ULPT Request: How can 17-year-olds get a hotel

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Tasty_Pea6395@reddit

Check the hotel. You said "almost" which isn't "always". And if not then just lie. Or steal ur parents phone number and email and account. That probably will work better. Have fun!

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b1ondestranger@reddit

Some hotels let you check in using their app- you never have to go to the front door. I’ve done it at two airport Hilton’s.

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TJNel@reddit

Use your parents Hilton account to check in and get a digital key.

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dinkinflickas@reddit

Just stayed in one last week, I’m a member. You still have to stop by front desk and show ID.

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brittm1290@reddit

Not a guarantee to work. I’ve stayed at Hilton properties and sometimes the app tells me I need to go to the front desk when I attempt to check in digitally.

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TJNel@reddit

Have the parent put the kid as a guest and then go down and get a key. Your dad is out getting food and the app isn't working.

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saplinglearningsucks@reddit

some hotels require an ID of the person who booked the hotel.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

Not if they are obviously children - I worked for Hilton for over a decade and was a director. I don’t ID kids for room keys not with being screamed at by the parents.

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One-Significance7853@reddit

So, if someone knows that a person is staying at a Hilton with their child, they just need to send a child to the front desk to ask for a new room key? That seems like an obvious security gap.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

Y’all live online way too much. Yes because all criminals have access to children to send to front desks to demand keys to rooms. Like ?

Touch some grass dude - this isn’t a spy thriller.

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One-Significance7853@reddit

Of course, no parents that have kids commit crimes, no uncles or aunts are criminals, and criminals would never kidnap or purchase a child.

Did you seriously just suggest that people who commit crimes can’t access children? Obviously you shouldn’t have kids, we have enough low IQ people as it is.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

You must be Q-anon or republican - I’ve never encountered a purchased child.

And as far as parents or guardians using kids to commit crimes. That’s why Hilton has the legal time and insurance for stupid shit like this.

Like for gods sake all these anime nerds got to do is give the name, address, and phone number and if the deal agent is cosplaying as a Q anon conspiracy theorist they can get a room key. Jesus tap dancing Christ.

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One-Significance7853@reddit

Nobody said this was common, it’s just an obvious security gap that could be exploited.

It’s very strange how defensive you have been regarding this. It’s very obvious that giving a room key to someone without ID is a potential security risk, and it’s insane to argue otherwise.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

you ever hear of probability? we can talk all day about bad parents, weird uncles, and child traffickers.

at the end of the day - like I said before: Parents check in digital key, youngest member of the anime group says mommy and daddy left them their without a key, they give the name, address, and phone number on file, god speed.

As far as this security exploit you found? prove me wrong find 1 case on google where this crime has happened to someone.

Bottom line - this is extremely low probability. I am not going to be a creep and second guess a literal child at the front desk thinking OMG what if they are an accomplice in a crime?

Crawl back to your Q-Anon side of reddit and say hi to Jim Cavielzel for me.

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BilllisCool@reddit

You’re not gonna find examples of this security exploit because nobody is giving away keys to someone just because they have a name, phone number, and address these days at any reputable place. Maybe some random motel or something, but there’s plenty of examples of human trafficking taking place at those. You may have done it, but you’re correct that nefarious activity is rare overall, so nothing ever happened. If everyone was doing it, some examples might start popping up.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

all i heard was "I can't find 1 example on this thing happening so I am going to reassert what I said before," time to turn off the computer.

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BilllisCool@reddit

I haven’t said anything to you before. I’m also using a phone.

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

They’re probably not going to be staying at the Hilton

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jtfarabee@reddit

You mean Kevin’s strategy in Home Alone 2 is a rare instance of a movie thing working in real life?

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

LMAO! omg that made me laugh. Yes? I mean it was probably even easier in 1992.

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cheesenuggets2003@reddit

Counter-point: Donald Trump is even more relevant now.

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UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit

Your post or comment was removed for violating rule 12: No politics.

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Backpacker7385@reddit

You’re assuming they were already checked in, right? Would you check in a kid without a parent present?

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

You didn’t read the comments above - they checked in with digital key 🔑 on the app.

“Hey mom and dad checked in via the app but digital key isn’t working. They have gone out can I have a key to my room”

Again obvious kid I’d give them a key

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Backpacker7385@reddit

No, you didn’t read above. They attempted to check in on the app and it didn’t work, and they were directed to the front desk to complete check in. I’ve had this happen many times.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

Holy crap - yeah I know - as long as the credit card works and they give the parents name on file like address and phone number - they can still get a key and complete check in.

Seriously y’all make this way over complicated for no reason.

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Backpacker7385@reddit

I would guarantee you are violating Hilton policy. If I can’t get a room key to my room as a lifetime diamond member without showing ID, I’d be really pissed to see a 17 year old get handed one.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

Seriously ? WOW ok

If you work at Hilton they need to terminate you and go with someone else

Diamond guests you never ID them it’s part of their privilege for speedy check ins, those asshole literally get offended if you ask for their credit card. They call diamond desk, take your name, then you find yourself adding 10,000 points to their Hilton account. Diamond privilege is stating their name - they get their key and they go on their way.

What policy ? Do you not know the difference between franchise and corporate policy ? Do yourself a favor and call the diamond desk and they will say exactly as I laid out above.

And finally - my caveat was if they LOOKED LIKE A CHILD - like holy shit pick the youngest member of the damn group to say mommy and daddy left them there and got locked out of the room.

Like bruh if you were on my staff I would have fired you immediately for being so rigid. You act like policy can’t be flexible ? That’s the whole point of diamond to through your weight because you spend six figures at hotels 🏨 and get special privileges. If you do work at hotels - you def never made it to management.

