the thing that gets me is how random their targets are, you'll stumble upon a 400k member snark page with massive activity dedicated to waging total jihad against some random female instagram model whose worst crime is posing to make her butt look bigger in pictures
Yeah that women despise each other is a common misconception. They do, but only after their primary target, men.
There were studies done applying electrodes to the head and measuring the activation of the empathy areas of the brain when the subject was exposed to videos of male or female subjects suffering injuries, body damage etc.
Surprise surprise, males showed more empathy for females than for males, but still activation for both.
The "empathic gender" instead showed almost no activation watching men suffer. That applied to males of any age. Any. Age.
They basically don't even recognize us as members of the same species basically, we're like animals to them. It's why horse girls are so common, for a woman every man is basically a horse. Some are exciting stallions, others are old worn down donkeys. Still, just a tool to make work for you, to give you stuff, to give you unpredictable emotions.
If you think about it and apply it to your real life experiences, it makes perfect sense. Women try to fake empathy toward males because that's the socially acceptable thing to do, but it's an entirely performative act, it never comes natural.
It's why every woman, even the apparently sweetest one, will immediately lose any attraction to you the instant she'll see you crying, no matter the reason. Even in the most cucked subreddits you'll see reports of that, men that have been scolded and then left for.... crying because their mother just died.
It's insane, but its harsh biology and it doesn't even stops with their own male childs.
Think about it, what happened every single time you or one of your little friends had something or someone smaking the balls? The first reaction of the women bystanders, mom, teachers, grandmas, everyone will burst laughing. Always.
That's literally their children and grandchildren, their supposed genetical future getting threatened.
Doesn't matter, it's hylarious at least for the first seconds until their biological drive to act nice kicks in and they start faking feeling sorry and worried. But the first seconds are always of laughter.
This reads like it was posted by a literal, anthropomorphised and fully sentient fedora that was on a quest to become a real boy after it got lost on the way to r9k.
This gonna be the foreword to your active shooter manifesto?
preach. I don't have a great memory, but I distinctly remember as a kid never feeling like the women above us looked at little boys with sincere care. From mothers and aunts to teachers and aides, older women were heartless to little boys 99% of the time. I was left at my school a couple of times when my parents were a minute late to pick me up, you think the women ever left the girls alone outside a locked school?
The worst part is the fake ass morality that they practice “oh we’re going after her bc she used photoshop and created unrealistic standards for other young girls” so they act like they’re morally right. At least the male driven witch hunts tend to be more blatant about just despising the other person for no good reason rather than hiding behind a shield of righteousness.
That's because the demiurge forces them to be something that they don't want to be and their material body does not understand how or why their soul gets bent out of shape. However, on a subconscious level they know something is wrong with them, but they can't formulate it, they must endure the lie or their tongue has been ripped out and replaced.
When you see these "art exhibitions" of women screaming and pointing at their vaginas in the forest or wherever then they are screaming that their children are being taken away and that they are powerless to do something about it and they want to say "bring it back, please please bring it back".
There are multiple types of rage rituals that women do. When I saw them smashing sticks they reminded me of how I did the same thing when I was a kid and why I did it, so I didn't immediately dismiss it as them going bonkers for no reason.
Just because you/we don't understand something at first glance, it doesn't mean there's no rhyme or reason to it.
A woman is an element of chaos and to be the ideal partner for a woman means to master and order the chaos raging inside her but not by being forceful but through proper guidance. To master chaos you need to understand it and chaos isn't when a woman talks. Talking is an orderly act, it's not their element. Chaos shows itself in rage and irrationality and in screaming and kicking and biting or simply "emotions".
So what purpose could there be for a woman to be in a forest, raise her skirt to reveal her privates and scream into the sky alongside several of her contemporaries and why does it resonate with them so much?
I can't reconstruct my entire reasoning anymore but the conclusion I came to was that something had been taken away from them and the frustration of that loss makes them scream.
From there I went on to think about childbirth and how weird it was that one of the first people a newborn interacts with is the doctor, then the mother and then the father and not the parents first or how a Cesarian cut differs from a natural birth and what would it mean for our evolution when we stop shitting out babies and how the emergence into life is not one of struggle but comfort.
After that I decided that my child will receive a water birth. To struggle into life and be gracefully caught by mother nature and into the arms of its father.
That's exactly what it is. She's happy and enjoying her life. Miserable women who are now heading toward middle age like a freight train are spiraling.
Ehhhh I don’t know about far away. Apparently, it had gotten to the point where family, friends and her peers in animal rescue were perpetuating some of the lies and harassment targeting her.
The "Are We Dating the Same Guy" Facebook groups are some of the worst hives of catty gossip and witch hunts on false pretenses.
The internet should have never been made user friendly and easy for normies to use, it should have stayed the realm of hobbyist nerds with the most accessible parts being phpBB-based forums.
I was posted on one by an angry ex, I was innocent, and she tried to spread lies and rumors about me. My current GF (if you can believe it) defended me and got the post taken down
"The internet should have never been made user friendly and easy for normies to use, it should have stayed the realm of hobbyist nerds with the most accessible parts being phpBB-based forums."
lol I literally didn’t do anything. I didn’t put him up on the page I was just told about it.
The man’s a pathological liar who’s tried to sleep with minors, has cheated on every girl he’s ever dated (I was even the one to catch him on one occasion), has knowingly spread STDs, and preempted each of those behaviors with lovebombing. Is that your guy? You don’t think that guy deserves a bad reputation?
I agree there’s an inherent issue in these groups but this is the type of guy that deserves it.
Then call the cops, you bundle of cigarettes. Don’t support a gaggle of rabid roasties trying to get woman-justice (aka nothing even approaching justice).
Some of the last messages were critique her for taking in another animal after taking in a fox missing a leg and not expanding its enclosure? idk petty bullshit. the subreddit is called "save a fox" or soemthing
It really did get worse. in some sub read it here. I found a link that gave me something to Google search that took me to another Reddit post that had a Google Docs link that had a phone dump of text messages that we’re talking about how she’s supposedly stole some pets because the people weren’t taking care of them and some other shady stuff that could’ve just been people between each other because of how it was cropped. I think the worst part of that Google Docs dump was some pictures of her and her friends that look like they were private and all in fun in this person that created this Google Docs dump, included all those pics. Honestly, if it had been me and those pics, I would’ve owned that shit. People do all kinds of shit in private otherwise we wouldn’t have rule 34 or 4chan. The people that dumped that information and made her look bad should pay.
Even worse, what I saw is that it was competitive animal rescue groups who were large contributors to this harassment. It led me into a deep dive of how fucking cruel rescues are to one another.
“No one is allowed to rescue anything, unless it’s me. And I will fucking destroy you, if you do. I will make it my mission in life” - is the common sentiment.
People who are competitive in activities that is supposed to be altruistic are basically narcissists who role play virtuosity for personal image building reasons.
It dawned on me that “progressive” subreddits are absolute hives of the most disgusting and aggressive fantasies and hypotheticals ever. Like they’ll take a blank act by a person they don’t like then spew the most offensive shit possible because “that’s probably what they’re thinking” motherfucker it came from YOUR MIND what the fuck
I lean econ left, socially conservative but liberal (do what you want behind closed doors, as long as you're not endangering anyone, and pay your taxes), but boyyyyy do I prefer hanging out with conservatives more than progressives. Like, obviously crazies on both sides, but the average politically active conservative just seems more... normal? Less inclined to make everything political?
but the average politically active conservative just seems more... normal? Less inclined to make everything political?
Lol. This thread being a perfect example. Nobody was talking left vs right before you guys piped up talking about how lefties always turn things political.
Same exact boat as you. My gripe is that they like touting openness and tolerance but live and try to enforce the most rigid worldviews and lifestyles. Literally the least tolerable to be around.
Gaming circle jerk brigading every stream they could find of people playing Harry Potter and telling them to kill themselves. Really disapproving the trans / mental illness connection hypothesis.
Somebody on Twitter tried comparing using slurs to if they killed the “racist’s” family members. Like how stupid are you to thing a mean word is equal to mass murder lmao
I was unaware of these snark subredditd until I randomly searched doctor mike after getting a video recommended and found doctormikesnark.
I can't tell if it's 20 mentally ill people or just 1 talking to itself but they people need help.
lmao jesus fucking christ, i checked it out of curiosity.
and its just a bunch of women seething, they hate him cause he has a hot GF,
And also apparently the age gap between 35 yo man dating 25 yo woman gave them the ick.
so its just a bunch of expired hags catlady seething at the sight of happy young women.
i guess its true that the biggest women haters are not men, but other women.
kek
NIHS's own statistics show 60+% of them have narcissistic personality disorder, which is a total coincidence by the way and has nothing to do with anything so stop being a hater bro
There is also a potential backup account/alt account where they post about necrophila not being bad, that disabled people shouldn’t be allowed to exist and that defended the bullying page.
If it isn’t the flag person, it still shows you the caliber of people that were using that subreddit
I noticed this back in college. I was a dating a girl who lived in the student housing, which was set up apartment-style with 2-4 girls per apartment. Each year, there was inevitably one of the four girls who was singled out as the outcast and treated like garbage. Barbaric and petty shit, like peeing in her shampoo bottle, turning off the breaker for her room when she was watching a movie with her boyfriend, licking her clean dishes, etc. Her only crime was being the odd one out.
Then another girl upset everyone, so they turned on her. They treated her like shit including hinting to her boyfriend that she was cheating (she wasn't). She ended up moving out mid-year and two of them went back to bullying the first.
Girls in groups will multiply one another's pettiness until they're all extremely vicious.
Same thing happens in the working world too sadly. It's becoming more common in my field with the push for ✨#womenInSTEM✨. The magic number of woman engineers at the same level in a single team is 0,1, or 7+. Anything in that 2-6 range is guaranteed to turn into what you described, with a higher likelihood the closer you are to 2. If they're on separate teams or organization levels, i.e. don't have to work together often, any number is fine.
If you're talking about kiwifarms, that place is disproportionally female too and Josh is weirdly feminist.
I wish we had a board to talk about lolcows tbh. Jannies refuse to give us one but whenever they're asleep and one slips through on a blue board it's really funny.
It’s insane. Everyone once in a while you’ll click on someone’s profile and they have hundreds of posts about some random IG influencer. They’re demented
its like they found a digital way to get with eachother at sewing club and gossip about the local eccentric woman who married a guy 5 years younger than her, complete insanity
I think the worst is that women have a weird way of justifying it as well. Like with every fitness influencer it’s “o it’s ok because they are giving people the wrong idea about what’s a normal body and they’re lying about steroid use” or something.
Most guys at least know when they’re bullying someone they’re being pricks, or there’s a general idea about shame. But these communities run rampant.
Even the “are we dating the same guy” groups are wild. My buddy apparently got posted on 1 when he was a virgin because some girl thought he was leading her on when in reality he’s an awkward dude who was scared of an intimate relationship haha.
