Total American victory
Posted by Dmitruly@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 305 comments
https://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/936232739
Posted by Dmitruly@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 305 comments
https://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/936232739
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Is there something horrendously wrong with the guy other than being Muslim? Not an American.
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Buncha pie-in-the-sky leftie bullshit about how he's gonna give everybody a raise and make public transportation free and subsidize all of the housing and do all of this without raising taxes
ezz_9@reddit
He did say he would raise taxes on the Ultra wealthy.
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Yeah, and they'll totally pay those taxes. Ultrawealthy people always pay 100% of their taxes; they totally won't find loopholes or move outside of city limits or just not fucking pay
jarisius@reddit
if you tax the rich too much and if they are forced to pay, wont they just take their business to somewhere else
ezz_9@reddit
Yes tax heavens exist but you don't see many European companies leaving their country and moving to Switzerland, that's because they don't (not all of them at least) tax your business directly they tax your property which can't really be moved unless you move completely out of the damn country. European countries generally have way fewer usable spaces compared to the US but didn't really suffer from this issue up until 2008.
_witness_me@reddit
That's because they just headquarter in Ireland instead and enjoy its incredibly low corporate tax rate by charging offices in other countries for "services".
AudeDeficere@reddit
That loophole will be closed eventually. Everyone knows about it. Nobody common is happy with it. And we still live in democracies. The idea of wealth detaching itself from civilization must be stopped before it leads to grave suffering.
_witness_me@reddit
One day sure, but it is a very real thing and has been going on for decades with no end in sight. This is despite RoI being part of the EU which absolutely could force changes if it actually wanted to.
?? No one in RoI is going to vote to change this because those businesses will just move. Despite low corporate taxes, some money is better than none.
What in God's name are you on about.
AudeDeficere@reddit
To cut a long story short - I am saying that we are inching towards civil war because fundamentals aren’t working right. Stagnation works out well enough until the pressure starts to mount. Right now I can often enough count the parties who like and consequently want to preserve the status quo in single digits. That’s the thing with decades where nothing changes - it’s like the Arab spring. Or 1848/1849. It always seems very stable until it doesn’t because nothing has happened for far too long. I am not talking about votes. I am talking about the way people see their place. What they expect. And what they have been taught about their own ability to shape the world. I am not saying that all this will happen - just that it’s getting more plausible since, as you said yourself, nothing is changing. Look at young men. One of the most volatile groups of society. ,any of them are already angry. Sooner or later, some may get the idea that they no longer want to see nothing happen.
_witness_me@reddit
Skipping over most of that which isn't relevant to anything...
Boards of companies have to approve pay deals. These are agreed in advance & have conditions that are related to company performance. Not one single thing is stopping anyone leaving a company if they don't like how much the CEO is paid. There's no link between this statement and any part of the rest of your article.
??? politicians not interfering with private sector pay deals is right and proper.
It's literally nothing like it in the slightest.
Same again.
Sounds like you need to get off the internet and spend some time outside.
AudeDeficere@reddit
Skipping over most you don’t deem relevant... That’s why you think the way you do. Of course people can just going to quit and manage to compete with multi billion dollar companies that can bribe the entire governments to rule in their favour. Theoretically everything is possible. In real life? Not so much. No link between a board approving 165 million to a single man and social inequality rising causing tensions that have directly caused an entire party to run on the idea of making the USA great again?
Politicians should not interfere with private pay deals? That’s how we got communism and the entire rat tail of consequences that single instance provided. Because business was just allowed to run however it pleased. Little kids in dangerous factory positions. Workers crammed together in tiny flats like cattle. The good old days before the pesky days of interfering.
Oh? Are we not living in an era where the elite is occupying almost all avenues that can generate a living? Where all over the west the idea that growth for them is the same as growth for us is being perpetuated while critics of the status quo grow stronger in almost every single election cycle? In France, the UK, Italy, Poland, Germany, the USA? Where the modern patricians have isolated themselves from any consequences, waging wars their children don’t participate, paying themselves obscene amounts of money and trying to justify their greed with outdated believes?
Perhaps you ought to study the fall of the republic when populists fought with the patricians. It’s quite insightful. Of course, it’s not the exact same thing today. But I can detect a similar rhyme without trouble.
Really? Trump starting trade wars left and right that stand to benefit the established US-elite but not the people because they maintain their status quo but don’t help the common people - that’s not a French king waging war to improve his power while his people suffer and he has to raise the taxes to finance his decisions? Perhaps you really don’t see it but go ahead, look into the 7 years war yourself, see how it all played out, hear the arguments, see who was speaking and who was dying. The writing is on the wall.
Go ahead, see if you can’t find the irony between a man who promises to bring home the manufacturing jobs while his own peers have paid themselves hundreds of millions and see nothing wrong with it.
Just becsuse something is legal, it’s not good or right. The king of France was chosen "by god". When they dragged him to the guillotine as he had conspired with enemies of his own people one too many times to regain power, do you think he wondered about god not being strong enough to sustain the legal system that had supposedly enshrined him and his children on the throne of France for eternity?
Do you see what I am saying? I am not just arguing legality, I am arguing about justice, not the kind that only affects a tiny amount of minorities but the one that’s essential to keep society functional. I am opposed to the kind of excessive greed that has created systems like my own where loans have effectively not risen since 2016 while our beloved chancellor deems it necessary for us to work harder so we may help him and his friends to make a few more millions we will not ever see, where the old get everything while the young fight for scraps, where wealth is more often than not inherited and not earned.
_witness_me@reddit
>Skipping over most you don’t deem relevant... That’s why you think the way you do
You're right, I'm not a fan of pointless ranting with no relevance to what's being discussed.
>Politicians should not interfere with private pay deals? That’s how we got communism
You've got that completely the wrong way round.
>Oh? Are we not living in an era where the elite is occupying almost all avenues that can generate a living?
Not in the slightest. "The elite" are of course employed across *all* industries, but they don't monopolise them.
>waging wars their children don’t participate, paying themselves obscene amounts of money
This has happened since the invention of city states. Name a single private sector billionaire who's ever started a war.
>Of course, it’s not the exact same thing today
It's not the same at all.
