How do you guys deal with stuck parts on old cars?
Posted by Front_Ad_9728@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 109 comments
Bought an older car not too long ago, and I’m wondering how the rest of you manage to deal with all the parts that just won’t budge.
I’m trying to replace the rocker cover gasket, but the two breather hoses are absolutely stuck. They won’t twist, won’t pull, and even after soaking in wd40, no luck. I’m also afraid to pull too hard in case I break the old hoses.
Last time I replaced the high mount brake light, I spent more than two hours on a single screw because someone had previously stripped it.
Any tips, tools, or tricks you’ve learned from dealing with stubborn parts like this? Appreciate any advice!
solenyaPDX@reddit
Break the old hoses. They're just hoses.
Biff2019@reddit
Penetrating oil. 6 point sockets. 1/2", and sometimes 3/4" drive sockets. Hacksaws. Propane torch. Acetylene torch. Arc welder. Cold chisels. Sledge hammers. Long handled breaker bars. Longer "cheater" pipes. EZ-outs. Tap and die sets. Helicoils sets. Patience. Skinned knuckles. Curse words. Beer.
For a stuck hose, cut it off. But (obviously) plan on a new one.
Gubbtratt1@reddit
In Swedish there's the three V's: Våld, Värme och WD40. Translates to Heat, Violence and WD40.
ConstantMango672@reddit
Wd40 isn't a lubricant though... it displaces water, won't do shit for stuck bolts
nerobro@reddit
it's a light oil, with a low vapor pressure. This makes it creep into things. It DOES work as a lubricant, but it's not better than specialist penetrating lubes.
Dangerous_Echidna229@reddit
I don’t understand the fascination with WD-40. There are much better products out there.
zorander6@reddit
Merchandising... where the real money from the movie is made.
They have spent decades of merchandising and their grandparents were using it while their fathers were getting yelled at for pointing the flashlight wrong.
Gubbtratt1@reddit
When getting stuck bolts out you don't really need a lubricant though, you just need something that can penetrate and break up the rust. If I could get water, glue or grinding paste in the threads that would work just as well.
EngineLathe12@reddit
You guys got PB Bl’aster in Sweden?
Gubbtratt1@reddit
I haven't checked. That doesn't start with V (or W) though.
EngineLathe12@reddit
Gonna call it Vl'aster from now on. Stuff smells like mothballs soaked in gasoline!
Remarkable_Ad5011@reddit
Great… now everyone knows how to make their own… way to go. 🤪😂
nerobro@reddit
Air hammer. Air hammers are magic for old and rusty cars. Air hammers will make EVERYTHING move. As soon as it moves, it can take lubrication. Lubrication gets a part off.
Also 50/50 ATF and Acetone.
Fragluton@reddit
I find swearing and skinning your knuckles is great for morale.
gearhead5015@reddit
Then PB Blaster mixed with some blood until it's rounded off, a bunch more swearing and beer, then a cutting tool of some kind.
Or a properly applied torch before any of that... And some beer
No_Character_5315@reddit
Get your kid to help you then blame them for snapping the bolt life lesson sucks to be low man on the totem pole work hard so you're not at the bottom lol
Responsible-Sign2779@reddit
PB Blaster is fantastic stuff. It makes WD-40 look like water.
Different_Split_9982@reddit
The torch you forget the torch and some more knuckle blood.
gearhead5015@reddit
Reread my comment. Torch was mentioned at the end lol
Different_Split_9982@reddit
Yea but you mentioned it as heat not as turning it to liquid. ;).
gearhead5015@reddit
Lol, fair enough
SpanishFlamingoPie@reddit
Then staring at it with your hands on your hips.
T00luser@reddit
good tip.
What works for me is being as old and brittle as the vehicles i work on.
Fragluton@reddit
I need a lie down after moving my 40kg+ jack under the car. Then I tend to forget what I was going to do and start something else instead.
Emotional_Star_7502@reddit
Wd40 isn’t the best. I’d recommend PB blaster, or mixing your own with acetone and transmission fluid. When possible, start applying days before working on it. Breaker bars-have a variety and use the biggest you can fit. Ideally, they shouldn’t flex. Use heat. Throw away 12 point sockets, use 6 point only. Get a good set of drill bits and drilling oil.