That was my least favorite sub since they would post the homeless tiger shit in threads in every other sub. Like yeah, Schaub is a huge fucking loser. But you know who else is? Bobby Lee lol. Bobby is just more self aware and talented but it’s not like he’s some fucking saint
Yeah I really don’t care how much they make fun of him and the other Rogan slurping comedians but the constant obsession with his family is embarrassing. I left a few months ago because I felt like I was only seeing posts about his wife.
Yeah sure, she’s a vapid wannabe Instagram influencer. I don’t fucking care. They genuinely act like catty women over there lmao.
The woman who was the face for the Save A Fox organization (made the videos, spearheading rescue operations, fundraising, etc), was the target of a bullying campaign from, apparently, a loosely organized group of losers.
She killed herself due to being unable to cope. Left behind the organization, the foxes and other animals, a husband, and children.
Some didn't want to get their feelings hurt and started deleting accounts:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250424182656/https://www.reddit.com/user/Pale-Explanation-709/
holy shit, I heard about some chick from fox rescue, but I didn't know it was the fox rescue
hell, I even watched a couple of her videos
what was even the reason for it? surely, they didn't just wake up one day and collectively went: "yeah. Today, I'm going to bully this gal for no apparent reason"
But I can't imagine making a whole-ass mini society focused solely on bullying one person for 0 reason. I prefer to spread the bullying among many people. I'm fair in that regard
jokes aside, that's a whole lot of dedication without an apparent reason, no?
hey without bullies like you people like me couldn't pat themselves on the back for the rest of their life for standing up to you, so thanks for doing your part!
From what I read it was supposedly the rescue being kind of sleezy. As in from an animal welfare point, as well as supposed grifting. Constantly doing fundraising but then her husband is seen driving a 400k car.
No idea how true any of it is, but thats the gossip.
Save a Fox founder, Mikayla Raines, dies by suicide following online harassment from snark subreddits.
One redditor/Tumblr/Furaffinity user (yeah you can guess the type of person ) in particular is doubling down their responsibility as being one of those who harassed her.
responsibility how...."Sorry, we pushed a woman into suicide.. we'll gladly go to prison if it makes us look better,"
At worst, these guys we'll close up shop and wait for another victim...a best delete thier accounts and vanish off the internet...
All we can do now is just mourn and hope it dosen't happen again
I guess they were claiming she was abusing the foxes somehow? Idk. You won't be able to go into the mind of a furry fanartist and understand their reasoning.
Did you see the video where she gave all the foxes eggs. It’s probably the cutest thing I’ve seen in my life. There’s very few people who could inspire so much empathy. She knew all the foxes names and habits.
Second: I'm really struggling to understand how someone could commit suicide when their lives appear to be so fulfilling. Husband, children, a fox saving organization. You get to cuddle foxes all day. popular youtube channel with fans. Like how do bullies online affect your life at that point. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not shitting on Mikayla here. I'm just baffled at how she wasn't able to ignore the bullies.
It’s likely this. You can have everything going for you but if your brain chemicals decide fuck it I’m not happy you can’t control that easily. It’s more likely she suffered from depression than that put her over the edge rather than mean comments.
Yeah.. I’m sure most YTubers with a significant following get shit on by faceless/nameless people online frequently.. the vast majority ignore it and keep doing their thing.
Her husband said she had autism and BPD. So basically no ability to ignore the hate being sent her way by terminally online losers who couldn’t put their money where their mouths were like she did for years.
You can have what people believe to be the perfect life and still be wildly depressed. It can be caused by life circumstances but not always, and it can sometimes be alleviated by changing your life’s circumstances but not always.
The real answer is that she probably was struggling with other things that are none of our business. Like online bullying is bad but unless something really bad gets leaked than it shouldn't cause someone to consider suicide. Most likely the story is a cover as to not bring shame to her or her family.
She was very open about he mental struggles she was facing. Ethan, her husband, talked about it in the video, but on her personal facebook page, she went into a lot of details, it wasn't an sudden thing.
One of their posts came up for me a couple days before it happened. It was talking how they need 90k in donations a month to run the rescue and how they were always struggling with that. Like yes they had all these things but if it’s collapse is on the horizon, and the people who were critiquing you for that sort of thing were right, then imo it’s understandable.
Idk man I had a relatively fulfilling life growing up but my brain was mostly like: "You know what'd be funny? If this fucker felt like shit the whole day everyday for no reason and all. And then would feel guilty about feeling like shit without actual problems in his life when people are having it worse and not complaining as much as him. Haha, that'd be hilarious ngl"
My brain (without meds) just doesn't produce as much dopamine as the next person it seems. It's just that tiny difference that makes me depressed in any scenario even when all pointers say I should feel good about things.
Imagine a little voice in your head telling you that every single problem you stress about could be solved if you didn't exist. It's similar to how you say "just walk away from the computer and ignore the bullies"
But it's an inner dialogue. It's constantly in your head, and when it's quiet you don't notice. But when it's loud, it's loud. It drowns out normal thoughts and solutions. It pushes it's way to the front and yells and SCREAMS at you. At times it's unbearable, hearing it makes you want to listen and obey. Maybe ending it all is the only way to get it to stop. Maybe that little voice starts to sound like the only voice of reason. Maybe it's truly the only right solution.
Without a strong mental conviction (ironic huh) or outside help, you gaslight yourself into a deeper, darker hole. I don't want to use the word depression, because sometimes that fucking voice is not accompanied by normal depressive symptoms.
There's many different forms of "suicidal ideation" and there is in my opinion layers to it. The last layer is dark. Pitch black. A darkness that you can never truly comprehend unless you have stared at it. It's captivating and welcoming. It's assertive and comforting. It's relaxing, like a nightly ritual after a long day. It puts on a mask and pretends to be some form meditation. Indulge and you will feel better. Like the devil offering an apple that will lead you to infinite possibilities. Except the only thing you want is for your stress and worries to disappear.
I genuinely am glad that you DON'T fully empathize with this, because it's a horrible and dark experience that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
But for the people that have been there, it's understandable. And it's sad.
Some people are exceptionally sensitive to bullying and harassment. When such people become internet famous, public figures, or targets of harassment it can result in some crazy shit happening.
i don't know how bad the bullying got, but more often than not these things are a matter of perspective. if the bully manages to hook you it can easily become all you know, it can feel so real and intense, i have been through it myself even though the bullying itself was very insignificant. but to be driven into suicide by it makes it sound like the husband may not have been completely there for her either, still hearing about her fate had to be the saddest news i have heard this year.
You can be in a position where you have everything going for you but the neurochemistry just isn't right and everything makes you miserable regardless.
Some people just get consumer by it and think it's a choice between suffering for 50 more years or pulling the plug now and avoiding all that future pain.
Still, rather selfish decision for a mother and wife to make but people don't do it out of weakness, they do it because they are carrying an unbearable burden without any purpose.
Depression doesnt play nice, and often the better off people are the worse they feel about being depressed.
"But you cant have depression, you have a nice life!" Is exactly what you shouldnt say to a depressed person because it makes them feel worse about themselves. If you arent happy when all your dreams come true, then will anytbing make you happy?
Depression is an illness that requires medical treatment, and those with depressice symptoms should get proffesional help. Your brain is literally not workimg correctly, its not your fault, and you are not a faipure for feeling sad when the world tells you to feel happy.
I'm reminded of 4chan leaving absolutely repulsive comments on the YouTube channel of a young woman doing book reviews. Tampon baby, anyone else remember?
I’m just asking, but was it a trans community that bullied her? No hate, nothing. Just asking a question because that’s what big “news” outlets are saying
It was a prominent furry developer and a bunch of their fans ontop of a wave of TikTok and tumblr minors. The main claims were:
She supports the fur farm industry by buying foxes. Which isn’t true (she did buy out a farm to save 500 foxes but most foxes she saved were injured one’s already set to die)
Used drugs. Which who cares she’s saving animals
Had bad conditions for her foxes. Which is also just not true, her sanctuary was open to the public and people went across the world to see it.
She didn’t pay her staff. (She runs a two man show with volunteers ofc she doesn’t pay volunteers)
The main culprit is KazeoLion. Here’s there now archived post
Fucking reddit, but still how did this happen? I just can't believe someone would do this over some insignificant online haters. There probably was something else that led her to go this path.
because it bled into her real life. and its her job. She lives and keeps these foxes alive through donations and maintaining goodwill. and this harrasment campaign lasted years and was only growing. In the video her husband posted he says it had gotten to a point where close irl friends were turning against her and believing some of the rumors against her.
I retort, most people are stupid and that includes you and me. Meaning, it’s context few ever think about what they’re really doing seriously and honestly for those depressed, which I was chronically depressed for about 12 years you gotta get over it. People are worth thinking about and when they get in your head it’s because you’re deeply uncertain with yourself, but when you understand those emotions in you that feel unheard you should simply think what’s the point in having them if I’m not trying to show people. Give up on your image and craft something you’d be ok living in and that’s not a price tag it’s your own way of life. Just get with it and be others will take note and attempt to adjust and you just enforce the boundaries that you keep so you can love yourself better. Hate how no one ever says this.
I don't know what this is about but as someone who is a huge consumer of animal videos, people in the comments are the most miserable bags of shit on the planet and I'm saying that without an ounce of hyperbole.
I saw one today of a kitten who was dry heaving on its sleeping sibling. It was funny, like "What a goofy little shit going to puke on his sibling, of course he's orange too." What do the comments say? "Put down the camera and help him!" Help him do what you stupid bag of crap? You gonna hold the 4 month old cat's hair back for him? Zero thoughts about it, just immediate blame of and spite towards the uploader.
Why would you bully an animal rescue YouTube channel? Because anyone who sees it and feels any negativity towards it will do everything in their power to force their miasma to spread. Cruella DeVille is real and there's a thousand of her.
Facebook pages are terrible about who just want to hear the sound of their own voice.
I'm in a FB group for my city that's based around helping people find things in the region. Awhile back someone asked "Hey I'm looking for a bottle of Eagle Rare, have y'all seen it in any stores around?" and some braindead girlie replied "I haven't, but my local liquor store looks like it carries bourbon so maybe they have it!"
So you don't know? You don't know if they have Eagle Rare? Why are you posting in bro's thread if you don't fucking know?
My wife's uncle constantly goes on there and posts "Today is a great day". Like who TF cares what you think? Also no, it isnt, because every time I talk to him he is complaining about something. Or people will post "Just had a good dinner at ". Well thanks for letting me know instead of inviting me to join.
I swear like 90% of people on FB can just shut up, nobody cares.
I do, sadly. Because it's still very popular locally and it's the only place where I can ask for or about that stuff. And yes, people are assholes for the most mundane reasons like asking if anyone has a certain part, and a smart ass will comment on it like "just make it yourself bro it's not that hard" and they post a picture of their handyman craftsmanship that they made
To be slightly fair to the person, unless youre into 'rare' bourbon the concept is kinda fucking stupid.
