Air India offers hangar space for British F-35 stealth fighter Royal Navy has so far declined
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Air India offers hangar space for British F-35 stealth fighter stranded at Thiruvananthapuram airport for 6 days & counting with major technical fault. Sources tell me RoyalNavy has so far declined, contemplating offer.
Report Shiv Adoor (NDTV)
Economy_Ad_602@reddit
UK Intelligence can keep an eye on the aircraft via satellite monitoring.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Yeah they can only watch XD. What are they gonna do if we decide to take it apart XD.
NavXIII@reddit
India has made enemies out of US and Canada, you want them to add the UK to that list while not maintaining any major allies? Doesn't seem worth it to take apart the plane.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Canada is pretty pissed we assassinated terrorists on their soil. Fair but I wouldn't say Canada is an "enemy". Why would they invite Modi to the G7 meeting then? They are just throwing a hissy fit we did their job for them.
And since when is US an enemy to India? The US is supplying engines for India's fighter jets. They've also offered the F-35 to us. Why are the massively outsourcing the development and maintenance of their IT systems to us?
This comment section is a prime illustration of how st**pid the average redditor is. You seem to have zero clue what is happening in this region of the world lil buddy. Stick to bitching on r/canada about us.
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NavXIII@reddit
Relax bud you don't need to be this angry over whatever misinformation you read.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Cute reply. Can’t offer a decent counterargument? Run back to your safe space echo chamber white boi 😂
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Economy_Ad_602@reddit
FTA between India and UK will be cancelled. India will be considered as an adversary. India has no benefit in physically inspecting the aircraft for secrets. India prefers SU-57 and is not interested in F-35 as no enemy country possesses this aircraft.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Meh. Felt it benefits the UK more anyways. It was your government chasing us for the FTA anyways.
Scary.
Agreed but we are trying to build our own jets.
Fuck the SU-57. We won't buy it. No enemy country has the F-35 but the Chinese have based their own shitty copy of it.
mustbemaking@reddit
Key word “trying” good luck building a replica of it’s engine, many countries have tried and failed to build their own indigenous high performance turbines and failed. India is no exception. There aren’t many places they can be manufactured currently, the UK is one.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Like I’ve said in my other comments, if we wanted we would’ve already seized the plane.
I am also aware of our jet engine problems. The program has stalled but the government is injecting some vitality back into the program with technology transfers
Kevinwbooth@reddit
India preferred the SU-57, engaging in a joint project with Russia to build it, until Indian flight techs released the SU-57 was a steaming pile of shit that couldn’t possibly achieve half of what Russia claimed it could.
going10-1@reddit
Activate the Protect Summer protocol
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Cute
Legal-Philosopher-53@reddit
Does it get updated every minute?
Economy_Ad_602@reddit
No.Every time the satellite passes by, an image will be captured. Analysts will verify any change in position of the aircraft or appearance of any new objects or personnel nearby.
SnooPredictions4282@reddit
This is a bad press field day for the F35, can they just send a globemaster to fetch this plane back?
trumpsucks12354@reddit
Would need to be disassembled
SnooPredictions4282@reddit
Apparently not, it has been done before.
harambe_did911@reddit
Its an all weather aircraft. We park them on the flight deck of ships.
GetawayDreamer87@reddit
we even park them at the bottom of the sea.
RtlsnkSteve@reddit
As the guy that released that jet that day, still stings to see this brought up 😂
Sagail@reddit
Ooff dude. Sorry
RtlsnkSteve@reddit
All good. Just glad it wasn't a maintenance related issue that caused the crash.
Sagail@reddit
I work pretty closely with Flight Test Mechanics at Joby.
gas_flick_gas@reddit
sometimes, we just let it fly by itself without a pilot
lizhien@reddit
Under the sea..
Feisty_Board_4594@reddit
No
NominalFlow@reddit
Everything's better down where it's wetter
ketralnis@reddit
Take it from meeeee
ponyrx2@reddit
Ow, my money!
Forward-Intention411@reddit
No need for runways,
Just give us calm bays,
F-35, sea!
sealizer18@reddit
Nah that’s the F-18
Bourbonaddicted@reddit
Can't park there mate.
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throwaway_12358134@reddit
I'm going to counter your point by stating that the RAM coating degrades very quickly but it lasts longer when it's not outside and it's expensive to redo.
Java-the-Slut@reddit
A microscopic change in maintenance interval is worth a million times more than allowing India to inspect a state-of-the-art fighter behind closed doors.
I would be surprised if the UK even has the legal authority authority to allow it under these circumstances.
throwaway_12358134@reddit
I wouldn't accept that offer either. I will mention thoyg, that it's not a microscopic change in maintenance. The RAM on F-35s is more durable than the RAM on the F-22, but it degrades very fast in the elements vs in a hangar.
SoftConsideration82@reddit
Doesn't mean they don't deteriorate faster... You can park a car in a field or a garage but the one in the garage will last longer
Forgedpickle@reddit
This is just dumb. The plane will still get maintained.
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
In India? By whom?
Forgedpickle@reddit
I never said in India.
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
My brother in christ you opened a post about a British aircraft grounded in Indian weather and... You aren't talking about India?
How in the world would the aircraft still be maintained? Do you think it's carrying half a dozen point bags with 3 maintainers stuffed in each?
Forgedpickle@reddit
I also didn’t say it would happen right now. Why don’t you chill the fuck out and maybe not care so much? Good god lol
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
The only person that needs to "chill the fuck out" is the guy yelling "why don't you chill the fuck out" in a tame conversation...
Forgedpickle@reddit
Yelling? Hah. Okay if you say so. All I said was that the plane will still get maintained. I didn’t say when or where, but you guys seem to believe it will NEVER be maintained ever again. Anyways, you guys continue on.
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
Yeah, what would you describe it as? Calmy and collectedly stating "chill the fuck out"?
By whom, Air India?
I never once said it will "NEVER be maintained ever again".
Forgedpickle@reddit
Still stuck on that huh?
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
What?
Forgedpickle@reddit
Do I need to type that out again or maybe you should re-read your comment? Whatever helps you understand I guess. I have no more words for you. Have a good day
SoftConsideration82@reddit
And you started the whole chain by being wrong anyways... But by your comment history you seem to do that a lot for no readon
Forgedpickle@reddit
I’m not, but you say what you want.
SoftConsideration82@reddit
Yea I was only in the airforce motor pool for almost a decade, what do I know amiright? Or possibly, just possibly... your comment is the dumb one
One_pop_each@reddit
We have them in Alaska and England. They’re alright with rain.
Wingedgriffen@reddit
Where is its lightning arrestor?
Free-Light3370@reddit
Park it on a volcano 🌋!!!
Cruel2BEkind12@reddit
I dont think a volcano is weather.
SLZRDmusic@reddit
A starter aircraft? This is a finisher aircraft!
ifuckinlovetiddies@reddit
IASIP?
Jackmino66@reddit
Actually no, the British carriers are limited to only carrying as many aircraft as can fit in the hangar at once, which is why our carriers carry so few aircraft relative to their size
Electronic_Share1961@reddit
but it gets lonely
ShadowKraftwerk@reddit
Do they want out in the open to make it harder for someone to take a look at things that the RN doesn't want them to take a look at?
