.22lr takedown
Posted by LucianEldrich@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 85 comments
So with my wifes limited hand strength due to nerve damage one of our big preps in ammo is .22lr. She has a TX22 that she shoots like a dream and can punch half inch holes in targets at 7 yards. We are looking into some rifles for her and myself and I was thinking about adding a Chiappa Little Badger Takedown Extreme because it brakes down and fits in a weather resistant tube. Does anyone have experiance with it? It seems like a great backup/bug out rifle for our use case.
HorribleHufflepuff@reddit
I would recommend a Ruger 10/22 takedown with a Magpul stock. Very compact and functional. Carries two extra clips in the stock for a total of 30 rounds.
newagedefiance@reddit
I got a ruger 10/22 takedown with the magpul backpackers stock. The barrel locks to the underside of the stock. Also you can hold a 10 round mag in the maxwell, plus 3 other 10 round mags in the stock under the cheek rest, or 1 10.round mag and a box of 50 rounds in the camber in the cheek rest. Also in the handle you can store cleaning supplies.
mehConfluenceZ@reddit
There is a good selection of .22lr rifles under $300.
Industry_Signal@reddit
The ruger takedown is amazing, I don’t know about this one specifically, but others I have tried all have issues which, imho make them less than reliable. The M7 has a bad cotter pin that if you lose, it’s a paperweight, others need to be resighted, or have integrated case/stocks prone to cracking. Personally, I like the .410/22 versatility (even in a 1 shot), but if I was relying on something in the woods, the ruger’s the only one I’d take. The rest are cool, and better than nothing.
capebretonarmy@reddit
I have one and it’s great for what it is. I’d recommend a Ruger 10/22 takedown and I also have a Marlin Papoose that I love. The Chiappa with subsonic ammo is very quiet.
CarelessOrder5150@reddit
My Papoose is my favorite gun. Still have the wrench 😁
Surfyo@reddit
Mossberg Plinkster is a solid 22lr that have great reviews, shoot most brands and is half the cost of the simplest 10/22. The mags are cheaper too. They are lightweight, durable, and easy to maintain. Not as popular as 10/22. I swear by mine.
I added red dot, sling and a trigger kit and Im still less than a Ruger
Ok-Force-4067@reddit
Tldr 10/22 tactical takedown with some mods.
Go with the 10/22 tactical takedown in the magpul backpacker. You can add a scope or red dot(the henry doesnt store with optics), there are cheek risers to deal with the added height over bore. Stock holds 3 bx10 mags under the riser, or 1 bx10 mag and a 50rnd box(with some extra space). Keep batteries for optics and hex keys for mounts in the grip storage. Tactical model is threaded and 1022s make stellar hosts. You can also find an amazing array of accessories for accesability(extended mag release or bolt handles if her hands are getting tougher to use). Add the MOE butt pad and a buffer pin for a little extra length of pull and recoil mitigation on the shoulder. You can also mod in some side rails should you desire a light, bottom rails will not allow the stow feature to work. Get the qd sling mount cups.(again I dont think the Henry has a sling option) chiappa is the lightest and cheapest but arguably the slower assembly, single shot. Henry lacks the option to accessorize or modify but gains mags. 1022 costs more and is heaviest than the others but gives best bang for buck.
Green-Ad-7823@reddit
My wife loves that rifle, especially with the supressor. Unfortunately, she can't shoot anymore due to her vision, and we will be selling it.
Ok-Force-4067@reddit
Its already a pussycat. I can only imagine it with a can and subsonics. Probably sneeze with more recoil🤣
Green-Ad-7823@reddit
The only thing quieter is my Ruger 22 bolt-action with a suppressor and subsonic ammo. The loudest sound you hear is what you hit. Not nearly as light as the 10/22 backpack rifle.