>Trump starting trade wars left and right
There was one salvo of tariffs, not a war. Trump got most of what he wanted & everything has died down since. More hysteria.
>The writing is on the wall
Randomly posting things like this doesn't strengthen your argument; it does the opposite. You can't actually draw a single real parallel so you make silly claims throughout and hope something sticks.
>while his own peers have paid themselves hundreds of millions
Why should a wildly succesful private business owner not be reimbursed according to free market principles? Pure politics of envy.
>Just becsuse something is legal, it’s not good or right. The king of France was chosen "by god"
Fine, but we're talking about well established market principles, not birthright divinity. The two are wildly different.
>Do you see what I am saying?
Yes, you're 12 years old and have just discovered that the world isn't fair. It never will be. You need to learn to accept this and make something of yourself instead of crying about it.
Grouchy_Vehicle_2912@reddit
If they have their wealth tied up in NYC real estate, how are they just going to "take their business elsewhere"?
And even if they don't, why would they ignore one of the country's biggest markets wirh over 8 million people, just because of slightly higher taxes?
This is just neoliberal propaganda. It doesn't work like that in real life. Many of the richest US states also have the highest corporate tax rates.
JustCallMeChristo@reddit
You can move your company headquarters and receive tax breaks.
Thus why Foot Locker moved its HQ from NYC to Florida.
AudeDeficere@reddit
That’s why you need national and eventually globally enforced policies. It’s a sin against the ancient duty we all bear from the day of our birth to try and weasel one’s way out of contributing to the common good offered by civilization. Good kings don’t solely rule to fill their pockets. Only tyrants do. And let’s not kid ourselves. When the elites are so wealthy while both sides campaign on making the USA great again, this is an issue of spoils that are only possible in unison not being shared as well as they should.
JustCallMeChristo@reddit
I think most of this can be solved with a restructuring of how taxes are distributed to the government.
I’ve long held that it would be better for everyone if the money stayed locally 70%+ of the time. Meaning, when you’re taxed the money doesn’t go to some obscure thing like Social Security or Medicaid that a random person across the nation will use. It should instead go to the roads, traffic lights, nature preserves, local markets, and more that are LOCAL. The money spent should also come with receipts, so you know exactly where your money is going. This way, every person can directly see and benefit from the contributions they made to the government through taxes.
This would also incentivize cities to be more competitive, because people of all income brackets will move into the cities who know how to spend their taxes well — and it would create a positive feedback loop where the good cities would balloon in size and keep growing the amount of money they have to spend, which then increases the amount of people that want to move to the city. Eventually, the city will become prohibitively expensive to live in due to supply/demand.
The converse will also be true, if you have a city that doesn’t know how to spend money wisely then the people will leave — because they’re not seeing the benefit of their money taken.
I believe a lot of the problems of ultra-wealthy people not paying their fair share could be resolved by having them share in the benefit, meaning the government should keep the taxed money as local as possible. This would make the taxes feel less like theft, and it would also help bolster the ‘capitalist’ foundation of our society because the poorer locals would likely have a much more positive view of the ultra-wealthy due to their contributions to the town. People would literally be able to walk around and see roads, sidewalks, court houses, jails, parks, and art that were paid for by the taxes that the ultra-wealthy contributed. If everyone had receipts for their taxes, it would also be public knowledge how much everyone contributed to different things in the town.
I honestly feel like that is much closer to the America that the founding fathers intended.
AudeDeficere@reddit
Certainly an interesting pov. Thanks for the ideas :)
That_Guy381@reddit
“neoliberal”
sir, these are reactionary racist right wingers. Neoliberal doesn’t mean “things I don’t like”.
Grouchy_Vehicle_2912@reddit
The argument that we need to lower taxes because otherwise businesses will leave is very much a neoliberal argument. Do you know what neoliberalism is?
And I don't see what racism even has to do with this topic. "Racist" also doesn't just mean "things I don't like".
Krunkbuster@reddit
The moment it makes sense economically to up and move, they will. At least corporations will, because they have a responsibility to maximize shareholder value. Unless they can’t move for some artificial reason like an authoritarian government or successful boycotts (this is living in fantasy land but could conceivably happen)
Grouchy_Vehicle_2912@reddit
Okay, but my entire argument is that it doesn't make sense economically to move over a slight tax increase.
Good luck building your next corporate HQ in Bumfuck Alabama where you have zero reliable infrastructure, only get poorly educated unhealthy workers and are 1000 miles removed from the national and international center of capitalism.
McBlah_@reddit
Lots of corps left California to go to Texas. It does happen and has impacts.
That and Alabama is literally home to rocket scientists and high tech rocket factories so your middle of nowhere argument seems short sighted.
bigGoatCoin@reddit
That exists due to government welfare and handouts. If we had an equalized state transfer system many red states would be quite screwed.
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jarisius@reddit
are we sure about the "slightly" part. thats the whole thing in your paragraph
oby100@reddit
Why bother commenting if you don’t know what you’re talking about? He has promised a 2% tax hike for the ultra wealthy.
Truly terrifying stuff. I’m sure Trump himself can’t wait to move his hotels elsewhere
Nathan_hale53@reddit
Its because regards like that dont actually look into policy lol
syncdiedfornothing@reddit
I'd say we're sure because we have the numbers. Maybe you aren't sure because you're talking out your ass with no knowledge.
TheDanLopez@reddit
It's 2% on income over $1 million for people and a raise of corporate tax to match New Jersey's 11% for corporations. It really isn't that much.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
That's what a lot of New Yorkers and Californians have been doing for years now. Especially during covid lockdowns.
jarisius@reddit
yeah i suppose so, "tax the rich!!!" is not a good policy at all. might as well be go all communist and nationalize everything
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Then they leave the country. So you put up an Iron Curtain forcing them to stay. And then they don't bother making any money, because what's the point? And so you end up pretending to pay people for pretending to work.
Cobalt81@reddit
Because this totally actually happens in real life
_witness_me@reddit
It's happening en masse in the UK right now.
Cobalt81@reddit
TIL.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Yes.
