How many had to suck it up and get on with it?
Posted by Inevitable-Key-5200@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 392 comments
How many of yall have also found it kind of grating when the younger generations say that they can’t do X, Y, or Z cuz of their anxiety.
I think our generation both invented and immediately just dealt with anxiety—none of us wanted to do adult shit but eventually we had to suck it up and get on with it. Do subsequent generations not realize that they need to do this or are we just immediately going to some mental health diagnosis that may not exist.
People with legitimate anxiety might be suffering because yall don’t want to talk on the phone and be the adult people that you want to be treated as. So the actual diagnosis of anxiety is being watered down.
OiMyTuckus@reddit
There isn't a trauma they don't love.
I have lifelong anxiety/depression. Very much genetic. I wasn't diagnosed until my 30's.
I forged my personality from an extremely shy, anxious kid to something very different when I started working in the bars. I was so over myself I just said "fuck it" and with the "help"of alcohol and wild ass bartending I forged a relatively positive personality. It's the real me but I needed a crowbar to get it out. The self medicating is in the past but it was a factor that I can't dismiss.
Of course I don't recommend others take this path as there are definitely scars but I worked with what I had.
I'm glad there's more awareness and treatment options but some of the excuses are just ridiculous. I had to fight for my fucking life and some kid says they can't help being late because of some time reading malady (yes, absolutely true).
I can be the life of the party but I need to step away after. I'm not going whinge about it, it's just the way it is.
examinat@reddit
I think we all did! Plus, a lot of us didn’t even have heath insurance in the 90’s, which means I used herbal tea and stuff from the health food store to handle the IBS that come from horrible chronic anxiety.
Fast forward, 2025, and what do you know, both my kids are autistic. And I’m thinking back, realizing: omg, I was just rawdogging life and managing as best as I could, with a whole trauma history and a neurodivergent brain and a cup of mint tea.
It is irritating to me sometimes when kids say they “can’t” do something because of anxiety. Honestly, I think I’m partly just jealous. I’m also sort of triggered: what do you mean, you “can’t”? I would have been homeless if I had taken the route of “can’t”. I’m scared for them, thinking they won’t survive if they live that way.
shackspirit@reddit
I (55) think a lot of us weren’t diagnosed with legitimate issues or disorders, and we treated them with illicit (not prescribed) drugs, alcohol or some other form of anaesthesia or escape. We didn’t get treated…not that that’s always going to help.
I think a lot of autism and adhd and orge things were just not identified when we were young (70s and 80s)
I suspect the pendulum has swung the other way with a lot of overthinking normal life challenges that require resilience, effort, patience and positivity to overcome. But not always. The drug companies and the medical profession have obviously made a lot of money out of this…but at least some of it is justified.
My wife (same age) has generalised anxiety. She just feels anxious, for no good reason. As she’s gotten older she’s been able to recognise it and tell me that that’s just how she’s feeling.
I have an old friend who has the same thing (along with other things) but he just tried to mask it with a lot of drugs, which really took its toll over time. When we were young, I just thought he was wild and loved a good time. I and he now realise what he was doing. I’m lucky he’s still alive.
Great-Wishbone-9923@reddit
I’m like your wife and friend. Just 5 or 6 months ago, and Im 48, I started meds for generalized anxiety.
I’ve commented this several times on Reddit - but I didn’t know other people felt this calm all the time. I thought I was REALLY shit at dealing with life. Nope, I’ve been running full flight or fight for, well, I guess close to 48 years. Over production of cortisol has caused so many somatic issues that have started dropping like flies. Waking with the shakes, always feeling doom, always on edge, constant GI issues, dizzy with no cause for a decade…just gone now.
I drank and smoked a ton of weed to cope before. Cannabis was soooo much more helpful than alcohol, so I quit drinking about 15 years ago. I’m on Effexor now, and still use cannabis (I was a cannabis traveling chef for a while, it’s part of my life I actually enjoy, which isn’t much 😂) as needed for other things.
I still deal with some depression from other past life events, but the Effexor has been amazing. There are some side effects to deal with, and I’ll have to stay on it until i die since my issue is chemical, not behavioral. So - that’s sucks, but I don’t feel on edge all day, every day.
mem0679@reddit
Effexor and Wellbutrin basically saved my life. I didn't realize how bad off I really was until I started taking meds. That's a whole mind fuck in itself! Im case you don't know already, missing just one dose of Effexor can cause pretty intense withdrawal symptoms. A few months ago I ran out but couldn't afford to refill my prescription so I went several days without taking it. I 10/10 don't recommend.
Great-Wishbone-9923@reddit
I appreciate that! My doctor, former therapist, and several friends have warned me about that. When I upped my dose and changed what mg pill I was taking my doctor even told me to keep the smaller ones to have on hand “in case” I end up in a situation like that.
Can you tell me what happened though? When I ask there’s never specifics, just “it’s bad” or it’s horrible “brain zaps” - but nobody gives details. Got any details just so I can understand better?
mem0679@reddit
I second everything Moneypenny said! It's like having extreme hangxiety. I get really shaky and lethargic and my muscles feel twitchy. The brain zaps!!! I didn't know this happened to other people! I thought it was just me, so I've never mentioned it to anyone! I hate them!!!! Sometimes, they're so intense that I almost hit the ground!