Responsible-Sign2779@reddit
I'm convinced 12 point sockets were designed by Satan himself.
NinjaBilly55@reddit
If I know it's gotta come off I'll hit it with Kroil or PB, Toss in a few hammer taps and let it sit as long as possible then blast it with heat.. The crayon thing works extremely well but I never seem to have a crayon when I need one..
Hersbird@reddit
I just ordered some Kroil for work, I'm hoping it performs better than wd40
Responsible-Sign2779@reddit
PB Blaster is the real shit.
danny_ish@reddit
Wd40 is an okay lubricant and oil, but is not designed as a penetrating oil. Kroil is.
Wd-40 is a swiss army knife. To me, it is for wiping down tools after a job, imo. Or re-coating raw work surfaces, like the drill press table. Otherwise it’s almost never the best option for the job.
bauertastic@reddit
PB Blaster
Remarkable_Ad5011@reddit
50/50 mix of ATF and acetone.
Responsible-Sign2779@reddit
Equal mix of ATF, Diesel, Marvel Mystery Oil and acetone. 100% guaranteed to unstick any engine that is siezed from sitting too long.
Zealousideal_Put_501@reddit
Cut the hoses off and replace them. When they are rock hard, they are bound to leak anyway. nuts and bolts, HEAT. Oxy acetylene works best, occasionally I’ve had luck with butane/propane torches. Check your local classifieds for used setups, or harbor freight I think sells a mini portable setup. Quality screw drivers can really make a difference on stuck screws. Don’t use power tools here.
trap_money_danny@reddit
50/50 ATF Acetone and if that doesn't work — cant be stuck if its liquid.
icabear3@reddit
The Negotiator. 20, 45, and 50lb sledge. Rubber coated for your protection.
bernardfarquart@reddit
I have an entire drawer in my standing tool cabinet that is just for thread repair stuff
Noone_cares-@reddit
They can’t be stuck if they are liquid
Dorsai56@reddit
Soak stuff in penetrating oil for a couple of days in advance. When you first try to move a nut or screw, don't hit it too hard. Try a steady pull to loosen, then tighten a bit, repeat. You're trying to get the fastener to rock back and forth and get more oil in there.
Shidulon@reddit
Heat
375InStroke@reddit
Sometimes, shit has to be destroyed and replaced. A hose may be one of those items. Try to get something shoved between the hose and what it connects to in order to unstick it. One often has to get creative.
ChemistAdventurous84@reddit
I have often used a pair of pliers to rotate the hose on the fitting. Once it has been broken free of the fitting you can try to pull it off. It should likely be replaced anyway so just cut the hose then slit it to get it off the fitting.
There are extractor bits/sockets for stripped fasteners. Sometimes drilling them out is necessary.
danny_ish@reddit
I own hose pliers, they are really helpful.
HalfBlindKing@reddit
A mechanic’s pick is a good thing to try and get in there. But one thing we know in rust country is that to replace one thing, sometimes you destroy two or three more things up the chain before something will come apart.
danny_ish@reddit
Rule of thumb- if you are touching something that is not solid metal, plan to replace it while doing the actual job at hand. Every hose, every thin plastic part (i just broke one tonight on my 2016 mustang’s shifter, ducking silly), every small screw. Order them all, replace what you need as you go along, return what you dont use or save it for next tine
GundamArashi@reddit
Can’t be right if it’s liquid 🤷♂️
TehSvenn@reddit
Honestly, it's just pure experience at this point. 16 years as a tech before I retired and just just end up with a huge aresenal of possible fixes and weird tools for stuck components, or just creative ways to use tools to get stuff unstuck. For example running a small pick around the circumference of that breather hose before trying to pull on it in your case.
You develop a feeling for how much a part will give before it breaks, but that comes with time. Even then, sometimes you just accept that it's gonna break and you're gonna have to replace it.
99svtbolt@reddit
Heat and then a crayon
jimb21@reddit
Heat or cold
NutshellOfChaos@reddit
You should watch Bruce in Aus on the youtubes. That guy has the patience of Job.
