Ford Sued Over ‘Band-Aid’ Fix That Fails To Solve Alleged Defective Engines

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dreakon@reddit

Honestly doesn't surprise me. We had a 2012 Focus and the transmission was clearly fucked, but the dealership just insisted nothing was wrong. Ford did everything they could to cover that shit up until it went to court. It's probably cheaper to pay the fines than it is to come up with legitimate fixes.

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xt1nct@reddit

I have 2012 at 144k miles. lol. That thing just won’t shut the bed. I did have clutch pack replaced some years ago.

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6786_007@reddit

I remember helping someone with their Ford Focus that also had transmission issues. Ford told them they couldn't do anything, we fought with them but they refused to fix it under warranty. Crazy.

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Classic-Perspective5@reddit

I have 2016 focus with 240 thousand kilometres and I am amazed it’s still shifting lol ✊🏻 🪵

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Johns-schlong@reddit

You must be canadian

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caterham09@reddit

Iirc there was a class action lawsuit over those powershift transmissions. Complete garbage

There's a reason you see so many focus/fiesta St still on the road and so few of the regular ones. All the ST models came with a manual

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Paladine_PSoT@reddit

My 2017 escape had its engine replaced under warranty for this very issue in 2020. They never said it was widespread.

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Mason_Caorunn@reddit

Wet belt !!!! - ignore all the Ford service plans and change it at half or less the suggested mileage or you too will be buying multiple engines!

Also buy the longest warranties you can for this failure - because it will fail!

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Crewstage8387@reddit

The thought of having an internal water pump is the most asinine thing I have ever heard of

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caterham09@reddit

It's the biggest killer of the 3.5L v6s as well. Shits out at about 120-150k miles, requiring a $4000 service or a lot of time and effort, and by that time the cars are just worth so little it's almost not worth doing the repair.

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m3t1t1@reddit

I have a cx9 with the same motor. Not looking forward to replacing the water pump.

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Mr__Snek@reddit

which sucks, because the 3.5 (especially the NA) is an awesome motor apart from that one issue. and its a BIG issue.

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caterham09@reddit

Yup. My wife's explorer just started leaking. I bought all the parts but fuck it's going to be an ordeal

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ZombiePope@reddit

Seriously. What the fuck is that idea

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Snazzy21@reddit

I don't see why there isn't a suit about the wet belt since Ford made outrageous claims about longevity and they all inevitably fail and clog up the pickup with disintegrated belt. I think that is even worse because it happens no matter what.

The coolant between the passages is a bad design, but it's hardly unique (both for how bad it is, and the design). I don't see anyone suing Jeep for the plastic oil cooler despite that also being an "not if but when" kind of failure. Nobody sued GM for making the 3800 coolant elbows out of plastic.

I'd certainly get upset if I owned that engine, Ford deserves this for making lazy engineering short cuts.

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Dresari23@reddit

I'm surprised it took this long. When I had a fusion and was active on the subreddit they were always saying to stay away from the 1.5 engines, as well as the later 2.0 engines (it still happens on the earlier 2.0s, but not as often). Seemed like every couple of days some poor sap would make a thread asking about why they were suddenly losing coolant.

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natesully33@reddit

Ah, interesting, it's an open deck block design with little cooling slits between the cylinders that make the walls thin. The 2020+ version of this ecoboost 2.0 block has coolant holes instead and doesn't have problems.

I wonder why other boosted engines are/were fine without coolant between the cylinders?

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Nitrothacat@reddit

So they made a 4 cylinder Northstar?