Cobalt81@reddit
In some places, sure, but in the US we once had a 94% tax on the wealthy, which was lowered to 70% in 1965. The wealthy back then were not leaving the country, they were just fine. So while it has and can happen, it is definitely not a given.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
That was to help finance WWII. Everyone had to chip in. People were collecting scrap metal for the war effort. No one was fine. People put up with it temporarily in order to win the war. You make it permanent, you're going to have a lot of problems.
Cobalt81@reddit
It wasn't lowered for 40 years in the 80s. They were just fine. The notion that the wealthy will "stop working" because they can't make anymore money is laughably naive. Idk why you're so beholden to them. If they want to leave, let them. Someone else will take their place.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
It wasn't at 94% either.
Cobalt81@reddit
It was.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
You were talking about the 1980's just now, so no. That's a lie. The tax rate was only at 94% from 1944 to 1944, only for the exceptionally wealthy, and only because of WWII.
Cobalt81@reddit
I never specified it was only in the 80s you regard. All I said was that the highest ever was 94%.
At least now I've got you to admit you were wrong and I was right. Lmaooooo
Winter_Low4661@reddit
No, you didn't specify at all because you wanted to trick people into thinking it was at 94% until recently. I reminded you it was for only 2 years to finance WWII, invalidating your point. Then you said it didn't go down until the 1980's. This is a lie.
I'm not wrong. Denying individuals the opportunity to make money for themselves destroys their motivation and so they leave the country. Nobody steps in to replace them because they can't. Then the country is broke and the government resorts to coercive measures to stop anyone from leaving. That's what the Iron Curtain was. That's what the Berlin Wall was. They shot us. They sent dogs after us. They falsified maps so we would drown in bogs.
Cobalt81@reddit
Just because you can't read means I lied. You're conflating regular people who can't make money to people with hundreds of millions of dollars. All I've learned from this conversation is that you're a Russian bot.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
You're the Russian bot. You are a liar, you're the one doing the conflating, and you're denying actual history.
"Like that happens ever"
Historical_Listen305@reddit
Would be based.
jarisius@reddit
im sure eastern european people will agree to that one!
Historical_Listen305@reddit
They have only themselves to blame for fucking it up.
PM_Me_Nudes_or_Puns@reddit
And go where? New York is the business capital of the world.
jarisius@reddit
if they get taxed into oblivion and find better options for investment what else is there to do
Gassenger@reddit
You're so fucking stupid and falling prey to neolib propaganda.
Take a propaganda at deez nuts and shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about
AzKondor@reddit
what if they got taxed 15% on the way to the oblivion
11freebird@reddit
That’s what they want you to believe
Starbonius@reddit
That's a fairytale based off a single country in nordic Europe.
Mr_Canard@reddit
Are they going to move Wall Street to Texas? 🤣
throwawayeastbay@reddit
I have to keep letting my wife's boyfriend bang her or she'll leave me for someone else!!
rkiive@reddit
“Hmm do I want to sell my product to a market of 9 million people in arguably the wealthiest city in the country for slightly less of a profit than I was originally making or should I just close up shop and move away entirely and make zero dollars”
Animalmode19@reddit
No. It costs WAY more to completely move their business than it does to just pay a little more tax. Plus, it would be a ton of work for them, that they would t really be able to delegate.
Atlas-and-Pbody@reddit
Yes, what a shame, if they mpve put of NY. Don't you give them any ideas!
XxxAresIXxxX@reddit
They sure threaten to but things aren't working out with them doing it this way for all this time. It's time to call their bluff.
tradermcduck@reddit
If the whole world coordinated a bit for the good of the rest of us, they wouldn't be able to do this shit.
justis_league_@reddit
you speak so confidently on something you don’t really understand
BagOfShenanigans@reddit
They can move wherever they want. The assets are in the city.
11711510111411009710@reddit
I mean, if the taxes are raised, even if they use the same loopholes as before, they'd still be paying some taxes, which should work out to more than before.
ezz_9@reddit
From what I saw of him, he wants to increase takes mainly on the property of the ultrawealthy and not their business. They can move their businesses as much as they want as long as they have a property in NYC, it will get taxed and damn near all the wealthy mfs have something in NYC.
Tf do you want then? What's your solution to make NYC not a shit hole?
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Ban Narcan
Theghostbuddy@reddit
This may just be one of the most unfathomably based and objectively correct takes of all time.
ezz_9@reddit
Fair
GodlessPerson@reddit
Might as well not have any taxes on anything and the government will just print money to pay for stuff.
hobbinater2@reddit
Hey we are halfway there!
dickdicksonesq@reddit
Yeah but the ultra-wealthy don't have billions of dollars just sitting in their checking account. Net worth consists of far more than just liquid capital. They also have some of the best tax accountants and attorneys that money can buy at their disposal to help them maximize losses and deductions.
snrup1@reddit
A lot of billionaires even have a family fund that is professionally managed.
ezz_9@reddit
While you are not wrong I think you underestimate how much they can actually spend from the amount of money they have accumulated, they can and they do spend fuck ton of money.
Yes, and taxes are not based on that and the property tax isn't based on that either, also from what I saw from him he is planning on a 2% tax increase. I think they can afford that from their liquid capital.
I agree with that, which is why in my opinion increasing taxes on a state level isn't a real long-term solution and the federal government needs to have a look into the laws and how to plug the loopholes those ultrawealthy use.
minimize*
woman_tickler049@reddit
He would be flipping burgers if that were his actual intentions
ezz_9@reddit
I don't really get what you mean. As far as I know, he is an outsider even for Democrats, And this mf talks a lot. So his intentions either are well-hidden or for better or for worse his intentions are just what he is saying.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
He wants city run grocery stores. Literally Soviet era bullshit.
bigGoatCoin@reddit
looks at new Hampshire and other states with their state ran liquor stores
looks at the trump admin with their 'golden share' of US steel
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Arrival_Joker@reddit
eh. We have those in my country. They're usually for the really poor though. We call them "ration shops".
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Well, we already have like food pantries for the poor, plus things like food stamps, so I imagine he means like literal grocery stores.
TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit
It's not even remotely the same but you believe what you want to believe.