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Backpacker7385@reddit

I don’t work at Hilton, I’m a diamond guest. I get ID’d about 50% of the time. Good to know that I can start racking up points every time it happens though, thanks for that tip.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

You’re so cool dude you spend six figures of your companies money to travel for business that you don’t pay for yourself. Like outside of the world of Hilton so you really think you’re THAT Important? Lmao

And you conceded my point - you yourself said even you get ID 50% of the time Witch proves me right in the end 💅

The amount of points you get will never satisfy the diamond size ego you have - have fun being a corporate slave and NEVER seeing your family. As a diamond guy you obviously know that’s 130 nights plus a year right ?

And if your single bruh good luck with any relationship - ain’t no one wants to put up with that kind of travel. In the end diamond guests are the loneliest assholes that stay at Hilton. Take your points :) your life still sucks.

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Backpacker7385@reddit

130 nights? Are you sure you work for Hilton? It’s 60 nights or 30 stays. 30 stays is EASY.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

I’ve retired from Hilton prior to the pandemic so whatever 60 nights ?

Still - you are the exact asshole those desk agents hate. Some person that thinks they are so self important because their diamond and would work the system to get extra points because they got fragile egos. Please realize that no one likes you - just because you spend corporate daddies money doesn’t make you the big shot diamond guy you obviously think you are. Have the plebs grovel at your feet just know on the street you ain’t shit.

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RadioSlayer@reddit

I hate him and I don't even work for Hilton. I just have seen so many people like this at check in

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

you got my point exactly :) thanks luv I was starting to think I was crazy o_O

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Backpacker7385@reddit

Idk what you’re talking about, or why you’re projecting so hard. I said I’ve never asked for bonus points or complained, I didn’t even know that was a thing you could do.

I’m glad you’re not in the industry anymore. Checking people in without ID is how people get trafficked.

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Colombian_Vice@reddit

Sure :) you haven’t - Mr diamond guy

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RadioSlayer@reddit

You're so cool dude.

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TJNel@reddit

Only time that I have seen that was when I wasn't listed as a guest.

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doctorpotterhead@reddit

I used to work for the Hilton and the person getting the first key (at least at my location) had to be the name on the reservation with an ID or you can kick rocks.

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Braves1313@reddit

Hilton made me provide ID a few weeks ago

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idontknowkungfu@reddit

Home alone 2, lost in New York style 👍

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willclerkforfood@reddit

“Heeeeeelllllloooooo. IIIIIIII aaaaaaaammmmm theeeee faaaaaaaaaaatheeeeeerrrrrrrr.”

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lolpostslol@reddit

I’ve never seen a digital key in a hotel app actually work and I’ve traveled a lot. Aside from one budget hotel in Estonia once

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NorthRoseGold@reddit

Which is so annoying

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foresight310@reddit

Bring a trench coat just in case this happens, so two or three of you can pretend to be a parent…

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JustPlainRude@reddit

I tried this for the first time yesterday and the app did in fact tell me to check in at the front desk.

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Aggravating-Exit-660@reddit

This. I’m old and after a 6 hour flight it’s fucking annoying

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akos_beres@reddit

Same at Marriott properties

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cmb211@reddit

ya this won't work. Hilton still makes you check in and give an ID for who the reservation is under.

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Clear-Implement-9290@reddit

No guarantee it will happen. I am middle aged and they have required me to check in at the desk.

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callthecopsat911@reddit

Slight ULTP answer: Get an Airbnb with self-check in.

Non-ULTP answer: Before booking, ask hotels if they'll take a parental consent letter.

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Cultural-Midnight807@reddit

Airbnb is starting to ask for an id now I don’t know if it’s an age things?

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Tangboy50000@reddit

In fact many have cameras outside that they use just to verify who is coming and going. I guarantee if the parents use their ID and then the owner/property manager sees 4 young boys show up, they’ll be over there in a flash to kick them out.

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DontBeASnowflayk@reddit

Not if the CC has the parent’s matching the DL…

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MarshmelloBird@reddit

Parents rent airbnb under their name, and then they can go. Or have parent put the hotel room under their name and ask them if it's okay if their daughter checks into the room before they get there. I doubt they will check later to see if the parents came.

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callthecopsat911@reddit

Simple, OP give his ID and a parent's ID. They're in on it anyway.

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Cultural-Midnight807@reddit

True

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Ok_Tap7102@reddit

That's convenient about how to get the parental consent letter, I already call ChatGPT "daddy" anyways 🥵

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rgmundo524@reddit

Underneath your weird statement you make a good point. It's just a strange way to say it.

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jwizzie410@reddit

Who needs chat GPT to write a note of permission? “Dear hotel, we are the parents of child name. By singing this paper, we give our child express permission to check into this hotel for the purpose of visiting anime expo with their friends. Signed, parent one parent two.”

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rgmundo524@reddit

You are underestimating how dumb people are

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jwizzie410@reddit

It’s an autocorrect typo you dumb fuck. You wouldn’t actually write that out. People don’t need ChatGPT to fucking comment on Reddit without making a typo you fucking dunce. Read this comment in all its glory as it was written by a human that fucking hates ChatGPT.

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DarDarPotato@reddit

“By singing this paper…”

Well, you definitely didn’t use anything to check your work. Bravo

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simcowking@reddit

Typos feel human.

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DarDarPotato@reddit

A nervous kid walks up with his friends standing a distance that deem to be far enough away.

“Hu hu hii. I’d like to check in….”

“Sure, is a parent with you? We need someone over the age of 18 to verify the reservation.”

