregulated.
Is it, dumbo? Is it really that simple? Cos last i checked raping little girls is against the law too, theorically. Yet some people do that and get away from it no issue due to some interpretation of the law.
From my understanding it's about making sure the water systems are potable, the waste goes the right way, and stopping scumy landlords from turning every fucking garage into an extra rental while avoiding standards. Sure the guy got fucked but if it stops some private equity company from turning everything into habitation that isn't fit for purpose I cant complain on an ethical level. Morally that's different, hopefully he gets it up to code and has the council change it from a garage to a house. I assume it won't happen because they're lazy bastards but there's still hope.
Most people have little interest in participating in the bureaucracy, this has the side effect of letting bad actors hijack the bureaucracy for their own ends, uncontested.
This doesn't mean bureaucracy is inherently bad, it just means people need to give a shit about their local governments because it directly affects their day to day lives. Shit sucks in your town because you don't go to your city council meetings, meaning busybody karens get to run the show uncontested, unbeholden to anyone but themselves.
It doesn't help that those meetings and lowest-tier self governance groups mostly attract greedy assholes with a power complex who are too inept to make it as shittiest possible politicians.
There are commercial and residential zoning laws for a reason. If you own a business do you want a bunch of burnouts living next to it and driving away customers? Same reason I don't want my neighbor opening a taco bell in their home.
MikuEmpowered@reddit
Because the morons who defend this practise also hates tent city. This kind of shit is how you get tent cities.
The permit applied was for a garage. If he's willing to go through the trouble to actually build a fking house, why not start from there? Or you know, go to the outskirts, buy a bigger plot and build a bigger house.
Zoning laws exist in urban environment because you need to plan how urban sprawl evolve. So not every place end up looking like India land.
giant_shitting_ass@reddit
L*berals in the US do the same thing to prevent housing to be built. They sre more effective at pushing black and latinos out of their neighborhood than the Klan could ever hope.
JohnDeere@reddit
NIMBY bullshit is one of the few bipartisan strongholds left. Go propose a high density apartment complex with gasp affordable rent policies. Those deep red voters will be up in arms
CeliacPhiliac@reddit
Nobody wants affordable housing near them because it brings violent criminals. I went to the second best high school in my state, lot of politicians kids more than 90% of the students were white and Asians were the second largest demographic. We got some affordable housing out in and within 3 years there were 3 kids arrested for murder and another 2 arrested for multiple counts of armed robbery. There were exactly zero other people arrested for violent crimes out of the 2,000+ students, but a single affordable housing apartment gets nearly half a dozen.
I will continue to be a NIMBY about this. Put the affordable housing in the places that are already poor so the people fit in.
vmpafq@reddit
Almost everyone thinks this way yet those same people try so hard to pretend they're not racist.
CeliacPhiliac@reddit
It’s not racist. There were some black kids at my school that weren’t part of the affordable housing and most of them acted whiter than the white kids, very respectful and well spoken and behaved like model citizens. It’s the poor ones that are a problem.
ememsee@reddit
Poor ones as in poor people or poor black people specifically?
CeliacPhiliac@reddit
Poor people in general. Really anyone that embraces the ghetto culture.
Electronic_Leek9147@reddit
Yeah you're absolutely right. It happens that a lot of poor people are black.
So liberals and racist people both get a bit of the truth: yes it's because of slavery, Jim Crow laws and invisible discrimination against black people in work/school etc. And yes statisticalaly a lot of black people do happen to be involved in crime, but not because they're black but because they're simply poor.
It's not necessarily out of desperation that every crime happens, but desperate people act violently in their social entourage, and just sow more violence especially in children witnessing it.
Ending desperation, upgrading life quality and education levels all help fight crime.
vmpafq@reddit
Except other poor demographics don't behave this way. There are so many minorities living in worse conditions that you don't even hear about because they cause no problems.
jarizzle151@reddit
Cause no problems? Or have problems (I.e. living in poverty) that don’t bother you, but since it doesn’t effect you…there are no problems
vmpafq@reddit
Cause no problems. Lots of people live in poverty black people have it easy relative to the rest because of the government support. You don't even hear about other minorities at all. Actual poor people work all day and are still poor and still don't go around mugging people. Black people sleep all day and commit crimes in the evening despite getting government housing, food stamps, and social assistance for each baby chimp they have. Schools in black neighborhoods even provide free bus passes to black kids. On holidays the vice principal and principal use the school budget to buy gifts and food and drive around the hood to hand deliver them to each black kid.
