Wow. I know I shouldn't be shocked but she's fully sold out
Posted by CleverNombre@reddit | tulsi | View on Reddit | 102 comments
Tulsi's testimony contridicted Trump's war claims but after taking Trump's heat for a week, folded last night and pulled a Colin Powell. Changing her tune from her March testimony and now claiming Iran is weeks away from a nuke. Shameless.
Random-Cpl@reddit
This sub’s journey from insurgent liberals to fascist shills has been hilarious to watch
andyroid92@reddit
Iran has been "weeks or months" away from nuclear capabilities forever
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLA0tzPKIoI/?igsh=YmdvM2tiNTl2cjIz
Moonbeam_86@reddit
You can thank the Mossad for the delay.
jtfff@reddit
And you can thank Trump for the acceleration. We wouldn’t be in this fabricated situation if he didn’t foolishly pull out of JCPOA in 2018.
Moonbeam_86@reddit
Well, it’s not that simple. Trump “pulling out” did not end the deal. It still stood with China, France, Germany, Russia and the United Kingdom.
The “deal,” however, was being ignored by Iran. You could blame that on whoever you want, I suppose.
jtfff@reddit
The deal was only ignored by Iran once the US pulled out and reinstated sanctions. The primary reason why Iran initially took to deal was to relieve US sanctions, and guess what? The deal worked. The IAEA regularly inspected nuclear facilities and kept track of Iran’s nuclear stockpile making sure it was compliant.
In 2013, prior to the deal, Iran had 11,000 kgs of 3.5% enriched Uranium and 3,500 kgs of 20% enriched uranium. In 2018, when Trump pulled out of the deal, they only had 300 kgs of 3.5% enriched uranium. Even if further enriched, that is nowhere near enough to produce even one nuclear warhead.
Moonbeam_86@reddit
True. But then Biden reinstated the deal.
Yet Iran's worst violations of the deal came post-Biden.
So again, it's not a clear line from one thing to another, but yes, it's logical to assume the Trump administration's actions contributed to the deal's breakdown.
jtfff@reddit
Pretty sure they didn’t reinstate the plan. Negotiations were in action but ultimately fell through.
CryptographerEasy149@reddit
Trump just posted obliterated their nuclear program but yeah what you claim
Subvertor@reddit
They moved it dude he didn't do anything they knew he was coming to telegraphed it was so obvious they moved it keep up find some other news sources
Aeromechanic42@reddit
So they say we have sniffers on planes dude that shit is easily located.
jtfff@reddit
That’s the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard. Iran has been a few months away from nuclear weapons for the last 20 years, but their nuclear program wasn’t ever for weapons. In fact, there’s been a fatwa in place legally forbidding nuclear weapons for the last 30 years.
Some sites were left completely unaffected in these attacks, and if Iran did finally decide to start developing nuclear weapons, it would be because of Trump’s decisions. And even worse than developing their own nuclear weapons, Russia is prepared to give them some of their own.
TomatilloUpbeat8812@reddit
😂🤣😂
Word_to_Bigbird@reddit
According to whom, exactly?
Word_to_Bigbird@reddit
By setting it back months?
Subvertor@reddit
I just said as much you are exactly correct
Subvertor@reddit
The Obama treaty was working Trump ripped it up you know self-manifesting nonsense
OverpricedBagel@reddit
That’s missing the context of a myriad of setbacks iran faced
andyroid92@reddit
Lol
OverpricedBagel@reddit
The IAEA has the full timeline published including accelerations and setbacks of iranian uranium enrichment. Whenever you’re done using instagram as a source for news.
Fit_Error7801@reddit
Bush 2.0
Ok_Entertainment_213@reddit
Anyone fooled by this flip flopping cult member and Russian asset needs to understand that they are lacking critical thinking skills.
tipper420@reddit
Smash that upvote if you're more concerned about Isreal having nukes
TomatilloUpbeat8812@reddit
Israel has nukes AND blackmail. Neither of which would our leaders like to have fall into the wrong hands. 😬 They've basically got us by the cajones and we have to do their bidding.
aclays@reddit
I feel conflicted...
palmytree@reddit
she sold out quite some time ago.
-signed, another disappointed former Tulsi supporter.