“U-u-uh my mom signed this note. She said it’s ok…”

Ahhh fuck it, typos happen. Let em in boys!

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simcowking@reddit

I mean a few hotels do have policies for this.

They're not going to be the Hamptons or Hiltons of the world, but you can find them occasionally.

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DarDarPotato@reddit

Yeah, when I was 17, it was the motels.

Shit changed so hard after Covid though.

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jwizzie410@reddit

You seem really dumb and stupid.

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jwizzie410@reddit

I mean that’s how it would be done without an official form from the hotel right?

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DarDarPotato@reddit

Yes, by singing.

🎤🎶

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virgildastardly@reddit

are you 14? this is the edgiest and most self jerking thing I've seen this morning bro

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DarDarPotato@reddit

Your stupidity fuels me.

A kid, circle jerking about writing their own permission slip, making a typo, and criticizing AI.

Seriously, I fucking love it. Go on.

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jwizzie410@reddit

You seem really dumb and stupid.

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bondjimbond@reddit

Using LLMs all the time is literally making people dumber. Possibly this person really couldn't write a note without GPT assistance.

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Worried_Noise5207@reddit

r/DownvotedToOblivion

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Arctimon@reddit

Wtf are you talking about?

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doctorpotterhead@reddit

Seek help

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ImpactAffectionate86@reddit

What

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NorthRoseGold@reddit

Airbnb is often 25!

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Gutsyglitzy@reddit

i lived out of an airbnb at 18. YMMV

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Living_Ad_8941@reddit

r/unexpectedfactorial

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YearOutrageous2333@reddit

I’m under 25 and have booked numerous AirBNBs.

But… I wouldn’t bet on a group of minors being able to book one. That’s a pretty prime group for “might be loud as fuck and destroy your house,” behaviors.

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Gsgshap@reddit

I recently rented an Airbnb that had a 25+ requirement but I didn't see it in the description so I booked it. I'm under 25 but they never asked for ID and I booked it and used it without a hitch.

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Adventurous_Bonus917@reddit

i seriously doubt the age requirement for AirBNB is 1.551121e+25

r/unexpectedfactorial

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garden_dragonfly@reddit

What about hotel check in by phone key?

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tr3d3c1m@reddit

Find Airbnb's or Vrbo's you're interested in, reach out to the renter and explain the situation. A family member of mine was in this exact situation and they found a renter willing to rent to them.

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LettuceDirl310@reddit

Have someone's parents find an old friend/colleague/relative in the LA area to do it for you.

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hereforthehentai6969@reddit

What I did at 17 was took a picture of my id then photoshopped it to make me 20 and then told the front desk worker that I forgot my id and only had a picture and I had a reservation

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Miami_Mice2087@reddit

a lot of hotels have self check-in, they might call it phone check-in or check-in from the car or personless checkin

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shatteredkisses@reddit

Offer a homeless guy outside $10 to check in for you

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BuddyBrownBear@reddit

AirBnB

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NeutralCombatant@reddit

Open carry a pistol while you check in.

No one cards me for alcohol when I’m openly carrying but I’m young enough to get carded when I’m not.

Bonus unethical points if firearms/open carry are illegal wherever you’re going

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EarlVanDorn@reddit

Restaurants and bars where I live won't serve you alcohol if you are carrying.

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NeutralCombatant@reddit

Who said anything about bars?

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grandinosour@reddit

That is the law in many areas.

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Expert-Catch1377@reddit

Stay at a hostel. Your parents just fill out a simple form-

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insomniaddict91@reddit

Airbnb might be a better option. Hotels are gonna check ID.

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iHateReddit_srsly@reddit

Yup, and just dress like a working adult, say you're there for work, and hope they don't question your age

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ImpactAffectionate86@reddit

‘I am a man who has moved to the local area’

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Pale-Dust2239@reddit

They gotta make ride on each other’s shoulders whilst wearing a trench coat to get the full effect of being an adult.

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AVdev@reddit

“Vincent …. Adultman. I do business… transactions. I went to stock market today. I did a business.”

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betcaro@reddit

Art Vandalay?

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Dull_Investigator358@reddit

Importer-Exporter

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burghblast@reddit

It would help if they used a fake name that sounds older, too. Like Violet Adultwoman.

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Toledojoe@reddit

Every reputable hotel asks for ID.

They need to try a disreputable hotel.

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Just--kiddin@reddit

Gotta pay by the hour, but they would let a dog rent the room if it tried. Check out the lovely amenities like a door with bullet holes you can see through and patchy carpet where they had to change out the bloodstained section.

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cheesenuggets2003@reddit

Well suggesting that minors find a disreputable hotel, particularly in L.A., is definitely ULPT.

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RoninOni@reddit

I’ve rarely had to even interact with anyone for an Airbnb… it’s usually enter some code to open the lockbox with the key in it.

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NorthRoseGold@reddit

Yeah but you need to use an id to even get an airbnb account AND most of them have outside cameras

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

Did you miss the bit where their parents said it’s ok? They will just use the parents ID

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

They’re a group of 17 year old anime nerds, they’re gonna be clocked from a mile away

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disisathrowaway@reddit

I think I've only met an AirBnB host twice total in all the years I've been using it, and that was when it first started up - one of which was because I was renting a room for a night.

Otherwise if I've rented out a whole spot, they just give me the code for the door/key box and then a few texts.

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fattrackstar@reddit

dress like a working adult

They are going to an anime convention. Most of the working adults going will be wearing shirts with cartoon characters or silk shirts with dragons on them. Might want to specify to dress like a working adult that's not going to an anime convention.