My whole body feels like electricity is coursing through it a big part of the time. I attribute that to my adhd and sensory sensitivities instead of the Effexor though. I honestly didn't even recognize that I was feeling it until the first time I took Adderall and realized that I wasn't feeling it anymore. I only take it during work hours, so that's pretty much the only time I don't feel wired up to some degree.
Back to the Effexor withdrawals...the last time I went a few days without it, I ended up having a full blown panic attack. I don't typically don't have a lot of anxiety, so that was definitely out of the ordinary for me. I ended up calling my stepmom and asked her to go pick it up for me. She's a psych nurse, so of course I got an earful when she got to my house with them! Lol! I was feeling back to normal within 1-1.5 hours. Those were a rough few days, with the last several hours being almost unbearable.
I'm happy to answer any other questions you have!
Great-Wishbone-9923@reddit
That is great information to have! Thank you! I figure if I know the symptoms to look for and understand what is happening I can act smarter to fix it, so I appreciate you sharing your experience.
The last thing I need are my panic attacks coming back - those were…rough. I can’t do those anymore, lol. I’ve only felt two “starting” since being medicated. These were very stressful situations and I was warned those kinds of situations can “break though” my meds. But cannabis, for me, is a great “as needed” for those because it works fast. My same doctor also prescribed the cannabis - so I’m ok with the current set up. The panic attacks never fully materialized either. So yay 🎉 for management!
mem0679@reddit
You're welcome!
Yes I definitely have days, sometimes weeks, where I really struggle. When that happens I try to socialize more but drink less. I'll increase the intensity of my workouts and clean up my eating. I don't know if any of that helps snap out of it or if it's a placebo effect...either way, it usually works
Moneypenny_Dreadful@reddit
Not the person you're replying to, but I weaned myself off Effexor for that very reason - if I was even an hour or two late with my dose I would feel shaky, weak, and generally unwell. Kind of like a really bad hangover/hangxiety, minus the puking. And yes, I also got the "brain zaps."
I know the term sounds vague, but it's hard to explain if you haven't had them. The best I could describe them is like an electrostatic shock, like when you're scuffing your feet on the carpet and touch something metal...only inside your skull. And I don't know if it was just me, but I could kind of feel them "traveling" from one side of my head to the other. 1/10 don't recommend, indeed.
And then when I did take my dose, it would mess up my insides something fierce - extreme nausea for the first hour or so and then all the related followup that comes with the excess stomach acid making its way through my intestines.
Regardless, I powered through the weaning period and am back on Zoloft, which my body seems to tolerate a lot more. Plus it doesn't seem to have as short of a half-life as Effexor. Granted, I'd rather be on an SNRI rather than an SSRI, and Zoloft has it's own issues (*cough* weight gain *cough*), but I just can't do Effexor anymore. I have a full bottle if someone wants to try it...lol...
Great-Wishbone-9923@reddit
Oh wow, I forgot to take mine the other day for the first time and was a good 12 hours late when I did take it, nothing happened.
frolickingdepression@reddit
I went off it cold turkey after a few months on it. I don’t know if I wasn’t on it long enough, or if I just got lucky, but I had no issues.
It’s crazy how differently these meds can act from one person to the next.
Dazzling-Walrus9673@reddit
Sertraline and Wellbutrin for me. Same thing - Once I started - I felt so good - like ohhh! This is what normal feels like. 😆
And yes - Effexor is potent! My kid got off of Effexor (switched to sertraline) last summer with a long taper schedule. Work well, also think it helped that she was taking Vraylar too. Also - bonus she lost 30 pounds without even trying after getting off Effexor.
mesablueforest@reddit
Effexor for the win! The tension headaches were killing me.
Great-Wishbone-9923@reddit
We had a tornado last night and my mother (who I’m convinced ALSO has an anxiety disorder because she acts EXACTLY like I do when I get triggered) had a panic attack, understandably as trees were coming down on the house (we are fine, everything is fine) a I had to talk her down.
I couldn’t believe how calm I was. Two years ago, not on Effexor, another tornado with my parents and I was also a panic attacked mess.
Mental_K_Oss@reddit
I was on a cocktail of Zoloft and self-prescribed cannabis for years. Then one day I started to develop Cannibinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome (the non-puking version, just nauseated all day every day and unable to even think about eating), and, just for fun, an episode of psychosis which landed me inpatient for 3 months. Best 3 months of my life...acquired real coping skills and began working on me rather than my past and others.
1950sGuy@reddit
Yeah this baffled me for years too.
I was in my early 40's before I realized I'd been having panic attacks my entire life. Each time it happened I just assumed that this was the end it was all over and then it would just go away and I'd move on. Then I ended up in the hospital because I had a severe panic attack at work and they called an ambulance on me because I straight up passed out and fell over which in itself is a very discombobulating thing to happen. I just remember looking at the ceiling and being like "well how'd that get there?"