Oh yes, this store orders it and would love to carry it, but theres not enough supply and people hoard it to re-sell. The concept of going to a bunch of stores to try to find it just seems stupid to me, and ive done it.
I think most people would think that if youre having a lot of trouble finding a 40 dollar bottle of booze, maybe just buy a different 40 dollar bottle of booze.
People that know whiskey know theres at least somewhat of a difference, and want to try the different ones and everything...but people that dont know bourbon are going to be kinda clueless on that.
Scarcity is a thing for a lot of products, but man...bourbon takes it to fucking 11.
IT'S NOT EVEN THAT HARD if you know the place and you're there specifically to help (some communities don't enable that and I can respect it) find something, CALL THEM. AND ASK. AND REPORT BACK. Are you obligated to help? No but there's a proper way to do it that will net 100% results and make the world a better place if you choose to expend the 3 minutes' worth of energy.
Got into an argument with some guy saying you shouldnt leave a dog X hours in a crate. Motherfuckers sleep all day and they cant nap in a cage while youre at work? Whats the alternative? Euthanize or a shelter?
Have you ever filmed your dog while you're at work? Sure they nap a lot but they do it in various places, plus they like being able to walk around checking any noise and whatnot.
A literal husky or Samoyed chilling in a snowstorm, something they were genetically bred to ensure - omg you are hurting that flufferpupper paw baby! Let him inside!!!!
People who placate their frustrated parental instinct with dogs (essentially four legged toddlers who are permanently retarded) are some of the most unhinged people. Often mentally ill and bad dog owners to boot.
Anyone who has owned one of these dogs knows that they will cheerfully run outside in the dead of winter to bury themselves in the snow. Some of them will even dig themselves a little hole and sleep in it.
"WHAT ? You're peacefully interacting with a wild animal ????? Don't you know that this is litteraly the WORST thing ever ???? Humans should NEVER interact with nature !!!!!"
I've heard that the field of animal rescue contains a lot of harassment. Now, this is unconfirmed, but it sounds like she received harassment from these other animal rescue groups as well.
How exactly do you let cyberbullying actually affect your life to the point where you have to end it? Like idk I’ve never been cyberbullied but surely you would just like not visit the subs that make fun of you?
Every celebrity/politican/public figure has thousands of people talking shit about them all day every day. If they’re just random internet strangers then surely it’s just background static. How do you let the opinions of people who don’t matter control your life so much?
For one, i’m fairly sure it wasn’t just that subreddit, and also her husband posted a video on the saveafox YT channel where he explains that she was very easily influenced by people online, she had borderline personality disorder and was on the spectrum.
Some people like yourself have an advantage over people like me. Being able to discard the negative opinions of others is a real strength.
For those without that strength, it could be by nature, or it could've been beaten into them.
Have you ever had someone absolutely flip their shit when you've made a minor interaction with them? It wasn't your fault, you were just the straw on the camels back for a bunch of anger/frustration/sadness they had been holding back.
I will say that the thought of some snot nosed 9 year old being the one talking shit on the other end makes it easier for me to brush that sort of nonsense off.
It got to a point where her close friends and relatives were hearing about unfounded rumors of her apperant animal abuse, and apperantly some of those close friends believed it and turned on her. Her being really autistic didn’t help either
Real. Just turn off comments or don't look at them. Or at worst, close your account? Truly mindboggling that killing yourself becomes a more attractive option.
The success of saveafox depends quite a lot on being active and visible on the internet. It's not like they have some billionaire funding them and can just shut off all social media.
If someone said she got bullied for having freckles people would believe that. Some just chooses not to think about anything and just react the way other people would approve.
Redditors hate attractive White women that's why.
Ever noticed how majority or snark subs are about attractive White women?
If they are fat or pavement colored,they get instantly banned.
The main thing I saw people saying when I looked into why she was being criticized was accusations that she was an animal hoarder and that she took in wild foxes even if they weren’t injured. I have no idea how true that is, and it doesn’t justify a targeted harassment campaign even if it is true.
It's a crying shame. That video where the fox stole her phone and running away while making those super villain like maniacal laughing noises always brightened my day when I'd run across it. The world is a lesser place with her passing.
A lot of it stems from a ‘volunteer’ that claimed a bunch of drama like being paid in cat food or how the foxes were in poor conditions. But the post screamed someone who had no idea how these sanctuaries run or understood they were a volunteer not an employee.
A lot spread from that. The idea that she was a glorified pet owner was a big one. She rained 80k to buy a fur farm out and save 500 foxes. Lots of them considered this fueling the industry that abused foxes, missing the point that she shut the factory down the moment she bought it.
Then other random attacks on her character. Drugs was a really big one. Her using volunteer money for drugs etc which all had no proof
TLDR a bunch of furries and TikTok kids got bored and jelous
Reddit has such bizarre policies, they’re cool with some pretty horrible stuff being on their platform but mean words are strictly forbidden.
I can go watch people die in all sorts of horrible ways, engage in a bullying/harassment campaign until someone kills themself, or hop onto a porn sub where there is barely any age verification but if I say r*tard I’ll get banned. So dumb.
Unless something threatens the ad money, they couldn't give less of a shit.
They had jailbait subs for years and only got rid because advertiser's started to notice. Reddit the company is entitly profit motivated, and the Reddit admins... well
The problem with having this kind of belief is that you'll start treating most people like scum, which will add overall more negativity into the world.
2nd anon is sadly right. There's a certain level of evil in "normies" that a lot of outcasts and misfits simply don't have or can't have due to not fitting in. I think there's more good people than bad but it's not a tiny minority but enough that you meet them day to day if you interact with people. People who are outcasts from regular society don't have that sort of evil in them most of the time because they're misfits and they can't afford to be nasty to the people who are willing to interact with them and won't be nasty to "fit in" because they never will. Not only is it a case of can't, but won't as well, I've noticed I have distanced myself from most of humanity because of this, once you notice how there's a distinct group of "human" who is just vile, absolutely disgusting in soul, why would I want to interact and "fit in" with those things.
It's why a lot of people who are more online don't actually understand some of the shit like victim blaming rape victims or just otherwise unusually cruel but non physical abusiveness. They fundamentally can't understand why someone would act that way to such a degree they think it's a imagined problem, because they're incapable of grasping how nasty some people can be simply for nastiness sake. The idea of calling a girl a whore for being violently assaulted is inhuman but I've multiple times heard people judge women IN REAL LIFE, IN A PHYSICAL ENVIROMENT WITH THEIR FACE AND VOICE, TO OTHER PEOPLE for stuff such as being spiked or even making disgusting snide comments about their appearance for absolutely zero reason.
Also autism has a strong fascination with "utility" which is why a lot of autists love the idea of a meritocracy and being mean to people for no reason has little to no actual value materiality. Even the more bitter people online explain their bitterness using "evidence" and experiences rather than just being nasty and bitter because they want to be, and a lot of them if they interact with someone who shows them care and even the slightest of warmth, even something as simple as a waitress giving them a coffee they didn't ask for because it's cold outside, can have huge impacts on that bitter toxic rage that's coiled up inside them.
Some "normal "people have a fascination for violence and complete degenerate behaviors. But you can't just be a degenerate for no reason because that isnt seen as socially correct. So they use good motives/things that are seen as worth to fight for to act like degenerates where in that case it isn't seen as negatively as in normal circumstances.
White women should only listen to the opinions of men. There's no reason for them to be grouping up with ugly girls online who will get them to act and look black or off themselves.
I work in a bakery. Only other guy with a ton of women. Women hate other women. Women claim men hate women but its quite the opposite. Women talk shit about women more than anyone else I've ever seen.
Most news articles didn't talk about this being because of bullying but rather because she had every mental illness below the sun. Depression, adhd, bipolarism, etc.
Actual fucking pieces of shit. I hope all they love and hope for turns to dust right in front of their eyes. Who could bully and actively harass someone that was doing good for the world and making a difference for animals that need it? I hope 4chan or someone else find out who these losers are and dox them so that they can face the consequences of their actions.
all_hail_michael_p@reddit
when you gather women together on snark subreddits / facebook groups you will see how truly barbaric and evil they can get
Evignity@reddit
Fucking irony of this post is insane
HughMungusVII@reddit
That's the thing. There were no "women" on that subreddit.
PowerfulPenisVacuum@reddit
Because women can't behave as such? come on
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
I think she might have been happy and fulfilled
Women hate when other are women happy
all_hail_michael_p@reddit
the thing that gets me is how random their targets are, you'll stumble upon a 400k member snark page with massive activity dedicated to waging total jihad against some random female instagram model whose worst crime is posing to make her butt look bigger in pictures
SierraDespair@reddit
Women despise each other.
Krunkbuster@reddit
I used to believe that wasn’t true but every time I get to know a woman I’m reminded that for some reason there’s a lot of fucking psychos out there
Obscure_Candidate_42@reddit
Women despise everyone. Don't join the medical field. They go after us first, then when it's just them they consume each other
Aguacatedeaire__@reddit
Yeah that women despise each other is a common misconception. They do, but only after their primary target, men.
There were studies done applying electrodes to the head and measuring the activation of the empathy areas of the brain when the subject was exposed to videos of male or female subjects suffering injuries, body damage etc.
Surprise surprise, males showed more empathy for females than for males, but still activation for both.
The "empathic gender" instead showed almost no activation watching men suffer. That applied to males of any age. Any. Age.
They basically don't even recognize us as members of the same species basically, we're like animals to them. It's why horse girls are so common, for a woman every man is basically a horse. Some are exciting stallions, others are old worn down donkeys. Still, just a tool to make work for you, to give you stuff, to give you unpredictable emotions.
If you think about it and apply it to your real life experiences, it makes perfect sense. Women try to fake empathy toward males because that's the socially acceptable thing to do, but it's an entirely performative act, it never comes natural.
It's why every woman, even the apparently sweetest one, will immediately lose any attraction to you the instant she'll see you crying, no matter the reason. Even in the most cucked subreddits you'll see reports of that, men that have been scolded and then left for.... crying because their mother just died.
It's insane, but its harsh biology and it doesn't even stops with their own male childs.
Think about it, what happened every single time you or one of your little friends had something or someone smaking the balls? The first reaction of the women bystanders, mom, teachers, grandmas, everyone will burst laughing. Always.
That's literally their children and grandchildren, their supposed genetical future getting threatened.
Doesn't matter, it's hylarious at least for the first seconds until their biological drive to act nice kicks in and they start faking feeling sorry and worried. But the first seconds are always of laughter.
PauL__McShARtneY@reddit
This reads like it was posted by a literal, anthropomorphised and fully sentient fedora that was on a quest to become a real boy after it got lost on the way to r9k.