Crewstage8387@reddit
Kroil is great for rusted or corroded part s
Equana@reddit
A hair dryer or heat gun will help get hoses off. Sometimes slipping a rounded probe under the hose will break it loose.
I own impact drivers, impact wrenches, a cutting disk and an acetylene torch.
I wrench, it beat it, cut it or melt it... that fuckers coming off one way or another!
SkylineFTW97@reddit
With more penetrant, heat (mapp torches work pretty well for relatively cheap), and brute force (breaker bars, impact drivers)
Concrete_Grapes@reddit
Hoses? Cut and replace. If they're so brittle they won't move, break them, get a pick tool, shatter it all off and remove it. Buy replacement hose, or make one. Cheap, not worth saving, just move it along.
The taillight thing, Dremel. I would Dremel the head off with a cutter wheel (likely trying to cut a flat groove in it first, using a larger flat screwdriver first. Does it 95 times out of 100).
Learning your solvents. Sometimes vinegar is needed. Sometimes mineral spirits. Sometimes just wd40, sometimes you have to get really mean and use something so strong, you wonder if you have enough PPE. When you start to look for the nail polish remover, its probably getting serious.
Lots of things respond to heat. Heat it up, it comes out. There are cheap induction heaters for the head sof bolts on Amazon. That, or a torch. Just a bottle torch works--propane bottle top ones are fine.
Buy yourself some impact drivers. The ones you hit with a hammer, to get screws and bolts out. These things are often a LOT safer than using an air driven impact gun, because the slam DOWN with the hammer will jar threads and corrosion better than the 100 percent pure twist action in air impacts.
A cheap tap and die set. The harbor freight one for plastic and aluminum works ok, but, not for anything steel. Often, it's JUST to chase threads, so that your new or old hardware can go in and out like new again. Can pre-chase rust off some of the longer studs so they don't bind half way removed and make you want to yeet the car into the river.I use that fairly often. I'm also fine, with non critical parts, letting bolts soak in light weight motor oils, and cleaning with a show towel, but no solvents, before putting them in. They won't work out, but they also have some corrosion resistance I'm ended in them now, pretty much forever.
FitnessLover1998@reddit
Acetylene torch. Works all the time.
TNShadetree@reddit
Can't be stuck if it's liquid.
trophycloset33@reddit
Tell that to the water that got stuck in my pipes last winter
ImNotAWhaleBiologist@reddit
Was it liquid when it was stuck?
WWGHIAFTC@reddit
For rubber hoses, use an angled pick to get in there and loosen them, or try gentle turning with channel locks, Sometimes the squeezing and turning loosens them. But don't grip hard enough to tear the rubber.
If the hoses are hard a a rock, break them off and replace them, and any others like them.
trophycloset33@reddit
Why is it stuck?
WD40, liquid wrench, penetrant, a blow torch, an oven, a really long persuader bar (also works on pesky salesmen), and cursing all seem to work.
trophycloset33@reddit
Since it’s rubber hoses just cut them off
wigwearer@reddit
Take your time curse bleed curse some more get mad throw tools then hit it with purse. THEN WALK AWAY come back tomorrow start again
Stonkasaurus1@reddit
For screws, I usually shock them before trying to remove. Was told at a wrecker to put in the screw driver, give it a good shot or two with a hammer and remove. Works most of the time. Had some success with nuts doing that too.
Centrist808@reddit
First I spray lubricant and let sit for hours. Then I get out my breaker bar and a 10' steel pipe( I have varying sizes) and pull or push until the mf gets loose.
Bright_Crazy1015@reddit
Violence. Working on vehicles is the outlet for many of us. Pliers, a pick, or brute force are often the answer for a stuck hose. If it breaks it breaks, just be sure you're not missing something like a clamp or clip somewhere.
jckipps@reddit
The most important thing is knowing how that item is put together inside. That helps me know whether to use heat, a drill, a grinder, an impact, or a blowtorch.
The second thing is knowing what tools and skills I have for repairing damage. For example, I'll be a lot quicker to just knock the bolt out of there with a blowtorch if I know I have the skills to weld up that spot, drill it, and tap new threads.