Anyway yeah pretty easy to treat (at least in my case) and I rarely have them these days, or, when I do I know what it is which already makes it slightly better than just thinking I'll be dead in the next few minutes.
nl2yoo@reddit
The end point isn't the diagnosis.
The diagnosis should inform how you can move forward. I think some now might get stuck at the diagnosis, but to be fair, I think a lot of people are able to move forward better informed.
Many of Gen X likely dragged ass in the dark, as best as possible, because it was on us to keep up regardless.
shackspirit@reddit
That’s precisely my point. I suspect many who weren’t diagnosed tried to treat themselves, or just denied the issue, or flipped between the two, instead of getting help.
nl2yoo@reddit
Yeah an extension of "Keep Calm and Carry On" from WWII maybe peppered with a little too much denial
vs. "I have X, Y or Z" today being used as an excuse for inaction where it should be a starting point for understanding, problem solving, raw & honest solution seeking
Inevitable-Key-5200@reddit (OP)
I could have written this exact post if I were better spoken. But not as eloquently. Very, very well said friend. I appreciate the candor and best of luck to your friend to move beyond their real problems to a path of healing.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
To be blunt,you’re wrong about that. I have generalized anxiety just like this person’s wife. I’ve always felt like I’m having a panic attack when “calling the pizza place for delivery” and other examples you gave. Many of the boomers and other Gen X’ers that I know with anxiety had the same problem. Does it make sense? No. But anxiety doesn’t make sense. My kids also have anxiety. One has no problem with phone calls, one gets extreme anxiety like I do. It has nothing to do with resilience or “young people these days”.
GrowthDesperate5176@reddit
🎯Bullseye.
mcluhan007@reddit
I think the anxiety is the same. We just didn’t have the option to hide out from the world. We were forced to socialize and develop social skills.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
Many of us had to rely on drugs and alcohol to do that socialization.
raisinghellwithtrees@reddit
How do you know this, though? How do you know they aren't experiencing the same kind of anxiety we did?
I had persistent stomach aches when I was a kid and missed a shit ton of school. Yeah that was anxiety.
Molicious26@reddit
Ok, boomer.
shackspirit@reddit
Thanks. He’s a survivor. As is my wife. That’s a win in my book, and hopefully in theirs.
mclazerlou@reddit
We only recently learned to pathologize common human traits that aren't useful to capital/capitalist. Oh you're sensitive and have emotions and empathy? There's clearly something wrong with you. Oh you don't like sitting in a chair all day staring at computers? There's something wrong with you.
FlamingDragonfruit@reddit
Right. A big part of the issue is that people naturally become profoundly anxious in situations where they have no viable escape from anxiety. Our generation was raised in an extremely consumerist culture, at the tail end of the cold war, without strong community bonds, without even strong familial bonds, watching our economic & ecological futures actively destroyed, given little to no guidance (other than punishment), never allowed to show an emotion, and then let loose and expected to deal with everything on our own. Which we did, because we are resilient, sure, but we also have massive amounts of repressed anxiety and struggle to really care about anything or to make meaningful connections to others. We were taught that no one cared about our problems and we've internalized that, to our own detriment. The kids may have gone a little too far with it, but taking a stand against exploitive/abusive treatment is still a step in the right direction, I think.
Hot-Butterfly-8024@reddit
And the more sedentary/chronically online our daily lives become, the less effective our bodies’ normal coping mechanisms for stress and the more neurotic we become. It’s just weird to see a couple generations of humans paralyzed by uncertainty and self doubt to the point where they have to solicit approval from strangers on the internet before doing things that older generations just did (badly) and got on with their lives.
FlamingDragonfruit@reddit
Part of that is that I think we pay a heavier toll for making the wrong choice, now.
Hot-Butterfly-8024@reddit
Perhaps, but it’s super strange that the fundamental assumption seems to be that everything is high stakes poker. Nobody actually cares if you write bad poetry, but if you predicate your willingness to do it on your fear of being “cringe”, you’re fucked before you even try. “Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on another’s permission.”
FlamingDragonfruit@reddit
This I do agree with. Writing terrible is zero stakes (except, perhaps to your ego).
mesablueforest@reddit
This is so very accurate. Not being able to express anger or frustration growing up was a hard thing to break thru.
FacePunchPow5000@reddit
Here, let's get you a diagnosis and some prescriptions, we can still make a buck off of you.
OldCollegeTry3@reddit
There is zero chance that autism and adhd were anywhere near as widespread “but not diagnosed” in Gen X. While readily diagnosing absolutely inflates the disparity between generations, looking at the statistics now shows the massive increase in cases. As an early millennial I knew of just 2-3 autistic kids my entire time at school, with only one being actually diagnosed. Today, my children are in school with the same number per class. There are entire schools in my area for kids with Autism and adhd.
Something we are doing is causing autism and adhd. Period. What that is, I don’t know. What I do know is that people at the top absolutely know what it is and don’t want it to be known.