This gonna be the foreword to your active shooter manifesto?
Obscure_Candidate_42@reddit
preach. I don't have a great memory, but I distinctly remember as a kid never feeling like the women above us looked at little boys with sincere care. From mothers and aunts to teachers and aides, older women were heartless to little boys 99% of the time. I was left at my school a couple of times when my parents were a minute late to pick me up, you think the women ever left the girls alone outside a locked school?
Moviestarstoidolize@reddit
That sounds like a load of shit. You are telling me women with kids didn't have that receptor active?
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HarambeamsOfSteel@reddit
Can you link this study or is this just baseless gender war bullshit that serves only to divide people?
maxxslatt@reddit
Lmao Yeah can I get a source to this “study” ? Sounds gake and fae
Timeon@reddit
Is that why it's called the Butlerian jihad in Dune?
SpecialistParticular@reddit
Reminds me of that anti-Emmy Rossum group from the early 2000s, supposedly started by someone who went to private school with her.
Mpasserby@reddit
The worst part is the fake ass morality that they practice “oh we’re going after her bc she used photoshop and created unrealistic standards for other young girls” so they act like they’re morally right. At least the male driven witch hunts tend to be more blatant about just despising the other person for no good reason rather than hiding behind a shield of righteousness.
Double-Regular31@reddit
Translation from thot to English: she's hotter than me. I must destroy her so Chad will love me and only me.
cosplay-degenerate@reddit
That's because the demiurge forces them to be something that they don't want to be and their material body does not understand how or why their soul gets bent out of shape. However, on a subconscious level they know something is wrong with them, but they can't formulate it, they must endure the lie or their tongue has been ripped out and replaced.
When you see these "art exhibitions" of women screaming and pointing at their vaginas in the forest or wherever then they are screaming that their children are being taken away and that they are powerless to do something about it and they want to say "bring it back, please please bring it back".
At least that's my interpretation.
Timeon@reddit
We must topple Saklas.
FeelzDankMan@reddit
Meds
cosplay-degenerate@reddit
There are multiple types of rage rituals that women do. When I saw them smashing sticks they reminded me of how I did the same thing when I was a kid and why I did it, so I didn't immediately dismiss it as them going bonkers for no reason.
Just because you/we don't understand something at first glance, it doesn't mean there's no rhyme or reason to it.
A woman is an element of chaos and to be the ideal partner for a woman means to master and order the chaos raging inside her but not by being forceful but through proper guidance. To master chaos you need to understand it and chaos isn't when a woman talks. Talking is an orderly act, it's not their element. Chaos shows itself in rage and irrationality and in screaming and kicking and biting or simply "emotions".
So what purpose could there be for a woman to be in a forest, raise her skirt to reveal her privates and scream into the sky alongside several of her contemporaries and why does it resonate with them so much?
I can't reconstruct my entire reasoning anymore but the conclusion I came to was that something had been taken away from them and the frustration of that loss makes them scream.
From there I went on to think about childbirth and how weird it was that one of the first people a newborn interacts with is the doctor, then the mother and then the father and not the parents first or how a Cesarian cut differs from a natural birth and what would it mean for our evolution when we stop shitting out babies and how the emergence into life is not one of struggle but comfort.
After that I decided that my child will receive a water birth. To struggle into life and be gracefully caught by mother nature and into the arms of its father.
nikoll-toma@reddit
how is it possible to reach such levels of autism?
strife696@reddit
Please go outside
Sharky-Li@reddit
Aristotle basically said women are deficient men.
Aguacatedeaire__@reddit
It's difficult to argue otherwise
icedragon71@reddit
And Al Bundy said to never try and understand women. Because women understand women, and that's why they hate each other.
snrup1@reddit
That's exactly what it is. She's happy and enjoying her life. Miserable women who are now heading toward middle age like a freight train are spiraling.
11freebird@reddit
No happy and fulfilled person would game end themselves because of people online shit talking them
EHStormcrow@reddit
Depends how many people are doing it.
High school kids unalive themselves every year because of online harassement by school"mates"
11freebird@reddit
But those people probably aren’t happy and fulfilled. No happy and fulfilled person will take their own lives because of comments from the internet.
EHStormcrow@reddit
OK, can you stay happy and fulfilled if you have a thousands of people ganging up on you online ?
BraveSquirrel@reddit
ya just log off
Swaggy_Baggy@reddit
Ehhhh I don’t know about far away. Apparently, it had gotten to the point where family, friends and her peers in animal rescue were perpetuating some of the lies and harassment targeting her.
BraveSquirrel@reddit
"friends"
Swaggy_Baggy@reddit
With “friends” like those who needs enemies lol
11freebird@reddit
Yeah, just block them or delete your account if it’s so bad you want to end it.
AntDracula@reddit
Oh well then it’s fine then, carry on.
CobrinoHS@reddit
Yeah she had severe mental illness
NachoNutritious@reddit
The "Are We Dating the Same Guy" Facebook groups are some of the worst hives of catty gossip and witch hunts on false pretenses.
The internet should have never been made user friendly and easy for normies to use, it should have stayed the realm of hobbyist nerds with the most accessible parts being phpBB-based forums.
_Rook_Castle@reddit
"Please insert Penis to log in"
PauL__McShARtneY@reddit
Please remove excess fat rolls from verification area, thank you.
Tobbewarman@reddit
"Size not recognised please re-insert"
Lower_Hat@reddit
The cd rom drive was made obsolete for a reason
Icy-Cup@reddit
Normies, not only men. Also - do you plan to probe it for number of jerk-offs per day to check normie-level?
Jamba-Jew@reddit
"Is it in yet?"
NachoNutritious@reddit
⚠️𝐏𝐋𝐄𝐀𝐒𝐄 𝐃𝐑𝐈𝐍𝐊 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐈𝐅𝐈𝐂𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍 𝐂𝐀𝐍 𝐓𝐎 𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐔𝐄⚠️
ViennaKing@reddit
VeniVidiEtRisit@reddit
What’s the reference?
ViennaKing@reddit
Google “4chan verification can”
VeniVidiEtRisit@reddit
Not as bad as I was expecting it to be
MeBeEric@reddit
Some of the most classic 4chan posts are very rarely offensive
Zeiqix@reddit
you have to go back.
Inevitable-Stage-490@reddit
I was posted on one by an angry ex, I was innocent, and she tried to spread lies and rumors about me. My current GF (if you can believe it) defended me and got the post taken down
_YourWifesBull_@reddit
I miss the old forum days so much. The barrier to entry for the internet is far too low.
celebral_x@reddit
I lurk in these subreddits and once I accidentally gave my two cents. Guess who's banned.
booplesnoopp@reddit
Teaching women to read was the first mistake all downhill after that.
Skrivz@reddit
Fr gonna move to an Islamic country soon
SouthMoth@reddit
"The internet should have never been made user friendly and easy for normies to use, it should have stayed the realm of hobbyist nerds with the most accessible parts being phpBB-based forums."
blackwolfLT7@reddit
They wanna date the same guy so it's understandable that these forums were invented
19Alexastias@reddit
That group is hilarious though. I love seeing the unhinged shit pop up on my feed every so often.
Moviestarstoidolize@reddit
I find myself thinking this more and more and how gatekeeping really isn't the worst of things. People just abuse their freedoms sometimes a
Shatophiliac@reddit
That group is like 98% bait posts now though. Ever since they introduced the anonymous posting, it’s just people posting themselves or famous people.
Stunning-Drawer-4288@reddit
The one guy I know who actually deserves to be on those groups had his post removed after a girl attacked the poster (his ex and my friend)
If anyone’s concerned that the guy doesn’t deserve it, I’ve known him for decades. He does.
AntDracula@reddit
You deserve worse.
Stunning-Drawer-4288@reddit
lol I literally didn’t do anything. I didn’t put him up on the page I was just told about it.
The man’s a pathological liar who’s tried to sleep with minors, has cheated on every girl he’s ever dated (I was even the one to catch him on one occasion), has knowingly spread STDs, and preempted each of those behaviors with lovebombing. Is that your guy? You don’t think that guy deserves a bad reputation?
I agree there’s an inherent issue in these groups but this is the type of guy that deserves it.
AntDracula@reddit
Then call the cops, you bundle of cigarettes. Don’t support a gaggle of rabid roasties trying to get woman-justice (aka nothing even approaching justice).
Pitiful_Special_8745@reddit
I met a girl at a party who admitted to own/moderate a local FB group like that.
Later even when sober she is the most selfish, arrogant and inconsiderate woman I ever met.
No wonder she is single. What a shame.
Sargo8@reddit
It was a subreddit that bullied her.
DM_ME_KAIJUS@reddit
What for? I don't understand what there was to bully her about.
Sargo8@reddit
Some of the last messages were critique her for taking in another animal after taking in a fox missing a leg and not expanding its enclosure? idk petty bullshit. the subreddit is called "save a fox" or soemthing
pyropup55@reddit
saveafox is the legit subreddit, add a snark to the end and that was the one causing the problems
babywhiz@reddit
It really did get worse. in some sub read it here. I found a link that gave me something to Google search that took me to another Reddit post that had a Google Docs link that had a phone dump of text messages that we’re talking about how she’s supposedly stole some pets because the people weren’t taking care of them and some other shady stuff that could’ve just been people between each other because of how it was cropped. I think the worst part of that Google Docs dump was some pictures of her and her friends that look like they were private and all in fun in this person that created this Google Docs dump, included all those pics. Honestly, if it had been me and those pics, I would’ve owned that shit. People do all kinds of shit in private otherwise we wouldn’t have rule 34 or 4chan. The people that dumped that information and made her look bad should pay.
Enverex@reddit
That was just part of it, people IRL were apparently the biggest contributor.
Sargo8@reddit
Oof. Why.
McWeaksauce91@reddit
Even worse, what I saw is that it was competitive animal rescue groups who were large contributors to this harassment. It led me into a deep dive of how fucking cruel rescues are to one another.
“No one is allowed to rescue anything, unless it’s me. And I will fucking destroy you, if you do. I will make it my mission in life” - is the common sentiment.
AntiProtonBoy@reddit
People who are competitive in activities that is supposed to be altruistic are basically narcissists who role play virtuosity for personal image building reasons.
Sad-Run4631@reddit
In rescue, sadly, I can confirm. If people would work together we'd get so much more done
MeBeEric@reddit
It dawned on me that “progressive” subreddits are absolute hives of the most disgusting and aggressive fantasies and hypotheticals ever. Like they’ll take a blank act by a person they don’t like then spew the most offensive shit possible because “that’s probably what they’re thinking” motherfucker it came from YOUR MIND what the fuck
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
I lean econ left, socially conservative but liberal (do what you want behind closed doors, as long as you're not endangering anyone, and pay your taxes), but boyyyyy do I prefer hanging out with conservatives more than progressives. Like, obviously crazies on both sides, but the average politically active conservative just seems more... normal? Less inclined to make everything political?
