You can add a sequential manual transmission and AWD as standard from factory to any car with no extra cost. What car would you pick?

[-]

EloeOmoe@reddit

Why would I want a sequential manual in anything?

[-]

strmshdow84@reddit

I think they mean a dct/pdk because no one would want a sequential on a street driven car.

[-]

myCarAccount--@reddit

I don't think that is what they meant at all

[-]

I mean, you could be right. Reading the replies it seems like other do think that, but I personally don't see why anyone would want one that's not going into vehicle that's going to spend a lot of time on track. From comments listed, they don't make much since in a street car, unless you're a glutton for punishment and really like to do trans rebuilds.

[-]

myCarAccount--@reddit

Yeah IDK, seems like a bad idea for sure

[-]

Robots_Never_Die@reddit

I want a sequential for my manual C7. If only it wasn't $30k.

Theres nothing about them that makes it a bad trans for the street.

[-]

strmshdow84@reddit

A sequential is horrible for a street car. Basically no one runs a sequential on the street. It's mostly a track transmission.

[-]

Robots_Never_Die@reddit

What makes it horrible for a street car?

[-]

Jules040400@reddit

Straight-cut gears that aren't helical, and no syncromesh. Loud, clunky, and only useable when absolutely full throttle

Fuck they are cool though

[-]

arcticrobot@reddit

You have to operate it at optimal rev ranges, hard in day to day traffic.

Motorcycles though pretty much all are equipped with sequential

[-]

Larcya@reddit

Motorcycle clutchs are also almost always wet so it's not too much of a problem.

That and the motorcycles with big inline 4's can just sit in first gear in normal traffic so you don't even have to shift ever.

1st gear on Super bikes go into the 60-70 MPH range. and even higher depending on the gearing.

[-]

LeanGroundQueef@reddit

They're not smooth if you're just puttering around.

[-]

strmshdow84@reddit

If we speak about real sequential gearbox, and not dct of some sort. Mainly because they are straight cut gears, meaning noisy gearbox, relative short lifespan, and still needing the use of clutch for common use ... and don't even ask about the price...

[-]

narwhal_breeder@reddit

Quaif offers helical cut boxes now - still have a short lifespan- but a hell of a lot quieter.

[-]

NappyFlickz@reddit (OP)

Nope, fully meant manual clutch, sequentially shifted transmission w/typical synchros.

[-]

assblast420@reddit

Fiat 500

[-]

Carter0108@reddit

I wouldn't. I don't like how AWD drives.

[-]

ThetaGrim@reddit

CTR. Maybe a Z06.

[-]

Op3rat0rr@reddit

I would have gotten the Type R if it was AWD. Got nasty winters in the Midwest

[-]

Acceptable_Gur6193@reddit

I don’t have bad winters (nyc) but I prefer awd to fwd so I got the gr Corolla over the type r it is ridiculously fun in the snow

[-]

Op3rat0rr@reddit

GR Corolla is on my short list for the next car. I'm highly considering a dual clutch in the Golf R this time around though

[-]

GesturalAbstraction@reddit

What were they thinking making the CTR front wheel drive. I mean I get it heritage whatever but come on this is real life…

[-]

The_Strom784@reddit

They should have made the Integra Type S with SH-AWD. That would have been enough to set it apart from the CTR while also providing a good option.

[-]

ICantDecideIt@reddit

You’re spot on.

[-]

djseto@reddit

Have you driven one on track? They are absolute monsters for FWD and can hang with many other cars including RWD and AWD.

[-]

GesturalAbstraction@reddit

Let me lead by disclosing that I have a ton of respect for the Civic Type R—it’s the best front-wheel-drive performance car ever made. But it’s still FWD, which means it’s inherently limited compared to RWD or AWD

You get torque steer, traction issues under heavy acceleration, and limited corner exit grip because the front tires are already maxed out handling direction changes. No matter how good the diff or chassis is, you can’t change the physics. This will always be the case when you put 100% responsibility for turning AND powering the car on the same wheels.

That doesn’t mean it’s not great—it just an unfortunate handicap. And it didn’t need to be this way, Honda has made excellent RWD cars in the past.

Look I know it sells well, and I know a different platform would make it more expensive. I’m just saying… RWD or AWD would make it more worth those 10-20k markups.