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tostuo@reddit

Seifuku uniform with thigh highs, but wearing a business tie and a suitcase

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NorthRoseGold@reddit

No. To you sign up you need to provide identification and also many individual places require age 25 to rent.

In addition, most have outside cameras to make sure you're not bringing 20 extra people inside

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

They can use one of their parents ID, as long as the parent is young enough and they don’t look obviously different no one is going to study the camera footage and the ID that deeply

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5e0295964d@reddit

Is this a country specific thing?

I had a similar worry when I was 17 and booked a hotel - they didn't ask for ID. If they'd asked, I'd have just said I didn't have it on me at the moment

I can't remember any time I've been asked for ID in any establishment except for ones that sell alcohol

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mesembryanthemum@reddit

Many places in the US are 21 and up to check in; my hotel is. It's a legal liability thing.

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ChicagFro@reddit

Also will require a credit card on file for incidentals.

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bigdave41@reddit

I'm pretty sure Kevin McAllister got away with it, you just need to check in with your dad's credit card and then have an elaborate series of recordings ready in case they try to come spy on you while you're in the shower

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coffeehousebrat@reddit

"You've been smooching with everybody! Snuffy, Al, Leo, Little Moe with the gimpy leg, Cheeks, Bony Bob, Cliff!"

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i_suckatjavascript@reddit

Most credit cards don’t have raised numbers anymore so therefore you can’t use a manual credit card imprinter.

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bigdave41@reddit

Kevin might still have got away with it if he had his dad's PIN - I mean it would technically be fraud even if he had permission, but then it would have been fraud using the imprinter all the same so it wouldn't have made much difference in that scenario.

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brittm1290@reddit

Credit card? You got it!

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danielbearh@reddit

Ccccrrreeeedddiiitttt cccaaaarrrdddd? Yyyooouuu ggggoootttt itttttt!

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JustAVirusWithShoes@reddit

The father

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Aggravating_Act0417@reddit

Hostel?

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CaptainHowdey@reddit

Just need a 18 year old friend WITHOUT WARRANTS to send in

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

No hotel Is doing a criminal background check/checking for warrants.

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Big_Coyote_655@reddit

You might be surprised at how they catch people running from the feds.

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

Just found this thread that is on point. I still don’t believe any police department is getting real time access to check in logs anywhere. In the USA.

https://www.reddit.com/r/askhotels/s/9s2qO1plrA

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Big_Coyote_655@reddit

Real time would seem difficult to integrate. I'm sure records get pulled when asked with a warrant though.

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

I’m sure police can get records with a warrant too. That’s when they’re looking for someone in particular. I don’t believe any hotel is just sending over names as they’re checking anyone in. And unlikely police are getting a warrant in the span of 4 days over a juvenile (OP said they’re all 17) unless there’s some kind of serious crime alleged. I can’t tell if you’re arguing with me or agreeing with me.

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Big_Coyote_655@reddit

I'm wasting time here instead of doing other things I should be doing like grocery shopping.

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

I got the groceries yesterday but I’m sure there’s something more productive I should be doing!

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

Fair, I’ve never worked in the federal court system. I know that hotels aren’t doing their own criminal background checks but do you think they’re turning over their guest list to the feds in real time? Every hotel? Not saying that is impossible but I’m skeptical that anything is that well organized.

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Big_Coyote_655@reddit

It would probably be an invasion of privacy and likelynot legal. It would be a lot easier to just get bank records to track their spending if they get a warrant. I used to be a night auditor at a hotel and was trained to make sure everyone was who they said they were and to keep accurate records of people coming and going.

Pro tip: always book directly with a hotel you want to stay at as 3rd party booking sites are notorious for overbooking and we always had angry people we had to turn away because of it. It was a lot more common then it should have been. Also always ask for a small discount for when you book directly as almost everyone pays a different price for their room. I think I was allowed to give 15% off for anyone that asked for a discount and we weren't at full capacity or a major event happening in the city.

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

So when you said “you might be surprised at how they catch people running from the feds” were you saying hotels do or don’t run warrant checks at check in?

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Big_Coyote_655@reddit

We had a list of wanted people in the breakroom.

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myseaentsthrowaway@reddit

Makes sense. I think if this 17 year old gang going to an anime convention has a kid on America’s Most Wanted, sure, that’s a risk. But if someone has a warrant for an unpaid speeding ticket they’re probably not on most lists and they’re probably fine to check in to any hotel.

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Rick-l-Sanchez@reddit

Hotels voluntarily share guest info with the police to run against a list of known warranted persons. That is how they caught Chris Chan.

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MC_Cuff_Lnx@reddit

Holy fuck.

Do you know what hotel was doing this specifically?

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Rick-l-Sanchez@reddit

It is literally all of them and they have been doing it for decades.

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CaptainHowdey@reddit

Hey power to anyone who wanna fuck around, but I already found out. All the hotel do is check you into their system, the folk do the rest once a flagged name pings

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Big_Coyote_655@reddit

I highly doubt it. There's just way too much legal liability for them to allow it. I used to work at a hotel. I'm sure there's work arounds but maybe ask the manager ahead of time of your parents can vouch for you and get them to sign a contract and have it notarized? I wouldn't suggest anything without the hotels managers pre-approval first.

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suburban_ennui75@reddit

Hire a prostitute for the sole purpose of checking you in.

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

Or the guy standing outside the closest gas station. Probably could get it done for $5

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Methadoneblues@reddit

What idiot would put their name on a hotel room for a stranger? Liability would fall to them if there's any damage or fees...

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cheesenuggets2003@reddit

I'm not sure what sort of men stand around outside gas stations where you live, but none of them around here have much to lose.