Redditbecamefacebook@reddit
Lol. This thread being a perfect example. Nobody was talking left vs right before you guys piped up talking about how lefties always turn things political.
MeBeEric@reddit
I can only speak for myself but I’m certainly not a Trumper. Cope seethe and dilate with your retarded assumptions you’re all the fucking same lmao
AMC2Zero@reddit
Agree, as long as they're not openly MAGA.
MeBeEric@reddit
Making any form of politics your personality is lame as fuck there’s literally no two ways about it.
MeBeEric@reddit
Same exact boat as you. My gripe is that they like touting openness and tolerance but live and try to enforce the most rigid worldviews and lifestyles. Literally the least tolerable to be around.
InfiniteRaccoons@reddit
Gaming circle jerk brigading every stream they could find of people playing Harry Potter and telling them to kill themselves. Really disapproving the trans / mental illness connection hypothesis.
MeBeEric@reddit
Somebody on Twitter tried comparing using slurs to if they killed the “racist’s” family members. Like how stupid are you to thing a mean word is equal to mass murder lmao
ZikaZmaj@reddit
I was unaware of these snark subredditd until I randomly searched doctor mike after getting a video recommended and found doctormikesnark. I can't tell if it's 20 mentally ill people or just 1 talking to itself but they people need help.
RatioTechnical234@reddit
lmao jesus fucking christ, i checked it out of curiosity.
and its just a bunch of women seething, they hate him cause he has a hot GF,
And also apparently the age gap between 35 yo man dating 25 yo woman gave them the ick.
so its just a bunch of expired hags catlady seething at the sight of happy young women.
i guess its true that the biggest women haters are not men, but other women.
kek
s00pafly@reddit
This is the wrong doctor mike.
ytoatx@reddit
The main offender also had that blue pink white flag in their profile so you know they prob a little off in the head
BoloRoll@reddit
So it was jealousy then
ytoatx@reddit
You tell me popculturechat/s/eCxO1EnZlO
BoloRoll@reddit
Did some digging. That one user apparently draws animal porn
ManicStreetTeachers@reddit
And they also post in a subreddit dedicated to admiring photos of actual male cat balls.
Arete34@reddit
So typical trans online behavior then?
ytoatx@reddit
I've got alphabet people fatigue
home_rolled@reddit
NIHS's own statistics show 60+% of them have narcissistic personality disorder, which is a total coincidence by the way and has nothing to do with anything so stop being a hater bro
azaza34@reddit
Could you do us a favor and tell them to hang Christmas ornaments?
ytoatx@reddit
Yeah I mean... whenever I see that countries flag I can already tell the person is not all there
BoloRoll@reddit
There is also a potential backup account/alt account where they post about necrophila not being bad, that disabled people shouldn’t be allowed to exist and that defended the bullying page.
If it isn’t the flag person, it still shows you the caliber of people that were using that subreddit
ytoatx@reddit
pretty miserable people
Never-Preorder@reddit
Can you tell me who that is?
ytoatx@reddit
Cant link but put r/ in front of my other reply
Responsible-Onion860@reddit
I noticed this back in college. I was a dating a girl who lived in the student housing, which was set up apartment-style with 2-4 girls per apartment. Each year, there was inevitably one of the four girls who was singled out as the outcast and treated like garbage. Barbaric and petty shit, like peeing in her shampoo bottle, turning off the breaker for her room when she was watching a movie with her boyfriend, licking her clean dishes, etc. Her only crime was being the odd one out.
Then another girl upset everyone, so they turned on her. They treated her like shit including hinting to her boyfriend that she was cheating (she wasn't). She ended up moving out mid-year and two of them went back to bullying the first.
Girls in groups will multiply one another's pettiness until they're all extremely vicious.
Legend13CNS@reddit
Same thing happens in the working world too sadly. It's becoming more common in my field with the push for ✨#womenInSTEM✨. The magic number of woman engineers at the same level in a single team is 0,1, or 7+. Anything in that 2-6 range is guaranteed to turn into what you described, with a higher likelihood the closer you are to 2. If they're on separate teams or organization levels, i.e. don't have to work together often, any number is fine.
InfiniteRaccoons@reddit
If you've ever owned chickens you see the exact same behavior amongst the hens
anythinga@reddit
One of the main bullies isn't even a real woman.
And will never be a real one either, for the record.
SpecialistParticular@reddit
But how does that explain Batdan and his 15-year crusade against Chris Bores?
nullv@reddit
You say that like there aren't a bunch of dudes chilling on a farm, milking the biggest lolcows on the internet.
verwarde_jongere@reddit
If you're talking about kiwifarms, that place is disproportionally female too and Josh is weirdly feminist.
I wish we had a board to talk about lolcows tbh. Jannies refuse to give us one but whenever they're asleep and one slips through on a blue board it's really funny.
mollekylen@reddit
now try to remember who forced chris chan to do the most wile shit and wanted him to kill himself?
TomtheWonderDog@reddit
True, but a counterpoint is that there used to be a female lolcow website that was way worse (and more inept in their harassment) than farms
AnotherScoutTrooper@reddit
individual majority-female snark pages have more activity than that entire site on a daily basis
newrimmmer93@reddit
It’s insane. Everyone once in a while you’ll click on someone’s profile and they have hundreds of posts about some random IG influencer. They’re demented
all_hail_michael_p@reddit
its like they found a digital way to get with eachother at sewing club and gossip about the local eccentric woman who married a guy 5 years younger than her, complete insanity
newrimmmer93@reddit
I think the worst is that women have a weird way of justifying it as well. Like with every fitness influencer it’s “o it’s ok because they are giving people the wrong idea about what’s a normal body and they’re lying about steroid use” or something.
Most guys at least know when they’re bullying someone they’re being pricks, or there’s a general idea about shame. But these communities run rampant.
Even the “are we dating the same guy” groups are wild. My buddy apparently got posted on 1 when he was a virgin because some girl thought he was leading her on when in reality he’s an awkward dude who was scared of an intimate relationship haha.
AdolescentAlien@reddit
r/ thefighterandthekid is definitely shameless. Place used to be genuinely funny. It’s gone off the rails in my opinion.
newrimmmer93@reddit
That was my least favorite sub since they would post the homeless tiger shit in threads in every other sub. Like yeah, Schaub is a huge fucking loser. But you know who else is? Bobby Lee lol. Bobby is just more self aware and talented but it’s not like he’s some fucking saint
AdolescentAlien@reddit
Yeah I really don’t care how much they make fun of him and the other Rogan slurping comedians but the constant obsession with his family is embarrassing. I left a few months ago because I felt like I was only seeing posts about his wife.
Yeah sure, she’s a vapid wannabe Instagram influencer. I don’t fucking care. They genuinely act like catty women over there lmao.
smurb15@reddit
Goddamm you made a valid point that I'm apart of a few that I'm deleting right now.
I never comment, just lurk
MrDagoth@reddit
There must be some twisted reason, these groups always have some sick delusions that helps justify their behaviour.
I don't agree in any way, but I'm curious what was their problem with her?
cvntfvck3r@reddit
found out about this from this post, day ruined and deleting this account. fuck this website 🖕
belletti@reddit
Why would someone kill themselves because of some jerks writing mean things on twatter or derpbook? Just ignore them FFS
CemeneTree@reddit
no no no
not the fox rescue center
omnipotentks@reddit
What happened?
DaniFoxglove@reddit
The woman who was the face for the Save A Fox organization (made the videos, spearheading rescue operations, fundraising, etc), was the target of a bullying campaign from, apparently, a loosely organized group of losers.
She killed herself due to being unable to cope. Left behind the organization, the foxes and other animals, a husband, and children.
It's actually pretty sad.
I_am_NotOP@reddit
Which subreddit
Fittnylle3000@reddit
KazeoLion was a integral part of it.
Of course its a furry pdf "artist"
KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit
furries should be spayed and neutered
DotEnvironmental1990@reddit
Unfortunatly they dont reproduce the usual way and instead convert to reproduce, baning them from internet would solve the situation
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KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit
shadow banning would be best. Maybe they should call an ICE raid at their next gathering
BubaSmrda@reddit
tame, chop them up into pieces and feed them to the animals
diggersinthedark@reddit
Just grind them up like male chicks
Skwiggelf54@reddit
Yeah, I'd like to know too
_one_person@reddit
SaveAfoxSnark and they went private
Some didn't want to get their feelings hurt and started deleting accounts: https://web.archive.org/web/20250424182656/https://www.reddit.com/user/Pale-Explanation-709/
Skwiggelf54@reddit
What a bunch of pieces of shit.
robman792@reddit
Saveafoxsnark, because they couldn’t come up with a better name
i_am_schizo-retarded@reddit
Is it possible that the fox-fur industry did this?
I'm of the belief that 'vegan-hate' is a psy-op conducted by the meat industry - so I'm just curious.
nuuudy@reddit
holy shit, I heard about some chick from fox rescue, but I didn't know it was the fox rescue
hell, I even watched a couple of her videos
what was even the reason for it? surely, they didn't just wake up one day and collectively went: "yeah. Today, I'm going to bully this gal for no apparent reason"
DaniFoxglove@reddit
Never really dealt with bullies much?
nuuudy@reddit
I did. I was one of the bullies
But I can't imagine making a whole-ass mini society focused solely on bullying one person for 0 reason. I prefer to spread the bullying among many people. I'm fair in that regard
jokes aside, that's a whole lot of dedication without an apparent reason, no?
DaniFoxglove@reddit
nuuudy@reddit
hey, I mean - no point denying it. It was a while ago
BraveSquirrel@reddit
hey without bullies like you people like me couldn't pat themselves on the back for the rest of their life for standing up to you, so thanks for doing your part!
nuuudy@reddit
fair enough. I for one, really like pretending I have superpowers. Reality is sometimes boring, so we all gotta do what we gotta do
MeBeEric@reddit
What’s your superpower of choice?
nuuudy@reddit
standing up to bullies, and them ending up unsuccessful in life
fat_nuts_big_buttz@reddit
Early and often
Nathan_hale53@reddit
Just being a public face is enough anymore. And a woman who may or may not react worse than others. Its sad af
SenatorCoffee@reddit
From what I read it was supposedly the rescue being kind of sleezy. As in from an animal welfare point, as well as supposed grifting. Constantly doing fundraising but then her husband is seen driving a 400k car.
No idea how true any of it is, but thats the gossip.
Pervasivepeach@reddit
Reminder for ironic effect the group that spearheaded her harrasment was a furry, along with most of the others.
YogoWafelPL@reddit
Jesus fucking Christ
That_Is_My_Band_Name@reddit
Save a Fox founder, Mikayla Raines, dies by suicide following online harassment from snark subreddits.