HairyNumber8775@reddit
Exactly. I'm sure the RN has people on the ground keeping an eye on it 24/7. Easier to do that when it's out in the open without seeming overly rude to the hosts.
Wonder if they've mounted radar reflectors to hide the real signature. Even on the ground I'd bet there are Indian radar engineers doing their best to capture data on the radar signature.
TheChromaBristlenose@reddit
You can see the little bumps on the fuselage around the wing root; the Luneberg lenses are indeed fitted. TBH I'd be more surprised if they weren't - they usually always fly with them.
Inceptor57@reddit
Part of me wonder if it’s always integrated in the plane and if there’s a button in the cockpit to extend or retract them at any time
beipphine@reddit
They are bolted on on top of the RAM material. They can be quickly removed by the grounds crew as part of the flight prep in the event it needs to fly without. Picture
thatsme55ed@reddit
Seems unlikely since that would be an extra system to potentially break down, and stealth aircraft try to minimize surface seams and imperfections that could reflect radar.
Inceptor57@reddit
You can just make out the luneburg lens on top of the F-35 fuselage and below near the tail that would affect its radar signature (these things).
The F-35 isn't presenting any more information than a typical airshow would, like Aero India 2025 back in February this year.
Really the only concern is just anyone approaching the aircraft, but I guess that's why the RN currently has it in the open in the middle of the airfield rather than anywhere else.
letigre87@reddit
I had to go look it up real quick. It seems weird they can't eject or retract the lens. You'd think if you're using the F-35 in a show of force you'd want to be able to convert back to stealth just in case the other person wants to find out.
Inceptor57@reddit
Find out what? If you want to go Full Stealth, you're using it in a manner where they won't even realize the F-35 splashed targets until it is outta there.
Unless you mean Find Out like "FAFO".
NotGoodButFast@reddit
But let’s play out a scenario - say that they’re doing a standard intercept on Russians aircraft/ship getting too close to British exercise/soil, but this time the Russians come with bad intent. They splash one F35 but miss the second. the other F35 is now evading and want to fight back and/or escape, but cannot make use of its biggest advantage. To me it seems obvious that you’d like to have a “oh crap, this conflict has gone hot”-button.
greentanker1@reddit
I'd imagine that in a normal intercept, stealth won't matter anyways because you're too close for it to work properly already.
And if that engagement happens at longer ranges where that stealth would actually work well, I think the RAF would just scramble other F-35s or eurofighters (or whatever) to fight back while that defending F-35 just keeps defending.
Just a guess as I have no true knowledge about British doctrine in this sense, not deep secret knowledge about F-35's stealth.
omega552003@reddit
It also has external pylons installed.
Inceptor57@reddit
I guess the weapon bay is open too when you take a closer look beyond the grainy image
SaltyRemainer@reddit
Clever. I suppose the pilot did that intentionally.
epikgamerwmp@reddit
It is. You can see the white inside hanging down.
TheCh0rt@reddit
They must construct additional pylons
EfficientTitle9779@reddit
Thank god it’s not in the middle of, I dunno, an air base on British soil because apparently that’s the hardest place to defend planes from attack
TheMadHistorian1@reddit
If WW3 happens outside 10am-4pm or when it's time for tea and biscuits we're screwed
thefrowner@reddit
If WW3 happens we are all screwed anyway so might as well just have tea and some biscuits.
TheMadHistorian1@reddit
Why we gotta invest in better early warning systems, need two mins for the kettle to boil
Intergalatic_Baker@reddit
… I bet the boys out in India heard that and were like “Where the fuck were the guards” and “Glad I’m not at that ShitShow, getting interrogated where I was and what I was doing.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
But there must be some sort of advanced algos to cancel our luneberg data from the radar scans, no? Like how they cancel our starlink sats from astro photos
Eddie894@reddit
Reflectors don't just produce their own distinct return profile, they also heavily alter the returns from the airframe itself. It requires extra effort to account for that too, which is why the exact dimensions/makeup of the luneberg lenses / reflectors are closely guarded too.
AceNova2217@reddit
It's actually pretty difficult to do that. F-35s rarely fly without the reflectors (even when intercepting you can see the reflectors installed), so you don't actually have any basis in reality of what they look like. This means you can't verify the algorithm even if you made one, making the algorithm useless as you could train your crews on a faulty radar return and effectivelty cripple them.
Removing Starlink is pretty simple. You just wait for one not to be there or take 2 photos and stitch them together. A lot of deep-space observation is also done outside of the atmosphere, above the orbit of Starlink.
Kiwifrooots@reddit
Also what would be needed to move it? You don't want some helpful tug yanking it around if it's fine there
Left-Associate3911@reddit
I wonder if the countries operating the F-35 are in some way beholden to the US who might be mandating what can happen behind the scenes 🤔
Remember the UK is one of the few countries that has full access to F-35 capabilities.
Contains_nuts1@reddit
We dint have full access, only israel does.
aitk6n@reddit
Israel does not. The UK is the only country with tier 1 access. The US has full access. Israel isn’t even in the same category as Australia. Israel are simply customers. They have very limited access to sensitive tech. That is the official party line at least.
Contains_nuts1@reddit
Well Israel certainly seems to be able to modify them to their liking...
https://theaviationist.com/2025/06/15/israeli-f-35-modifications/
aitk6n@reddit
They are allowed to integrate some indigenous systems, EW, weapons etc. on their F35I ‘Adir’.
londonx2@reddit
UK is the only Tier 1 partner, it was involved from the very beginning design phase before the programme won the bid with the US Air Force due to the UKs VTOL expertise and pro-active quest for a Panavia Tornado replacement.
The UK agreed to go ahead without access to the core flight code developed by Lockheed Martin but there was some effort to push for full access at the beginning. As BAE was chosen for the advanced cockpit/helmet/weapons software, to integrate that they had to farm it off to their US subsidary as that has special clearance with the US government for full access.
Israel is not a partner, it does not have any involvement in the manufacture and is just a customer, as a Non Nato member and strategic US ally it had a special weapons control interface created to allow them to integrate their own weapons platforms without Lockheed Martin getting involved.
Contains_nuts1@reddit
It is very much pay to play, we don't have any final assembly because our numbers didn't justify it.
Left-Associate3911@reddit
Fair enough. I don’t profess to know details just what I have read elsewhere out of amateur interest. As co-manufactures of (I think wings and other bits) the UK had tier 1 access.
londonx2@reddit
The UK is the only Tier 1 partner and were in the project from the very beginning ie design phase before it even won the bidding contract with the US. There are various other contributers with regards to manufacturing from around the world as well as support roles.
Even as a Tier 1 partner from the beginning, the US government wouldn't allow any UK company access to the core flight code developed by Lockheed Martin which includes the realtime maintenance data that morphed into the "kill switch" rumour on social media.
As BAE developed the advanced cockpit control software they had to do that via their US subsidary which has special clearance from the US government for full access. Isreal just has a special dedicated weapons control interface to allow them to develop their own bolt-on weapons platforms independently (ie non Nato) but they are not a Tier 1 partner and have less access.
blindfoldedbadgers@reddit
Neither the UK nor Israel have full access. They both have almost full access, but in slightly different ways. Two sides of the same coin is the best way to think about it. Everyone else has varying levels of access below that.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Does any of them have access to reconfigure it to better standards? Integrate their own weapons? Source Code access or just API endpoints?