He's not trying to make every grocery store in the city a city run one. It just wants to open City run grocery stores. I failed to see why this is in any way a problem
JACOB_WOLFRAM@reddit
Red Scare mind fucked your average American for decades to come
This is what happens when you convince your citizens that the people that live in another continent are the problem for literally everything, instead of the oligarchs and the people who they pay to make the decisions in the first place.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
By that logic Trump is a leftie for promising to bring egg prices down. Sounds like an average politician. The seething must be because he's Muslim then.
syotokal@reddit
Only if Trump said he was going to put price controls on eggs. Which If he did would be leftie but no where near the same extent.
HillaryApologist@reddit
Well he did already try to put price controls on drugs so I guess it's just a matter of time.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
I don't agree with rental controls past a point, but still, not enough to justify the outrage around him tbh.
TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit
Rent should be strongly tied to property tax and operation(If it's an apartment) costs.
For example, if I rent a house that the landlord has a 30-year mortgage on for $1,500, rent can be adjusted within a percentage variance of that where you can only charge a certain percentage above the mortgage payment. And unless that mortgage payment changes, the rent remains the same.
For apartments it would be something closer to rent being calculated based off of the property tax, maintenance costs, average water, average electrical, and front office worker wage of the previous year of operation. The full cost breakdown for the owners of the complex should also be made publicly available
Arrival_Joker@reddit
I love hearing about countries with proper rental laws. Mine has nothing. Most landlords just kick you out when they feel like it and fleece people because there's always a sucker willing to take it.
TypicalMootis@reddit
This seetheing is because he refused to answer questions on his views of Israel and kept doubling down that he wanted to represent his constituents in NYC and the Isreal question was irrelevant. Not joking, there's a vid
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Oh. He's based then.
TypicalMootis@reddit
Not sure if that makes him based, but he's at least not Towing the side curl line
No_Emotion4451@reddit
lol. You got a response with several reasons the right is going crazy.
And you respond with “but Trump is the real socialist!!”
thatcatguy123@reddit
Wow I havent been on 4chan in years, you guys really just drinking your own drool huh? This level of insight comes only once every 21st chromosome. I cant believe I thought at some point 4chan was funny, its just special ed without the wrangler to keep you from bumping your head for too long
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
okay
thatcatguy123@reddit
Do humanity a favor and chug down some led
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
thatcatguy123@reddit
Im sorry, I do not mean to put you in negative light. You are a human too and humans fail, and they fall, and the ly do the wromg things. But I dont think anyone is truly a bad person, we all have great capacity for evil, but in that same person is the same capacity for absolute good. So do something good, redeem yourself, we all fail but because of that we have a chance at redemption, there is no good without a fall from grace. Have a good day, and do something good in the world.
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
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thatcatguy123@reddit
I see brain size is reducing rapidly, in this case in real time. As the patient has given up language and resorted to simple images thinking it will convey a point. Further observation is needed before a proper prognosis but this one seems to be dying of idiocy.
thatcatguy123@reddit
Oh man, now I know your terminally stupid. Do you think because I read psychoanalysis im a dimb witted medicator. I know big words are hard sometimes but did they teach you nothing in paper airplane folding class?
ultimatedelman@reddit
Pie-in-the-sky stuff that every developed nation in the world except us is doing
NightOwl1702@reddit
Thanks for the summary Elenwen.
seldomtimely@reddit
Capitalism is going to fail if these types of measures are not taken. The system is not working. The country needs a new-deal type legislation and the longer the ruling class drag it along (e.g.thwarting Bernie's nomination), the more cataclysmic the class ruptute will be when it comes.
TNTyoshi@reddit
So he wants good things that some European countries like Luxembourg already have…
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Trying to compare Luxembourg to fucking anything is disingenuous and you know it. Might as well use the Cayman Islands as your example.
Space-Safari@reddit
Hey he just said intifadas were cool
mayasux@reddit
Americans founding their country off of intifada and then clutching pearls over the word will never cease to be funny
Space-Safari@reddit
wtf are you on about
Mr_Canard@reddit
Intifada means revolution / popular revolt
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Very based.
Sleep-more-dude@reddit
He is a socialist, so center left by EU standards lol.
NeonsShadow@reddit
He is anti-American. All good Americans pledge allegiance to the Israeli flag and kiss the wall
xpacean@reddit
He doesn’t think the money is more important than you are.
el_chapotle@reddit
no lol, and you’ve gotta understand that most 4channers are teenagers in basements from either rural Iowa or some shithole village in Albania; they are inherently terrified of American cities despite having never visited one, and they have no idea how they work
Ilikemobkeys52@reddit
Saar there's nothing bad with wanting to defend the police and make NYC a sanctuary for illegals
daemon1targ@reddit
Well, he's an Indian Muslim.
Ilikemobkeys52@reddit
Do not redeem saar
XxxAresIXxxX@reddit
Yeah he's burning up all the credits that democrats got from trump and co being insane by being a different brand of insane with a leftist spin. Him doing all this and drawing so much attention may win him the race (or just as likely lose it for him and give NY to a maga puppet) but it's making democrats look stupid to what's left of the rational public. This and whatever else comes will translate into losing/failing to gain Congressional seats in the midterms and further hamstring the ability of the sane members of Congress to rein in trumps worse ideas and lead to further turmoil both domestically and abroad.
Literally all they had to do was not posture on social media and be the voice of reason. Now he and others are trading the public's good will for photo ops and TikTok sound bites. They're worse than influencers at this point.
Krunkbuster@reddit
My main concern is that he says he is running on defunding the police on twitter, then turns around and says he won’t when he’s on TV. Also, nobody knew who he was a year ago. But then again I don’t live in New York so I kinda want him to win to see how well he does and if New York voters are retarded or not.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Standard politician behaviour I'm only ever surprised if they're actually consistent atp.
ThirstyOutward@reddit
The democrat establishment hates him because he doesn't suck off Israel
fangpi2023@reddit
The video of all the other candidates going on about how they want to visit Israel and criticising him for saying he'd stay in New York is absolutely wild.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Oh that was him? I remember thinking why the fuck are people asking mayoral candidates this. Why are they replying Israel. You don't need to glaze them like that lol
woman_tickler049@reddit
being a muslim and having some sort of power is enough for the place to get fucked.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Well if that's the case the people get what they voted for.
woman_tickler049@reddit
they always get what they vote for
Jack-of-Hearts-7@reddit
No.
