Anon is entitled European brat

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orangy57@reddit

germany is just cvcked for killing all their nuclear power plants

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Why would you expand NATO right on their borders especially knowing how suspicious and security minded they are, it’s the EU stupidly doing whatever the US tells them to, which to insert a figurative wedge between the EU and Russia and isolate them politically and economically all the cost of the EU which is russias natural trade partner.

Honestly, considering the history of Europe, it’s shocking how NPC like and self sabotaging their behaviour is

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kktsh@reddit

consider the fact that Ruzzia was aggressive for all not related to NATO countries since 1994, And ask your question again.

Pathetic retard.

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Bl1tz-Kr1eg@reddit

Do you really wanna count Chechnya considering it was a renegade province that unilaterally declared independence?

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Mrpettit@reddit

Do you really want to count the example who held elections and declared independence prior to the fall of the USSR but was then invaded twice by Russia as an example of why former Soviet states became fearful of Russia?

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Ordo_Liberal@reddit

Because Russia was already invading nations on the border.

Transnistria 1992, Chechenia 1994, Georgia 2008, Ucrânia 2014...

It makes sense the countries on its border would want to join NATO to prevent them from being invaded.

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Philcherny@reddit

You're tripping, the relevant part of NATO expansion was happening already in 1998-2004. Out of two relevant examples, Transnistria was a conflict that developed without Russia. It didn't invade, it intervened in existing war with troops that were already there. Meanwhile Chechnya (how that's spelled fyi) is as much of a sovereign land of Russia as Crimea is of Ukraine, not "nation on the border".

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Mrpettit@reddit

Chechnya held elections and declared independence prior to the fall of the USSR.

If Russia wasn't a threat to its neighbors and former Soviet states then why would they all ask to join NATO?

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REDDITWONTWORK@reddit

LMFAO counter terrorism in Chechnya and peacekeeping in transnistria, which is why they're still there, right? That's despite numerous requests and an actual agreement they broke. Furthermore, I would argue that Chechnya being anti terror is very contentious since there's a strong likelihood that Chechnya did not cause the aparment bombings. Lastly, if Russia invaded Chechnya for an antiterror operation, so did the US for Afghanistan, which makes it perfectly okay, right? Have no idea what you mean about Bosnia, and Ukraine is a yeah since Russia loves to fund and actively supply separatists.

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Philcherny@reddit

I didn't say anything about bombings, bots. I simply stated how the "invasion of Chechnya" is called.

And no it's not perfectly ok. But it's goddamn close to being perfectly ok. Same with counter terrorist operation in Donbas, right ???¿

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hitraptor@reddit

Chechnya is a "sovereign state" but Kadyrov is an actual Russian puppet. You should read about Ryazan sugar if you're talking about Chechen war

Also, I like how you don't talk about the first Chechen war and Georgia. It's not about NATO. It's Russians being Russian

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Philcherny@reddit

Hello? Googling constitutional 1991 Russian border is free??? Why yap when u can just educate yourself via power of internet? ??

Nvm why am I being toxic here it is bro. Since you're an expert I bet you know where to find Chechnya on that map

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Ordo_Liberal@reddit

All country names are automatically translated to my native language by my phone. So it's Chechenia in Portuguese.

Russia is occupying transnistria to this day

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Blaesiluren@reddit

Moortugese

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Philcherny@reddit

Russia is occupying transnistria to this day

Why wouldn't they? You think coalition forces left Kosovo? Or were not taking their time leaving Bosnia?

And how is that relevant did 90s politicians expanding NATO had a future seeing magic ball? Let me remind you I was responding to this -

Because Russia was already invading nations on the border.

Which is just not the case. And if it was, the OP's point is about NATO's intent to expand, which was dumb and irresponsible not the whatever x country's willingness to join NATO is. Nobody is arguing with that, it's hardly surprising that any nations wanted to join the strongest military allience in the world with a free nuclear umbrella bonus and massive economic development boost on the side. Russia wanted that too btw.

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kuzjaruge@reddit

Invading nations on the border

Chechenia 1994

top kek

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this-is-very@reddit

Russia was free to expand its own defense blocs a-la NATO. Russia was free to use a lot of soft power in Europe and even the US. But the thing is, Russia could never compete. It could never become a real economic power because of corruption. Its NATO, CSTO, is a joke that couldn't prevent Azerbaijan and Armenia from fighting, its soft power is just... more corruption. It started the war not because of NATO, but right after its puppet failed in turning Ukraine into a puppet state and ran away to Russia like a little bitch after betraying his people.