Inceptor57@reddit
The only thing Israel is stated to be able to do is add-on their own electronic warfare suite and equipment in a "plug-and-play" fashion. They aren't replacing computers inside the F-35 for Israeli systems, just leaving open the compatibility to connect to Israeli components, even in an external fashion.
Some of these adaptions claim that this would mean Israel can also plug-n-play attach compatibility with domestic ordnance like Python missiles or SPICE glide bombs, but I can't seem to find anything to say Israel is able to do this independently of Lockheed Martin/USA or they still need their help with the integration.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Others have limited access?
Left-Associate3911@reddit
I believe so. The US may sell you say an F-16, but it will be a limited variant. I am sure I read somewhere the F-35 is one of those planes which is also tiered (as to who can have it) and then what functionality you can get.
SneakyFire23@reddit
That is 100% not the case, the JSF was meant to be a NATO fighter. The construction and assembly is done in partner nations as well. Italian F35s are assembled in Europe etc.
The *Software* is whats different, that's tightly controlled by Lockheed, but there's no "limitations" on the platform other than nuclear capabilities. Which tbf need specific certification per a few mutual treaties.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Jets as a Service, JAAS. Does it comes with pay as you go model too?
/s
ExaltedDLo@reddit
It literally does, yes.
Canada is having quite a discussion about this right now.
Not only did we commit to buy these jets from what was a great friend, but without a steady pipeline of solely US-sourced parts the Americans have a de facto kill-switch on Canadas entire future fighter program. Not to mention the real kill-switch of disabling targeting, evasion control etc from state side admin and control.
This was (perhaps shortsightedly) was considered a non-issue but a few short years ago, however is now causing considerable consternation among the Canadian public and military establishment.
Illustrious_Crab1060@reddit
I have a feeling that if Canada went to war with the US... there won't be a problem with the Air Force having a "kill switch".
I_am_BrokenCog@reddit
The parts are actually not even that serious of a potential export restriction.
The software which does the signals processing (to ID radar, comms, missiles etc) for both counter measures and targeting are updated on a per-mission basis.
Northrup/Lockheed/etc do constant signals analysis on opponent SIGINT signatures, and provide updated datasets to a wide range of tactical platforms.
Without those daily signature updates, what was a successful sortie against an oponent, today would be near-fatal.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Well, sad that you guys dont have any 747s lying around for gifts
ExaltedDLo@reddit
Best we can do is a yellow twin otter and a pair of cormorants… doors not included.
Deal?
Kseries2497@reddit
A lot less trouble to put some leather seats in the TwOtter and call it a day. I think this could work well.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Depends. Are you ready to invest in some crypto as well?
Smart-Decision-1565@reddit
Why not, that's pretty much what happens with the UK's polaris missiles.
The UK has full control of the missiles, and use their own warheads on them, but they rely on the USA when it comes to servicing the missiles.
In theory, the US could just decide to stop servicing them, which means eventually the polaris missiles will be effectively past their use by date.
Peterd1900@reddit
If US decided to stop servicing Polaris the UK would be fine. The UK retired Polaris back in 1996
Neither the UK or the USA use Polaris anymore the US retired them in 1980
The US started replacing Polaris with Poseidon in the mid 1970s before replacing Poseidon with Trident in the 1980s
The UK just went straight from Polaris to Trident and has operated trident since 1994
Smart-Decision-1565@reddit
I obviously confused the missiles.
Replace polaris with trident and the point still remains.
arnie580@reddit
Yep, you just have to pray your subscription doesn't renew whilst you're in the air and your credit cards expired.
Dragon_0562@reddit
the Russians do the same thing. that is why there is the Mi-24 Hind D, and the Mi-35 Hind Export version.
Left-Associate3911@reddit
Makes sense. You don’t want your neighbours use your technology against you/ your interests.
Jaggedmallard26@reddit
Standard export model shenanigans.
DutchProv@reddit
Pretty sure the Netherlands is also in such a position, was a contributor from the start and builds quite a few parts.
SuperCuteRoar@reddit
I think only the UK is part of Tier 1. IIRC, The Netherlands and Italy are both on Tier 2.
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blinkersix2@reddit
Reminds me of the F117 that was shot down in Bosnia if I remember correctly. The only reason It was spotted on radar was because of when the door was opened for the munitions and even then it was a very small blip on the screen.
DD3566@reddit
I doubt the Royal Navy will have a 24/7 watch on the F35. Just last night some Pro Palestine protestors broke into an RAF base in the UK, sprayed a fire extinguisher worth of paint into the engines of 2 Voyager Tankers, and left without being spotted
local_meme_dealer45@reddit
Look just in front of the tail in this photo, you can see a small bump that one of those reflectors. To my knowledge F-35s almost always have them on when not doing combat missions.
jumpy_finale@reddit
Photos from the airport confirm it has removable Luneberg Lens radar reflectors fitted. It has also two missile rails on the wings and various Remove Before Flight tags and covers applied.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lens
AgentRacro@reddit
I am saying this being an Indian
trust me lmfao , DRDO or HAL aren't that advanced to extract technology from the F-35.
pong_lenis_18@reddit
The white man will never accept you Sepoy
Traditional_Yak7654@reddit
How does one become this insecure? It’s truly fascinating.
pong_lenis_18@reddit
All the racism faced does that
AgentRacro@reddit
are you really just unable to read what I am saying ?
learn the difference between Patriotism and Nationalism first.
pong_lenis_18@reddit
You made a classic 'As an Indian..' comment to please the Simons. That's sepoy behaviour
AgentRacro@reddit
I can't argue with someone who is this narrow minded.
Such_Explanation_184@reddit
Sure a company with some of the best ICBM and hypersonic missile tech in the world isn't advanced enough to copy stuff.
They may be lazy and clumsy but to say that they're incompetent were you born yesterday?
AgentRacro@reddit
The thing is if you can reverse engineer a specific kind of technology, then you very much have the ability to develop it indigenously.
I am not calling them incompetent by any means whatsoever they pretty capable ,I know that very well , but reverse engineering something like F-35 requires decades of experience about jet engines
Mastering missile technology and mastering in Jet technology are completely two different things, you know that aswell , DRDO has achieved great success in the former, about the latter? time will tell
JUYED-AWK-YACC@reddit
Please stop this massive cut and paste, it’s boring and unconvincing.
ReverseLochness@reddit
That is not at all how reverse engineering works. If being capable of reverse engineering something automatically meant you could make the thing yourself, why have reverse engineering? The point is to study something you don’t understand until you can reliably copy it and then innovate off of that copy. India certainly has the skill to reverse engineer the F-35, it would just take them a lot of time and tons of money. It probably wouldn’t be cost efficient, but that’s the danger of reverse engineering.
AgentRacro@reddit
Lets say you know how to make a chocolate cake
you want to make a strawberry cake and your friend brings it to you.
you analyse it yourself by various methods and understand how its made.
so you try it making yourself.
what's common in both of them? you make the dough first!
now compare that dough to the Jet engine.
India hasn't been able to successfully develop the Kaveri Jet Engine, if you can't make the main component, what's the point of spending that money over developing stealth technology.
Why was the US able to make the F-15 by reverse engineering the MiG-25, when Viktor Belenko defected? They already HAD THE DOUGH! , THE ENGINE! ,they thoroughly worked upon that.