Aggravating-Shark-69@reddit
I generally throw something across the shop yell a cuss word, then go to the bar and deal with it later
N1njaF1sh@reddit
PB Blaster Heat Hammer Swearing just prior to getting the cutting wheel out.
Heywhogivesafuck@reddit
Magic and cat drool....after I've tried everything else.
Badenguy@reddit
PB Blaster is good but there is one called Kano Kroil, it’s the beast and worth what it costs, a can goes a long way, if you get aerosol, hardly shake it, it will foam up and won’t come out anymore. If it’s not some rare hose, just slice it lengthwise wise and pry off
revocer@reddit
Ugh. I have never figured this out. Sh*t happens. And just when you think you are careful enough it happens. Or just when you think you have every trick in the book, it happens. It seems like every single DIY job I have stripped something, a bolt snapped, something is hard to loosen. I am no means a mechanic. Or a hardcore wrenches. But I am also not a total idiot. But it still happens.
Worth_Reply_6002@reddit
ever seen those heaters that you can put on the stuck hardware and warm them up? Heat usually helps but I find on older vehicle the cut off wheel (If I can get it on there) and a good drill with metal bit is sometimes the only tried and true method.
Hersbird@reddit
I just did wheel bearings on a 20 year old Saturn AWD and holy balls it sucked. 10 pound sledge on rear brake drums free and to get the old front bearings out. A puller on the axle nut did push out the end of the CV joint so that went smooth. I guess I kind of forgot what seems like a fairly modern good running, vehicle is actually 20 years old now. Like working on a 1965 in 1985 when I first started working on cars.
worstatit@reddit
Curse. Break part. Go to store and obtain wrong part. Call junkyards looking for right part. Use part from corner bucket in garage. Break another part installing garage part. Curse.
tall_cappucino1@reddit
Use violence
Break part
Order new part at great cost from eBay
Question life choices
Front_Ad_9728@reddit (OP)
I was trying to do these myself to save money, now both my purse and feelings are hurt.
aarraahhaarr@reddit
*3. Order new part at great cost from eBay
*4. Receive new broken part from eBay
*5. Question life choices
*6 Repeat steps 3-5
*7 profit??
Affectionate-Box2768@reddit
This is my solution!
Josey_whalez@reddit
Last time I had that happen I was replaced the rear air shocks on my wife’s armada. I broke my ratchet, borrowed a longer socket wrench (shouldn’t have even tried the ratchet, that was dumb) from my neighbor. Soaked the bolts in penetrating oil. Broke his. Went to Lowe’s and bought a longer one made by craftsman, broke it. Went and exchanged it and gave him his new and better tool. Gave up and paid someone to do it. Took it to my regular shop, told them what happened. When he called me to pick the car up, he told me he couldn’t move it either and had to cut it out so I didn’t feel too bad.
Front_Ad_9728@reddit (OP)
After some failed attempts, now I’ve learned to only do these things in a car park right in front of a Supercheap, near a repair, and walking distance from Bunnings, since I don't have a second car to run around.
bendystrawboy@reddit
a dremel to cut through parts.
also i don't buy cars that were driven above virginia here in the u.s.
never buy a used car from pa, nightmare.
dremel, heat, and by dremel the thin wheels are good for making a new slot for a screw driver, or cutting a ridge on the side of a bolt to put a flat head screwdriver so you can bang/spin it.
antidavid@reddit
For hoses grab a pair of pliers and gently twist the hose around the barb. It’ll usually pop loose and you can wiggle it free.
Chainsawsas70@reddit
If it's a rubber hose... Cut it off and replace it.. Your Time savings are worth MORE than the part. Nuts and Bolts penetration oil first and then heat if needed.
Affectionate-Box2768@reddit
If they do not twist I try some heat and more twisting. If that does not work I cut them and put on new hose.
SignificantTransient@reddit
First I try my mechanics hammer, then my machinists hammer, then my actual hammer, then my lumberjack hammer.
MEINSHNAKE@reddit
Heat-oil, try again, heat-oil, try again, heat- oil, try again… usually at this point it’s a bigger hammer or I’m cutting it off.