The same is likely true with the rest of the mental health issues. Whether it’s learned and worsened by behaviors, it’s chemical, or both, I’m not sure. However, Gen X absolutely dealt with similar issues on a smaller scale, but it is rapidly getting worse as we progress.
How many kids in your school pretended to be cats and peed in litter boxes?
I know in the 90’s we called our friends “trannies” and “transvestites” as digs and knew the term as something really messed up, but didn’t actually know anyone like that. Now, they’re everywhere and fighting for society to see them as “normal”.
Our mental health is getting worse day by day and over the next 60 years it will get exponentially worse. Pedos are already following the same exact game plan that all the other letters in the alphabet crew used. Step one is put it into the minds of society regularly. Step two is get it removed from the DSM as a mental illness. Step two is already in action right now.
mesablueforest@reddit
Omg the peeing in litter boxes has been debunked!! They use litter to clean up wet messes at it is cheaper than the other stuff. Plus during lock down drills the poor kids and teachers need a place to pee, using the empty plastic totes the litter came in. I mean shit yeah we had to practice nuclear drills for a bit but did you really think we were gonna be nuked. The sad truth is a shooter is way way too close of a possibility for these kids. My anxiety growing up in modern times i can't even imagine how high it would be. Trans, multiple genders, non binary has been around as long as humans! Indigenous cultures revered them until Christian colonizers came in and messed with their culture. People just hid because it was safer than getting relentlessly mocked, beaten up and or killed. We are at a point where differences in the " norm" whatever that is can be openly talked about with less judgment than previous generations. And sure the needle can swing to the a bit too far to the other side but it does settle.
OldCollegeTry3@reddit
Lmao NO, it has NOT. There were literal litter boxes in kids bathrooms in my state you goofball.
mesablueforest@reddit
Defend your claim as every article i pull up says it's a hoax
Moneypenny_Dreadful@reddit
This guy has got to be a troll, right? There hasn't been a single documented case of, quote, "literal litterboxes in kids bathrooms" in ANY state.
I usually don't feed the trolls, but I'm all jacked up on angry old woman hormones (or the relative lack of) and I'm waiting with my popcorn to see if he ever responds.
mesablueforest@reddit
Oooh I've recruited aid! Its like he slid ass over elbow right into boomerism ie a Steph (from Pretty in Pink, ie a dick). The rumor started for the reasons I stated to him and of course certain people just ran straight into a swamp with it.
Moneypenny_Dreadful@reddit
JFC what is WRONG with you? Litterboxes? Pedos? "Alphabet Crew?"...fucking using the word "TRANNIES" and talking about how they're messed up??
Are you going to start preaching about "vaccines causing autism" next??
Read a goddamn book. Or stop watching Faux News. Either way, get off my lawn!
shackspirit@reddit
I know of at least a handful of kids in my year alone who would be diagnosed as on the autism spectrum if they were young today. I know of easily that many who’d be classified as ADHD too (myself included). I was really smart at school so I sailed through, but I’m a stereotypical inattentive ADHD case. Whatever…I’m ok.
But generalised anxiety?…bi polar…? that’s another level of hurt…
Whether things are getting worse or there’s overdiagnosis I don’t know….but I do know that mental health just wasn’t a thing when we were young. Instead, we were getting bashed if we played up, at least at the school I went to. We were the last generation to have systematic violence deployed to ‘guide us’, at least where I live.
Square-Wing-6273@reddit
Same. When I got into my 50s i started having extreme anxiety. Couldn't explain it, couldn't really understand it. Other things too, like general anger for no apparent reason.
I actually discovered the reason, and it's the whole hormone/period/menopause thing. Started treating that and the anxiety and anger got so much better.
Moneypenny_Dreadful@reddit
Oof, the perimeno hormone drops and surges have been brutal... especially when it seems like it overrides all the healthy coping mechanisms that I've learned in my years of dealing with anxiety.
Nobody told us that we would be going through a second puberty! There are days that I just burst into tears for no reason and my husband is like, are your meds not working anymore?
Iain365@reddit
I feel genuinely sorry for anyone who suffers from real anxiety. It must be horrible.
I do find the current trend of acting like being anxious about specific, difficult situations, is a similar thing hard to take though.
Moneypenny_Dreadful@reddit
It's hard! I was always told I was "too sensitive" as a child, formally diagnosed with GAD in my 30s, but still—powered through it and made my appointments and talked on the phone and went to my job and handled situations like a big girl. Hell, I was even a professional actor for a while. But I will never discourage anyone from treating or acknowledging their anxiety or other challenges.
What I DO have a problem with is trendy TikTok diagnoses of AD/ADHD/AuSpec/etc that make people think they're 'special' and therefore deserve special treatment.
I recently took one of the online autism tests for fun and was told I had a 60% chance of being on the spectrum. But, like, if it's a spectrum, then I'm just *slightly* north of normal, right? I don't need a damn label to tell people I'm just...kind of weird...about certain things!
signguy989@reddit
This
swigs77@reddit
damn it, you had 420 likes and I ruined it. I am still self medicating in my older years. Cheaper than a shrink.