India lacks the dough itself. Why do you think we haven't reverse engineered Rafale's Engine for Kaveri? Its not just about the cost, its about how far can you get with all that
ReverseLochness@reddit
So several points that are incorrect. The analogy doesn’t work because cake making is too close, it would be better to say they make cookies and are trying to make cake or something like that. The F-15 is most certainly not reverse engineered, and was instead over engineered because of the perceived superiority of Soviet airframes. Of course we later learned these claims were false, but it still got us to make a monster of a bird.
India is having difficulties with their jet engine, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t still be researching stealth technology. If they got their hands on the F-35 for even an hour they’d be able to learn more about the stealth, computer systems, and just general construction techniques. Every piece of that bird down to the screws is custom and made that way for a reason. Reverse engineering lets you take it apart and put it together different ways so you can say “Oh, that’s why they use screws that are flush with the plane, or why the engine is built this way.” That data allows you to build your own technology.
India lacks money, but also isn’t getting the full tech transfer for their planes. Why would they take apart a rafale when they only have but so many, and will still learn lots maintaining them. They need actual tech documents or multiple engines to tear down and test with to really get advancements.
It’s one of the ways their no real allies strategy is harming them. Sure your friends will give you second tier tech and help you maintain it, but only allies are gonna help you catch up.
AgentRacro@reddit
Oh well... you can countered all my points and educated me more, thank you for the insight I appreciate it!
I don't have anything to counter your statements so I like halt here.
__DraGooN_@reddit
Agent brown sepoy reporting for duty saar.
AgentRacro@reddit
people like you are the reason we will always be m0ck3d.
finding kinks in ourselves and admitting that is the sign of strength and not weakness.
Learn that first before being a hyper idealistic nationalist.
-smartcasual-@reddit
I've often thought the difference between patriotism and nationalism (and this applies to every country) is that a patriot sees the problems with their country, calls them out and works to improve them, while a nationalist denies that their country has problems.
AgentRacro@reddit
that is what a lot of Indians need to realise
some have and some haven't
I am being called Anti-India here because of this,
I want my country to shine but not just upon hopes , but actual strength and concrete reality in front of the world
-smartcasual-@reddit
Seriously, I have a lot of respect for India and the massive progress you've made in the last few decades, especially in defence and technology. I believe that's a good thing for the global order, and it's something to be proud of, even if it's not yet complete.
But I have to say, when people treat every interaction as an information war and every criticism like an incoming round, it really comes across as insecure. The great resilience of democratic societies is that they're confident enough to openly discuss and solve their weaknesses, not hide them.
AgentRacro@reddit
I appreciate your kind words.
and yes you got that right , it is about insecurity. Even deniers deep down know the faults , they don't have the courage to admit it and I can understand that , but that won't change anything unless necessary measures are taken.
It is tough to convey that message, but hey there are a lot of people who are ready to admit and work upon those ruptures , it will take time surely, but the sooner the population realises the better
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Not able to "absorb" the 5th Gen tech was one of the major factors for the cancellation of FGFA. Russians simply said ToT India was demanding was not possible as we can't absorb it.
People on the SM think ToT is like transferring data in a pendrive.
AgentRacro@reddit
I really wish more of us could understand this.... I want our country to stand on concrete reality and show the world that "Yes India , did it."
and not this "brown sepoy" label for denying reality.
PitifulParamedic536@reddit
Yeah if they were good they would've already reversed engineered Rafael and build an engine but that's not an easy task ! These babus are only good for doing corruption
lmao indians don't want to accept reality that we are not that advanced we don't even have technology to extract data from blackbox and these guys think we going to copy paste f35
AgentRacro@reddit
exactly my point brother , people here are calling me "brown sepoy" for pointing out reality,
AND i even made an edit to my comment for them to understand what I meant
Such_Explanation_184@reddit
All this idealistic discussion never really happens instead casual opinions like these add to the arsenal of paki shits and likewise who're waging info wars against us. No matter how pure your intentions may be. And it's so ironic that you talk about reasons for getting mocked while mocking 2 of the most prominent defence corporations of the nation.
You are under no obligation to praise anyone but atleast don't drag your country through mud for no reason.
AgentRacro@reddit
Brother, Pls recheck my comment. I don't mean any disgrace whatsoever to our nation I want them to succeed and shine absolutely, but not with lies.
Bhag_BoseDK@reddit
First complete your BTech kid, then point fingers at DRDO scientists.
AgentRacro@reddit
you really , need to re-check my comment I guess.
I have made an edit to make sure idealistic people understand what I mean to say
Chance-Track6814@reddit
Thumko Dugna lagaan dena pdega
Chance-Track6814@reddit
lol
TheCarnivorishCook@reddit
Unless they do
PanzerKomadant@reddit
Yh. The Indians most likely offered because they most likely do want to open bits of it up and see what’s inside and what they can study.
It’s why the Brits most likely refused. In open weather with rain, if the Indians tried to open it, they’ll damage the internals. That and the Brits can keep a better eye on it.
Bourbonaddicted@reddit
They must have a 24x7 satellite surveillance on it.
FatFaceAbs@reddit
Indians are friendly with the Russians and buy Russians planes so the RAF is scared funny stuff might happened in a hanger.
Jinga1@reddit
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/u-s-prepares-f-35a-stealth-fighter-offer-to-india-amid-pakistan-china-fifth-gen-airpower-pact/
Prepare_Your_Angus@reddit
Doesn't mean it's a smart decision.
ReverseLochness@reddit
Or that it will even happen. India will want full tech transfer and local production. That won’t happen with the F-35.
AgentRacro@reddit
trust me lmfao , DRDO or HAL aren't that advanced to extract technology from the F-35.
ProfessionalSkirt589@reddit
A aircraft is more than its engine. F35 is known for its avionics. And that can be reverse engineered pretty well
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
We bought Russian planes*. The US has offered India F-35s and F-35 were even part of an Indian airshow. Calm your tits w**toid.
yetiflask@reddit
Cold War ended in the 90s.
LigerSixOne@reddit
I suspect that’s what they are doing but I don’t know why. Because a few years ago the US Air Force put one in our hangar. We were allowed in and out on our own, and they just had a cop stay with it all night to make sure no one took close up pictures, after the AF crew left. A good telephoto lense is going to get more info than someone trying to sneak a cellphone pic while security is watching it in a hangar.
dontpaynotaxes@reddit
Yes. Rain won’t hurt it.
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
I don't think the internals of the F35 are waterproof for them to be able to repair the aircraft in the rain. It's monsoon season in Kerala. India even offered to build a temporary shed for repairs if they were feeling insecure in a hangar, but that was rejected as well.
of_the_mountain@reddit
Maybe the us will come carry it away with a ch53 or even take the wings off and move it on a c130
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
That seems like the only option for now, considering the fact that HMS Prince of Wales sailed off to Australia
MASSochists@reddit
That and they don't want anyone to get a sample of the RAM.
2FAmademe@reddit
Feel free to point out literally anything that hasn’t been seen before (hint you can’t).
usernamefoundnot@reddit
Just make sure they are giving it a bo’le-o-wa’er every few hours to keep it hydrated in that heat.