KJHagen@reddit
If I’m not mistaken, that’s a single shot rifle. It’s small, light, and inexpensive, but you might want to consider a Ruger 20/22 Takedown. It costs a lot more, but allows follow up shots.
spoosejuice@reddit
If they want an even smaller/lighter option they could go with the 10/22 Charger pistol with a folding brace. There’s even a takedown version and a 9mm charger.
LucianEldrich@reddit (OP)
Ill have to shop around for those too. Thank you for the suggestion.
KJHagen@reddit
I have an old Marlin 39A lever action rifle. It DOES break in two for cleaning, but it has a long barrel so it may not be what you’re looking for.
Malyfas@reddit
The Marlin is still small, light and very reliable.
KJHagen@reddit
I've taken more game with my Marlin 39A than any other rifle. Mine still has the cheap 4x scope that came with it almost 50 years ago, but I hope to put something better on it this year. It holds 19 rounds of .22 LR, so that's a big plus too.
GrillinFool@reddit
Or meet in the middle with a Henry AR7
LucianEldrich@reddit (OP)
I actually didnt think about the AR7 which I know can fit in its own stock. Thank you very much for that suggestion.
Revolutionary-Half-3@reddit
The AR7 is definitely not as durable as a Ruger 10/22TD.
My AR7 works fine, but spare parts are a definite must-have. It's got some design issues, including a barrel that is just a thin liner wrapped in plastic. It's very much a survival rifle, not for volume firing.
A spare magazine, recoil springs and guide, and firing pin are recommended.
solarslacker@reddit
Any tips for consistent jamming on the AR7?
DeFiClark@reddit
Get a 10/22
JRHLowdown3@reddit
10/22 is a better choice than an AR7. I've owned three AR7s over the last 40 years, all were jammatic POS.
The best bet now a days is to find a 22 copy of your main fighting rifle, one that mimics as much as possible the manipulations of your standard rifle. I.e, one of the ARs in 22 or one of the GSG AKs in .22 When my son was young he started training on a GSG .22 AK, the manipulations are very similar to a regular AK. When he was about 12 and started on a full size AK, he had the manipulations down pat and the transition to a full size rifle was easy.
Old_Fossil_MKE@reddit
I have a 9mm PCC that my wife still has issues with.
After reading other Reddit posts regarding arming wives and older teens, I've been considering getting her this.
The Ruger Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. announces that owners of America's most popular autoloading rimfire rifle, the Ruger® 10/22®, can enjoy the extended fun offered by the new 25-round BX-25™ magazine. The new, genuine Ruger BX-25 magazine features the same correct angle feed lips that deliver the famous reliability of factory BX-1™ 10-round rotary magazines.
Significant-Gur4636@reddit
I have a a few ruger 10/22's they are the best 22.But also bought a Winchester wildcat 22 it's a great lightweight rifle. And it has the same magazine as the Ruger 10/22 so you can interchange mags.And the cost is around $230.00 so that might be a good option.
GrillinFool@reddit
I’d rather outfit everyone with 10/22’s. Lighter to carry and the ammo is much, much lighter, not to mention cheaper all the way around.
OneleggedPeter@reddit
The Henry Survival Rifle (AR7) is an amazing piece of kit. I can't say enough good things about it.
TacTurtle@reddit
Oddball suggestion: TPS Arms M6 Scout in 22LR / 410
Luckygecko1@reddit
I had one as a kid. I wore it out fairly quick. It has it pluses though.
biobennett@reddit
I did a post (3photos) to show both of them packed, completely unpacked, and put together (as they would be for use) for an AR7 and a 10/22 takedown with backpacker stock
XeroEnergy270@reddit
I'm very much not a fan of the AR7 because the barrel is offset a little to the side, and it is awkward to hold because the stock is pretty bulky. Not only that, it is largely thin polymer and not very durable.
DeFiClark@reddit
Or not. AR7s tend to have wandering aim and reliability issues, neither of which is what you want in a survival situation.
For takedown 22s, 10/22 is world’s above.