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
he's a commie for real. taxes in new york are about to skyrocket and people are cheering for it b/c they're restarted
havoc1428@reddit
Why should anyone outside of NYC give a shit about the mayor of NYC?
AnotherScoutMain@reddit
Every mainstream media news network is based in New York if you want the actual answer.
25inbone@reddit
Represents a shift in the Democratic Party more broadly
Imagine having this mentality “if it doesn’t affect me directly why should I care”
Braindead take
Deluxe_24_@reddit
That is how the majority of Americans think. "If it isn't happening to me, then who cares?"
25inbone@reddit
Individualism is what’s killing this country and the world more broadly
ElementOfWater1@reddit
For real I couldn't care less about NYC and I see shit about him on every website and news source.
Ilikemobkeys52@reddit
Cause I'm in PA and the dumb shit these idiots vote for eventually teeters down onto me when the same trash that voted come here
Shitebart@reddit
Sports-mentality tribal politics. People choose their team and view everything as a W or L even if it has zero effect on them whatsoever
Red_Blast@reddit
"Omg hes trying to help us kill him"
ThirdHoleHank92@reddit
There are plenty of policies made with good intention that end up to being economic disasters and make everything worse.
Red_Blast@reddit
If u gonna gamble on politics then might as well gamble on good intentions
ThirdHoleHank92@reddit
That's idiotic. You gamble on good ideas not good intentions.
Communism had good intentions and it was directly responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people.
Red_Blast@reddit
The only idiot here is you, isn't good ideas and good intentions the same thing? If i said good ideas u wouldve still disagreed and said gamble on good intentions not good ideas, i keep telling my self not to argue with idiots on reddit but i do it anyway tell me whats so bad about his ideas? Or u just looking to disagree with anything?
ThirdHoleHank92@reddit
Good ideas and good intentions are not synonymous. That's why the saying goes "the path to hell is paved with good intentions."
TypicalMootis@reddit
Whatever NYC gets, it's what NYC desreves
plokimjunhybg@reddit
NYC 2020 Ethnic composition: 31% White 28% Latino 20% Black 16% Asian
NYC Metro 2024 Religious composition: 32% Catholic 29% Protestant 26% unaffiliated 8% YEHODIM 4% Muslim 2% Hindu 1% Buddhist
RandomWorthlessDude@reddit
What is YEHODIM? Is that some new religion like Scientology?
DarkStar0129@reddit
It's the Hebrew word for Jew
RandomWorthlessDude@reddit
Thank you, didn’t know that.
ParticularConcept548@reddit
Yeah they created new words every year we just need to catch up
plokimjunhybg@reddit
I see where you're coming from but tEcHnIcAlLy there's nothing new about the name YEHODIM,
it's an endonym, in Hebrew, it's definitely older than the English word JEW, as a matter of fact, it's older than the English language
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Yeah, that's how democracy works.
Cygs@reddit
"Every man has exactly the government he deserves"
FuckinFlowerFrenzy@reddit
Bull shit. I didn't vote for the orange twat, and I sure as hell don't deserve him!!
back_reggin@reddit
Democracy means not always getting your way. A lot of people these days seems to want a dictatorship, just their dictator rather than the other guy.
FuckinFlowerFrenzy@reddit
I'm aware of that. He won the election fair and square. I don't contest that at all. I'm saying I don't deserve the dumbass government America elected.
_witness_me@reddit
You think you deserve an even worse one headed by Kamala?
junkstabber@reddit
Kamala wasn't bad and she wouldn't have built a govt out of Fox news hosts and reality tv stars...
_witness_me@reddit
😂
junkstabber@reddit
Why was Kamala so bad? None of the "she slept her way to the top I hate woman" bullshit. Why was she so bad?
_witness_me@reddit
Barely being able to string a coherent sentence together, for a start, perhaps most exemplified when she tried talking to children about space.
A hypocrisy that puts Trump to shame (hard on crime by being incredibly soft on crime); claiming that Biden was sound of mind despite absolutely knowing he wasn't. In charge of the border but never even visited it once.
No real achievements of any kind whatsoever. She held some offices in which she appeared to have no visible impact, just taking up space until she was promoted for no reason whatsoever. Biden is on record explicitly choosing her due to immutable characteristics, nothing to do with competence.
She's an empty shell of a person without any conviction other than railing against her political opponents. A terrible option for leader of the free world.
Papa-pumpking@reddit
Trump is more of a dova than Kamala ever did.She out woman a woman.
_witness_me@reddit
.......what?
Papa-pumpking@reddit
Guy loves attention more like than a Queen Bee in Hichschool.He got the US army to sing one of thebsaddest HappynBirthday ive ever seen. XD
FuckinFlowerFrenzy@reddit
No, reasonable Americans deserve a good government. Neither candidate offered that.
TheBoromancer@reddit
Neither candidate ever offer a “good government.”
Drops mic
rkiive@reddit
💀 how brainrotted are you that you genuinely believe that.
What are they feeding you Americans
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Yeah, but most people did, and so we are all condemned to have him.
Shalashaska87B@reddit
You sir are technically correct!
Contact_Antitype@reddit
The best kind of correct!!
beefsquints@reddit
Like being one of the most desirable and expensive cities on the planet?
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Anyone who says they've met someone happy to live in NYC is a liar
afishinthewell@reddit
You "people" are so soft.
Cygs@reddit
Hard times make hard men
Hard men make good times
Good times make soft men
Soft men wrestling a 2 foot sewer rat for their Jimmy Johns sandwich makes hard men
klonkish@reddit
why are you talking about "hard" "men"
lurker_archon@reddit
Because this is going to lead to Ram Ranch, keep up buddy
alitayy@reddit
No way you believe this
xpacean@reddit
I live in Brooklyn and it’s fucking awesome. The reason you cite the 1% (which I’m not even close to) is because prices wouldn’t be so high if it weren’t so desirable.
adamsworstnightmare@reddit
I just laugh when conservatives shit talk high COL areas like New York or California. People don't pay those prices because they like wasting money, it's because they'd rather pay the premium to not live in rural Ohio.