WhatTheKukaManga@reddit
LOL, if they place it in a hanger that F35 will be inspected and all its' technology will be stolen.
obalovatyk@reddit
No way in hell that is not under 24/7 watch by RAF.
Nostriski@reddit
I mean they haven't exactly got the best track record of keeping unwanted visitors away from their aircraft right now. Luckily the RN.
HotBabyBatter@reddit
I remember the international fleet review in Karachi when the Chinese ran through Hms daring and took photos of everything including the lynx…good times.
HotRecommendation283@reddit
I hate how there’s no examples of the west pulling of stunts like that
THE_KING95@reddit
Look up operation barmaid.
PanzerKomadant@reddit
Operation Mermaid? The time when the US literally stole a whole as Mi gunship? VTOL tech knowledge from the Yak program was utilized to some degree in the F-35. The US literally stole a Soviet Satellite in Mexico in 1959 that helped US’s own programs
We stole a fucking Soviet Naval propeller when one of their ship was visiting Portsmouth Harbor lol.
Yh, we definitely have played the same game during the cold war. Then taking pictures is the least aggressive thing nations engaging in espionage have done.
HotRecommendation283@reddit
Not the actual stuff, the more clandestine and pervasive operations
Snazzy21@reddit
Is it? I wouldn't be so sure
qalpi@reddit
There's another post on here about planes at Brize Norton being vandalized by protesters. The RAF don't have the best track record.
Unlikely-Squirrel832@reddit
They rolled right upto the planes like they taking a casual stroll. My dad used to deliver milk to Brize Norton, he's surprised at how they got in given how much hassle he had to go through to deliver milk. Hope this youtube video isn't geolocked.
https://youtu.be/veYSlGrm9o0?si=nrJX-xIRKmKJ-io1
CeleritasLucis@reddit
And USAF
ketchup1345@reddit
Definitely not the USAF. If anything Lockheed themselves and maybe the CIA, but MI6 would do a better job as it is for their own country. The plane won't be abandoned, there will always be someone there watching over it.
arjunprabhu@reddit
this is not china. so, chill.
WhatTheKukaManga@reddit
Just a country practically at war with Pakistan eager to get any new technology to have an edge...
One-Web-2698@reddit
I imagine there's a satellite parked above it as we speak. Best place for it is in the open.
thefrowner@reddit
It doesn't work like that. Imagine satellites are usually on a lower orbit so they have like 90 minutes interval. Scheduling a bunch of satellites to have near real time visual is very very expensive as is moving geostationary imaging satellites which are also rare.
It is more likely the manufacturer/operator would likely get telemetry data if someone touches or does somethings to the aircraft physically
7pointsome1@reddit
so who is guarding it now ? Is there some special British Military protection around it currently ?
Tomero@reddit
Do you see anybody on the picture?
borokish@reddit
That's how good they are.
AdmiralShawn@reddit
The new runway camo
EfficientTitle9779@reddit
There are actually 11 people in this photo
Virtual-Football-417@reddit
do you think British military will be allowed to have some kind of control on Indian soil? Even if they are allowed to, it would be theatrics to pacify the paranoia of UK/US. Ultimately, its will be Indian forces that protects this jet.
lone_Ghatak@reddit
Indian para military forces.
Although I'd guess British forces are keeping an eye by satellite. That's why they don't want to move it to the hangar.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Nope, CISF
rithvikrao@reddit
Trust me, if DRDO and HAL were so proactive and good at 'stealing' just by looking, development would not be stuck at the Tejas LCA. 😂 It's gonna sit in a hangar and they're just gonna cover it with some tarp.
cheatdeactivated@reddit
If given the budget DRDO and HAL can already make one 5th gen fighter, but then how will our politicians get their cuts from those massive arms deals.
rithvikrao@reddit
It's not about the budget. I've seen HAL projects not see the light of the day even after being sanctioned the requested money. The new govt implementing net 90 and the 90-10 payment scheme has moved things a lot. But there is so much inertia and the lack of proactivity from the top brass that we still see today. Even the Air Chief Marshall has criticised it. HAL for a large party was happy with building the previous gen helicopters and servicing them.
CalmestUraniumAtom@reddit
The reason the tejas is so delayed is because of delays in the ge engines not the mistake of hal
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
We would've taken it apart if we wanted by now we**toid.
WiseAd9707@reddit
I wish we were atleast 5% as good at stealing as y'all think we are.
GeneralOhara71@reddit
Bihar boys where you at
pruthvi573@reddit
Exactly my first thought when this happened.....why deal with scientists and engineers. Just chuck a few Biharis in its close proximity and that things gone
GeneralOhara71@reddit
Next day you RAM- coated metal for sale all over Munger
Moist-Guest-7765@reddit
Reverse engineering takes years. But I can understand their concern. They don't want to take their eyes off, probably some satellite is fixed on it.
throwaway1243769063@reddit
I wish DRDO was as proactive as the westerners think 😞
RoboJobot@reddit
Did the Yanks turn it off?
currypufff@reddit
The subscription ran out.
Dave_A480@reddit
Harder to do sneaky-beaky things to it if it's out on a public ramp.
Journalist-Chance@reddit
India: "Come on guys we were all part of the same empire once. Years of history together. I gave you so much. You don't even trust me one bit?"
FrankSarcasm@reddit
Its a bit like parking a nice car at the supermarket
gkggmutd11@reddit
Finally the communists have f35.
Elegant_Individual46@reddit
India? Communist?
AzoMaalox@reddit
The state government is communist.
Elegant_Individual46@reddit
Ah I see, the chief minister is Marxist. Though India’s govt itself and the governor are BJP nationalists so idk how big of an issue the communist thing is compared to just ‘not RN/RAF’.
Powerful-Produce-604@reddit
first solo
EasyDot7071@reddit
Bet they have a satellite watching it from above.
zero0n3@reddit
Yeah put it in a hanger they can then scan and inspect the vehicle without the overhead satellite being able to see they did it
crimemastergogo96@reddit
Not much to read into here.
We offered to provide them hangar space as a courtesy, RN declined ( as expected) . It’s called being civil.
Rollover__Hazard@reddit
Not about to give the Indians a chance to hide it away in a hangar and get the toolkit out tyvm
crimemastergogo96@reddit
India knows the RN is not going to give them access to F35. No sane country would.
It’s our duty to offer hanger space and the RNs to decline the offer. Isn’t that a very British thing to do? 😉
Rollover__Hazard@reddit
Getting access and getting access are very different things…
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Shouldn't have emergency landed in India. Crash the jet. If we really wanted to take the jet apart, we would have done it by now w**toid. What is Britian gonna do against a nuclear triad country lol.
uhya16@reddit
Britain may not do anything but that’s an American jet, and India surely would not want to piss off the USA especially when it comes to war technology
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
They will hit us with sanctions. They are not gonna get into a war with us lol.
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RebouncedCat@reddit
holy fucking shit look at the the "most advanced fighter jet" sitting like a stupid duck for what the entire week ? If all of these w**toids were afraid of getting it stolen, why even bother sending one here.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Exactly lol. "HELP! The sneaky Injuns are gonna steal our most advanced jet which we willingly landed on their own soil due to technical isues" The racism is just comical.
Nightowl11111@reddit
What I am curious about is not India offering hanger space, it is AIR INDIA offering hanger space. Wonder why a public airlines is doing so, not the government. Trying to get some good PR after the recent mishap?