JRHLowdown3@reddit
I've owned (3) AR7's over the last 40 years of preparing. Every one of them was a jammatic POS. But then again I shoot a lot more than your average person.
petsruletheworld2021@reddit
I’ve owned a couple. They are awkward to use and have never had luck with accuracy. My go to would be the 10/22 takedown with the magpul backpacker stock if it’s within budget.
GrillinFool@reddit
Honestly, I’d go with a 1022 with a folding stock over the take down. I have both. The slight loss in portability for the folding stock is made up by the increased accuracy.
roberttheiii@reddit
I have heard of and had bad experiences with the AR7 in terms of reliability but my papoose was cheap and is very reliable given it isn’t quite as convenient a breakdown as the AR-7
Nobody232323@reddit
The Chiappa you might take out to shoot because you have to, the 10/22 you'll take out because you want to
CCWaterBug@reddit
That's my choice, I love mine
NWYthesearelocalboys@reddit
I'd just go with a Ruger 10/22, they make takedown models as well.
-Random-Hajile-@reddit
Best 22Lr I ever used an owned is Ruger 10/22 I have since upgraded to a takedown version but still Ruger 10/22 is best damn 22lr I ever played with eats pretty much anything up verse a lot of others which are more choosy with ammo.
Necessary_Face_995@reddit
My savage td .22 is a semi auto but the magazine is kinda wonky to load. If she can load em might be a good option
featurekreep@reddit
I agree it's a bit of a gimmick.
If you want to get her a dedicated .22 rifle I'd just build a lightweight AR in .22. Better ergonomics, lots of parts and optic options, and tons of options for barrel length, magazines and everything else.
KeyShoe5933@reddit
I've heard the Tippman .22 AR platform is absolutely outstanding as well. I've never tried one, but their site is always out of stock.
OneEyedDevilDog@reddit
Smith and Wesson mp 15-22, super accurate, super fun, perfect for small game.
IrwinJFinster@reddit
It’s a great gun. Mine is surprisingly accurate right out of the box.
OneEyedDevilDog@reddit
And surprisingly affordable as well. Solid choice.
jimoconnell@reddit
I got a Little Badger tdx and it's well made, but a bit of a gimmick in my opinion. The sights were my first complaint. The back one was plastic and had bits of flash in the circle.
I couldn't get an accurate shot out of it.
Still, no regrets!
I could easily take it camping or put it in a bug out bag.
LucianEldrich@reddit (OP)
Did you figure out a way to get more accurate shots out of it? I saw a video where a dude was getting inch groups at 25 yards but then saw some similar to your experiance.
KeyShoe5933@reddit
The sights are the weakest point IMO. You can drill out the plastic peep sight to clean it up, and that makes it a lot more useful.
I went ahead and put a small pistol sized dot on mine. There are also 1-2 3rd party rail/sight upgrade options out there.
jimoconnell@reddit
I haven't yet. I only took it to the range once, a couple of weeks back.
It does have Picatinny rails all around the barrel, so perhaps a scope?
KeyShoe5933@reddit
Another factor that people gloss over is maintenance/simplicity/part replacment. I would suggest doing a tear-down and cleaning of a 10/22 and a LBX and tell me what you think.
NOTE: There are options like the 11/22 out there as well. I haven't tried one, but I have heard it makes stripping down them a lot easier.
Overall-Tailor8949@reddit
No experience with the Chiappa but something else you might consider is a youth model single shot 20 gauge. Yes it'll have more recoil than a .22LR but it would arguably be more useful. I know my old Harrington & Richards was ridiculously easy to take down
KeyShoe5933@reddit
Noise is a big reason I picked .22lr over a shotgun. I keep my LBX as an emergency game gun. Break action with a Rugged Occulus is a "Click" noise. I've shot squirrels before and had a second squirrel a foot beside the other one. It just look over in curiosity as to why the one just took a random nap.
True_Way2663@reddit
.22lr vs 20G is a massive difference
LucianEldrich@reddit (OP)
I have a break action 12 gauge and a few other bigger caliber firearms that would be coming along with us. My wife has nerve damage in her hands from crushed nerves under her brachial plexus which could turn into no hand use so I was looking for something that if needed would be easier on her but still really compact and useful.