CryptographerEasy149@reddit
Aka some Bernie bro who never supported Tulsi
palmytree@reddit
i’ve probably supported tulsi for longer than you’ve been able to vote
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
Hear, hear. I’m resigned to the fact that I was duped from the start. I thought she had principles, but alas, I was wrong. Her now infamous Russian-aligned “apocalypse” video is now just another in a long line of shamelessness
SuitsOverSwag@reddit
Going to get downvoted for this, but truth is truth:
Every neocon needs a Colin Powell to dupe the non-neocons into regime change war.
Welcome aboard, Tulsi Powell.
JackFig12@reddit
Pretty spot on. Except he had bipartisan credibility, she destroyed that a long time ago.
LessStore661@reddit
Trump just wants to get back to business and unfortunately and predictably so does the military industrial complex that's why we're having this conflict
RevolutionaryEnd740@reddit
Love Ya, Tulsi,, You and Kristi, keep doing your Job that your paid to do,, unlike your predecessors,,,
Ted_chessman@reddit
Trump is an imbecile. His followers are bigger imbeciles
pwrmic@reddit
It seems that no matter how principled a politician seems, they are no match for Israel’s lobby. The paradoxical thing is that this will ultimately usher in an antisemitic political party. I fear for my Jewish friends.
Lopsided-Fuel6133@reddit
Tulsi is a terrible human being. From once one of her biggest fans.
Calm_Ad_7744@reddit
She will suck anything to keep her job.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
She said she would resign if the US attacked Iran. So, is she the liar we all know her to be?
Kale4All@reddit
When did she say that?
plsobeytrafficlights@reddit
she said what she was told to say for the paycheck
thetennisgod@reddit
You either get in line w/Trump or get out of the way. Especially on a topic like this. Her original testimony was still very helpful and had a positive affect. The only time ppl actually can fully keep their principles are if they're unemployed.
DaraParsavand@reddit
Agreed. So resign like Ann Wright did and make a huge stink. Anything less and I know all that stuff against regime change wars was a bunch of BS. I gave up on Tulsi in 2020. But even I didn’t think she’d be this pathetic.
SuitsOverSwag@reddit
I disagree with this. Her presence actually adds undeserved legitimacy to what Trump is trying to do here, just like how Colin Powell added it to George Bush.
If we are going to get neocon hackery, make Trump have to appoint a neocon so we can avoid subterfuge.
Tulsi should have resigned, gotten out of the way, and been a whistleblower. Instead, she full-on sold out.
thetennisgod@reddit
She's spent her whole adult life arguing against regime change wars in the middle east. I highly doubt she's a sellout b/c of that and she's still far from being a favorite of those she'd sell out to. She just has more influence being in the room w/Trump rather than on the outside. All the news networks undermine Tulsi regularly and even Fox would just give her one interview and afterwards she's irrelevant. She'd be a story for a day maybe 2. A hero to outsiders but that's not worth much right now. She needs to be in the room the next few weeks as it really is all up to Trump at this point.
Tiny_Definition6342@reddit
The only thing shameless here is that you're too dedicated to supporting ignorance to comprehend that she's right.
plsobeytrafficlights@reddit
i listened to that lying sac. Once upon a time, i used to really respect her.
caveman512@reddit
Because she had the balls to say some real shit, and when that didn’t work she sold out and pivoted to what does work. It’s pretty awful
plsobeytrafficlights@reddit
and honestly, i think she went off her meds first, because she is just filled with poor calls. she went totally off the rails over the years.
IVcrushonYou@reddit
Thank you for clarifying, Tulsi. Unfortunately some people are so consumed by TDS that your words are falling on deaf ears.
Grundelwald@reddit
Dude, shut up about "TDS", that has nothing to do with it.. Regime changing Iran has been pressed by Netanyahu and the neocons for decades, and a large swath of us have always been opposed to that, regardless of Trump. Just because he's the fool who finally started the war doesn't make this personally against him when we oppose the move
plsobeytrafficlights@reddit
you didnt even pay attention to the post.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
Please quote where this new clarification existed in her March testimony. I just re-watched the full thing. I'll give you the deed to my house if you find the spot in her March testimony where Tulsi said Iran is capable of acquiring a nuclear weapon within "weeks or months."
Smiles4YouRawrX3@reddit
This sub is now an r/politics leftist shithole rip
riftwave77@reddit
If only someone had come to this subreddit to tell you guys that Gabbard was a fraud.
fredsherbert@reddit
i remember proudly wearing my tulsi 2020 shirt with pride on local news in portland oregon 5 years ago. now i hope a tweaker is wiping their butt with that shirt
jstohler@reddit
Nah. You have to first have principles in order to sell out.