Dioscouri@reddit
I hear you on the diagnosis
If ADHD would have been a thing when I was a kid, I'd have been the poster child. Instead I was simply industrious.
shackspirit@reddit
I used to rock on my chair in class and talk over the teacher until I was sent out of the room…sound familiar?
Dioscouri@reddit
I spent grade school in the corner.
Yes, that's when I was allowed in the room.
Random0s2oh@reddit
People still subscribed to Bruno Bettelheim's theory that autism was a result of detached and unfeeling mothers. Not too many wanted to hear that about themselves. My son was born in late 1990 and was diagnosed at 3 years old. We still didn't know much, but at least moms had stopped being blamed.
Acidrom86_ufg@reddit
Boo hoo mother fucker lol. Is this guy gen x or a imposter lol
stuck_behind_a_truck@reddit
I’m currently being treated for CPTSD and ADHD. There’s a point where sucking up becomes serious physical illness. My body froze up and it took a lot of meds just to walk.
It’s actually a whole lot easier to treat than repress. I’m not sure my body will recover fully, but at least I can walk a mile again.
sugarlump858@reddit
Me too. CTPSD, ADHD, GAD, RSD, and a smidge of autism and maybe OCD. I'm only just now recognizing when I am having anxiety. Three months after my diagnosis, I have a psych, therapist and meds.
What's funny is when I told my dad he asked what CTPSD is. I explained, and he asked what happened for me to have it. HAHAHA. Sit down and grab a drink, and let me tell you, dad. He left us when I was 11, and my mother made my life hell.
stormer1_1@reddit
Ah yes, the old stereotypes of having to have experienced war or sexual violence in order to have "real" PTSD.
stuck_behind_a_truck@reddit
I hope he actually heard anything you did tell him
sugarlump858@reddit
Nah. He doesn't really want to hear about me or what's going on with me. He just wants to hear about the grandkids. And we talk about the weather, gardening and what we watch on TV.
stuck_behind_a_truck@reddit
Ah, the surface relationship. Have you read Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents? It (and probably its follow ups) is great at understanding how to have that surface relationship and to understand your parents and your coping mechanisms. It was life changing for me.
the_befuss@reddit
You're telling my life rn!
obxtalldude@reddit
Yep. Stress alone ruined my health. I woke up from my colonoscopy with my surgeon telling my I have the guts of a 70 year old. It's no joke.
Every single chronic issue I have eventually turned out to be stress based. TMJ caused pain that I thought was chronic sinus infections. It's wild how many ways it leaks out.
Sucking it up is fine to a point, but long term it will do real damage.
AwardSalt4957@reddit
Freakin TMJ. I’m with you there. I had crazy headaches for years, until I got a night guard for my teeth. Wacky.
pagette44@reddit
Night guards don't help me much anymore with TMJ. On my last dental visit, I was told most of the cartilage is gone in my right jaw and eventually, I'll have to have it fixed.
WillingNail3221@reddit
I don't have any issues with jaw although I've been told my teeth are pretty ground down and sensitive from grinding when stressed. As for cartilage I have almost none in my knees and wrists and very little in my right shoulder due to sucking up pain when I was in the military.
Kangaruex4Ewe@reddit
True. I wasn’t told that I was diagnosed with autism as a very young child until I was 21.
That explained so much and I’m still not sure at 48 if that was a bad thing. My parents obviously made the decision to not treat me any differently or have schools treat me any differently. As it stood, I had to figure it out. My grades were good as long as I wanted them to be but the social stuff… it would’ve answered so much.
As a result I function the same in adult world. I struggle through whatever I need to do and keep it moving. Maybe if they hadn’t made that decision I would’ve used the diagnosis to get by with a lot more. I feel like as a child I would have simply because I hate people lol. I am extremely introverted living in an extroverted society.
Given the opportunity I would likely only ever leave my house for an emergency. But I was never given another choice so I figured out how to function successfully.
There are some that didn’t. These issues were treated differently back then. Not always better by any means, but sometimes 🤷🏻♀️
CyndiIsOnReddit@reddit
I wonder about how we struggled and survived without adequate support. My son was diagnosed at 4. He had years and years of OT and pragmatic speech therapy, both one on one and in a group. He's 20 now and I think sometimes socially he is far more "functional" than me, and I think it's probably because he did get all the support he needed. And what's really cool for him is he knows his issues are a medical condition, not just being "high strung" like I was called, like it was a personal failure that I couldn't just "calm down" like they wanted.
AntheaBrainhooke@reddit
A lot of us didn't survive.
TequilasLime@reddit
I'm 5 years older than you, and growing up, we never heard of autism or ADHD, at most, some kids were hyper and there weren't really any options for different treatment at school or in community. As most, there were a few programs for the kids who at that time were referred to as special, but that was for the kids with glaringly obvious physical and developmental disabilities. I think I was in university before we really started to hear terms that fit with the modern vernacular. And even then, you rarely accommodations or IEPs
Rich_Forever5718@reddit
I went on meds at 49 recently for undiagnosed anxiety(maybe). I was getting chest pains all the time. Cardiologists did all the tests and heart is great. Started the meds, and the chest pains went away.