The kid then proceeds to break into peoples homes, gang up on strangers in the streets, rent airbnbs for parties, trash the place, rape some prostitutes, then go off in the night to shoot random people in their "rival" neighborhood.
Electronic_Leek9147@reddit
I'm not well informed about this honestly. I believe that we should either believe statistic data or at least our own experience rather than other sources especially on social media.
If we assume that your assertion is real I would still respond with the following question: is the difference in behavior inherent to the skin color or some social fact which does not antagonize them?
Lord_Xandy@reddit
You can be racist and still understand how a bell curve works. Of course there's gonna be some good ones.
captepic96@reddit
i'm not pretending
reddit_has_fallenoff@reddit
I am racist and this is how i think
BluMonday@reddit
If Affordable Housing means an enormous out of place apartment tower, then I can imagine having this reaction. If instead we allow incremental development, much like the picture, you don't have this sort of disruption. Imagine 10 houses around you turning into 11 over the course of 3 years via adding stories, finishing basements, backyard cottages. Not so disruptive, but spread that across a city and 10% inventory growth is massive.
IronicRobotics@reddit
Yea, fucking that'd be FANTASTIC. But a big reason you get those out of place apartments in a lot of cities is those are the only projects that can absorb the ridiculous legal fees for every geriatric who doesn't want anything to be built.
Get a voting base that keeps it's hands out of the pie, new laxer zoning codes (not every house needs to be a fucking ranch style), and you'll *actually* start seeing those infills.
BluMonday@reddit
Yep, it's mostly impossible with current restrictions. But the pendulum is really starting to swing the other direction finally. My city recently legalized ADUs and even single stair multifamily.
IronicRobotics@reddit
Nice!
Kurt805@reddit
That was true in like the 90s, but these days you'd just get a bunch of millennials with liberal arts degrees.
vmpafq@reddit
Blacks always have priority for government housin\g. Usually because they're pregnant.
CeliacPhiliac@reddit
The murders and robberies happened between 2016 and 2019, so not the 90s.
countrybreakfast1@reddit
Yeah I live in a charming neighborhood where homes are pretty pricey but my neighbors house is section 8. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Everyone is so nice and friendly than in the middle of the street is a meth head who leaves her dog barking out all night and just throws her trash bags in the backyard for some reason. It's terrible... Luckily she got evicted (now homeless) and we got a great lady who moved in who we love. But why should our entire block suffer just so someone who would literally be homeless without the government taking care of her can larp like she is middle class and functioning?
JohnDeere@reddit
That’s fine. The contention was that it was liberals only that feel this way.
vmpafq@reddit
Yet the average person tries so hard to pretend they're not racist. So annoying.
Dreams_Are_Reality@reddit
Make it in line with New Urbanism and that’s great, but it’s fair to be against having your home area ruined with ugly buildings and environmental clearing. I live in one of the least affordable cities in the world, but you can’t solve the issue with pumping out apartment blocks everywhere, especially in the era of mass immigration.
jmarFTL@reddit
It's not liberals only who feel this way, however liberal states have many more tools that allow NIMBYs to stall and prevent housing from being built.
This has been a recent topic in liberal circles largely due to a book called Abundance, written by Ezra Klein who is as liberal as they come. He examined policies in red states and blue states and essentially found that red states had much less restrictions on building housing and that availability of housing is the number one factor in housing/rent prices. Basically, well-intentioned liberal policies like environmental laws and zoning restrictions have been weaponized by the NIMBYs to stall or in many cases completely prevent housing from being built. Sure, deep red voters can be NIMBYs too, but in those states there's fuck all they can really do about it and the buildings do get built.
States that have been consistently controlled and governed by liberals, like California and New York, are places where it's extremely difficult for a developer to build new housing, while states like Florida and Texas largely don't have those restrictions, even in big cities.
