Google's AI says the drawbridge I've been through doesn't exist.
Posted by 5043090@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 38 comments
I've been through it and will go back through it Saturday. (Fun fact: The bridge is very active and you have to give 3 hours notice to get them to open it, and they won't open it during rush hour. It's allegedly the longest bridge over water in the world at just over 24 miles. Also, it's old and the drawbridge part breaks now and then and they CAN'T open it.)
SailingSpark@reddit
Data Poisoning. AI will start to quote itself as it begins to find it's own information on the web.
5043090@reddit (OP)
The snake that eats itself.
SailingSpark@reddit
Oroboros
OrionH34@reddit
"I'm sorry, Dave. I can't raise the bridge"
5043090@reddit (OP)
Good one!
wilful@reddit
Just avoid AI, it's slop, and not at all difficult to not use.
Same_Detective_7433@reddit
It is not slop, what does that even mean other than you listen to the news? It is a work in progress, and is becoming damned difficult to not use.
(I am not actually trying to argue with you, but just trying to point out that you are throwing around the word of the week, and it is a meaningless word.)
And yes, AI is becoming integrated into everything. Android Pixel, unavoidable, Metas Whatsapp, unavoidable. You CANNOT turn it off.
Ignoring is not 'not using'.
Pattern_Is_Movement@reddit
Yes, if I don't use AI slop to affect my choices, then I'm not using it.
Same_Detective_7433@reddit
The voting would agree with you! lol
downbound@reddit
There are many who think pretending it’s not coming means it’s not
wilful@reddit
You are trying to argue with me, it is low or no value slop. Slop slop slop slop slop, sorry if that's too fashionable a word for you. I find it easy to avoid, and I maintain a life using computers and smart phones every day. It hasn't benefited me at all so far, and I'm not sure when it will.
windsostrange@reddit
DuckDuckGo, m'dudes.
euph_22@reddit
In particular Google's search AI is worse than useless.
nswatika@reddit
Google AI is constantly wrong, always always always check the links it claims it got the info from
iammiscreant@reddit
The fun part about generative AI is that it’s been trained on all the good information on the internet, and all the absolute rubbish that is prolific on the internet.
nswatika@reddit
In my experience it's good at finding relevant sources/websites but frequently misinterprets the content. I've also noticed that it sometimes will contradict itself within the same reply and it can change its answer depending on how you phrase the question
5043090@reddit (OP)
I agree. It's kind of like Wikipedia. It can give you the gist of a thing but don't cite it without more digging.
theheadslacker@reddit
That's because it's making up its answers.
hottenniscoach@reddit
Yup, just last week, I asked chat gpt. “Did Ray sleep with every woman on Dallas, besides Miss Ellie?” The response was no.
Then I asked “Did Ray screw Sue Ellen?” Again it said no.
This is how I know for sure that ChatGPT is a liar!
thehotflashpacker@reddit
I searched "events iny area this weekend ' it returned 2 events iny area that are weeks away but their webpages from the 2024 events used the phrase "this weekend ".
SpacePope5150@reddit
I chartered a boat to do some sailing around thanksgiving. I was impressed with weather and water conditions so late in the season. How's the racing scene there?
5043090@reddit (OP)
Pretty active. There are weekly Wednesday night races at the Southern Yacht Club and several races in the Gulf to various places. I'm not into racing so I'm not the best source of info.
Prize-Leadership-233@reddit
I'm a liveaboard in Virginia. Since I wfh, I've been batting around the idea of hopping marinas till I get to New Orleans and then being a liveaboard there. Do you have anything particular one way or another you would say to me about doing this?
5043090@reddit (OP)
Do your homework on which marinas take liveaboards and get on their waitlists. There are municipalities that let you tie up for a few days (usually 3-5 days) with power and water so those are good temporary spots but not long term solutions.
I'm moving to Mandeville and was on a wait list about 2 months before I got a liveaboard slip.
I'm on what's referred to as the NorthShore which is on the northern side of the lake. Here the townships of Mandeville and Madisonville have sea walls where you can tie up and a bunch of private marinas whereas you can inquire about a slip.
In New Orleans (NOLA - New Orleans, LA) proper, it's the New Orleans Municipal harbor.
I'm moving from Madisonville to Mandeville which are on separate sides of the Causeway, which requires 3 hours notice for a drawbridge opening and won't open during rush hour. It can also break. When I took possession of the boat in Mandeville, I had to wait 2 days while the bridge was repaired to get to my slip to Madisonville.
The thing I don't like about Madisonville is that a bunch of marinas are upriver of ANOTHER drawbridge (technically a swing bridge) that opens on the hour during non-peak traffic hours and as requested at night. AND that's on the Tchefuncte River which has a f--kton of powerboats piloted by drunken rednecks.
Also, Lake Pontchartrain is shallow. If you draft more than 6' it can be challenging here and there. When I shopped for a boat my cut off was a 6' draft.
Biloxi, Gulfport and Bay St. Louis (Mississippi) are on the Gulf Coast and have marinas all over. Those put you within a 1 hour drive of NOLA, if that's an option, and not in Lake Pontchartrain.
Note it takes a few hours to transit through the Rigolets (rig-o-lees) to and from Lake Pontchartrain to the Gulf.
Good luck and DM me if you want to exchange contact info.
theheadslacker@reddit
AI isn't real and doesn't actually know anything.
LLMs make up grammatically correct sentences. That's all.
iddereddi@reddit
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Elses_pels@reddit
Evidence of recent political trends indicates that this is highly accurate. And seems to be a great system because more people are supporting it. Be one of us and don’t complain
Bregir@reddit
The ai responses at Google searches is the worst possible marketing for Google Gemini. It just keep getting stuff absurdly wrong. With great confidence, I might add.
REDDITSHITLORD@reddit
google AI once claimed that 200ft is the equivalent to a 1000ft building. It's basically an American being handed the metric system, and an owners manual for a 1987 Fisher VCR.
WayAgreeable3999@reddit
What is a VCR?
blogito_ergo_sum@reddit
lol
AstrumReincarnated@reddit
Get out.
HTDutchy_NL@reddit
AI is wrong very often and should never be trusted outright. Google adding it to search results has been a very dangerous move especially combined with how crap their search has become the last couple years.
The OpenAI/ChatGPT models with reasoning are a bit better at researching but still need the occasional nudge or even force feeding of information.
Theotherjon@reddit
Actually the AI (which I find dumb) is correct. The causeway bridge over lake P has a big rise way out in the middle you can sail under (I cannot remember the height) but it is not a drawbridge, not does it move or open in any way. However there is a drawbridge (Maestri) east of there that connects New Orleans East and Slidell just before the I-10 overpass (also not a drawbridge) but I remember it being in the open position for several years before I moved away a few years back. Then there are two other bridges, one at the beginning of the Rigolets and another at the end right before the Mississippi Sound. But they’re both train bridges if I remember correctly and so they rotate.
5043090@reddit (OP)
There is indeed a drawbridge. It has been opened for my boat in the past and I've requested to have it opened on Saturday. So I talked on the VHF with the operator, yada, yada, and they opened it. Yes, there is a rise, but that contains a drawbridge. https://thecauseway.us/regulations/ Scroll down and click on "Bascule". That's the type of drawbridge it is.
mean--machine@reddit
Old men yelling at clouds in here
J4pes@reddit
This isn’t a church
woodworkingguy1@reddit
I drove over it a couple years with a friend on a southern guys trip with a stop in New Orleans and he was freaked out being this far away from land...as I pointed out at 3 miles if in the ocean we could gamble now, at 12 miles I could park a Russian sub.