Now, I am an introvert and also have mild social anxiety. This did not stop me from getting on with my life and being an adult. I figured that no one cares about your invisible limiting issues. They still expect you to do your thing and not come up with a bunch of excuses.
STGItsMe@reddit
This. I’m ADHD and autistic and didn’t get diagnosed til my 50s. I spent my teens and 20s self medicating in a variety of ways before I settled on some things I thought were sustainable. The build up of anxiety and depression eventually forced me to admit it wasnt sustainable. Recognizing my limitations earlier instead of just sucking it up would have had a healthier outcome.
CyndiIsOnReddit@reddit
Same! I was 47 and even though I worked with autistic kids in schools for more than a decade I didn't know autism was anything more than these poor kids in such bad shape they were stuck in loops. Then I had an autistic kid myself.
When he was 10 we participated in a university study for families of autistic children. They gave me a full assessment because they were working on the hereditary markers. They told me there I scored almost as high as my son who was practically nonverbal. My markers were just really different from his. I didn't believe it either, thought they were messing up the data to prove a point, but I went and got formally assessed and boom there ya go: autistic AF as the kids say.
ancientastronaut2@reddit
Yep. I was diagnosed with ADHD about seven years ago, and this year found out I'm AuADHD.
Always kinda felt a little weird, but masked it well enough to get by.
No fucking wonder I'm always self-medicating.
VixenRoss@reddit
I’m autistic, and to be fair the school reports said “doesn’t get on with her piers”. Nothing was offered. I did get some treatment for anxiety as a teenager.
I even had a broken wrist that wasn’t seen to for about a week. Apparently, I had to get on with it. After about a week, I was talking to the doctors with my mum more or less apologising and saying I was complaining it hurt and wasn’t using my right hand. The doctor promptly told her off and sent us up to accident and emergency.
Beatrice_lives_1937@reddit
Apparently as baby ( under 2) was so good I never really complained about the broken thigh bone I had. I guess I took my mom a couple of days to notice.
a_m_y_k@reddit
Great points. And I think “…overthinking normal life challenges that require resilience, effort, patience and positivity to overcome” very clearly and accurately describes the difference I couldn’t quite put into words when considering some other gens I work with.
Demonkey44@reddit
I was diagnosed with ADHD at 53. When I was in Highschool, I had so much anxiety about going to school that I sometimes needed a shot or two of vodka to get going.
My son, on the other hand, was diagnosed with his ADHD at 10. We make sure he takes his Vyvanse to combat school based anxiety. It works much better and for longer. He also goes to therapy and learns CBT and DBT to cope. He has a formal IEP that his guidance counselor, the CST and the teachers follow.
If “sucking up anxiety” means self-diagnosing and self-medicating with alcohol AND still thinking it’s a character flaw, and not just the coping mechanism of a scared 16 year old, yeah, I want no part of it.
Some of my friends self-medicated with weed before and after school. Some smoked cigarettes in the school bathrooms to cope.
Things are much better now.
MissBoofsAlot@reddit
That was me. I would smoke a joint on my walk to school. Roll another in the bathroom during German class for milk break, run down the street to a friends house at lunch to smoke a bowl. Twist another for the walk home after school. Smoking cigarettes in the bathroom in the classes between.
In middle school before I started smoking pot (started that end of 8th grade) I used alcohol and cigarettes to get through the day.
At 47 I just quit smoking cigarettes 2 months ago. I gave up the drugs/alcohol after highschool. I would still social drink 2-3 times a year but it wasn't getting black out drunk, it's like 1 beer or cocktail and that's it.
GiantMags@reddit
I think the industrial revolution had a big effect on our generation too. Processed foods, food dye, weed killer, fast food, it all took off. I think it contributed to arise and autistic spectrum related cases. As for anxiety it was just undiagnosed many people suffered from it for years I had anxiety when I was a kid but never knew what it was until I hit my late 40s. I had an anxiety disorder that I messed with alcohol and just dealt with it and it was always horrible. I like where society is now even though we're trying to take a step backwards trying to ban people from who they really are. But I rather be a kid today then a kid when I was young
CreativeBusiness6588@reddit
AMEN. Life can be scary. Everything isn't a disability or disease, or something that needs to be medicated or used as an identity.
Equal-Sea-300@reddit
The resilience is low with the younger ones, I’m thinking the young (early 30s) millennials. This is based on workplace interactions I’ve had over the last few years. But then I think how us Gen X-ers were pushed into being resilient and that’s not great either. I’m biased and respect our generation more for that though.
TRH100@reddit
I, too, have depression & anxiety diagnoses, and did back then, but I still think OP is right on. Today's kids just can't seem to deal. I know they encounter a lot of difficult stuff that we didn't (cyberbullying, school shootings, etc), but I know, dealing with my own son, that no matter how much I and his therapist worked with him, he was just never (and still isn't as an adult) equipped to deal with "real life." Every small thing is a crisis. Keeping a job is impossible. Problem-solving skills are non-existent. Self-reliance & work-ethic are just not there. It is so perplexing because I know I raised him to have these skills!