BelowAverageLass@reddit
Hangar space at commercial airports tends to be owned or leased out to commercial operators, not operated by the government. At Thiruvananthapuram International Airport, Air India have enough hangar space that they can offer some to the RN.
Nightowl11111@reddit
True but that does not answer my question of why. What's in it for Air India?
HAHAHA-Idiot@reddit
Tata Group, which owns Air India, also has a large presence in Britain. It's not really out of the way for them to offer assistance.
BelowAverageLass@reddit
Money, they won't have offered it for free
AzoMaalox@reddit
It's actually air india engineering services limited (aiesl) which is a government owned mro company having hangars in the airport. Aiesl is not part of tata's air india.
Nightowl11111@reddit
Ah, ok, that was more enlightening than wondering why an airlines was trying to get the Royal Navy to use its hanger space. A supply/service company makes more sense.
senpahII@reddit
Was it actual courtesy, or will RN be charged?
TheGacAttack@reddit
That doesn't make the offer uncivil.
pwillia7@reddit
How come it's incivility but uncivil?
bichir3@reddit
i'm going to make you a decent proposal, not an indecent proposal like the movie
Traditional_Yak7654@reddit
Is the RN so strapped for cash that they need hand outs from India?
rohmish@reddit
it was a private airline that offered the space it seems, not the government. So I assume they would charge for it.
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
I mean it is a hangar owned by Air India - an airline... Of course it won't be free
Callistoo-@reddit
For using a hangar, obviously
False-Pirate1342@reddit
anyone know what variant it is?
False-Pirate1342@reddit
B i found out its the B variant
LDRispurehell@reddit
I feel like this is less about UK and more about USA
Brown-Rocket69@reddit
How ?
LDRispurehell@reddit
iIRC, there are a lot of security and operating restrictions placed on the F35 by the US. I can only imagine that since India doesn’t own any at the moment, they don’t want to take any chances with it being behind closed doors.
rohmish@reddit
I assume the security aspect would remain the same with RAF personnel being present at all times. I doubt adding a shed over it would change much.
seang239@reddit
Adding a shed takes away the ability for the satellite they have watching her to see if anything’s going on.
seang239@reddit
She stays out in the open so the satellite they have watching her can make sure nothing happens to her.
TweakJK@reddit
This is surprising. I work next to an F35 unit in the US. You want to know what they do if a jet is left uncovered overnight? A team shows up and builds this giant mobile lightning rod. That's how valuable this aircraft is.
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
Or... Your dedi avi would properly ground it.
WetBehindTheEarz@reddit
They're probably having to ship the parts + people in to do the repairs, this isnt exactly something that would have been prepared for.
TweakJK@reddit
Oh yea, I've done rescue detachments, it's always a huge pain in the butt.
I'm just surprised they didnt accept the offer of putting it indoors, where it's much easier to keep an eye on it. I've been sent armed to the middle of nowhere in Japan to watch over 2 EA-18G's, and those arent nearly as spicy as the 35.
Repulsive-Youth-2631@reddit
Out in the open can be permanently observed and nothing shady can happen, so about as secure as can be in an insecure place. If that offer was taken up and “stored for safety” in a hanger that thing would be in bits before the doors finished closing.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Jesus christ, If you are that suspicious of us, just crash the fucking jet next time.
H2SXSE22@reddit
You know you want it. This is what you get for being "soft" with Russia while they kill Ukrainian kids.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
First of all, We've been offered the F-35's by the US XD. Secondly, we've publicly condemned the war and asked for peace and cooperation. What we won't do is dance to your tune.
H2SXSE22@reddit
There is a big difference between the ones given and the ones seen. That plane is a UK owned one. You're India. India is very cozy with Russia and it's a fact.
Also, go fuck yourself banchot, just because I don't support Terrorist fucks (HAMAS) doesn't make me hate "brown people" as you named them. India is famous for loving whiter skinned people and looking down on darker skin, so don't try that fucking game with me.
The innocent CIVILIANS of Palestine deserve peace and respect, not the dog terrorists that use them as shields. Yet you're clearly following the media too closely and are a sheep and a fool.
Secure_Row_1370@reddit
Whats the meaning of watermelon
lord_lableigh@reddit
Palestine
SeaMolasses2466@reddit
Dnt matter. Indians can’t fly shit
DontKillUncleBen@reddit
I heard Rahim Yar Khan is out of order till 4th July.
PartyDrama08@reddit
Aww Pakistani hurt much?
blasternaut007@reddit
Can someone explain why this jet has not yet flown out of there? What exactly is so complicated to get the jet fixed?
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
There was an article a few days ago claiming that the jet has issues with its hydraulics systems. I doubt actually fixing it would take as long as it is taking. The problem is with the logistics around fixing the aircraft. India offered RN a hangar to inspect and fix the aircraft or even build a temporary shed around the aircraft if the British team who landed in wanted to do repairs. Both offers were rejected (as expected) so now the plane is sitting alone drenched in the monsoon rains until somehow they transport it elsewhere.
blasternaut007@reddit
But can't the British send some cargo plane to transport it back? Or maybe a helicopter to lift it up to transport to their naval base.
How hard can it be?
thefrowner@reddit
It is not called fat amy for just fun. F35B is not a small and light aircraft. Also chances of damage even if it was possible.
Illustrious_Block345@reddit
Use it as ransom for the kohinoor.
Aight just some light hearted humour lads 🤣
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
I am quite sure that the HMS Prince of Wales is sailing to Australia for exercises there so I doubt the Royal Navy has anywhere to transport the aircraft to. Another thing is that I don't think many people realise that Trivandrum International Airport is also the headquarters of Southern Air Command of the IAF. There could be some level of concern from there as well.
blasternaut007@reddit
Having a foreign aircraft at an air force HQ specially when you can't access it is itself concerning.
What if the plane has some spy machinery or it's some trojan horse.
_esoteric001@reddit
You watch.too many movies
Zack21c@reddit
You really think nothing would come of blowing up a broken down jet from a friendly nation that you allowed to make a landing? You honestly think that wouldn't result in retaliation?
Captain1771@reddit
Yeah, that'll for sure be great for relations.
Besides, certain countries already share airports (a few of which act as the primary air force base) with foreign air fleets and I'm certain they would've assessed the pros and cons before doing that.
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
Capturing or blowing up the plane will be definitely going too far... Im sure the Royal Navy had their apprehensions as well about making a landing in India. Trivandrum ATC was informed of the emergency at 9:22pm and the plane was on the ground at 9:30. They probably had no other options.
someoneired@reddit
Eh, the f35 is going to be fine rn. Remember the harriers?
Rdubya291@reddit
No? What happened to the Harriers in India?
scuderia91@reddit
It’s probably just as quick to get the necessary parts out and repair it as it would be to arrange a transport plane, disassemble the f35 enough to fit and transport it to a British base.
It’s in a relative safe place at an allies airport. Probably easier and cheaper to leave it there until they can get it repaired
someoneired@reddit
Last line is perfectly said
paadugajala@reddit
Besides they can't do shit for now due to bad weather, they have to bring anything here to fix the flight and then take it or disassemble the jet and transport it.
MadjLuftwaffe@reddit
Problems with hydraulic systems apparently.