[-]

djseto@reddit

Not disagreeing but I think a hot hatch by definition is rooted in FWD, with VW taking it a step further with AWD in the Golf R and before it the R32. I track mine at VIR and when the track isn't straight, I am on the ass of a lot of similar or higher HP cars. With the right brake pads, fluids, and 200TW tires, it's very capable for a FWD car for sure. Before my FL5, I've tracked a Porsche 718 GTS and a 93 RX7. I enjoy that track with FWD as there are things I can do with FWD that I can't do with RWD in certain corners. Now, in a straight line starting from low speeds or top and getting on power and spinning does suck compared to RWD, but I can go close to WOT in most corners and while my wheels will slip a little, the diff helps put down a lot of power to maintain the line I want with minimal corrections. If I did that in RWD in some turns, it's oversteer city.

This is supposedly the last generation of internal combustion engine Type R so the next is going to likely be hybrid and I think that layout could bring AWD as a possibility. I however don't want anything but a manul. Sure modern dual clutches are faster but I find them less engaging in the overall drive experience.

[-]

GesturalAbstraction@reddit

I can appreciate that, noting that it seems today, increasingly, celebrated and performance leading hot hatches are AWD — focus rs, focus rx, golf r, GR Yaris (WRC pick), GRC honorable mention despite known issues, etc.

[-]

djseto@reddit

and the irony is that none of them has beaten a Type R in any head-to-head competition I've seen on a road course. I think Honda is taking a less is more approach. The new Prelude is goign to be AWD so maybe that will be a preview of a AWD platform...

[-]

GesturalAbstraction@reddit

I gotta give you that one

[-]

Raenald@reddit

On paper yes, but once you drive one you forget about all that stuff

[-]

BTTWchungus@reddit

The heritage argument became bullshit after they turbocharged the Type R and lost the n/a VTEC spirit

[-]

WendysChiliAndPepsi@reddit

Honda died after they lost the high revving NA motors.

[-]

BTTWchungus@reddit

Between turbocharging and McPherson's struts, they've been dead for a while to me.

[-]

djseto@reddit

The magic they made in the front, even for something that is based on McPherson but has that dual axis is very impressive. Between that and the front diff I get next to no torque steer on track.

[-]

BTTWchungus@reddit

The Type R suspension would've been nice to have standard on all their cars

[-]

the4ner@reddit

The upcoming prelude is supposed to have it

[-]

djseto@reddit

Sure, but what makes the Type R special is how well it handles.

[-]

Nerd-Vol@reddit

Seems to be selling well as is.

[-]

djseto@reddit

And holding value well. Carvana offered me $44,600 for my FL5 with 10k miles. I paid 45,800 1.5 years ago. Good luck finding any other car in that price and performance range that can hold value like that. And no, I didn’t sell. Had no intention. Just wanted to see what the market said it’s worth for fun.

[-]

the4ner@reddit

I can still get 39k for my '21 FA5. Has me considering a trade to an m3 or ct4-v

[-]

Bassracerx@reddit

If they made the type r awd it would increase the price of every other civic because the partitioned space for the awd bits would have to be envery civic chasis.

[-]

withsexyresults@reddit

To keep it light spacious and cheap

[-]

BlazingFury009@reddit

2.0t accord, preferably the 2020 touring trim

Iirc it only comes in manual with the sport trim so having sequential on the touring would be really nice and also having awd would be a nice upgrade to the fwd, since Honda seems to usually reserve awd for Acura

[-]

WillSuckDick4Coffee@reddit

Fiesta ST

[-]

Ti290@reddit

Came here to say this. I loved my Fiesta ST, and it was so much fun once I modded it to over 300hp, but it would have been so much better if it could have maintained traction below 60mph with awd.

[-]

thisisjustascreename@reddit

Think the Focus ST would benefit more.

[-]

Big-Soup74@reddit

Isn’t that just the focus rs

[-]

WillSuckDick4Coffee@reddit

With a whole lot less power yup. That's why I went for the Fiesta.

[-]

JameswithaJ@reddit

They really screwed up the Focus ST. Great car, but there was so much they screwed up on.

Fiestas like to party.

[-]

CyberneticMidnight@reddit

M240i / MK5 Supra CTSV Newish Nissan Z

[-]

HankSteakfist@reddit

The last model M240i did come with a manual and it also had the option for AWD on the XDrive models, but they never made a manual AWD version.

Could have essentially had a modern Skyline GTR if they did.