Then you look ta the New York mayoral race and it's a great example of a city where liberal governance for the past 20 years has literally created a housing crisis, which now the liberal candidate proposes to solve with rent control, a proven terrible solution that has been tried many times and doesn't work. The city needs to relax the regulations on new construction and stop allowing NIMBYs to rule the day, but instead it looks like people who don't understand the basics of supply and demand will try to control the market by fiat.
Longjumping_Visit718@reddit
Because they were the Klan "up north" but with better branding, and PR...
DrDMango@reddit
Woah, that's a nice house. Very 'traditional', what with the trim and the bay window and all that. Pretty!
TheMoonandTheThief@reddit
Did he have loicense for being white?!
streekered@reddit
He didn’t have a loicense
Pitiful_Special_8745@reddit
I swear there is a team of evil masterminds in the UK.
They sit down and consume copious amounts of coffee and Adderall to make sure they can stay awake WHAT EVER IT TAKES for the task to be completed.
That is, to screw as manu people over as they possibly can, bring sadness and despair to the country.
People looting, stabbing, stealing everything in broad daylight? - make sure they are not harmed and even give them compensation.
Angry comment pointing out that they are kind of annoying? - Straight to jail. (Avg 30 ppl per day gets locked as of today)
Either they enjoying this, so they are sadistic; or they are incompetent baboons.
Only one can be true.
jpedditor@reddit
Britain is a Kakistocracy. They actively make the life worse for commoners as they can. British elites approve of the rape of little girls. It's not an accident to them.
SleepWithYourWife@reddit
I've reported your comment because it seems to be unlicensed. Have a good day.
TechnicoloMonochrome@reddit
Based licensed commenter reporting the unlicensed
Ronin_777@reddit
Another unlicensedtard owned
Liamzinho@reddit
Something tells me you’re not from the UK
BeenEatinBeans@reddit
He speaks like English isn't even his first language
TechnicoloMonochrome@reddit
So he's probably from the UK then
SleepWithYourWife@reddit
Show me proof that 30 people per day get arrested for pointing out that stabbings are annoying
Ok-Independent-3833@reddit
That's what happens when you don't have guns.
AaronRodgersMustache@reddit
I’d rather people get stabbed in public than a guy mowing down a high school
Ok-Independent-3833@reddit
I don't care for mass shootings. They are minuscule.
What I care about, is tyranny. The government must be scared of us.
TraumaPerformer@reddit
Far beneath Buckingham Palace near the core of the earth, is a secret council of Palpatine-looking 700 year-old elders. They have divined the secrets of immortality and have every power of earth at their disposal.
Their missions are complete, nothing more can be gained. So, to put into relatable terms: When you’ve 100%’d the game, all that remains is to kill every single NPC.
Of course, just murdering them outright quickly loses appeal; wolfing down your favorite meal brings little pleasure, you must savour it, enjoy every morsel, to extract the most pleasure.
And so, by creating and then pulling every small string of society, they can slowly vanquish the sanity of the masses - and with the advent of cctv, they can even observe the show from the comfort of their mammoth-skin sofa.
Liberty_PrimeIsWise@reddit
It's honestly worse than that.
It's a combination of incompetence and not giving a shit; that's how things usually are when government gets involved like that. Everything is someone else's problem, and people jam their shitty principles into everything; DEI is huge in my local government, when I worked there. I doubt anything has changed there. I fought it as best I could, but there wasn't anything I could really do, and I had to toe the line; the good people who see all the broken shit either fall in line or end up in an adversarial position with management. Good luck with that.
You combine people whose livelihood and department budget comes from fucking people over, sprinkle in enough zealots that believe in stupid shit infesting management, and you get selective enforcement like what you see in the UK. It creates an uncaring engine of misery that can only sustain itself by screwing over good people, while no one who even wants to can do anything about shitty people.
rgtong@reddit
ORRRR you have been exposed to propaganda that makes you angry at the government.
When things sound too absurd to be real, it usually isnt.
UhOhPoopedIt@reddit
This right here, peak reddit comment.
No. I don't think I will.
rgtong@reddit
Ok so who do you trust?
AnotherScoutTrooper@reddit
this hasn’t been true for a decade
all “legacy” news media is now equally as credible as Alex Jones’ Sandy Hook coverage, causing much worse harm/death than he ever did without any of the same consequences
rgtong@reddit
Lol, are you a child?