LastBossTV@reddit
I'd at least cover it with a tarp. I could send them some tarps.
Suuuumimasen@reddit
It's an all weather jet aircraft...I'm sure it'll be just fine
scuderia91@reddit
These are literally designed to sit in the deck of aircraft carriers. I’m sure they can manage some rain for a few days or weeks
powerpuffpopcorn@reddit
But opening it up for the required surgery might not be ideal during monsoons. So RN might be taking its time with all the available options.
scuderia91@reddit
Yes but they can move it indoors to repair, they’d just prefer to leave it outside where they can keep an eye on it
powerpuffpopcorn@reddit
They don't want to and its ok. Its their equipment and they are cautious.
scuderia91@reddit
They don’t want it being stored indoors, which makes sense. But if they rock up to fix it and there’s torrential rain then obviously they’ll just move it indoors. They just don’t want it being kept indoors.
Arrow-New@reddit
It's not like that India have Interest in it as it's already an outdated tech and USA already have the upgraded version.
Chimbo84@reddit
Why is it still there? Hasn’t it been like a week?
SRM_Thornfoot@reddit
It will be fine sitting in the rain. It's an all weather fighter.
oblizni@reddit
What if problem with plane is water leaking 😅
Vamana1@reddit
Hypothetically, what if we seize this aircraft for studying it, what potentially can the US or the UK do to India.
elchsaaft@reddit
India would enter a "find out" phase.
Complete_Biscotti151@reddit
It comes in aero india in bengaluru. Its not a big deal. It was on display in multiple air shows
Illustrious_Block345@reddit
Underrated logical comment.
MassiveFkingYolo@reddit
Sanctions? US won't provide the GE 404 engines and support for some US weaponry. They also won't offer any more weapons in the future but we won't buy them anyways. No point in seizing it tbh.
Left-Associate3911@reddit
“You go sit in the corner and think about what you did. Naughty RAF. Naughty F-35.”
🤣
whippitywoo@reddit
I heard this in John Oliver's voice
RadlogLutar@reddit
r/planesgonewild
Jee-ne-14@reddit
Holly shit r/theresasubforthat
HereToDoThingz@reddit
…………
Left-Associate3911@reddit
🤣👌👏
sleezykeezy@reddit
All I hear is John Oliver's voice reading this.
UnderstandingNo5667@reddit
*Royal Navy not RAF
ruperthackedmyphone@reddit
All UK F-35s belong to the RAF, even those on RN squadrons.
haseena_ka_paseena@reddit
"What are you doing step-plane? This hamgar can only have one of us"
mxforest@reddit
There are hot 35 yr old (F)emales in the area.
allurboobsRbelong2us@reddit
You must punish F-35 with a spanking.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
With that commercial airliner keeps an eye on you during detention
Contains_nuts1@reddit
The one that can fly you mean?
forgottenkahz@reddit
Good call. The Americans would rather have the plane chopped into pieces and loaded on a C17 than for it to be inspected by Chinese and Russian agents.
crimemastergogo96@reddit
Yes I am sure there are lots of Chinese agents in India. /s
elchsaaft@reddit
There are undoubtedly Chinese agents in India.
MASSochists@reddit
Of course there are Chinese agents in India. China is good and espionage and that's how espionage works.
crimemastergogo96@reddit
I think the original message implies that india will give access to Chinese agents to inspect F35. India does not have a good relationship with China.
However good/ bad Chinese agents are, the chances them gaining access to an F35 at an Indian airport are pretty remote.
SHTF_yesitdid@reddit
Pretty much all Indians are either Chinese agents or Russian agents. Some of them American agents. Some of them are triple agents.
I am a Russian agent but my siblings are Chinese agents.
blah_bleh-bleh@reddit
Wait. And I have been stuck as an NK agent. How do I upgrade?
Bazzingatime@reddit
You defect to South Korea and start out as a former North Korean South Korean agent , then hopefully get recruited by the CIA.
blah_bleh-bleh@reddit
Not the Americans man. Too much work, too much espionage. I already have this man child as boss who kills on whim. How about some europeans who don’t do much but still maintain and provide good work life balance?
Bazzingatime@reddit
You gotta do CIA to get cool with the KGB , if you make it there then some EU guys will pay you big bucks to come over , there ain't no other way for you NK agents.
blah_bleh-bleh@reddit
Thanks man. I will try it.
SHTF_yesitdid@reddit
My brother in Marx, you have already hit the jackpot. Do your job well and you get to move to the paradise that is Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
blah_bleh-bleh@reddit
Damn. Never thought of it that way.
SHTF_yesitdid@reddit
Taps forehead.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Just like there aren't any Israeli agents inside Iran
coderhs@reddit
Make sense, outside in the open they will be constant surveillance of satellites. Any goes near it they will know.
Drtysouth205@reddit
That's the thinking.
elchsaaft@reddit
They need to get that thing out of there ASAP.
SituationSerious1589@reddit
Perfect opportunity for someone in the Indian government to build a pretext that it got stolen LOL and then reverse engineer it to build the I35 😉
Secure_Row_1370@reddit
Ah yes i35 the indian version of the finn F35
marine595@reddit
Just saw another post of a pro-Palestinian breaking into a British airbase and sabotaging two refuelling planes. lol they gonna target this f35 next
undampori@reddit
Kerala is a leftist state with lot of pro Palestine voices. Hope someone does this
noxx1234567@reddit
the cisf guys will shoot on sight if anyone approaches high priority targets . State governments have very little say in defence matters
RequirementLocal7418@reddit
To what end?
egvp@reddit
Getting from Oxfordshire to India on an e-bike is going to take a really, really long time.
TheMadHistorian1@reddit
They could be about to go on their gap Yaar tho!
DungeonDefense@reddit
Yeah I'm sure there are no Muslims in India
AvocadoAcademic897@reddit
How does this help Palestine?
marine595@reddit
Tactically, it reduces British capabilities in supporting air ops over the region, but I don’t think they do any of that in the first place. They do run NATO flights monitoring the airspace in the region tho
Primary-Ad818@reddit
Glad they locked the wheels, Tom Cruise would have definitely stolen it (and fix it mid air).
Illustrious_Block345@reddit
Much safer here than on British air bases apparently.
Seriously though those people are hooligans.
FlyByPC@reddit
That's probably a nice afternoon, for the UK.
Akhil_Mehta@reddit (OP)
Some sources are saying Royal Navy F-35B Stranded in India had suffered Engine Damage from Fuel Starvation (IDRW)
harambe_did911@reddit
Damn if only Lockheed had thought about this. You should give them a call
Snazzy21@reddit
They want to leave it out so pro-Palestinian protesters can spray red spray paint into the engine
pinkfloyd4ever@reddit
The Royal Navy is apparently not afraid of a little water
Narrow-Fortune-7905@reddit
fool me once shame on you
fool me twice......
Key-Monk6159@reddit
At least toss a trap over it.
JustPlaneNew@reddit
One day, it'll grow up to be an Air India A350.
Ziegler517@reddit
Do you know how many lidar cameras and the amount of electronic monitoring is probably in there? I’d park it outside too. It’s in a controlled access space not in the curb next your house.