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SkibididdyOhio@reddit

be EU

have profitable synergy with Russia giving you cheap resources

let the US dictate your policy and interfere in your area by fucking with Russia as much as they want

shut down German nuclear facilities cuz muh environment

block all importations of fuel from your main supplier cuz they don't respect femboy rights

let useless neighbouring shithole blow up your main pipeline

pay the US x10 for their gas

your entire industry goes to shit, Germany in recession

????

profit

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Alex_13249@reddit

I mean, it is really retarded to stop using nuclear. Going mainly nuclear would be ideal.

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Ordo_Liberal@reddit

Are you implying the French are correct?

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PM_ME_GOOD_SUBS@reddit

Broken clock something something.

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Alex_13249@reddit

Idk, it is what we say in Czechia.

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Ordo_Liberal@reddit

France Power is 80% nuclear. Take the Baguette Pill

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Wimi_Bussard@reddit

And they are fucked because of that. Summers getting hot. Rivers dry. Cooling water scarce. They have to limit the output of their power plants regurarely now to avoid overheating. It's an immense technical difficulty. You never go all in. You diversify your risks - as always.

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GlitteringFutures@reddit

Never go full reactor.

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Zombpr@reddit

W-wuh? You do know that most reactors have a closed cooling system? It's how thermodynamics work. Source?

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Wimi_Bussard@reddit

It was a huge problem for France in summer 2022. Not enough water in the rivers and/or pumping back the hot cooling water into the rivers would make the river too warm. Same problem occurs right now, too, so I guess problem couldn't be solved fully up until today.

Maybe it doesn't happen with more modern plants, but a bunch of France's nuclear power plants use this method of cooling and are quite old.

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Ordo_Liberal@reddit

Yeah, my country is 80% hydro. Whenever we get a draught it's power shortages and rationing.

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Wimi_Bussard@reddit

Sad to hear. Water won't become more available in the future for most regions, I think. I hope your country already has got plans.

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Markoak1@reddit

France power has real problems on summer. Which every year starts early for whatever reason /s.

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Alex_13249@reddit

Fuck, I must kms then.

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TrajanParthicus@reddit

Be EU

Pursue utterly moronic, self-destructive policy of swapping reliable and abundant oil and gas for unreliable, intermittent, and expensive wind and solar.

US pushes this to happen while massively ramping up its own oil and gas extraction to the point where it now produces double the number of barrels per day as Saudi Arabia.

US is now vastly richer, largely because of a huge abundance of cheap energy driving growth.

EU economy has almost totally stagnated, in spite of importing millions of engineers and scientists from Africa and the Middle East.

Politicians double down on stupid policies because the average person is a barely sentient mutant without an inner monologue who is incapable of identifying the obvious cause of problems despite seeing clearly how much worse everything is getting.

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Istencsaszar@reddit

Oil and gas are not abundant in the EU you moron, we are investing in the other stuff so we can find a way to not have to rely on importing it

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maiwson@reddit

Tell me you don't know shit about economics without telling me you don't know shit about economics.

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HistoricalIce5@reddit

R*dditor for 13 years

Fascinating how you can always tell

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kuzjaruge@reddit

Active in r /Falschparker, Germanoid gonna germ

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tradermcduck@reddit

Or geopolitics for that matter

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SkibididdyOhio@reddit

Saar this is r/4chan, it's not supposed to be accurate or detailed. Also, back to your poopenfarten before Weidel-chan finds out your döner shop has no license and sends you back to Türkiye

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iVar4sale@reddit

The EU had nothing to do with Germany shuting down their nuclear plants. The Germans did that genius move all by themselves.

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storejet@reddit

The Germans are the EU lmao

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Aguacatedeaire__@reddit

The "germans" do literally nothing by themselves since 1946. Their installed puppet leaders do what their eu leader order them to do after they're ordered from the NA leaders. That's it, that's all.

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PaperDistribution@reddit

Germany isnt in recession tho. It's stagnant.

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Aguacatedeaire__@reddit

You americans are retarded. You're literally the ones that blew up the pipeline, as Bden literally open stated and as the polish minister thanked the USA right after.

And the ones losing the most from this are the germancucks colony.

Their industry is in shambles without Russian oil.

Russia was more than happy to keep selling them, they had zero reason whatsoever to blow up their own pipeline when they could just, you know? Sop pumping oil into it.... the mc donals fries oil has completely insulated what few braincells you had left.

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