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McWeaksauce91@reddit
It’s literally the 1% who live lavish socialite lives that love New York. Anyone just hooking, jabbing, and surviving hates it
beefsquints@reddit
Did fox news tell you that?
McWeaksauce91@reddit
Nope, my family who lives in New York tells me.
beefsquints@reddit
Oh, they don't want you to visit. Makes sense.
McWeaksauce91@reddit
lol, sick burn!!
beefsquints@reddit
Yeah, you're making my point. The most desirable places are inhabited by the ultra wealthy. Rural areas are cheap because they suck and no one wants to live there. Are you just so filled up with conservative talking points that you forgot about supply and demand?
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Because NYC is totally 8 million ultra wealthy people ok. And there's nothing cheap about NYC at all
beefsquints@reddit
The poorest person in NYC has to make enough to live there, which means they make more than the average person in a red state. Sorry reality is so hard for y'all.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Homeless no longer considered people?🤔 based?
beefsquints@reddit
They don't really factor into the cost of living and are not counted in any financial statistics. Red cities are also full of homeless people at very similar rates.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Bro has red cities rent free in his hes lol who even mentioned those places?
"NYC is a shithole"
"Erm we make slightly more money than those right wingers though!"
Like ok? Not that this really matters but even if they make more money(assuming billionaires arent counted since they inflated average wage a lot if included) they also have to spend a lot more of their money at the same time on everything cause they live there. Balances out.
beefsquints@reddit
You completely missed the point. NYC is expensive because people want to live there. Red states are not because people do not want to live there.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
This isn't an argument at all. If youre gonna claim that then give a connection. When people say they wanna live in some shithole like that or LA its cause its already considered a "high class" high level of living place. Not to turn it into that.
beefsquints@reddit
What? Give an example of what you're talking about?
Maxbonzoo@reddit
No.
beefsquints@reddit
Makes sense considering it was nonsensical drivel.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
camelyoga@reddit
red states have higher rates of poverty 🤣
beefsquints@reddit
That you? Trying to pretend poor ass red states are desirable places to live?
TypicalMootis@reddit
I personally cannot possibly fathom paying a million dollars for a penthouse and then going to the ground floor to see a bum shitting on the doorstep
schmitzel88@reddit
$1m ain't getting you a penthouse, maybe a modest 2br at best. Also you still have to take the subway everywhere and might not even have in-unit laundry.
The_Schan@reddit
You have the wrong mindset, with a million dollar penthouse you WANT to see the bum shitting on the doorstep because every time you walk by you can tell yourself how much better and successful you are than them. Maybe spit on them occasionally, idk. Anything to feel superior.
beefsquints@reddit
Then you can't fathom living in a city. I can't fathom living in a rural or suburban hell where I have to drive thirty minutes to eat at a fucking chilis. Cities are not a good place for internet loser shut ins but they're awesome for people with actual hobbies and interests.
thisguy883@reddit
even if they are 1%, they still hate the place.
Historical_Listen305@reddit
And they all live there because they couldn't be some random office droid or waste collector anywhere else?
mookyvon@reddit
Yes love paying $5,000 a month to live in a shoebox surrounded by garbage, homeless, roaches, and rats. Very desirable!
beefsquints@reddit
The fact that it would cost $5,000 a month to live like that in New York is proof of how desirable it is.
JDLRosa223@reddit
It’s proof of overpopulation and lack of supply. If you have a job in NYC, and it’s a 2 hour one way commute from somewhere nice or a 10 minute walk from a shithole, believe it or not most people will take the shithole
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beefsquints@reddit
Why don't they just go somewhere else if it's so shitty? If you can be employed in a competitive market like NYC realistically you can be employed anywhere in the US.
JDLRosa223@reddit
While true for some professions, others are essentially locked to major metropolitan areas. My issue is more with cities as a whole and not new York specifically.
They all share outrageous prices due to location and proximity above all other merits, which I think is a bit silly. Cities definitely have their high points, but living 30 mins away gives you 90% of the benefits while missing 90% of the issues
beefsquints@reddit
I don't think there are a lot of finance bros itching to leave the city.
JDLRosa223@reddit
As if I would ever respect the opinion of a finance bro…
beefsquints@reddit
Why, you're all maga bros.
Searril@reddit
Watching your butthurt over learning that the majority of people have zero desire to live in New York City is absolutely hilarious.
Thanks for the morning guffaws.
mookyvon@reddit
Not really. It just shows where the money/jobs are concentrated. NYC is the “#1 city” aka least shitty city in America. Would I live anywhere else in America? Fuck no, they’re even worse than NY is.
cpcpcp45@reddit
being able to get a job somewhere does factor into desirability, yes
mookyvon@reddit
You got a point there wagie. Only thing keeping me here is my high paying job. Doesn’t change the fact that NYC is a shithole that peaked in the 1990s.
MJisaFraud@reddit
Still better than any and all red state cities.
beefsquints@reddit
Without question.
beefsquints@reddit
There are only a few cities globally that are better. Sorry you have to hate good things to justify your shitty life.
MrAbomidable@reddit
Maybe move to Queens instead of Manhattan. Oughta solve that issue.
TypicalMootis@reddit
I'm not going to argue against your statement. But I'm going to say that I personally think big city livers are suffering from some fucked up form of Stockholm Syndrome. I live in Cali, and the people that live in the greater LA area and the Bay Area are out of their fucking minds, and seem completely oblivious to how disgusting their environment is. Last time I was in San Francisco I could not get over the fact that the air itself smelled like shit, but no one on the job site knew what I was talking about because they were all locals
beefsquints@reddit
I think that about small town and suburban life. Oh cool, miles of desolate bullshit only connected by highways. When you get to somewhere it's the same five stores copy and pasted into a shitty strip mall. To live somewhere with cool nature is also stupid expensive.