Overall-Tailor8949@reddit
Gotcha, even a 20ga might bump too hard against the shoulder area where that nerve cluster is.
LucianEldrich@reddit (OP)
Thats exactly my concern but i think a .22lr, .22wmr, or 17hmr would be fine and she knows the basics of hunting but would probably be with our 6 year old son more so than hunting but having a small takedown isnt a bad option.
KeyShoe5933@reddit
I have a TX-22 Compact and a LB TDX. The question I would ask, is what do you want your rifle to do for you?
Both can get game for you. Both are great plinkers (Yea, the TDX is slow, but still fun).
10/22 - AR of the 22lr world, reliable, ton of options, repeat fire
LB TDX - packs down TINY, reliable, minimal maintenance, minimal parts
A ton of people gloss over break actions and guns like the LBX because they don't look cool. Break action guns have put meat on the table for ages. If I was lone wolfing it, LBX all day. 10/22 is semi-auto, but I can hit what I aim at, and reload a break action fast. Hunting is a moot point. 10/22 would be better in a engagement with someone, but if I'm going to risk an engagement, I sure as heck want something better than a 10/22. The 10/22 would be fine for soft target control (politics aside, but similar to how the IDF is using them).
But, for range plinking, non-SHTF, yea give me a 10/22 all day.
KeyShoe5933@reddit
I get why people like the AR7, but it doesn't make sense to me personally. It's kind of the in-between pick for me and the worst of either world (10/22 vs LBX). If I want sem-auto, just go 10/22. You can't put a dot or scope on it, or you lose the portability of it (or have to re-zero it every time). It's not threaded either.
I'm not downing anyone for getting them, I just feel like they were made for a very specific reason, and they are sub-optimal for all other scenarios.
Spirited_Mammoth_269@reddit
RUGER 10/22
Siafu_Soul@reddit
I have to add my voice to the Ruger 10/22 train. We have one that is now working its way through the third generation in our family. When I gave it to my son, all I did was replace the ejector spring. It would jam about 1/50 ejected cases, but now it is an all day machine. And my dad never cleaned it during his time with the gun, So it's been abused and well loved.
livestrong2109@reddit
Honestly I'm looking at vintage .22lrs for the collection. A little 1960s 7 shot Remington with a scope would be a nice add.
Complex_Confusion552@reddit
These gum pepper posts, sigh.... Unless you kill everyone you meet you'll never know the other guy was going to shoot
IrwinJFinster@reddit
Guns are important for defense. But are also surprisingly helpful in hunting!
Complex_Confusion552@reddit
I understand your point about self sufficiency, however if you are thinking that living by hunting game will be a realistic scenario... Read 'The Road"
IrwinJFinster@reddit
I have 3-6 months of stored food, traps, gill nets, and an arsenal. If things look sketchy, I’ll bump the food up.
kalitarios@reddit
I am under the assumption that most of the animals in a true shtf situation will be hunted to extinction relatively quickly, including pets and livestock, fish and birds
IrwinJFinster@reddit
My doomstead is in the middle of a national forest.
Complex_Confusion552@reddit
Lol, gum
Disastrous_Hat4991@reddit
Savage 64 takedown is a cheap lesser known option. Similar to the discontinued papoose.. Don't forget that the ar15 is a "takedown" option as well.. The savage revel is a newer takedown lever action 22lr. I'd discourage a single shot/combination gun. In dire situations while your hungry tired and panicked,the odds of missing your first shots are high. Having a quick 2nd and 3rd shot important,dare I say mandatory for any "survival" firearm.
Winter_Persimmon_110@reddit
Ruger Charger is a great option. It's a 10/22 in pistol configuration. It comes with many trims, I settled on the 8" barrel without the takedown option
Then you can get a Sig folding brace like this and some optics of choice and you've got a mighty light tack driver. The charger and 10/22 are like the honda civic of the .22 world, there's just a fantastic selection of aftermarket parts. If your gat isn't light enough, you can get a carbon fiber barrel.