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Methadoneblues@reddit

Lol, well, the same type of men you speak of typically don't have a credit card or enough money in the bank to put it down on a hotel room for some random people.

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

The good news is there are a lot of idiots out there

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bondjimbond@reddit

You'll probably have to pay him a lot more to get him to leave though.

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Op_ulti@reddit

He’s gonna close the door and tell the hotel to remove the kids

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cheesenuggets2003@reddit

Or he'll close the door with the kids inside.

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spycodernerd2048@reddit

💀💀💀

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mets2016@reddit

That’s way more than $5 worth of hassle lol

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

People who hang around gas stations tend to take what money they can get and dealing with check-in when you’re underage is often a bitch

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akos_beres@reddit

What could go wrong?

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randy24681012@reddit

Holden Caulfield type shit

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3PoundsOfFlax@reddit

Or a hobo. Just clean him up a little 🥰

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1ofaKind_1@reddit

I could see the guy stealing the credit card and never making it to the front desk :-)

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suburban_ennui75@reddit

Fascinating that you defaulted into thinking this would be a guy-prostitute

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1ofaKind_1@reddit

Oh, sorry. I used "guy" as a generalization because people were saying to get a homeless "guy." I should have said "person."

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PlsNoPics@reddit

Next ULPT: How do I order a prostitute as a 17 y/o?

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tacoreddit@reddit

This is why we come to this sub

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TheJokersWild53@reddit

Do you write for Curb your Enthusiasm?

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suburban_ennui75@reddit

Larry is generally right

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Blade-Controvesial@reddit

This will not work unless her name is on the reservation

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TheBelgianDuck@reddit

The real LPT

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fattrackstar@reddit

You could get a homeless person to help you check into a cheap run down motel if you offer them some cash. But regular hotels are going to expect a id and credit card with matching names.

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

Great idea, tell a homeless adult that a group of kids with credit cards are staying there without parents

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fattrackstar@reddit

I didn't say it was the best idea, just one that might work. I'm sure i did dumber shit than that growing up.

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ItzMaerie@reddit

If you know anyone else who is going to, who is above 21, maybe you could ask them to book it for you and check you in. I used to do that for my stbx’s brother and friend. In my experience, motels. I tried getting a hotel at before 21 twice and it was literally calling around until I found a place willing.

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

Stbx? Soon to be ex?

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ItzMaerie@reddit

Yeah. I’m getting divorced right now

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coldpornproject@reddit

Fake id

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thejerseyguy@reddit

You're minors. This is going to end with police and CPS no matter that your parents are cool. Grow up, try again. Your parents are morons.

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Healthy_Brain5354@reddit

CPS isnt going to do anything because parents let a group of nerds who are almost 18 go to an anime convention.

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RipCurl69Reddit@reddit

Having to be 21 to check into a hotel is so fucking stupid. It's only an issue in the US. We're from the UK and have travelled to the other side of Europe solo before we were 20. No issues at all.

Life experiences (yes, even going to an anime expo) shouldn't be blocked off because of some dumbshit age requirement to have accommodation.

OP just get an airbnb and be done with it

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thejerseyguy@reddit

No they can't. I don't know why I'm getting down voted, it's the truth, nothing more. Trust me, they do this and they get caught it will not end well for them and especially their parents. They can't even get through TSA at the airport without a guardian, I don't know how they're going to fly.

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RipCurl69Reddit@reddit

It's the truth yeah, and I'm still telling you it's incredibly stupid.

To add, airbnb is even worse. LA has a requirement to be 25 years old to book a reservation.

OP is SoL for another eight years. How sad

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gordonf23@reddit

Have you seen “Home Alone 2”?

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2bciah5factng@reddit

Tbh I’ve gotten plenty of hotels around LA when I was 17 and they never gave me any trouble. Just book it and show your ID upon arrival like everyone else. No need for a ULPT.

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dracotrapnet@reddit

Airbnb never checks ID. A parent could schedule and pay and nobody knows.

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lemonhader@reddit

Cash

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Scary_Tap6448@reddit

Ulpt someone needs a fake ID, they're not going to check it that hard if it's just for the purpose of checking in and not for alcohol purchases

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Videoroadie@reddit

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Jellyfish0107@reddit

Pitch a tent on the sidewalk. No one is gonna blink twice.

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JulieThinx@reddit

I believe you won't trash the place, I've seen what ya'll doing at cons and it is adorable.

We (as parents) made our kids Anime-Con reservations ahead of time in our name. We called the hotel and talked to a counter agent. We explained the situation and that the kids had our permission. Our kid did have to present the card with the name from the reservation, but a couple phone calls by the parents can smooth the whole thing out. Basically, we trusted our kids and put ourselves on the line for it.

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BananaNo9@reddit

I guess times are a changin. We (a bunch of 17-18 year olds in 2000) booked TWO condos for our senior trip and managed to stay 6 of the 7 days before being found out and kicked out by the owners at 6am the second to last day. It only took one of our parents calling and booking it, and requesting after hours arrival where they hid the key for us.

I’d say look for independent property rentals that will allow similar situations. Message Airbnb owners requesting late arrivals.

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CosmicallyF-d@reddit

Maybe you could stay at a hostel?

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wireswires@reddit

Or a cheap motel - unlikely to give a fuck

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patrick-latinahunter@reddit

I tried to stay at a cheap motel with my gf at age 17. They absolutely gave a fuck and denied us

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Hot-Win2571@reddit

No, they did not give a fuck.

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k0unitX@reddit

One occurrence of an underage prostitute in your hotel and you're gone forever. Especially underage women they really, really give a fuck.