StarkAndRobotic@reddit
If they put it in the hangar all kinds of random persons will put their paws on it. If they leave it outside in the rain it will be safer because no one will want to get wet.
haseena_ka_paseena@reddit
Gawd, Indians touching it won't make it smell like masala. casual racism much. That apart, its being kept under a vigil constantly by airport security as a courtesy
StarkAndRobotic@reddit
😂Racism? Im an Indian. I didnt think about masala until you mentioned it, but now i can totally imagine a bunch of people sitting on the wings having lunch or something if its not being monitored. Plane would definitely smell of food! Sambhar! Haha…
haseena_ka_paseena@reddit
Bro, puttu works if putty doesn't work on the plane
dustsmoke@reddit
If you spend time reading government media in India. It's very clear that India is on the BRICS side of things over G7 or NATO.
It may not be clear to everyone yet. But India is not a western ally. Of course you keep it out in the open where you can watch over it. And of course they are offering hanger space for India and likely China, Russia to come look at.
They'll also host as many American companies as anybody will let them host.
Enough-Meaning1514@reddit
How about a big tent?!?
abdayk23@reddit
How about an invisibility blanket?
Enough-Meaning1514@reddit
Indeed. Are we even supposed to see this?
Chronigan2@reddit
Well, there is a technical fault.
ResolutionFair8307@reddit
already there , but you can't see it
CeleritasLucis@reddit
India offered, got rejected
snappy033@reddit
They want to be able to monitor the plane outdoors at all times. Plus, it’s either let the rain hit it or risk whatever low probability disaster could happen in a hangar. Which is not that low probability if you have worked in the aviation industry for a while.
Electrical fire in the hangar, ceiling falling on it, fire suppression in the hangar accidentally triggering, security guard letting their kid crawl inside the intake and getting stuck and so on. Any of that stuff that could cause an international headline.
Trepanation87@reddit
Fat Amy likes the rain.
popdivtweet@reddit
No hangar required; the brochure says it’s waterproof.
Candle-Jolly@reddit
Keep it well in the open for satellite surveillence
PrestigiousGlove585@reddit
The RN wants someone to see it’s there.
_rth_@reddit
This is US propriety technology, they’d rather set this thing on fire than letting it go into even into the hands of their allies
GurthNada@reddit
I guess they'll end up removing the wing and taking it back to the UK in a RAF C-17.
scuderia91@reddit
I imagine that’s last resort if they can’t get it repaired where it is within the next few weeks
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
I don't think they can repair it in the open without even as much as a tent to prevent rainwater from entering as they repair. India offered to build a shed around the aircraft but that was rejected by the Royal Navy. Monsoon rains have been relentless here in Trivandrum and most likely will be for a while, so repair is out of the cards.
Zack21c@reddit
It depends what the broken component is and where it is accessible from. There's plenty of repairs you can do outdoors. No way to know without knowing what the actual fault it.
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
Many news sources claim that it is a fault with the hydraulics systems. A small British team from the carrier landed in Trivandrum on a helicopter on Sunday but they couldn't fix it on their own, so now they are waiting for a larger team to arrive from the UK.
scuderia91@reddit
Yes but they can move it into shelter when it’s time to repair it. They just don’t want it out of sight while it’s waiting for that.
GetOffMyGrassBrats@reddit
Leave it alone and its mother will feed it and teach it to fly.
QuestionMean1943@reddit
India, aligned with Russian weaponry, would love to have that plane under a hanger to explore. What the ding dong heck England! Pick up your toy before some one steals it
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
Do you think India went after Russian weaponry by choice? The West was always more favourable to Pakistan. Do read up on Task Force 74 when you have the time which is one of the many reasons why India is so reluctant to align with the US (and therefore to some extent their allies as well).
History aside, the Royal Navy was participating with the Indian Navy in exercises when this incident happened. Not just that, the airport which the F35 landed in is actually the HQ of the IAF Southern Air Command. Even so, the IAF quickly approved the landing in Trivandrum and the aircraft was on the ground within 8 minutes of first contact with Trivandrum ATC.
PartyDrama08@reddit
Lmaooo this comment shows your knowledge about geopolitics/military alliances, The Indian Navy and the Royal Navy have exercises together in the Konkan region (where this plane is parked) and the F35 comes to airshows in India, most recently the AeroIndia, so if they wanted to send the data to the Russians it would already be in their hands by now.
FrostingPowerful5461@reddit
Where’s Clarkson with his Grand Tour tent when you need him /
senpahII@reddit
In a worst case scenario, where this aircraft cannot be repaired or isn't airworthy, what will RAF do?
Will they lift the entire thing away?
Disassemble and take it away?
Or destroy it on Indian soil?
BiriyaniMonster@reddit
Disassembling and taking it away is the most sensible option.
MadjLuftwaffe@reddit
Probably take the whole thing away in a big cargo plane.
RevolvingCheeta@reddit
Can they not hire one of those sky cranes or even get a super stallion to sling load it to a ship?
I know the logistics must be a nightmare without having those assets in theatre.
Mackey_Corp@reddit
Why is it still there? I thought it ran out or was low on fuel. So presumably they just needed a fill up, does it take some special fuel that India doesn’t have or something? And if that’s the case why hasn’t the RN flown in some fuel so it can leave? I’m clearly missing part of the story here.
BiriyaniMonster@reddit
As per the same journalist who is mentioned in the post, the plane has some mechanical issues. It was refueled on the same day or the next day, I can't recall correctly.
eldelshell@reddit
So tiny out there all alone.
Tenkayalu@reddit
June is the start of Monsoon in Trivendrum, and it will continuously rain til the end of July/mid-August. This is going to be interesting.
db_newer@reddit
Will it fit in a C-130?
i_needsourcream@reddit
It won't even fit in a C17 with the wings intact. C5 yes.
BladyPiter@reddit
I knew that C5 is huge, but DAMN SON.
i_needsourcream@reddit
Everyone (including me) has the same reaction my man.
AceNova2217@reddit
No
Prid@reddit
Confused. Why haven’t they just put some juice in it and flown it away yet? It’s been there nearly a week I think?
Vamana1@reddit
The pilot is enjoying the monsoon in India.
borokish@reddit
They've lost the keys.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Someone call the lockpicking lawyer
ResolutionFair8307@reddit
Lockpick’d Martin Co.
ZICRON1C@reddit
They have some technical problems, not just fuel
RdtRanger6969@reddit
The Lonliest Lightning 2.
nischalsharma07@reddit
Showing off ?
CaerusChaos@reddit
Why doesn't the UK military fly in a C17 and transport it back?
ketchup1345@reddit
You'd need to disassemble the wings to make it fit. And realistically you'd want a C-5M or an AH-124.
AceNova2217@reddit
Doesn't fit
FMC_Speed@reddit
It was a part of the raid on Iran?
__DraGooN_@reddit
Nah. The British aircraft carrier was in India for some naval exercise.
FMC_Speed@reddit
I see, thanks
Sasikuttan2163@reddit
No, it was participating in exercises with the Indian Navy in the Arabian Sea
Antique_Tale_2084@reddit
It's stealth, you can't see it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
XOrionTheOneX@reddit
Well, Air India does have a recently freed up large hangar
CeleritasLucis@reddit
Too soon bro, too soon
wolftick@reddit
It'll be a good impromptu wet weather test.
Ricerat@reddit
"Don't fkn touch it do look at it don't breathe near it"