LayerNo3634@reddit
We learned to just get things done, no excuses. Younger generations were coddled and babied. They never learned to just pull up their boot straps/put on your big girl panties and just do it. Many of us have anxiety/adhd, and we powered through. The diagnosis might be worse than the ignorance, because it becomes an excuse. My husband is blind. His parents treated him just as they did the other kids and put the same expectations on him. Today's parents hear a diagnosis and take away certain expectations that everyone has to have. Therefore, they never learn that they can do it.
HLOFRND@reddit
I mean, I sucked it up and dealt with it, right up until I literally couldn’t anymore. And then a whole bunch of shit came tumbling down at the worst possible time.
Finding the middle ground is key. Being tough helps, but so does therapy and meds and effective self care.
raisinghellwithtrees@reddit
Burning out is no joke. Sucking up and dealing with it worked ok for decades and then I hit complete rock bottom. It took me several years to dig myself out of that hole.
TheDoorViking@reddit
I'm still digging. Working in a medical center in 2020, a shuffle in the lab, interviewing for my own job, and my existing schizophrenia completely shut me down. I gotta say, though, I'm glad treatment is so good these days. Had I been born decades earlier, it might have been a straight jacket. Or at the very least, thorazine. I guess anxiety is strong these days, but sometimes I want to laugh about it. Anyway, that's the end of my pissing contest. Sorry.
raisinghellwithtrees@reddit
Hey, no worries on the pissing contest. We all have our struggles, and if you're still digging out of that hole, congrats to you for continuing to try. I hope it gets easier for you.
SophsterSophistry@reddit
I refer to it as the rubberband finally not bouncing back. I thought I was resilient until I wasn't. I stretched myself so thin and didn't bounce back like I used to and it was a surprise.
raisinghellwithtrees@reddit
It was a surprise! I have an excessive amount of resiliency until it was all gone. I'm very careful now about how much I can do and use the word no a lot more than I used to.
SophsterSophistry@reddit
You think you're going to be a certain way forever--especially mentally/emotionally or intellectually. And suddenly, you're not! I figured since I was mostly the same (with stress, coping skills) throughout my life it'd continue to be the same way. Then my 50s hit and some of the things that used to work, don't. It's made me re-evaluate a lot of things regarding my self perception.
I always thought I was empathetic, but I realized I had some blind spots about anxiety and resilience and aging. You can prepare for it, but it doesn't mean it's going to work out how you planned.
Throwaway7219017@reddit
I agree. There’s a very fine line between tough and trauma. But we all figured it out, for better or worse, didn’t we!
Effective_Farmer_119@reddit
Not everybody made it
OkIncrease6030@reddit
My high school graduating class has been dropping like flies since our late 40s. We went to a competitive school just outside a very messed up city. Some people had drinking problems while we were still in high school. We also had a rash of suicides that made the national papers.
FlamingDragonfruit@reddit
I know far too many people my age who died young, either by their own choice, or because of hidden health issues.
LevelPerception4@reddit
I feel like this is part of American culture. Instead of wanting to make things better for everyone, we cling to our own experiences as evidence that suffering builds character.
SirLanceNotsomuch@reddit
I mean, the ones of us who are reading this, yeah. But not all of us did. 🫤
AGoddamnBigCar@reddit
I'm with you.
I plowed through for decades as if taking pride in suffering was its own perverse reward, and all it accomplished was to make a fuckton of money for a handful of people, a decent little pile of their crumbs for myself and family, and a full-blown mental collapse.
If we had known when I was a kid that I had some specific diagnosable tendencies and paid a minimal amount of attention to that, maybe I could have avoided said full-blown collapse, I don't know.
There are pretty obviously some younger folks taking it way overboard and self-diagnosing everything under the sun, but overall I fucking applaud them for paying attention to their mental health. I certainly wish I had before developing 50 years of fucked-up behaviors.
Simple-Swan8877@reddit
My parents had a dairy farm which they had saved and sacrificed to get. My dad grew up in poverty. Later in life my dad told me that he never wanted to be an old man looking for a job. We got up at 3:30 am to feed and milk the cows. We caught the school bus at 6:40 am and my parents finished milking the cows. School got out at 2:30 and we started getting the cows in at 3:30 pm. We went to bed at 8:30 pm. In the middle of that time we went to school. Before my parents had the dairy I worked in the fields during the summer. As a family we worked together. We didn't know any different. All of my siblings and myself started businesses. One of my siblings had friends that were not good for him. He has not done all that well. Help would not have helped him for many years. He had a good job but they spent their money on things that made them look good. My sister and I had good friends. I would say the friends we have have helped us a lot. A few years ago a friend of mine had leukemia and could not work. We were able to help him until he got well and was able to work. Not long ago I helped some students get an education in a very poor country. When I looked at what they were learning it makes our schools look easy. For them an education completely changes their life and lives of those in their family. When I was in college I had a job that allowed me to help some others. There was a time when I wanted to get to a point to be able to help others. It is interesting what has happened since that time. I have more and I give more. I find having more does little but giving more is huge. When I am focused on giving and helping I don't focus on what I want. My wife is a very generous person and the pay raises she gets are huge.