[-]

CyberneticMidnight@reddit

Yeah I'm more of a BMW guy and the xdrive is pretty dope esp because some tuning options allow you to turn it off/on. The sequential would be awesome tho. I know the infiniti that the Nissan shares engines with can also have awd

[-]

mr_j_12@reddit

Throw a "turbo lamik" tcu at it and you have a sequential. Can add a "clutch" too if you really wanted.

[-]

xdr01@reddit

Kia Rio for sleeper lolz

[-]

mr_j_12@reddit

One of the worst cars ive ever driven 🤣👍

[-]

MattTheMechan1c@reddit

Mini Cooper S

[-]

the901@reddit

All the S needs is an LSD. AWD would be great for the GP3.

[-]

HillarysFloppyChode@reddit

AWD and a B58?

[-]

SpaceBoJangles@reddit

God that would be fun.

[-]

Przedrzag@reddit

A Mustang GT500 or a Charger Hellcat would rip with AWD and an auto-manual

[-]

BinaryStrigoi@reddit

SLR. It will change the ethos of the car but I think it will be an upgrade from the 5 speed slushbox. It's like a front engine Murci with supercharged V8 that's more comfortable.

[-]

2for1garlicknots@reddit

That would be amazing! I felt like that car had the potential to be so much better than it turned out.

[-]

einTier@reddit

Mercedes thought they were building a better SL, McLaren thought they were building a hypercar. The more time you spend with one, the more confused the whole design language is.

For instance, a lot of the car is carbon fiber, but you wouldn’t know because Mercedes demanded all of it be painted. There’s a little bit of carbon fiber you can see on the shells of the seats (offered in custom fit sizes!) but that’s about it.

[-]

Przedrzag@reddit

Imo the SLR design language turned out great in the end. The supercharged V8 and long bonnet kind of make it like a Dodge Viper in an Armani suit (and coincidentally both cars were made by the same company for a while).

If the SLR was to be a true hypercar, I would’ve liked it with a turbo M120 like the Chrysler ME-412 was to have.

[-]

BRAD3BAT3SJR@reddit

Ford Crown Victoria

[-]

Religion_Of_Speed@reddit

Other than the obvious answer of my car I think a late 90s Civic would be amazing with sequential/AWD.

[-]

tmanky@reddit

07 Monte Carlo SS would be perfect for this. Would be the actual racecar it looks like.

[-]

IS-2-OP@reddit

I hated it when I found out they’re FWD

[-]

tmanky@reddit

I remember when I was looking for a car to get out of high school. I couldn't believe they were fwd so I called my baseball coach who worked at Chevy dealership.

[-]

photonynikon@reddit

and...?

[-]

Level-Maize6321@reddit

he delivered the unfortunate news that they are indeed FWD.

[-]

phxbimmer@reddit

I feel like that would just ruin a car for me… I’d take a normal H-pattern manual + RWD over anything else.

[-]

photonynikon@reddit

AWD Transi...OH WAIT>>>I GOT ONE!

[-]

petervidani@reddit

Rolls Royce Phantom

[-]

moonRekt@reddit

Well TBH if I’m getting a CTR/ITS it’s for the manual, but if you give it AWD it would have a chance to be pretty fast with a sequential. The crappy CVTs are are what holds me back from buying a JDM family hauler. So I think I’d have to go with a Nissan Quest. I think they have awful driver crash test ratings you crash you die but it looks so perfectly JDM lol

[-]

LewisTheLlamma@reddit

1994 Toyota Camry

[-]

Dyep1@reddit

Murcielago

[-]

AFB27@reddit

Viper GTS. Newest gen.

[-]

campbellsimpson@reddit

Yep, this. A giant N/A engine and simplicity was what I was scrolling to find. Give that thing traction and quick shifts and it will decimate everyone at race week.

Probably also needs a fuel cell...

[-]

Plus-Commission6881@reddit

Gt3

[-]

8N-QTTRO@reddit

Lotus Exige. I'd like to see how the hell they pull off sending power the front wheels (I can only imagine it would be done with an entirely separate electric motor up front), and it would be a track monster if done right.

[-]

Intrepid_Elk_4351@reddit

Sequential manual is an oxymoron

[-]

gargoyle30@reddit

3rd gen Honda prelude with 4ws

[-]

Halofieldfan@reddit

Kona N, manual + AWD is exactly the options it’s missing. It’d have its place defined in the N lineup.

[-]

ImReallyFuckingHigh@reddit

Toyota Avalon

[-]

jasonmoyer@reddit

WRX

[-]

Tough_Steak@reddit

Altima.

I want to be a real menace to society.