FiddlesUrDiddles@reddit
Most often, news reaches the masses only after it's been heavily filtered by certain outlets for the benefit of certain corporations/organizations
rgtong@reddit
Answer my question
FiddlesUrDiddles@reddit
I can't. War has changed
rgtong@reddit
That it has
edbods@reddit
can't. need to get a tv loicense
rgtong@reddit
And thats how we get idiocracy.
edbods@reddit
sir i'm going to have to ask you to show your banter loicense please
Traffalgar@reddit
That's because they didn't kill their royal family, they're a bunch of entitled bastards
OldManChino@reddit
> 30 people per day arrested for commenting
kek, regards
Hedonistbro@reddit
This your country? https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/norwegian-tourist-says-he-was-denied-u-s-entry-over-jd-vance-meme-242338373653
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
>he fell for the literal fake news
oh no no no no
That dude was busted for telling a cop he smokes weed. They did look at his phone, but not at the one JD Vance picture, they were looking at the dozens of pictures of this idiot taking fat bong rips
Hedonistbro@reddit
Your source for it being fake is the government. Good one.
He still stands by his claim that they cited "extremist propaganda" as a reason for his deportation. At any rate, being denied entry for photos from a WhatsApp group is fucking laughable.
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
He was denied entry because on the form they give you that says "Are you a criminal or a terrorist Yes/No", his stupid ass checked "Yes"
You're right, I should trust a random Norwegian redditor pothead, that's a much more reliable source
Hedonistbro@reddit
A minute ago it was for taking bong rips (a legal thing in half your states).
haneybird@reddit
If you knew how US law works, you would know why your statement is a lie.
Federally, marijuana is still 100% illegal. If a federal officer wanted to waste their time arresting people for smoking pot in states that have legalized it, they could.
Hedonistbro@reddit
Your legal system isn't complicated (maybe it is to you, since reading comprehension clearly is), which is why I explicitly stated it's legal at the state level.
haneybird@reddit
And I explained to you why that is irrelevant.
If a state does not have a law saying murder is illegal, and the federal government says it is illegal, then it is illegal. Just because the local cops are not enforcing the federal law, does not mean it does not apply and the FBI or US Marshals can still show up and arrest someone for murder over the protests of the local cops.
The exact same thing applies to all federally illegal drugs. There is literally an entire federal agency dedicated to that, the DEA. If they wanted to, they have jurisdiction to arrest people for drug crimes all the way down to teenagers smoking joints behind the high school, even if the state they are in has legalized pot. They just can't tell the local cops to do it for them.
Hedonistbro@reddit
Again, this isn't lost on me or anyone. Why do you keep repeating it?
haneybird@reddit
Because you keep repeating that it is legal at state level which is the irrelevant part of the equation, especially when the topic is border control, something that is wholly under federal control.
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Non-American detected, opinion disregarded
Live_Ad2055@reddit
>media article about trumpf is actually a nothingburger
it's because he said he used drugs
Hedonistbro@reddit
This your country? https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/ice-kids-bait-arrest-woman-worcester-massachusetts-1235338539/
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Buddy, you're a britbong, you really don't want to be inviting people to post headlines
AnotherScoutTrooper@reddit
Well it’s clearly not her country that’s for sure lol
Live_Ad2055@reddit
No it isn't lol
mrheh@reddit
Damn right sissy
RaEndymionStillLives@reddit
That guy himself has admitted he didn't even read the written letter he received which cited the reasons for being denied entry before going to the newspaper
Live_Ad2055@reddit
kek
EquivalentSnap@reddit
It’s a joke but he didn’t have planning permission
nikoll-toma@reddit
Oi! you gotta loicense for that banter bruv?
NPR_slut_69@reddit
"I'd like to vote for fewer immigrants"
Ok sure, here you go, more immigrants
"No, I wanted fewer immigrants. I'm voting for someone else"
Ok, that's hate speech, and we're banning the party you voted for and we're going to arrest you and send you to Muslim Windrush Rape Prison.
Vivid-Smell-6375@reddit
I'm British and this is true
Please don't tell my Government I said this tho
TraumaPerformer@reddit
Oi! Dats a fortcrime, bruv! Am gonna av tew report yew tew da fortpolice! Yews gawin ta windrush mate. Mans gonna take it up da bum bruv.