One redditor/Tumblr/Furaffinity user (yeah you can guess the type of person ) in particular is doubling down their responsibility as being one of those who harassed her.
kingsofall@reddit (OP)
responsibility how...."Sorry, we pushed a woman into suicide.. we'll gladly go to prison if it makes us look better,"
At worst, these guys we'll close up shop and wait for another victim...a best delete thier accounts and vanish off the internet... All we can do now is just mourn and hope it dosen't happen again
GandalfTheGimp@reddit
It's not 2004 anymore and nobody on Reddit is anonymous
That_Is_My_Band_Name@reddit
Online harassment can be prosecuted, so they could still be held accountable.
omnipotentks@reddit
That’s terrible. May she rest in peace.
Not-VonSpee@reddit
Why is it always so painfully obvious that it's that *type* of person?
That_Is_My_Band_Name@reddit
People who are not habitually online s have better things to do than harass people online.
Never-Preorder@reddit
Can you pm me their account?
plasticmanufacturing@reddit
What was their reasoning for harassing her?
That_Is_My_Band_Name@reddit
I guess they were claiming she was abusing the foxes somehow? Idk. You won't be able to go into the mind of a furry fanartist and understand their reasoning.
Hot-Manager-2789@reddit
Because we all know rescuing = abuse
twofacetoo@reddit
'lol lmao' as far as most can figure.
eaglecream@reddit
Did you see the video where she gave all the foxes eggs. It’s probably the cutest thing I’ve seen in my life. There’s very few people who could inspire so much empathy. She knew all the foxes names and habits.
EpicureanOwl@reddit
I really hope someone doxes these evil people. I've never shed a tear after a celebrity death before this.
Scisir@reddit
Ok I two things to say here:
First: We do live in the worst timeline.
Second: I'm really struggling to understand how someone could commit suicide when their lives appear to be so fulfilling. Husband, children, a fox saving organization. You get to cuddle foxes all day. popular youtube channel with fans. Like how do bullies online affect your life at that point. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not shitting on Mikayla here. I'm just baffled at how she wasn't able to ignore the bullies.
Stoic_Breeze@reddit
Could also be that she struggled with depression
nuuudy@reddit
could be. I doubt she got depressed purely because some randoms on internet decided to bully her, but I don't really think it matters anyhow
TalbotFarwell@reddit
Maybe she was depressed all along and the gang of assholes dedicated to bullying her finally pushed her over the edge.
RIP Ms. Raines.
chisana_nyu@reddit
Her husband said she had depression, BPD, and was on the spectrum. So she did have a lot on her plate.
DotherOfLife@reddit
Why did she struggle with it? I found it pretty easy!
SierraDespair@reddit
It’s likely this. You can have everything going for you but if your brain chemicals decide fuck it I’m not happy you can’t control that easily. It’s more likely she suffered from depression than that put her over the edge rather than mean comments.
IDrinkSulfuricAcid@reddit
Yup. BPD certainly didn't help either. RIP.
Blackout1154@reddit
Yeah.. I’m sure most YTubers with a significant following get shit on by faceless/nameless people online frequently.. the vast majority ignore it and keep doing their thing.
Ctanzz@reddit
She had severe depression and was slightly on the spectrum. According to her husband she really got fucked up from the bullying.
lulululul666@reddit
She had onlyfans. No joke.
Exchequer_Eduoth@reddit
Her husband said she had autism and BPD. So basically no ability to ignore the hate being sent her way by terminally online losers who couldn’t put their money where their mouths were like she did for years.
Jesus__of__Nazareth_@reddit
Well there's the issue.
NeverEverStopJerkin@reddit
If there was a cure for BPD we would at least be ten percent closer to world peace.
Skrivz@reddit
The cure is men owning women like we did for oh idk 5000 years. let’s that back
Eggmasstree@reddit
Wait she commited suicide ?! The fucking fuck ?
19Alexastias@reddit
You can have what people believe to be the perfect life and still be wildly depressed. It can be caused by life circumstances but not always, and it can sometimes be alleviated by changing your life’s circumstances but not always.
Top_Breath814@reddit
The real answer is that she probably was struggling with other things that are none of our business. Like online bullying is bad but unless something really bad gets leaked than it shouldn't cause someone to consider suicide. Most likely the story is a cover as to not bring shame to her or her family.
pyropup55@reddit
She was very open about he mental struggles she was facing. Ethan, her husband, talked about it in the video, but on her personal facebook page, she went into a lot of details, it wasn't an sudden thing.
Mediocre-Good3570@reddit
One of their posts came up for me a couple days before it happened. It was talking how they need 90k in donations a month to run the rescue and how they were always struggling with that. Like yes they had all these things but if it’s collapse is on the horizon, and the people who were critiquing you for that sort of thing were right, then imo it’s understandable.
MinosML@reddit
Idk man I had a relatively fulfilling life growing up but my brain was mostly like: "You know what'd be funny? If this fucker felt like shit the whole day everyday for no reason and all. And then would feel guilty about feeling like shit without actual problems in his life when people are having it worse and not complaining as much as him. Haha, that'd be hilarious ngl"
My brain (without meds) just doesn't produce as much dopamine as the next person it seems. It's just that tiny difference that makes me depressed in any scenario even when all pointers say I should feel good about things.
SweetLobsterBabies@reddit
Imagine a little voice in your head telling you that every single problem you stress about could be solved if you didn't exist. It's similar to how you say "just walk away from the computer and ignore the bullies"
But it's an inner dialogue. It's constantly in your head, and when it's quiet you don't notice. But when it's loud, it's loud. It drowns out normal thoughts and solutions. It pushes it's way to the front and yells and SCREAMS at you. At times it's unbearable, hearing it makes you want to listen and obey. Maybe ending it all is the only way to get it to stop. Maybe that little voice starts to sound like the only voice of reason. Maybe it's truly the only right solution.
Without a strong mental conviction (ironic huh) or outside help, you gaslight yourself into a deeper, darker hole. I don't want to use the word depression, because sometimes that fucking voice is not accompanied by normal depressive symptoms.
There's many different forms of "suicidal ideation" and there is in my opinion layers to it. The last layer is dark. Pitch black. A darkness that you can never truly comprehend unless you have stared at it. It's captivating and welcoming. It's assertive and comforting. It's relaxing, like a nightly ritual after a long day. It puts on a mask and pretends to be some form meditation. Indulge and you will feel better. Like the devil offering an apple that will lead you to infinite possibilities. Except the only thing you want is for your stress and worries to disappear.
I genuinely am glad that you DON'T fully empathize with this, because it's a horrible and dark experience that I wouldn't wish on anyone.
But for the people that have been there, it's understandable. And it's sad.
benjathje@reddit
ok good to know I'm not the only one hat feels like something is missing here.
Fucanelli@reddit
Same. Like, walk away from the computer, end your web presence. Why not try digital/social suicide before actual physical suicide?
Green_Soft4376@reddit
If only there was a field of study to answer questions about brain functions you don't deal with personally...
droogvertical@reddit
Some people are exceptionally sensitive to bullying and harassment. When such people become internet famous, public figures, or targets of harassment it can result in some crazy shit happening.
le_sossurotta@reddit
i don't know how bad the bullying got, but more often than not these things are a matter of perspective. if the bully manages to hook you it can easily become all you know, it can feel so real and intense, i have been through it myself even though the bullying itself was very insignificant. but to be driven into suicide by it makes it sound like the husband may not have been completely there for her either, still hearing about her fate had to be the saddest news i have heard this year.
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ChampionChimpanzee@reddit
Suicide isn't necessarily rational.
You can be in a position where you have everything going for you but the neurochemistry just isn't right and everything makes you miserable regardless.
Some people just get consumer by it and think it's a choice between suffering for 50 more years or pulling the plug now and avoiding all that future pain.
Still, rather selfish decision for a mother and wife to make but people don't do it out of weakness, they do it because they are carrying an unbearable burden without any purpose.
CreasingUnicorn@reddit
Depression doesnt play nice, and often the better off people are the worse they feel about being depressed.
"But you cant have depression, you have a nice life!" Is exactly what you shouldnt say to a depressed person because it makes them feel worse about themselves. If you arent happy when all your dreams come true, then will anytbing make you happy?
Depression is an illness that requires medical treatment, and those with depressice symptoms should get proffesional help. Your brain is literally not workimg correctly, its not your fault, and you are not a faipure for feeling sad when the world tells you to feel happy.
OliverMonster1@reddit
I'm reminded of 4chan leaving absolutely repulsive comments on the YouTube channel of a young woman doing book reviews. Tampon baby, anyone else remember?
https://imgur.com/lit-s-lowest-moment-Qn0ZdmF
NuclearOrangeCat@reddit
Reddit: A-ok!
Reddit: Suppress it, ban it, etc.
BanIfYouRGhey@reddit
Many such cases
Stillborne330@reddit
on 4chan wondering why people would bully... God they really are stupid
EpsteinsBro@reddit
I’m just asking, but was it a trans community that bullied her? No hate, nothing. Just asking a question because that’s what big “news” outlets are saying
Pervasivepeach@reddit
It was a prominent furry developer and a bunch of their fans ontop of a wave of TikTok and tumblr minors. The main claims were:
She supports the fur farm industry by buying foxes. Which isn’t true (she did buy out a farm to save 500 foxes but most foxes she saved were injured one’s already set to die)
Used drugs. Which who cares she’s saving animals
Had bad conditions for her foxes. Which is also just not true, her sanctuary was open to the public and people went across the world to see it.
She didn’t pay her staff. (She runs a two man show with volunteers ofc she doesn’t pay volunteers)
The main culprit is KazeoLion. Here’s there now archived post
https://web.archive.org/web/20230522222714/https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalRescue/comments/13p5jg4/psa_saveafox_is_a_hoarder_not_a_rescue/
This person has since deleted pretty much every account he has
ShadyClusterCharge@reddit
Fucking reddit, but still how did this happen? I just can't believe someone would do this over some insignificant online haters. There probably was something else that led her to go this path.
Pervasivepeach@reddit
because it bled into her real life. and its her job. She lives and keeps these foxes alive through donations and maintaining goodwill. and this harrasment campaign lasted years and was only growing. In the video her husband posted he says it had gotten to a point where close irl friends were turning against her and believing some of the rumors against her.
ShadyClusterCharge@reddit
What kind of actual friend would turn on you over something so petty? 😔
SmoothSentiment@reddit
I retort, most people are stupid and that includes you and me. Meaning, it’s context few ever think about what they’re really doing seriously and honestly for those depressed, which I was chronically depressed for about 12 years you gotta get over it. People are worth thinking about and when they get in your head it’s because you’re deeply uncertain with yourself, but when you understand those emotions in you that feel unheard you should simply think what’s the point in having them if I’m not trying to show people. Give up on your image and craft something you’d be ok living in and that’s not a price tag it’s your own way of life. Just get with it and be others will take note and attempt to adjust and you just enforce the boundaries that you keep so you can love yourself better. Hate how no one ever says this.