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Quallityoverquantity@reddit

Lol tried to get your freak on huh? Should've just used your car

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patrick-latinahunter@reddit

We did plenty of car sex but it got old. We wanted to drink wine and have lots of incredible sex, not the regular ol lame car sex

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__thrillho@reddit

Username checks out

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patrick-latinahunter@reddit

Does it?

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wireswires@reddit

Sample size = 1

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patrick-latinahunter@reddit

So I’m only allowed to share my life experiences if they’re backed up by a double blind trial with tons of random participants?

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thotchoco@reddit

Are hostels still available thing?

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daddyforurissues@reddit

use a parents app to make hotel reservation (one of them had to be a frequent business traveler right?). put their kids name in the reservation.

kid downloads the hotel app on their phone with the parents login.
do online check in

kid requests a digital key.

skip the front desk go right up to the room.

be confident, like you belong, because your do.

don't do anything stupid.

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prrrfectly@reddit

Can you go on the local Next Door group or some other neighborhood social media and offer to house/dog sit for a local? You could also check out https://www.nomador.com/ for house sitting opportunities.

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holdenpattern@reddit

I can book you guys a hotel and check you in if you want

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variousnewbie@reddit

You're either really ignorant of the liability you'd be exposed to for doing this, or are offering for your own unethical interests.

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amanuensisninja@reddit

or are offering for your own unethical interests

I mean, this is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. It’s written on the label!

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variousnewbie@reddit

At least they deleted it! I wanted to make sure I pointed out the possibility, in case the OP didn't recognize. Wouldn't want someone to contact this person and be taken advantage of. Hopefully they honestly didn't realize the liability, and thus deleted the offer.

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PadmesBabyDaddy@reddit

Or both.

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ThrowingMongo@reddit

I can book you guys a hotel and check you in if you want, I'm not a pedo or anything like that, nothing to worry about.

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Wonka824@reddit

Grow a beard and drop your balls

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Affectionate_Reveal5@reddit

Speaking from experience university dorms become hotels during the summer and are extremely lax in policy. That used to be my go to when I was a minor.

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Jurakhan@reddit

Cash money at a motel. No questions asked.

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Indimationn@reddit

I work in housekeeping, not management, but I'd just contact a few hotels nearby and explain the situation- say most of you are close to 18, you'll provide parental consent and their contact info, and you'll be quiet and tidy- and say "fan event" or something like that, convention guests can be a problem so better to call it something else lol. Decent chance at least one of them will be accommodating if you sound polite

Good luck!! I hope you have fun :)

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OutinDaBarn@reddit

Try a place with hourly rates, they never ask.

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Embarrassed_Tea7308@reddit

Just get a motel instead

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Mirrored_Lenses@reddit

This is super easy. Sign up for rewards program with Hilton or Marriott. Download the app. Book and check in online and select digital key. Use your phone as room key and never even go to the desk.

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wafflecocks7@reddit

make a post on the anime con’s socials and someone will help you out. its normal to stack like 15 ppl to a room bro so get comfy with cuddling on the floor

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SprinklesSignal9308@reddit

Fake ID? They don’t scan them just look at them.

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throwaway_apologies@reddit

Off-topic reply, but I’m proud of your grammar and sentence structure! I mean this sincerely- not to be condescending or anything. Good luck on your trip! - dad of a 19 and 16 year old.

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stegasaurusnext@reddit

The em dashes are a give away that it was written by ChatGPT

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throwaway_apologies@reddit

Haha. I’ve been bamboozled!

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theirgoober@reddit

It’s not a 100% sign that it was written by AI. I’m 19 and I use EM dashes often because I’m a writer. They’re my favorite kind of punctuation for sure, and it sucks that AI has given them such a bad rep.

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stegasaurusnext@reddit

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree. I do too. I'd argue though that most use an en dash when typing when they technically should be using em dash. Em dash isn't as natively easy on most keyboards as an en dash, and I'd wager that many people wouldn't even know how to create an em dash. The fact that em dashes are popping up through ChatGPT is a giveaway now. Maybe OP went to the effort of em dashes, but I do doubt it. For me it's a giveaway that it was probably AI

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stegasaurusnext@reddit

Oh and for those wondering, em dash is the longer one — and is the width of an m. En dash is shorter - the width of an n. Em dashes are often used to replace commas, colons or parentheses, en dash to seperate values (like 9-10 days ago) or can be thought of as replacing the word "to" like "we walked home-work"

iPhone users can use the en dash twice without a space to create em dash on the iOS keyboard — have fun!

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theirgoober@reddit

Fair, you are right about that. I typically have to copy and paste the EM dash when I want to use it.

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NorthRoseGold@reddit

Stahhhpppp

No

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bonoetmalo@reddit

The comment isn’t so much condescending as it is confusing lol. OP didn’t say they were a foreigner or anything, did they?

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throwaway_apologies@reddit

Nope. Just stated they were a young person. So I related their age with my own young people. And I was impressed. That’s it.

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bonoetmalo@reddit

Fair nuff. I’d say most 17 year olds are at that level but I’m not a dad so maybe I’m wrong

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ggcpres@reddit

Your best bet is to get someone 18+to come with.

Hotels are really aggressive about trespassing people, and you could end up banned from the entire chain, not just that location.

So you need someone who has a payment card that matches their 18+ ID to come with. On the upside, that's one more person to cut the costs with.

So I'm sorry, but in good conscience I have to recommend that at least one member of your party have an 18+ ID that matches their payment card.

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OverallManagement824@reddit

Just go to the creepiest part of town and look for creepy old guys cruising around. Ask them to get a hotel for you. Should be easy. /s

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foolforfucks@reddit

Are your parents able to come with you to check you in? That's the main thing you need them for.