Plus, you've got a threaded barrel so you can get a suppressor. My suppressed 22 charger is crazy quiet and crazy light and it never jams.
Ar7 looks great but it's not well-reviewed. I've wanted one since I saw it in the Hatchet movie, shame.
rtice001@reddit
Ruger 10/22 is a beast. Just loves plinking and will keep doing it all day long. It's great for the scenario you describe. And the ground hogs fear it.
CTSwampyankee@reddit
If they have worked some kind of miracle on the "new" AR7, then apologies, but my experience with original one was that it was dog shit. Maybe 3" groups at 25 with sights that have crude adjustment. Mine was a jammer. Single stack mag low cap.
The 10/22 is the king by any metric you want to evaluate it with.
HerbDaLine@reddit
I have a Henry Survival Rifle, which is the new AR-7, and they are great. For those that have never had one read the fine manual [rtfm] because take down might be a bit unusual for those new to this rifle.
HerbDaLine@reddit
No experience with the Chiappa but I will recommend a Henry Survival Rifle. The only downside is the cost of extra magazines at about $30 each.
I took the rifle to a party at a friend's place. They had a safety berm for shooting purposes. Everyone, men and women alike, enjoyed shooting it and were more accurate with it than I expected.
IrwinJFinster@reddit
I, too, echo Ruger 10/22 takedown in stainless with magpul stock if she can take the slightly higher weight.
bikumz@reddit
If you’re gonna get a single shot, you might as well get the double badger unless you’re specifically looking for takedown. Even if you just put an insert to shoot another .22 2 shots is better than one.
jdawgie84@reddit
What about a 9mm AR pistol with a brace? Extremely accurate, larger caliber and easy to shoot.
gunmedic15@reddit
I found a stainless 10-22 Takedown with polymer stock and threaded barrel. It wasn't easy to find for some reason. That gun, QD scope mounts, a small cleaning kit, a Ruger Silent SR can, and a bunch of spare magazines fit in the factory soft case and it's an excellent go-bag rifle.
Saber_Soft@reddit
10/22 take down in a magpul chassis.
fucking-gay-ass-shit@reddit
10/22 takedown is awesome, i have one with the magpul backpacker so the barrel clips into the stock for storage. Ultra compact, sports extra storage within the stock for 3 extra mags and can fit extra 22lr or a lighter in the handguard. Honestly some of the best ergonomics as well. The only gripe with the takedown is that the irons dont hold zero because of the way the barrel interfaces with the reciever. The fix for this is a rail also made by magpul that attaches to the takedown lever that places a pic rail above the barrel.
East_Research_9688@reddit
I have the little badger and love it. I also have the Henry survival rifle that breaks down and fits in the butt stock, Its amazing also!
m855-556@reddit
Ruger 10/22 takedown
Ruger charger 10/22 takedown, put brace on
Henery ar-7
Marlin model 70 pss
All viable semiautomatic.22 takedowns , I don’t recommend a single shot.22 for anything
For something still tiny and packable, you could build/buy a .22lr ar15 pistol with a 4.5 inch barrel, with a standard brace it will fit in an average backpack, and with a folding brace or no brace it will fit anywhere. Probably the most expensive option but absolutely bad ass especially suppressed, still decently accurate (hit a silhouette at 100yards every time)
MongoMongo77@reddit
If you want a .22 that breaks down you can't beat an AR-7. Henry is now making them. They shoot as well as a rifle that comes apart can and are extremely durable.
_Ethel_Beavers@reddit
I’ve got a Chiappa Double badger chambered in .22lr on top and 20ga on the bottom. Doesn’t break down into as small of a footprint, but it’s a fun little plinker and pretty versatile. The 20ga has a small amount of kick to it, but the .22lr is almost unnoticeable.