Possible-Feed-9228@reddit
4channers virtue signaling about online bullying to suicide was not on my 2025 bingo card
bluecurse60@reddit
It is heartbreaking
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
I don't know what this is about but as someone who is a huge consumer of animal videos, people in the comments are the most miserable bags of shit on the planet and I'm saying that without an ounce of hyperbole.
I saw one today of a kitten who was dry heaving on its sleeping sibling. It was funny, like "What a goofy little shit going to puke on his sibling, of course he's orange too." What do the comments say? "Put down the camera and help him!" Help him do what you stupid bag of crap? You gonna hold the 4 month old cat's hair back for him? Zero thoughts about it, just immediate blame of and spite towards the uploader.
Why would you bully an animal rescue YouTube channel? Because anyone who sees it and feels any negativity towards it will do everything in their power to force their miasma to spread. Cruella DeVille is real and there's a thousand of her.
NachoNutritious@reddit
Facebook pages are terrible about who just want to hear the sound of their own voice.
I'm in a FB group for my city that's based around helping people find things in the region. Awhile back someone asked "Hey I'm looking for a bottle of Eagle Rare, have y'all seen it in any stores around?" and some braindead girlie replied "I haven't, but my local liquor store looks like it carries bourbon so maybe they have it!"
So you don't know? You don't know if they have Eagle Rare? Why are you posting in bro's thread if you don't fucking know?
RebelJustforClicks@reddit
That's my issue with social media in general.
My wife's uncle constantly goes on there and posts "Today is a great day". Like who TF cares what you think? Also no, it isnt, because every time I talk to him he is complaining about something. Or people will post "Just had a good dinner at". Well thanks for letting me know instead of inviting me to join.
I swear like 90% of people on FB can just shut up, nobody cares.
Finna_Otter_91@reddit
Sounds like you're just grumpy that you weren't invited.
RebelJustforClicks@reddit
Lol not at all. He's a notorious cheap ass and generally eats at the cheapest places in town.
_arc360_@reddit
So you are the person everyone else is complaining about, just wanted to make sure you knew k thnx bai
-Goatllama-@reddit
Cheap Ass - (G) (SF) (txt)
horse-admirer@reddit
Does anyone under the age of 40 post on Facebook in 2025?
robert712002@reddit
I do, sadly. Because it's still very popular locally and it's the only place where I can ask for or about that stuff. And yes, people are assholes for the most mundane reasons like asking if anyone has a certain part, and a smart ass will comment on it like "just make it yourself bro it's not that hard" and they post a picture of their handyman craftsmanship that they made
necropaw@reddit
To be slightly fair to the person, unless youre into 'rare' bourbon the concept is kinda fucking stupid.
Oh yes, this store orders it and would love to carry it, but theres not enough supply and people hoard it to re-sell. The concept of going to a bunch of stores to try to find it just seems stupid to me, and ive done it.
I think most people would think that if youre having a lot of trouble finding a 40 dollar bottle of booze, maybe just buy a different 40 dollar bottle of booze.
People that know whiskey know theres at least somewhat of a difference, and want to try the different ones and everything...but people that dont know bourbon are going to be kinda clueless on that.
Scarcity is a thing for a lot of products, but man...bourbon takes it to fucking 11.
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
IT'S NOT EVEN THAT HARD if you know the place and you're there specifically to help (some communities don't enable that and I can respect it) find something, CALL THEM. AND ASK. AND REPORT BACK. Are you obligated to help? No but there's a proper way to do it that will net 100% results and make the world a better place if you choose to expend the 3 minutes' worth of energy.
KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit
Got into an argument with some guy saying you shouldnt leave a dog X hours in a crate. Motherfuckers sleep all day and they cant nap in a cage while youre at work? Whats the alternative? Euthanize or a shelter?
19Alexastias@reddit
You lock your dog in a crate when you go to work?
KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit
For about 4 hours after his midday walk. The rest hes closed off in the kitchen area unless someone is home
RetardedSquirrel@reddit
Have you ever filmed your dog while you're at work? Sure they nap a lot but they do it in various places, plus they like being able to walk around checking any noise and whatnot.
But sure, if you leave the cage open it's fine.
nuuudy@reddit
comments under animal videos are worse dregs of society than youtube comments under popular songs
there is probably an even lower layer, but I'm not brave enough to look for it
Specialist_Okra2231@reddit
People under monkey videos deserve to be gassed
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
I've seen some really ugly parts of humanity and these are the ones that set me off the hardest
TomtheWonderDog@reddit
I've noticed that on a lot of animal videos, too.
On the crunchy cat meme there are tons of comments telling the owner he's going to break the cat's teeth...
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Arrival_Joker@reddit
A literal husky or Samoyed chilling in a snowstorm, something they were genetically bred to ensure - omg you are hurting that flufferpupper paw baby! Let him inside!!!!
People who placate their frustrated parental instinct with dogs (essentially four legged toddlers who are permanently retarded) are some of the most unhinged people. Often mentally ill and bad dog owners to boot.
threetoast@reddit
Anyone who has owned one of these dogs knows that they will cheerfully run outside in the dead of winter to bury themselves in the snow. Some of them will even dig themselves a little hole and sleep in it.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Man I saw someone complaining about a goddamn Pyrenees once, almost lost my mind, them dogs won't even come in the damn house
ocajsuirotsap@reddit
"WHAT ? You're peacefully interacting with a wild animal ????? Don't you know that this is litteraly the WORST thing ever ???? Humans should NEVER interact with nature !!!!!"
neb12345@reddit
No idea who this is but why does it look like she has just stole this fox and is running away?
Moobs16@reddit
I've heard that the field of animal rescue contains a lot of harassment. Now, this is unconfirmed, but it sounds like she received harassment from these other animal rescue groups as well.
OG55OC@reddit
Fuck every single person on
demon-storm@reddit
Moderators have too much freedom to create and maimtain hate speech communities. And that's because reddit is too greedy to hire actual moderators.
19v97@reddit
this retard said hate speech
TrumpDesWillens@reddit
Iron Mike said the internet has made it too easy for people to talk shit but not get hit.
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
Some "people" deserve to be beaten.
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
Lmao who reported my comment. Imagine dying on the "let's protect people who bullied some woman trying to do good things into suicide" hill.
LEGAL_SKOOMA@reddit
it's probably just reddit auto detecting violence. happened to me too a few times when talking about video games.
PYROxSYCO@reddit
And flayed? 🥹
N0gai@reddit
To be fair, without this freedom this subreddit probably wouldn't exist either.
cheapdrinks@reddit
How exactly do you let cyberbullying actually affect your life to the point where you have to end it? Like idk I’ve never been cyberbullied but surely you would just like not visit the subs that make fun of you?
Every celebrity/politican/public figure has thousands of people talking shit about them all day every day. If they’re just random internet strangers then surely it’s just background static. How do you let the opinions of people who don’t matter control your life so much?
QFB-procrastinator@reddit
For one, i’m fairly sure it wasn’t just that subreddit, and also her husband posted a video on the saveafox YT channel where he explains that she was very easily influenced by people online, she had borderline personality disorder and was on the spectrum.
necropaw@reddit
At some point this is on her/the people around her for not disconnecting from the internet.
Eventually you have to learn to (at the very least) roll your eyes at people and either move on or step away from the keyboard.
AstariiFilms@reddit
The internet is how they were able to do what they do, and interacting with it brings them more money to continue that.
Wail_Bait@reddit
So just an average woman then?
kojimbob@reddit
TRVTHNVKE
fungomungothethird@reddit
obviously yes but save it for later
alarumba@reddit
I'm a person susceptible to it.
Some people like yourself have an advantage over people like me. Being able to discard the negative opinions of others is a real strength.
For those without that strength, it could be by nature, or it could've been beaten into them.
Have you ever had someone absolutely flip their shit when you've made a minor interaction with them? It wasn't your fault, you were just the straw on the camels back for a bunch of anger/frustration/sadness they had been holding back.
It's death by 1000 cuts.
Maybe_this_time_fr@reddit
Here's a tip. Put down the phone.
alarumba@reddit
That's it. I'm killing myself and it's all your fault.
Alternative-Bear0182@reddit
No you're not, you're going to the floor and doing 50 push ups, NOW!
FlatpackFuture@reddit
I need someone around 24/7 with this kind of encouragement
Jamba-Jew@reddit
I will say that the thought of some snot nosed 9 year old being the one talking shit on the other end makes it easier for me to brush that sort of nonsense off.
alarumba@reddit
That's a good way to think about it.
It's like the online equivalent of imagining the audience is naked.
Pervasivepeach@reddit
It got to a point where her close friends and relatives were hearing about unfounded rumors of her apperant animal abuse, and apperantly some of those close friends believed it and turned on her. Her being really autistic didn’t help either
Ilikemobkeys52@reddit
Saar how do you let cyber bully get to you
okglue@reddit
Real. Just turn off comments or don't look at them. Or at worst, close your account? Truly mindboggling that killing yourself becomes a more attractive option.
NoActionAtThisTime@reddit
It sounds like she had some heavy-duty mental health issues. Reddit assholes pushed her over the edge of what was already a precarious cliff.
threetoast@reddit
The success of saveafox depends quite a lot on being active and visible on the internet. It's not like they have some billionaire funding them and can just shut off all social media.
MountainDoit@reddit
Of course they went private. Fucking pussies.
robert712002@reddit
Wtf why does that exist? They hate my boy Finnegan?
skeletal_pyro@reddit
Just heard about it now. Honestly, ruined my morning.
May she rest in peace.
tihavasap@reddit
Didnt she have an onlyfans page? Or am i thinking of another animal rescue channel starting an onlyfans?
lulululul666@reddit
No she did. Even took nude preg pictures. That’s probably where the bullying came from, not the rescue
tihavasap@reddit
Cant think of anything to say without sounding like a jackass. Shame things turned out the way they did.
lulululul666@reddit
Yeah for sure, just odd how no one is picking that up. People aren’t looking into anything just bandwagoning on
tihavasap@reddit
If someone said she got bullied for having freckles people would believe that. Some just chooses not to think about anything and just react the way other people would approve.
MrDagoth@reddit
Usually the snark subreddits have some kind of twisted reasoning for their behaviour, I wonder what was theirs? Anybody knows?
Everybody just keeps calling them losers etc. (which is correct) but I'm also curious.
These groups always think they're doing the right thing, and the victim deserves it.
Controller_Maniac@reddit
A few of them sold fox fur and they were being prevented from doing so
i_am_schizo-retarded@reddit
I FUCKING KNEW IT.
See my other comment.
Pervasivepeach@reddit
A bunch of rumors and lies with no evidence was all it took.
peppermintaltiod@reddit
They convinced themselves the charity she ran was abusing the foxes they rescued.
charliehumongous@reddit
I'm going to use this every now and then from now on.