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Sum-Duud@reddit

Have your parents reserve the hotel and associate their rewards app to the reservation. Check in through the app. I have check in at the front desk of maybe 1 hotel of 10-15 that I’ve stayed at over the last 2-3 years. Automated check in and check out makes things so easy.

I typically stay at hotels in the Hilton or Marriott chains and they usually have digitals keys through the app on my phone.

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PuffedRabbit@reddit

At 16 I checked in at a shady af motel while visiting the US.

Would not actively recommend this approach, but you overestimate the oversight in a lot of places.

Afterword: bring earplugs, specially if the room next to you gets occupied (shudders).

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Technical-Bad7075@reddit

Ill help you crazy kids out. Pm me

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Raraavisalt434@reddit

"Hotel Mobile Check-In: The Complete Guide | Cvent Blog" https://www.cvent.com/en/blog/hospitality/hotel-mobile-check-in#:~:text=How%20do%20I%20use%20mobile,use%20hotel%20mobile%20check%2Din? Hilton uses Mobile Check in. You need to join there members club. Your phone is your room key. Have fun!

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whyamihere1969@reddit

Some Hilton properties do online check-in with mobile key. No need to even see the front desk They even advertise that.

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NorthRoseGold@reddit

Works like poo

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whyamihere1969@reddit

Your mileage may vary! I had great results recently for a property down in Burbank, CA. Not that it would have been horrible for me to interact with front desk humans. just thought it was cool, that I didn’t have to.

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brittm1290@reddit

Yeah but there have been times I try to check in on the app and I get a prompt saying I have to go to the front desk to complete check in. Kinda defeats the purpose of digital check in/key😒

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Clear-Implement-9290@reddit

Same

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IamTheAsian@reddit

Lmao, I was in this exact situation for AX when I was 17 and just asked a guy in the lobby to check in posing as my guardian

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S1anda@reddit

I have never had an issue with my parents booking the room in their name, then I show up and present my ID and inform them I am their child. As long as the last names are the same it works most of the time. The worst ive had happen is I had to call my parent and have them confirm over the phone that they were real and I did in fact have permission. You might want to only have one of you go to check in, then have the others walk to ur room after a delay and you let them in. I'm sure a clerk would rather make an exception for a single child, then a group of teenagers.

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Adventurous_Bonus917@reddit

almost all reputable hotels check ID. try a disreputable hotel. (no, seriously. any "good" shady motel has only two rules: 1. pay for the room 2. at least try to cover up damage you cause)

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thefanum@reddit

As a homeless teen, We used to make friends with the front desk people. Slip them a 20, sometimes they'll look the other way

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DifferentIsPossble@reddit

Ethical life pro tip: get your parents involved in booking it.

Unethical life pro tip: can be any adult really.

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ValuableShoulder5059@reddit

Have your parents book it, with the note you will be the one checking in.

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sahdow@reddit

Try to find a youth hostel

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sassy_castrator@reddit

Youth hostels are real things. They're for youth, literally.

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sluttychurros@reddit

Look through the comments in the Hilton or Marriot subreddits for the locations in/around LA that will let you mobile check in and use your phone as a key, without stopping by the front desk. Most Hiltons will also let you pick your own room. Pick a room as far away from the elevator/close to the stairs as possible, so you’re not being seen often. Put the do not disturb sign on the front of the room when you arrive.

Ideally when you arrive, take a side entrance and take the stairs to your room. If a group of high schoolers arrives with no parent on sight, you might not make it past the lobby. If you checked in and got your mobile key, you can open the side entrances and then just walk up the stairs to your room. Or walk down the hallway to your elevator, most elevators aren’t within direct sight of the front desk staff.

Good luck!

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Hiker_girl828@reddit

Hostel + patental permission is your answer, OP.

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lolpostslol@reddit

Kid totally gonna dye himself in the hotel bathtub for a cosplay

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nyancatdude@reddit

Go south to Tijuana instead

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survivalinsufficient@reddit

Pay a homeless person to be your adult.

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Kallumazoo@reddit

Can you get your parents to book an Airbnb for you? Not really ethical, but I think that would be easiest.

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holy_trout@reddit

Booking.com should be fine, get one of your parents to make the booking. 99% of the time I never meet the host or anyone

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doyaloveme@reddit

Airbnb or VRBO

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Competitive-Yard-442@reddit

OP is going to an anime expo and plans to shower?

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GotGRR@reddit

They all plan to shower tomorrow.

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Competitive-Yard-442@reddit

Yes "tomorrow"

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__thrillho@reddit

"shower"

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metalflygon08@reddit

"They all"

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idontknowkungfu@reddit

"plan"

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Socratic_Tantrum9177@reddit

“.”

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Dragonbreath800@reddit

Yeah this is where I’m calling bs on this post, I think op is karma farming

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pigman769@reddit

I took approximately 13 seconds to look at their profile and it seems legit 🤷‍♀️

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Sigiz@reddit

r/Woosh

They are joking.

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rimjob_steve_@reddit

r/itswhooooshwith4os

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pigman769@reddit

Idk. That one was kinda convincing for me

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ahandmadegrin@reddit

/r/WooshX2

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VecroLP@reddit

anime expo

shower

Sure OP

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PM_ME_ANYTHING_DAMN@reddit

Choose one

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cloudiron@reddit

Have your parents (an adult) call to book. Had this same issue when I was 19! It was insane and had no idea that was the law so ended up stranded.

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Mommyof11@reddit

Not only did Best Western allow me to book a room for my minor kid? They let me pay with my credit card. All I had to do was some paperwork.