TypicalMootis@reddit
I'm not trying to advocate for Rural living either. But cities with a population of less than 200k are infinitely better than major cities were humans are stacked on top of each other like crabs in a trap
beefsquints@reddit
It really depends on their public transportation situation. I love in Asheville, NC which is exactly what you're talking about but if it wasn't beautiful beyond all reason here, the city itself has very few actual city benefits. Terrible public transport, the city is dead after 10:00pm, still a ton of homeless etc.
TypicalMootis@reddit
Isn't the National Guard still guarding the New York subway? I'm not opposed to streamlined public transport, but what's the point in having easy access to the tube if you have to worry about getting mugged every morning? At least in my car I have a mobile shield and I can carry
beefsquints@reddit
I assume they are but it is also true that NYC is seeing a large reduction in crime rates.
Searril@reddit
"Large reduction in crime rates" he says, while violent crime is roughly 20% higher than it was just a short 3 years ago, which itself was still higher than it was during the last half of the 2010s:
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/historical-crime-data/seven-major-felony-offenses-2000-2024.pdf
beefsquints@reddit
Another incel that doesn't understand population growth and per capital statistics. If only y'all knew how dumb you really were.
23rdEye@reddit
I moved from AVL to Balsam to Sylva. Next, I'll be moving into a cave and living on soy tendies and rain water.
beefsquints@reddit
I feel that. This is not an area to be financially insecure in. Move quick though because those caves won't be cheap for long.
Jimbenas@reddit
That’s sort of the beauty of it. You get left alone. You don’t have to wade through tons of traffic (or homeless if you walk). If you need anything big, there’s usually a city an hour away or you can just order it in. Unless you’re shit at planning or love going to overpriced restaurants and bars, it’s a lot better life. Not everybody needs 60 gorillion stores to consoom from.
beefsquints@reddit
You don't get left alone unless you completely isolate. No one even knows who you are in a city, it is actual anonymity. It's not about shitty stores or uninspired restaurants, that's what exists in rural and small cities. New York has actually amazing culture, iconic places, and top notch everything. I get different people want different things but your whole image of NYC is something you made up. Where is the closest Michelin star restaurant to you? What about a world class art museum? If you wanted to see a Broadway play, how would you? How many cool independent stores are in a rural shithole? Have fun with dollar general and subway.
Jimbenas@reddit
I’ve been to New York and it’s just the same shit but people pretend it’s fancier. I don’t give a single shit about a play or Michelin diner. Couldn’t give a fuck about looking at art. Oh wow, a painting, crazy. I’ve seen a million of them. I don’t need independent stores to buy bullshit trinkets either. If I want that I can just go visit a nearby city.
Can you go ride ATV trails in your backyard? Can you take a small boat out with a couple buddies and fish on the river without being around a million other people? Can you do a burnout in the middle of your road? Can you shoot empty beer cans in your backyard? You also don’t have to share walls and can have a nice amount of property to dick around on.
beefsquints@reddit
Rednecks do love redneck things. Thankfully it's all basic shit so you don't have to pay for any of it. I grew up in the mountains of Colorado so I get what you're saying but that shit all got so boring after a few years, I'm glad you're happy with the simple shit but we can't all be basic bitches.
Jimbenas@reddit
I guess so. I spend most of my life working, taking care of bullshit, or bullshitting around with friends. When I want to be cultured I can go drive to a city, but generally I like my space. I’m glad the city exists so I can go visit and I’m sure for city dwellers it’s vice versa. My only issue is with people trying to make the countryside like the city.
beefsquints@reddit
Who is trying to do that? Also, if they succeed sell your house for a huge profit and move to a still a cheap rural area.
Capital_Drummer8397@reddit
You may very well be the most Reddited person I've seen in a while
beefsquints@reddit
And you're some weird, fat maga racist. Who cares what you fat losers think? Don't you have a daddy to suck off somewhere?
Capital_Drummer8397@reddit
They found our 4chan colony boys pack your bags the partys over
beefsquints@reddit
Peak cringe from a dude making fun of reddit. 4chan really is just for fucking weak minded incel cucks these days.
solarscopez@reddit
The solution is to not live in the actual city and in a suburb that's about 40 mins to an hour away.
People voluntarily living in big cities are just asking to get stabbed/robbed by inner-city diversity.
vicefox@reddit
Ford to the City: Drop Dead
ChandlerZOprich@reddit
What Americans got in 2024, it was what Americans deserved
PapierStuka@reddit
"Invoking the Holocaust doesn't seem to have the same impact it once did"
THAT. I'm German, I've been called a Nazi my whole life based simply on that - be it as a tasteless joke during school trips to other European countries, in person by leftists or online by deranged seppos (from both sides)
I couldn't give less of a fuck about that term now, I'm completely desensitized to it. So are a lot others I know. Calling everything fascist and everyone a literal Nazi for not agreeing with them has that effect. I tried to explain that to our own leftists, which I once was part of, nets me downvotes to burry my comment and insults. And they still fucking wonder why the far right is rising in popularity..
Elani77@reddit
making it illegal to question how certain events happened will certainly make people believe they happened!
PapierStuka@reddit
That has nothing to do with what I said.
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
get ur brown shirt ready 💪💪💪💪
rstrstrs@reddit
The tale concerns a shepherd boy who repeatedly fools villagers into thinking a wolf is attacking his town's flock. When an actual wolf appears and the boy calls for help, the villagers believe that it is another false alarm, and the sheep are eaten by the wolf.
Flying_Saucer_Attack@reddit
He's not an antisemite, he's just anti zionism...
cysapien@reddit
I would not be surprised if "they" are planning a big false flag event, and need muslim Mamdani in place as the scapegoat.
OpinionatedTree@reddit
Honest question, when you question if certain people control the world, the past, the present and the future, do you stop to consider: 1) that they may have a God given power. 2) that they are somehow superior because, come on, they control everything, or 3) you might be a little delusional?
I cannot see a way beyond those 3 awnsers so I'm asking honestly but in a cheeky way.
cysapien@reddit
None of the above. More grounded, and evidenced empirically. In brief, generational wealth (power), indoctrinatation and nepotism.
Overcoming confirmation bias and lack of self awareness are the primary obstacles to a better world view.