[-]

Sorry_Researcher_339@reddit

Srt4 caliber awd

[-]

Sea_Librarian460@reddit

Acura TSX

[-]

slumzofshaolin75@reddit

S15

[-]

amadnesstothemethod@reddit

Reliant Robin. Transfer power from the wheels that slip to the wheels that tip.

[-]

BigDiesel07@reddit

Ford Transit Connect.. basically swap me in the Focus RS power train and a great DCT

[-]

ExoticAcanthaceae426@reddit

Absolutely none. If I could option a manual shift and rear drive!!!!!! Then the list is LONG

[-]

elevatedtoast@reddit

Lmao Buick park Avenue, could be fun

[-]

aw_goatley@reddit

Gr86/brz

[-]

Delanorix@reddit

Wasn't the Eclipse GSX an AWD standard car?

[-]

2Drogdar2Furious@reddit

Miata. Add a turbo, some phat tires, and go dunk on people at the track...

[-]

bentnotbroken96@reddit

They already do that.

[-]

2Drogdar2Furious@reddit

Yea, with AWD and. Sequential it would be an absolute beast.

My NA surprises people but its outclassed by the big boys...

[-]

OutrunAuto@reddit

Second generation Scion tC (2011-2016). They're fun and reliable cars that were lacking that extra something to make them stand out. I'm biased since I've owned one for 12ish years and have often dreamed of a GR Corolla drive train swap. I feel like AWD would have given the car more staying power and increased aftermarket support.

[-]

bikedork5000@reddit

Integra Type S

[-]

ZoomZoomDiva@reddit

The sequential part is a negative...

[-]

Drenlin@reddit

Dodge SRT-4 would have been an absolute blast with an AWD/manual option.

[-]

Bassracerx@reddit

You dont typically see well optioned avengers because the charger was not that much more money.

[-]

Drenlin@reddit

Indeed so. The 200 was also not much more expensive and was a much better looking car.

[-]

SpaceBoJangles@reddit

Honda Odyssey.

That thing would rip

[-]

justcuckmyshitupfam2@reddit

Space Shuttle

[-]

RandomflyerOTR@reddit

If I could pass on the sequential, I'd absolutely stick AWD onto a 2003 Toyota Corolla. Shit would be indestructible in a Canadian Winter

[-]

Bassracerx@reddit

Fiat 500 abarth.

[-]

Good_Housekeeping@reddit

I would do it for the Dodge Dart. Add in the 5.7L hemi too.

[-]

420_E-SportsMasta@reddit

Buick Park Ave

[-]

Zbot21@reddit

Gimme the sequential in a Miata but you can keep the AWD kit and put it on my Mini Cooper

[-]

Lawineer@reddit

Viper

[-]

iohh@reddit

The transmission change could improve a lot of cars, a few that come to mind:

Lexus LFA Mercedes CLK Black Series Aston Martin One-77

The AWD could improve fewer cars since RWD is arguably more fun, but one comes to mind:

Honda Civic Type R

[-]

UsedState7381@reddit

1) Mitsubishi Eclipse starting from the 3rd gen, as it should have been.

2) Honda Civic all gens starting from the 4th.

3) Toyota Celica 7th generation.

[-]

kimbabs@reddit

Integra Type S/CTR or the Accord with the 2.0T (why not bring it back in this fantasy world).

The Elantra N also definitely could benefit from putting down power to other wheels. That wheel hop looks insane from a dig.

[-]

wave_action@reddit

Crown Signia

[-]

carsonwade@reddit

Civic Type R seems like an obvious choice

[-]

TopRamanNoodl3s@reddit

elantra n

[-]

ZombiePope@reddit

First gen viper. I want to see the type of problems a viper can cause with AWD.

[-]

cdixon34@reddit

FD RX7

[-]

withsexyresults@reddit

Any of the performance lexus, isf rcf is500

[-]

nevergettingsmall@reddit

Mercury Grand Marquis

[-]

benmillerdata@reddit

Ford Maverick. It uses the same engine as the focus rs. Easy upgrades to 300 hp. Add some better tires and you have an amazing street truck

[-]

BTTWchungus@reddit

Focus RS had a 2.3 engine, not 2.0

[-]

turb0_encapsulator@reddit

Smart Fourtwo

[-]

SeriousMongoose2290@reddit

Toyota Sienna

[-]

Gilbert0686@reddit

You can already get the sienna in AWD, we are so close

[-]

piddydb@reddit

Your pfp is perfect for this comment

[-]

StelioKontossidekick@reddit

Turbo'd Previa AWD with 5spd.