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit (OP)
EU at its finest.
AnEbolaOfCereal@reddit
its not about enforcing a standard, its about extinguishing human life
cheapdrinks@reddit
It's very much about enforcing a standard. You can't just get approval to build a 5.3m long by 3.6m tall garage and then say fuck it and build two story, 8.7m long X 5.3m tall house instead. Imagine if your neighbours just pulled that same shit and built whatever random extra levels, extensions and mini AirB&B joints they wanted regardless of whether they had approval or whether it was impacting neighbouring properties.
centurio_v2@reddit
not my property not my fucking problem
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
I agree except for noise and smells. If I buy an apartment on the fourth floor and the first floor gets bought out by a business owner who guts it and turns it into a bar, I'm going full fucking Amon Goeth on every fucking smoker below my window.
roksprok@reddit
imagine buying a slice of air directly on top of someone else's slice of air and being mad at how they used their slice of air
CaterpillarLoud8071@reddit
Zoning requirements aren't a UK specific thing. You can't ignore safety and planning regulations anywhere in the developed world, unless you're in the middle of nowhere and not affecting anyone.
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
He should have left garage door. There is no law against living in garage.
On the other hand we are talking about Brit bongs so he may need loicence for that
Dark_Pestilence@reddit
"There is no law against living in the garage"
Brother in Germany it's even illegal to use your garage in any other way than parking space. For example you aren't allowed to park outside and use the space as storage
Arcane_Monkey@reddit
Is there a supposed reason for the law?
Dark_Pestilence@reddit
I think it's about taxes. Like you have to pay way less taxes for a parking space than a storage shed. Still pretty ridiculous if you ask me but the alternative would be no cheap garage
No-Admin1684@reddit
On top of tax reasons, it might also be to enforce efficient use of parking spaces in crowded cities. Each car left on street parking that could have been parked in a garage, is one less parking space available to people that actually need it.
canteloupy@reddit
Either that or the fire code.
FesteringAnalFissure@reddit
Hold up what happens if you use it as storage? Does someone from the govt take the time to come in and inspect the placement of your doujin collection?
desk010101@reddit
If you get reported, someone will come and check, then you have to pay a hefty fine and clear the space. It is rather ridiculous.
why43curls@reddit
With no warrant??
desk010101@reddit
Guess they don't need one.
Scrofl@reddit
Based
Cliftonia@reddit
What!? That is wild.
brightlights55@reddit
The British forced an owner to rebuild a heritage building brick by brick after they demolished it.. They take planning permission seriously
OldManChino@reddit
planning permission and listed buildings are very different things
regimentIV@reddit
Depending on where you live there might be, it just generally takes someone to actually report someone to be enforced. Usually buildings must adhere to some form of code to be considered habitable (e.g. access to water, bafh facilities, and electricity) which most garages don't fulfill. In some areas it's even illegal to use your garage as a workshop (or anything other than storage of a vehicle). Again: it's usually not enforced but that does not make it legal.
vmpafq@reddit
You could build a house that is habitable and then put a big garage door on it though
ParticularConcept548@reddit
Like he said, some asshat can still report it
redditsucks84613@reddit
I don't even live there, yet my hatred for the English government has no limit
meowmix141414@reddit
derjuden
el_smurfo@reddit
In my town, if you convert your garage you used to have to build a new garage because you aren't allowed to keep a car outside for more than 3 days, even in your own driveway
bebo117722@reddit
Plot twist: The man upstairs is just checking if you remembered to take out the trash.
LeapYearBoy@reddit
You mean the same gov't that opened the borders for mass invasion would actually stop legal citizens from making their lives better? Shocker.
smithridley@reddit
Because the system isn’t designed to solve problems, it’s designed to preserve control. Housing “crises” keep people dependent on banks, landlords, and government incentives. If individuals started solving their own needs, by building without permission and opting out of zoning games, the illusion of state necessity collapses. That’s why a man building a modest home becomes a six-year enemy of the state. It’s not about safety. It’s about signaling: “Only we get to fix the mess we created.”
the government isnt stupid, its evil
sleepingjiva@reddit
Why did he ask permission to build a garage then build a house? Struggling to feel much sympathy here.