“The impediment to action advances action, what stands in the way becomes the way.” - Marcus Aurelius
Zealousideal_Home785@reddit
He’s not a Muslim at most just cultural "Muslim"
basilisk_boi2@reddit
So he’s takfir or whatever they call it? Pretty sure Any self respecting muslam has to neutralize him on sight now
AmrLou@reddit
You mean Kafir. And yeah, casual practicing Muslims would think of him as an heretic with his pro LGBTQ stance, and not minding the right of Israel existence. But not all of them anyway, since Takfir (calling others Kafir) is a pretty big thing in Islam that you cannot yourself be considered Kafir if you just call people Kafir without a very through thought process.
Aaarya@reddit
Good plan, the Holocaust museum should use it.
ReincarnatedAyotolla@reddit
Almost as if western zoomers raised on 2 decades of jewish goyslop news media have absolutely no idea how Muslims behave.
Also, why are you circumcised?
Sir_Jacques_Strappe@reddit
So was Sadiq Khan before he got elected, then immediately it became Islamophobia this and Islamophobia that
American_Crusader_15@reddit
Twitter users having a crashout over a muslim mayor in a western country will never not be funny.
noticingmore@reddit
It's not about then being mayor.
It's about them being in Western countries at all.
bigGoatCoin@reddit
there have been muslims in the American continents since the 16th century. Then like 10-30% of the slaves where muslim. Then there was Ottoman Muslims/north african who migrated here in the 17th. Balkan muslims, Levantine muslims came over in the late 19th century a lot of them ended up working at Ford.
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MCLongNuts@reddit
And they will keep breeding our white women. We lost and there's nothing we can do. The white race is finished.
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Yeah, but atheist commies will do that too. It's just using one part of the population to fuck over other parts for equity or some shit.
outblues@reddit
I'm sure raising dramatically raising taxes on moderate to high income earners and landlords will have zero effect on rent prices and cost of living & goods
MrInterpreted@reddit
Surely we should give more tax breaks to the rich
outblues@reddit
Never said rich should get tax cuts, but aside from increasing taxes on capital gains when selling stock or individual income tax, any other tax you put on a business/landlord is gonna directly result in increased costs for the customer/tenant
25inbone@reddit
So you agree rent control would curtail this fuckery? Can’t throw costs to tenants in that case, but oh no rich pricks have to bring in less money? The horror
outblues@reddit
Introducing rent control works well for the first generation of tenants, but later generations will face rent costs way higher than what they should be due to LL trying to recoup profit loss from that first generation.
Overall I'm down with it because it benefits long term renters who pay into the system and helps prevent predatory LL practices on existing tenants
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Jimbenas@reddit
It’s okay, there’s going to be state ran grocery stores. I’m personally excited to be the person in charge of hanging pride flags and keeping them up to date with the new revisions. This should help keep prices low comrade.
lachiefkeef@reddit
Since when did museums condemn people
oby100@reddit
Holocaust museums are active on social media.
It sounds funny, but people that donate to them aren’t simply hoping for a building people can choose to go to and feel sad. The primary purpose is to spread awareness and ideally reduce anti semitism and other organized prejudice
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
did u mean cover up ethnic cleansing lol
Leprecon@reddit
I looked it up and he said he supports a pro Palestine slogan and then the museum put out a statement saying that politicians should be careful about what slogans they support. They didn’t name him but they obviously meant him. So it was pretty mild in my opinion. If they really condemned him you would think they would actually say so.
Ozymandias_1303@reddit
I was condemned by a museum once. It wasn't my fault though. If they didn't want me to jerk off, they shouldn't have had those naked pictures!
NachoNutritious@reddit
If the mummy in the exhibit didn't want it then why was it making that face at me
Shalashaska87B@reddit
That's a sort of institution which retains the right to ban people from accessing it.
matootski@reddit
Mr Prezidento please stop, everyone's sick of winning
alexdapineapple@reddit
NYC has more Jews than Tel Aviv. Zohran Mamdani probably won 30-40% of the Jewish vote, that's pretty much the only mathematically possible way he could've won by as much as he did. That scares the Israel dickriders a lot.
Naiveee@reddit
Anti Israel W in my book.
sword-lord@reddit
free ourselves from our chains
dickdicksonesq@reddit
Imagine what would happen if he tears it down and builds a Mosque. BBC and demoralization threads would be no more.
gamamoder@reddit
idc abt new york i just want zions out the dem party
OG55OC@reddit
It’s almost like Jews don’t run the world, and aren’t to blame for everything?
dickdicksonesq@reddit
Pouring one out for my sweatsuit wearing Italian American bros
Jew-York@reddit
Muh Holocaust Museum. Who gives a fuck? Those charlatan outfits are purpose-built to cry wolf every time a candidate has positions that doesn’t privilege the alien Jewish minority.
Sharky-Li@reddit
I wonder which state the mass exodus will turn purple this time. You'd think they'd learn.
jizzleaker@reddit
Wow, hard to believe any of you idiotic homos gives a shit about nyc politics. Its almost as if you only care about what social media talks about because your all fucking stupid as fuck.
You should all consider suicide.
jpedditor@reddit
"Condemned by the Holocaust Museum"
Secularist republicans got their own fucking Vatican now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
RoguRawsauce@reddit
thought you were quoting Warhammer for a moment there
hoteppeter@reddit
The FREAKING HOLOCAUST MUSEUM
XanII@reddit
I cant wait for the material. Think about it: public sector grocer. First issue: dealing with security. Inventory. Stealing that gets political instantly. and running stores is no easy thing so budget shortfalls and money going missing will be epic.
WachanIII@reddit
His first priority as NYC mayor should be to visit Izreal and fuck on film so there is some leverage on him.
Shut yo bixch asses up.
young-steve@reddit
He's gonna do a great job
Lifeisahighway13@reddit
sometimes reddit makes me lose hope, then I see 4chan posts and it gets even worse
untakenu@reddit
Why are Americans so obsessed with jews?
shitposterkatakuri@reddit
Yeah the Muslim who’s fixated on feminism and trans rights. Sounds like a Muslim to me. Also idk what communism like in China and the USSR has to do with a red lib but I’m glad that self identifications are all it takes to fool people. Are /pol posters genuinely brain damaged?