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
Nope. There is a not so subtle difference between what she said and what the press is inferring.
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
Iran is not building a weapon now, but its enrichment activities pose a potential threat, as it could produce a nuclear weapon "within weeks to months" if it decides to do so.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
I just went back and re-watched her whole 15 minute testimony from March. You actually had me second guess my memory for a second but no, she never once mentioned Iran being "weeks or months" away from acquiring a nuclear bomb. You put that in quotes and you lied. She never utters that phrase in her entire testimony. Why are you so quote to run defense for liars and war mongers? Now I want to check your comment history cause youre sus af lol
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
You put that in quotes and you lied.
??
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
She never once made any reference to weeks and months dude. Never. Why are you quoting that?
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
Sorry to confuse you with my use of quotes. I did not, and didnt mean to attribute that quote to tulsi. I was referring to the overall issue of what Iran's readiness to be a nuclear power is.
I dont think there is much question that their previous rocket weapon work has stopped in 2003.
I also don't think there is much question that their enrichment program has advanced to a point that if they restarted their weapon production that they would be a nuclear power.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
Hey maybe it was a misunderstanding. You seem like a decent person. But if you re-watch her March testimony, she's clearly the one lying and misrepresenting her testimony in this tweet from yesterday, not the media. I just watched it again from a straight feed from Congress without any media filter and it seems unambiguous to me what she said.
I give her credit that on her Tweet she includes the only portion of her whole 15 minute Senate testimony that references Iran which is like 1:48. What's brazen to me is she makes a statement now parroting Trump's claims about Iran being weeks or months from a nuke in the Tweet but adds the clip of the Iran portion of her March testimony which completely contradicts her current claim.
If I'm being absolutely fair and paraphrase what she said about Iran it was: Iran has strong missile capabilities (obviously), Iran and its Supreme Leader haven't sought a nuclear weapon. But Iran does have stocks of enriched uranium.
Seems to me that it paints a picture of Iran not being an immediate dire threat to America or Israel.
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
I dont really care about tulsi's reputation. I voted for her when she ran in the primary and I liked the chance of her cleaning up intelligence problems as dni.
I am anti-US press. I am suspect of them in every story.
All that said, if we know that Iran was further in uranium enrichment than they should be under agreements laid down in the npa (which they have benefitted from having signed the npa), we shouldn't be laid back about the threat just because their method of delivering that uranium in a bomb or a missile hasn't been perceptivly advanced.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
So why didn't we go after Iran in March? See how the sequence of events don't add up? It wasn't until Bibi got Trump in line with his dire claims--the same ones hes been making for 30 years, thenTrump attacked Tusli for contradicting those claims that she basically went back and parroted the new Israeli line saying she's practically said this all along.
I hear you on the press having an agenda. Fortunately we can watch Congress with a direct feed and no spin added.
So if you truly believe Iran can throw together a nuke in a matter of weeks, do you believe that makes them more of a threat with a nuke than North Korea. And if so, what do you propose we do about it?
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
Yes. I watched cspan a lot. Not much better than the press. Worse in a lot of cases.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
The direct feed? How? Its just a video feed with no commentary?
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
I'm saying that it's not like political rhetoric is much better than media bias.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
Sure but an educated person should be able to think critically and analyze what people are actually saying between the lines.
I mean if listening directly to our leaders themselves is not much better than the filter of the press, I don't know how you propose a populace get properly informed.
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
Yes. I just never use the congress or newspaper as primary sources to describe what's going on in our world.
The older I get the more I have seen instances of what congress people and newspaper spout the exact opposite of what reality is.
This tulsi issue is certainly one of them.
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
I think Iran is more of a threat to our allies especially Israel, with nuke ready uranium, than NKo is to us or any allies.
I dont know. I guess just wait and see if Iran stands down.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
If Iran stands down do we just trust it that it has no weapons grade uranium or do we do the whole inspection thing again? They passed that before as well. Seems to me Trump and Netanyahu are seeking regime change
American_Streamer@reddit
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2025/06/18/inside-the-spy-dossier-that-led-israel-to-war
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
That's paywalled, my friend. Can you paraphrase it?
stone122112@reddit
non-paywall link to article -> https://archive.ph/ruXPj
Alternative-Duty4774@reddit
Did she say during her Senate testimony that Iran was within weeks of producing a nuclear weapon?
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
"Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."
Alternative-Duty4774@reddit
That wasn't my question.
KyleButtersy2k@reddit
"Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons."