KingOfYourHills@reddit
Because the answer to building a garage will invariably be yes, whereas you're not usually allowed to build another house on your property if it's in a residential area.
He was gambling on either no one noticing or being able to retro-actively apply for permission for the house. The government invite this sort of shit-housery because they have a reputation for being more likely to approve permission for something already built as opposed to when just submitting plans.
19Alexastias@reddit
He was gambling that no one would notice he built a 2 storey house on his driveway?
TobiChocIce@reddit
It's also Birmingham so there would most likely be like 6 to 8 people living in that one garage
KingOfYourHills@reddit
Gambling that the council wouldn't notice and that none of his neighbours would snitch on him. Plenty of examples of people that get away with this stuff for years before it catches up to them, this mad lad built a fucking castle https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/03/farmer-castle-home-haystack-demolition
supermurs@reddit
Oi governor you got a loicense for that house innit
_Rook_Castle@reddit
Imagine doing all that and still ending up in Birmingham.
TastyBerny@reddit
That’s the real story here.
Chi_Cazzo_Sei@reddit
Capitalism, in a nutshell.
back_reggin@reddit
People in here saying "what's the problem" are the exact same people who would complain if the property next to them was subdivided into four mini-apartments, each sold off to a family of eight Eritrean refugees. Fuck that noise, I don't want the housing density where I live to increase unregulated.
Magsec5@reddit
You broke the law simple as that
Stinky_Fly@reddit
Who made those stupid laws
instantlyforgettable@reddit
That famous guy, Mr Townandcountry McPlanningact
Aguacatedeaire__@reddit
Is it, dumbo? Is it really that simple? Cos last i checked raping little girls is against the law too, theorically. Yet some people do that and get away from it no issue due to some interpretation of the law.
TraumaJeans@reddit
Meanwhile much more severe crimes seemingly get a free pass. Especially when you are the victim
TheCynicalBlue@reddit
From my understanding it's about making sure the water systems are potable, the waste goes the right way, and stopping scumy landlords from turning every fucking garage into an extra rental while avoiding standards. Sure the guy got fucked but if it stops some private equity company from turning everything into habitation that isn't fit for purpose I cant complain on an ethical level. Morally that's different, hopefully he gets it up to code and has the council change it from a garage to a house. I assume it won't happen because they're lazy bastards but there's still hope.
xRamenator@reddit
Most people have little interest in participating in the bureaucracy, this has the side effect of letting bad actors hijack the bureaucracy for their own ends, uncontested.
This doesn't mean bureaucracy is inherently bad, it just means people need to give a shit about their local governments because it directly affects their day to day lives. Shit sucks in your town because you don't go to your city council meetings, meaning busybody karens get to run the show uncontested, unbeholden to anyone but themselves.
thesuperbob@reddit
It doesn't help that those meetings and lowest-tier self governance groups mostly attract greedy assholes with a power complex who are too inept to make it as shittiest possible politicians.
jmlinden7@reddit
The housing shortage exists specifically because the government stops people from building more housing, and that's because the voters tell them to
DraugrDraugr@reddit
Literally just needed to put a garage door on side and council would never know. Source: Parents did it once and seen landlords do it too
Doctah_Fauci@reddit
There are commercial and residential zoning laws for a reason. If you own a business do you want a bunch of burnouts living next to it and driving away customers? Same reason I don't want my neighbor opening a taco bell in their home.
BenAfflecksBalls@reddit
Man who built penis exploding chamber refused loicense to operate
Aguacatedeaire__@reddit
Oh no, stay assured they would never refuse loicenses for such devices
They'd probably buy the patent from you too
In the future they'll be mandatory federal buildings
Zeus1131@reddit
The purpose of a system is what it does
SightWithoutEyes@reddit
It's about making you bend the knee. That's the point. If the outliers don't consent to the major abuses, the little people won't either.
jackassinjapan@reddit
If he had built a garage, he could have been prepping a full-sized bulldozer with concrete and steel plates to deal with the counsel.
initialwa@reddit
"nobody asked them to do" that's where you're wrong.
They serve the interests of the powerful who have properties. Of course keeping the prices high by limiting supply is in their interest
Independent_Gold5729@reddit
What is urbanism, what are regulations, he naively asked