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Pristine_Ad_1083@reddit

Could parents help book an Airbnb or similar?

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Straight-Repeat-7439@reddit

Year ago I worked in a hotel in NYC and a 17 year old Kaia Gerber tried to check in with a friend. When I told them they were too young to check in and explained why, she fully crashed out, asked me if I knew who her mother was. And told me that her father was going to ensure I lost my job because he was a VIP at that particular hotel. When I calmly informed her that non of that mattered were obligated because this luxury hotel does not have locked minibars in rooms etc so checking her in made alcohol readily available to her, she crashed out further, started crying and screaming and making a scene. Eventually a manager came out and let her check in after he spoke to one of her parents on the phone. So you could always do that.../s

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pastaeater2000@reddit

Hilton or Marriott do mobile key. Have your parents make a reservation in their name, add you to the room, then check in online. You head to the desk get physical keys and be on your way. Note: this doesn't always work as new members, special rates, and certain payment methods require presenting an ID at the desk to check in.

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ReindeerRoyal4960@reddit

IDK if any of your parents are *Hilton Honors members, but when you book through the app, you get a digital key to your room, so you never have checkin with anyone. You can just go straight to your room

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rutoca@reddit

Rewatch Home alone 2

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ditzen@reddit

Loads of hotels nowadays allow you to check in with your phone and even use your phone as a key. You never have to speak to the front desk in person.

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akos_beres@reddit

That’s not always the case.

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Escape_Various_@reddit

This is true, the hotel I work for advertises that we have it but it doesn't work and people end up coming to the front desk anyway. Yes, we get a lot of complaints lol.

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ditzen@reddit

Oof, that sucks

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gpbst3@reddit

Does the hotel offer digital room keys and check in through their app? Your parents could book the room on your phone and get the digital key

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tasteless@reddit

If you have the Hilton app you can check in via your phone.

I'd watch Home Alone 2 for more tips and tricks.

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dmolaflare@reddit

Pay a local college kid in the area to check in for you

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iLikeAza@reddit

We had that problem in Vegas but Best Western let us check in no problem. Do you know anyone over 18 going to the expo? Maybe try posting in the subreddit for the expo to see if someone will help

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

Ime Vegas usually wants you to be 21 which was lowkey a bitch in college. I was wondering if 18 or 21 was the cutoff elsewhere

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iLikeAza@reddit

For real it was so hard to find a spot. This was before the internet had tons of info on hotels too. I called the Best Western by the airport & they said we were good. We drove there not knowing if they would actually let us check in

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junkimchi@reddit

Just wanted to say that my friends and I were in the exact same situation when we were in high school. Back then AX was in Anaheim. I completely forgot how we managed to check in and stay at our hotel. I think one of our friends parents checked us in or someone had a fake lol. You have any friends that are 18 that are going? They could check you guys in as well.

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cleaningsolvent@reddit

Anyone have an older sibling lookalike?

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sharkfin5000@reddit

Or a cousin? I gave my younger cousin my ID and we don’t even have the same eye color. Worked like a charm

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sloinmo@reddit

airbnb is the answer.

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Miserable_Smoke@reddit

Find one that charges by the hour.

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1ofaKind_1@reddit

And come home with crabs, bed bugs, and herpes.

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floopyferret@reddit

Sketchy motel lol

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1ofaKind_1@reddit

Sketchy motels have bed bugs. You don't want to take bed bugs home with you.

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well_this_is_dumb@reddit

Whatever you plan, make sure you know if it's 18 or 21 if relevant. Got denied at a hotel when 20 once, that was inconvenient.

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Suspicious_Name9711@reddit

Also do you have a credit card? Most hotels will hold at least double the amount of the stay if you’re using a debit card.

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spaceporter@reddit

AirBNB.

Your parents book it. You’ll get the key from a lockbox.

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natesplace19010@reddit

Get someone on task rabbit.

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tinyevilsponges@reddit

airbnb

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Secret-Weakness-8262@reddit

Use a hotel with digital check in, air b and b, or find a campsite get some tents. Or sleep in a van lol

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dreamchilledlover@reddit

Either look for one that allows online check in and digital room keys on your phone and have a parent do it , or get a Airbnb

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Ok_Work7396@reddit

Unethically, jump on the event socials and find a creep to pay for the room for "favours" then blackmail them for being a pedo.

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flvrf@reddit

Find USC sub leasers on facebook or reddit. Idk if you're familiar with the area but USC is very close to DTLA. Most are looking for month-long subleases but might be open to getting quick money for just a short stay since subleasers are less common this time of the year.

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

Often times a parent can call the hotel for check-in or if the hotel close by the parent can go there, check-in and leave. Not really unethical but if you’re going down that route a fake ID would be the most straightforward

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Specialist_Try3312@reddit

VRBO

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SuspiciousStress1@reddit

I also vote airbnb!

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arbitrageME@reddit

you're going to an anime convention. the shower is optional

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math_rand_dude@reddit

Maybe /r/talesfromthefrontdesk has an active LA frontdesk employee that can help you

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AshalaWolf_27@reddit

Fake id saying you turned 18 earlier this year

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Think_Bullets@reddit

Date a 50/60 year old actor or musician

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variousnewbie@reddit

I did this 😂 but in my case it was actually to check out a University I wanted to go to. Told my mom I was spending the weekend at a friend's house, and went out of state with another friend. I lucked out in that I had a student credit card already. My friend passed for over 21, I looked like a child. He tried first and they asked for ID. Came back real anxious. I changed clothes into a turtleneck sweater and slacks, and went in. I reserved the room under my name, and I just presented my credit card and they probably assumed that was good enough. But this was 20 years ago so way easier!

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