[-]

TheGuyDoug@reddit

https://youtu.be/ivRj0wa_opc?si=Gx7SGW7XoHW0jO2q

[-]

timbotheny26@reddit

Subaru Impreza and Crosstrek already have the AWD, but I'd love it if you could still get them in manual, especially the RS (Impreza) and Wilderness (Crosstrek). A Mazda 3 hatch with AWD, manual transmission, and a turbo would be a lot of fun too.

[-]

BlackCatFurry@reddit

I would stay with an automatic. I learned on manual and drove one for two years and tbh i do not see the appeal to have less focus on the road because you have to be micromanaging the rpms with every acceleration and braking.

[-]

Justin_inc@reddit

Dodge Viper

Miata

Cadillac CT5-BW

[-]

Jaymez82@reddit

Deuce and a half.

[-]

El_Pozzinator@reddit

2013-14 Z/28, any gen Viper, C7 ZR1, any Yenko Super Coupe. Yeah I’m biased toward Murica…

[-]

Robots_Never_Die@reddit

You can get a sequential for a C7. Only runs you $30k but if you have ZR1 money...

[-]

AudiB9S4@reddit

Why sequential manual?

[-]

Robots_Never_Die@reddit

Instant shifts with clutchless shifting. Light weight and less parasitic loss compared to an auto. Never miss a shift.

A sequential is peak manual transmission.

[-]

idiot_proof@reddit

Because motorcycle engine goes brrrr…

[-]

clownpirate@reddit

Toyota RAV4

[-]

PaintProtectionDFW@reddit

c8 corvette. next question

[-]

West_Independent2551@reddit

FL5 CTR

Toyota Aristo Turbo

Ford Crown Victoria

[-]

MaximumDerpification@reddit

I'd rather RWD and a manual instead of AWD and a sequential

[-]

FireflyOD@reddit

Neon SRT4

[-]

I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_AMA@reddit

As a fellow SRT4 owner, I fully agree. The thing was already a force to be reconned with. AWD and it would have really been insane.

[-]

Fit_Equivalent3610@reddit

In no particular order:

AW11 MR2 Supercharged = Basically a 222D for the street

2nd generation CTS-V wagon = ideal Canadian daily driver

Post-facelift 4th generation Eclipse = still an Eclipse, but it is secretly a Galant VR4

[-]

Erdnalexa@reddit

Hellcat (all versions) Challenger / Charger?

[-]

rudbri93@reddit

IH Scout Diesel

[-]

AlfaZagato@reddit

Person of culture, here

[-]

rudbri93@reddit

my parents had a couple scouts back when I was real young, like 4 or 5. And they rotted into the yard for a few years so they were some of the first cars i crawled all over.

[-]

Grim99CV@reddit

My EG.

[-]

AlfaZagato@reddit

VW Type 1 Beetle

[-]

EnvChem89@reddit

Tesla Model S .. Really any Tesla just so I can see how they add this magical transmission..

[-]

i-wear-extra-medium@reddit

Dodge viper or a big turbo Subaru

[-]

Go4broke360@reddit

Grand Prix gtp.

[-]

stoned-autistic-dude@reddit

Honda Odyssey. Shit would be so lit and I don’t even have kids.

[-]

Odd_Fox5573@reddit

Good thing you can still do this on a Mazda3

[-]

rynil2000@reddit

2009 Toyota Yaris

[-]

HankSteakfist@reddit

Audi RS3

Would be such a handful with a manual.

[-]

Rotaryfan@reddit

MX-5. The manual transmission that it currently comes with is the weakest part of the car (from a reliability standpoint. It's extremely fun and engaging to use as it is). The MX-5 cup cars currently use a Sequential manual. Make it a factory option so that us enthusiasts who want to boost the motor and have fun on and off the track can have stop worrying over blown transmissions.

While we're at it, put one in the new Z06. That can would be a fucking blast with a sequential manual.

[-]

3.) Mercedes-Benz S 65 AMG

4.) Chrysler 300

5.) BMW M5/M7/M8

6.) Cadillac STS V

7.) Lincoln LS

8.) Mercury Grand Marquis

9.) Ford Crown Victoria

10.) Mercury Marauder

[-]

4th Gen Mazda3 Hatchback
2nd Gen Acura RDX V6
5th Gen Toyota Prius

[-]