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
No...at least not that I recall. I'll go back and watch. She definitely didn't say that in this video clip she posted. I get the feeling this commenter is trying to disingenuously run cover for her
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
Wait are you saying Tulsi has been consistent and the press and my ears heard her wrong?
Where did she previously say this in her March testimony? The actual quote
IVcrushonYou@reddit
This.
BoniceMarquiFace@reddit
Nothing she's saying is wrong or inconsistent
Iran has the capability to build a weapon pretty quickly. They choose not to, because of a 2003 decision by the supreme leader. Tulsi cited that in her prior analysis
If the Supreme leader got killed and they had a junta take over, they could be nuclear very quickly
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
So you're saying Israel's actions like attacking Iran or killing its Supreme Leader could cause Iran to seek a nuke they otherwise wouldn't have sought?
stone122112@reddit
Finally a decent argument.
BoniceMarquiFace@reddit
Correct.
If you look at Tulsis prior statement she specifically talks about him and the program suspension in 2003.
It is possible for a country with civilian nuclear power to transition to nuclear weapons very quickly. That is how Israel itself got weapons, and why Israel continues to lie with "ambiguity".
therin_88@reddit
Is it difficult to imagine that, before taking office as DNI, she may not have had the fullest or most recent information on this topic, and now that she has access to everything the CIA has to offer, things have changed?
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I'm sure you give that benefit of the doubt to Dick Cheney, George W Bush 20 years ago or even just Democrats today. FOHHHHH.
therin_88@reddit
Hey Democrat, Tulsi hasn't been in your camp since 2022. Get out.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
So you admit you like a person with no principles simply because she supports your team, Republican?
mpdmax82@reddit
do you have evidence she took money or anything else in exchange for illicit behavior?
she didnt "sell out" shes doing her job.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
Seriously dude. Really? Fucking really? She sold out her principles starting in 2021 when she made the 180⁰ flip from a progressive Berniecrat. The Vice Chairman of the Democratic Party, to a MAGA Republican. She sold out for a job post politics and did it so well she ended back up in politics for the opposite team.
I mean, how many people do you know genuinely flip their entire belief system in a year after being deeply entrenched in that belief by system being an elected member and president of a club for decades? 🙄
mpdmax82@reddit
omg thats craaaayyyy
recipts? do you have any documentation that she is engaging in political decision making FOR A JOB?
you dont your schizoposting.
did she take money or favors for professional action?
no, so it doesnt matter.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
This fucking guy. You're a real stickler for just the facts, huh? Don't make me go through your comment history and pull receipts of you shitting on other people based solely on your biased opinion, hypocrite.
Material-Style4019@reddit
Smoke and mirrors.
This is DC
This is intelligence work.
Tulsi is our best bet for female president.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
What's smoke and mirrors? That reads like excuse making for someone you like rather than on the merits. Watching MAGA and some "anti-war" folks go full neo-con because Trump said Iran bad is wild lol but not entirely surprising.
Bro, on her best day, Tulsi will never be president.
Material-Style4019@reddit
One of the main tests for intelligence industry professionals is of their ambiguity tolerance.
Tulsi is in the belly of the beast cut her some slack and have faith.
Dems could have run her and she would have won
They chose Kamala.
They failed.
Just have faith... Look at her she ticks every box for female stewardship of this country.
Hindu surfer yogi veteran monogamous athlete charismatic.
Come on!
No other lady I know of in DC can compete with that!
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
She ran in the Dem primary and got like 3% of the vote or maybe even less. Was it 1%?
I agree Kamala was a terrible candidate but by 2024 Tusli had already did the turncoat MAGA spin move so no Dem would touch her. That's the other thing, Tulsi literally went from a Berniecrat to a MAGA Republican in 2 years. How can you trust someone like that? Still I held out the faith on her anti-war credentials even though I knew she was super inconsistent--especially on Israel. But this does it man. She was so strong on being against a war with Iran during Trump's first term when the intel wasn't much different--publicly. Seems pretty obvious to me she is someone with no credibility left but I can understand how hard it is to come to terms with that when you genuinely believe and like someone
Material-Style4019@reddit
Staged smoke and mirrors.
Bullshit it was all rigged.
CleverNombre@reddit (OP)
I think my lack of faith at this point is warranted and to not be highly skeptical would be dangerously naive
IVcrushonYou@reddit
Exactly.
Playful-Country-9849@reddit
All right-wingers are dishonest, they just took advantage of populist sentiment. Let this be a lesson for everyone.