ApXv@reddit
Is that Finnegan fox?
XBruceXD@reddit
Yeah, poor guy really enjoyed spending time with her too. Hearing the news of her death hit me hard.
ApXv@reddit
Why the hell did people bully her. One of the few sane people online as far as I can see
Nice-Understanding77@reddit
Yes :(
Call_Me_A_Stoat@reddit
Crazy how they banned fatpeoplehate but hundreds of “snark” subreddits are fine
Hisgenart@reddit
fatpeoplehate was targeting all reddit mods lololol
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
Unironically more freedom of speech on 4chan.
Reptillian97@reddit
Duh?
nikoll-toma@reddit
its the classic tiny hat tribe subversion modus operandi
Abo_minate@reddit
Redditors hate attractive White women that's why. Ever noticed how majority or snark subs are about attractive White women? If they are fat or pavement colored,they get instantly banned.
MartinLutherCreamJr@reddit
rip
Call_Me_A_Stoat@reddit
O7
At the end of the day it used humor to motivate people to live better lives.
CobrinoHS@reddit
As long as you are targeting the mods youre good to go
Knips-o-mat@reddit
Oh no, it's the Finnegan fox lady :(
mightyhealthymagne@reddit
RIP
Kaneida@reddit
Isnt this what 4chan is for? To find out these cyberbullies and go scorched earth on them?
TheEdgykid666@reddit
Cmon 4chan do somethingggg please
Professional-Bug@reddit
The main thing I saw people saying when I looked into why she was being criticized was accusations that she was an animal hoarder and that she took in wild foxes even if they weren’t injured. I have no idea how true that is, and it doesn’t justify a targeted harassment campaign even if it is true.
ShadyClusterCharge@reddit
It's a shame how an actual beaufitful person Gets to commit suicide but most of the troonies and degenerates i make fun of havent done It.
Like why? 😔
vixenator@reddit
It's a crying shame. That video where the fox stole her phone and running away while making those super villain like maniacal laughing noises always brightened my day when I'd run across it. The world is a lesser place with her passing.
Appropriate_Ad4818@reddit
Genuinely what did they have against her? Like even if it's bull it has to be something
Sarcatsticthecat@reddit
Smth smth animal abuse ig? I went digging and found this no idea if it’s bull
Pervasivepeach@reddit
A lot of it stems from a ‘volunteer’ that claimed a bunch of drama like being paid in cat food or how the foxes were in poor conditions. But the post screamed someone who had no idea how these sanctuaries run or understood they were a volunteer not an employee.
A lot spread from that. The idea that she was a glorified pet owner was a big one. She rained 80k to buy a fur farm out and save 500 foxes. Lots of them considered this fueling the industry that abused foxes, missing the point that she shut the factory down the moment she bought it.
Then other random attacks on her character. Drugs was a really big one. Her using volunteer money for drugs etc which all had no proof
TLDR a bunch of furries and TikTok kids got bored and jelous
kojimbob@reddit
Furriet try not to be stupid challenge (impossible)
peppermintaltiod@reddit
Hopefully reddit will to start getting rid of the snark/circle jerk subs now that one of them drove a woman to suicide.
LyrMeThatBifrost@reddit
Are snark subs where all the women of reddit congregate? Would make sense as to why they’re so toxic
kojimbob@reddit
Yes
Jomega6@reddit
As long as they don’t disagree politically, I doubt Reddit will really care
droogvertical@reddit
Reddit has such bizarre policies, they’re cool with some pretty horrible stuff being on their platform but mean words are strictly forbidden.
I can go watch people die in all sorts of horrible ways, engage in a bullying/harassment campaign until someone kills themself, or hop onto a porn sub where there is barely any age verification but if I say r*tard I’ll get banned. So dumb.
jam3sdub@reddit
Unless it's directed at anything right-leaning.
KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit
no fat people hate, but you can bully someone into suicide as long as you meet certain keyword requirements
ger-p4n1c@reddit
Can't have fat people hate, otherwise all your jannies would quit working
vmpafq@reddit
No. I like to harass women in those subs.
proud_traveler@reddit
Unless something threatens the ad money, they couldn't give less of a shit.
They had jailbait subs for years and only got rid because advertiser's started to notice. Reddit the company is entitly profit motivated, and the Reddit admins... well
AllenLombax@reddit
They won't because they're too weak emotionally and physically.
Business_Issue_8818@reddit
If 4chan is agreeing on something yk its truly despicable
strangetines@reddit
From the video her husband made it's pretty obvious she was unstable, if someone's got depression, bpd and autism then this is the likely outcome.
Weird to see this sub of all places being all mawkish about it, this placed changed massively when 4chan went down for a week.
Sux499@reddit
Train flagged furries did this
What a surprise
itsthechizyeah@reddit
Redditors are scum
hazelnuthobo@reddit
The problem with having this kind of belief is that you'll start treating most people like scum, which will add overall more negativity into the world.
Astelianor@reddit
Is not bad as long as you avoid interacting with other people/ just being respectful with someone you don't know personally
angrybluechair@reddit
2nd anon is sadly right. There's a certain level of evil in "normies" that a lot of outcasts and misfits simply don't have or can't have due to not fitting in. I think there's more good people than bad but it's not a tiny minority but enough that you meet them day to day if you interact with people. People who are outcasts from regular society don't have that sort of evil in them most of the time because they're misfits and they can't afford to be nasty to the people who are willing to interact with them and won't be nasty to "fit in" because they never will. Not only is it a case of can't, but won't as well, I've noticed I have distanced myself from most of humanity because of this, once you notice how there's a distinct group of "human" who is just vile, absolutely disgusting in soul, why would I want to interact and "fit in" with those things.
It's why a lot of people who are more online don't actually understand some of the shit like victim blaming rape victims or just otherwise unusually cruel but non physical abusiveness. They fundamentally can't understand why someone would act that way to such a degree they think it's a imagined problem, because they're incapable of grasping how nasty some people can be simply for nastiness sake. The idea of calling a girl a whore for being violently assaulted is inhuman but I've multiple times heard people judge women IN REAL LIFE, IN A PHYSICAL ENVIROMENT WITH THEIR FACE AND VOICE, TO OTHER PEOPLE for stuff such as being spiked or even making disgusting snide comments about their appearance for absolutely zero reason.
Also autism has a strong fascination with "utility" which is why a lot of autists love the idea of a meritocracy and being mean to people for no reason has little to no actual value materiality. Even the more bitter people online explain their bitterness using "evidence" and experiences rather than just being nasty and bitter because they want to be, and a lot of them if they interact with someone who shows them care and even the slightest of warmth, even something as simple as a waitress giving them a coffee they didn't ask for because it's cold outside, can have huge impacts on that bitter toxic rage that's coiled up inside them.
Nice-Understanding77@reddit
>There's a certain level of evil in "normies"
Some "normal "people have a fascination for violence and complete degenerate behaviors. But you can't just be a degenerate for no reason because that isnt seen as socially correct. So they use good motives/things that are seen as worth to fight for to act like degenerates where in that case it isn't seen as negatively as in normal circumstances.
zack_tiger@reddit
Me too man. Man it takes me back and makes me really goddamn sad. The world is really cruel.
Rafeno760@reddit
Finny... I can hear her voice. RIP
Jack-of-Hearts-7@reddit
When bullying shocks even 4chan, you know it's heinous shit.
vmpafq@reddit
White women should only listen to the opinions of men. There's no reason for them to be grouping up with ugly girls online who will get them to act and look black or off themselves.
JensLehmens@reddit
is this what you take from this whole story?
vmpafq@reddit
Yea. This woman was living a good life but let the opinions of jealous women ruin her. They want everyone to live like the Kardashians.
I_AMA_Loser67@reddit
I work in a bakery. Only other guy with a ton of women. Women hate other women. Women claim men hate women but its quite the opposite. Women talk shit about women more than anyone else I've ever seen.
dirty_greendale@reddit
4chan: “why would anyone troll people to the point their spaces are no longer safe for no reason?”
dacreux@reddit
Ethan Klein will not get away with this
Eazy12345678@reddit
what baffles me more is listening to strangers on the internet
i think there was other bigger issues in her life.
the internet trolls was just a small part of the problem
the new is just running with bullying
Contact_Antitype@reddit
There are reasons men didn't let women have this much freedom in their lives. All they do is hate on each other and fail to shave.
BlundetosBackMassage@reddit
The internet is weird, folks. Don't put your public info out there
-Your librarian from the late 90s.
deepstatecuck@reddit
Suicide is for losers. Do not commit suicide, its always wrong.
Probably1915@reddit
Does anyone know what the cyberbullying actually consisted of or was it all just some hogwarts legacy streamer level bullying
Guyyyyy123@reddit
Typical Redditors needing to bully people to elevate themselves
Lamborghini4616@reddit
Pretty sure she had an only fans where she posed with animals she was "saving". Not that makes her suicide any less impactful.
cfskeleton@reddit
The fastest way to fix Earth is to get rid of humans.
Cushions@reddit
The irony of this being posted on 4chan
victor4700@reddit
No notes
SigmaBattalion@reddit
They had a whole sub dedicated to hating her.
KoDa6562@reddit
Jesus, if even 4chan thinks you fucked up you must be the worst person/people on earth. Rip
Parodyphile@reddit
Is this the woman who just died? My friends are sharing stuff about it.
NegativeScythe@reddit
Does 4chan like women now
mattbrvc@reddit
Its less that and more 4chan can't hold a candle to how much women can hate other women.
Bricc_Enjoyer@reddit
Most news articles didn't talk about this being because of bullying but rather because she had every mental illness below the sun. Depression, adhd, bipolarism, etc.
Sarcatsticthecat@reddit
Depression, tism, BPD
Iliekcorm@reddit
Oh no people on the internet are saying mean things, I should an hero and leave my young child motherless
Kingofcheeses@reddit
This place has gone a bit soft lately
Driver_66@reddit
Yeah, maybe there shouldn't be any scumbag shitting online in the first place
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No-Connection6421@reddit
were her haters hunters or people who work in the fur industry? i don't get it
droogvertical@reddit
Thats fucked up, shitposting and breaking balls is fun but harassing a woman until she kills herself is just evil.
MarkedByNyx@reddit
Actual fucking pieces of shit. I hope all they love and hope for turns to dust right in front of their eyes. Who could bully and actively harass someone that was doing good for the world and making a difference for animals that need it? I hope 4chan or someone else find out who these losers are and dox them so that they can face the consequences of their actions.
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Mid nudes
Zuiiiun@reddit
people very likely to act trash when there’s no consequences and the cost of act evil is like zero
Lucaveon19@reddit
I feel so bad whenever i see anything about her
Ihaveagirlfriend1989@reddit
Save A Fox - Mikayla Raines