Theguyoutthere@reddit
Just replace the hoses while you’re there
Adorable_Status_2189@reddit
Utility knife, cut a slit down the hose and peal it off the metal fitting.
jasonfromearth1981@reddit
FIRE!!!
DefendTheStar88x@reddit
1st step, PB Blaster and breaker bar. If that's not enough heat and breaker bar. Still not enough? Have to cut it off.
Gunk_Olgidar@reddit
Won't be stuck if it's liquid.
beaushaw@reddit
WD40 is not the right thing to get stuck bolts out.
Sometimes violence and a torch is the answer. A bolt can't be stuck if it is a liquid.
My_cat_is_a_creep@reddit
For stripped screws that are exposed, use a grinder to cut a groove in the top and then use a flat screwdriver to remove. If it is recessed, a quality screw/bolt extraction kit works well. I know it's expensive but the extraction kit from Snap On is amazing if you run into this problem often. Use a dedicated penetrating fluid instead of WD 40 on bolts and spray for a couple days in advance of disassembly.
captain_sta11@reddit
Hit it with my purse.
“My purse” is what I call the big rubber mallet I keep in my garage.
Sweaty_Promotion_972@reddit
Rubber parts? Boil the jug, tip it on grab with pliers and give it a twist.
grouchy_ham@reddit
Honestly, it’s a matter of experience. Is old codgers that have been working on old stuff all of our lives learn a thousand different tricks along the way and build skills required for some of the more delicate ones.
Having more tools than a few wrenches and screwdrivers is another big factor. Drills and appropriate drill bits, Oxy-acetylene torch, welder, inductive heaters, die grinders, the list goes on…
I have been a repair machinist for the past 20 years and grew up on a ranch where you pretty much fix everything and very often, not in a garage, but rather out in a field in the middle of nowhere. Over the years I have built and equipped a shop that rivals most small business machine shops.
Stuck screws? Drill the head off, remove the part and then deal with the screw.
Stuck hose? Cut it along the length over the hose barb and just replace it.
Stuck bolt? Blue wrench (torch). Heat will usually free them up. Worst case, cut it off or pierce the bolt all the way thru and drive it out.
Basically, experience… and tools. Lots of tools and lots of experience.
Mojicana@reddit
Wurth Rost-Off, WD-40 isn't made to loosen stuck hardware. Impact, not torque. Torque twists bolt heads off. Heat. Heat expands metal.
Get a Map gas torch and a hand impact driver and some Rost-Off or PB Blaster. Save the WD-40 for wet electrical connections and your house's door hinges.
funkthew0rld@reddit
Those hoses probably should feel like rubber, not plastic, and they absolutely need to be replaced.
thetoastler@reddit
Last time I replaced my valve cover gaskets I ended up replacing the valve covers. Shit, I once spent 8 hours removing two stuck bumper bolts before realizing that A) the bumper was bent far enough that the grille guard I bought wouldn't fit (which I had assumed would be the case) and B) those two bolts were in no way necessary to remove the bumper so I could replace it.
SameWeight868@reddit
Heat, heat, heat
FeastingOnFelines@reddit
Hoses- cut them off. Don’t even attempt to reuse. Everything else- soak in penetrant and heat. Then cut them off… 😂
Rdmtbiker@reddit
The force. Mostly the dark side.
Any-Piccolo-1753@reddit
Hit it with your purse
Blankok93@reddit
Get an impact screwdriver, it will make your life sooooo much easier. Other than that, heat, force, WD-40, a good extractor kit, or weld something to it. And good breaker bars
Illustrious_Entry413@reddit
Oil, heat, force. Repeat
Maleficent_Sun_3075@reddit
Lots of penetrant, starting a day or two before removal. Then heat of necessary.
TaylorSwiftScatPorn@reddit
Tiger piss & the flame wrench for the old-fashioned approach. More modern techniques involve freezing or electric induction.
HonestlyEphEw@reddit
Penetrating oil, blow torch, cutting torch
NoStandard7259@reddit
Heat or cutting. Get new bolts if you have to