Arkhus9753@reddit
I feel that the “suck it up” attitude was a leftover from the previous generations (not hating on anyone just my observation) since they went through the Great Depression and various wars. On the other hand, I also saw a lot of knee-jerk diagnoses like what happened with the Satanic Panic and every fucked up kid had borderline personality disorder (especially young women, I noticed). I’ve been diagnosed with BPD many times then I had a therapist tell me that she thought that I was bi-polar. I was/am neither of those things - just a messed up kid who could have used some real guidance and good role models.
OreoSpeedwaggon@reddit
First, I believe anxiety disorders are real, and that anybody with one should seek diagnosis and treatment from a medical professional. Simultaneously though, I believe a lot of people (especially people younger than our generation) self-diagnose anxiety problems or use anxiety as an excuse to avoid situations that may cause them to feel uncomfortable, fearful, or nervous. These range from common anxiety-induscing situations like asking someone on a date or confronting a bully, to normal situations like making friends, going to a concert, boarding a flight, or parenting, to mundane encounters like speaking with people over the phone and going into places of business like grocery stores, banks, or government offices.
There needs to be more of a separation identified between actual medical anxiety disorders and everyday feelings of fear and nervousness. And society shouldn't be afraid to tell people from the latter group to "suck it up and deal with it," but in kinder and more relatable terms.
Key-Question3639@reddit
Yes! One of my coworkers (at a school) has a good explanation of clinical anxiety vs. discomfort for the middle schoolers. She's great at encouraging them to work through normal discomfort, e.g. making a speech in front of the class.
Psychological_Tap187@reddit
This is how I feel. I do think real anxiety effects people more than we realized when we were young, but I also think younger generations use it when it's simply normal nervousness.
sweetthang70@reddit
Exactly this. I'm so glad that the younger generations are aware of mental health issues and in general are more open to compassion towards people, etc.
That being said, yes, almost everyone deals with anxiety in certain situations. It's part of life.
Anecdotally, I had a young co-worker that really used the "anxiety" excuse to get out of certain job duties. At first I did actually feel bad for her. But one day it was her turn again to do something she didn't care for (tbf, none of like that particular task) and she yet again started crying, acting borderline hysterical. She stated "I can't do this today! I need to go home and get my CBD! No one told me I would have to do this!' At that point it finally hit me that she was using her tears and "anxiety" to try to manipulate the rest of us to feel bad for her and offer to take over that job for her.
hooru123@reddit
Upvoted. I think your post mirrors how I generally feel about this topic. Now I'm hoping you don't edit your post causing me to support something I don't agree with. :-O
WillDupage@reddit
You have my upvote. Being uncomfortable or apprehensive doesn’t equate to an anxiety disorder. I have a cousin with some pretty substantial anxiety issues who has fought the good fight to have a life and career (sometimes losing but mostly winning) and when I hear some person use “my anxiety” as an excuse not to do something, I want to scream. No, I’m not a clinician, and I don’t know 100% for sure they don’t have anxiety issues, but having seen the real struggles, I’m familiar with quite a bit of the accompanying behavior and signs and my BullshitAlert is pretty attuned.
(Just like with people using “I’m an introvert” as an inappropriate placeholder for “shy” or “socially awkward” or “unaware of how to interact with other functioning humans”. That’s not what it means.)
Z2xU@reddit
"SUCK IT UP"... was the favorite line of my early 90s high school sports coaches. That and "Shake it off"
Some of my high school injuries...
Several concussions, slipped disc in neck(arm went blue), split growth plate on collarbone to shoulder... separated other shoulder, Hyper extended knees and elbows. Compressed sternum, torn ligaments in hand. Im not even 50 yet but I feel 85. Wish I never played.
Bakewitch@reddit
So. A lot of us didn’t suck it up. We lived with it & almost destroyed our own adult lives and our kids bc we thought life was just that way. Then we went to therapy & realized how fcked up we’ve always been, mostly due to the boomers that raised us, and we then can move forward with love & empathy. I think bc we don’t GET much empathy, even as little children, we somehow think our kids and their kids are just whining. No. We shouldn’t been given the same empathy & love, not the other way around. Nothing is ever fixed with LESS empathy, but that’s the lie we were told and tell ourselves. I’m sorry, OP. I did suck it up & get on with it, but that doesn’t mean I should’ve done that for so long. Took me til I was 47 to fully grapple with the horrors of childhood, and I wish I’d been encouraged to do so sooner. Lack of accountability isn’t all about anxiety, and sometimes anxiety is just a catch all word - LOOk what’s going on out there right now!! I remember feeling anxious af when the 1st war in Iraq started under poppy bush, and I was freaked tf OUT that my friends could be sent to die. Imagine how kids today feel? They can’t even rent a dang apt for less than $1800 in most places now. That’s so not what we had to deal with. They’re getting it from all sides.
Underground_turtles@reddit
This!! The world they are growing up in is so much harder and scarier than ours. Also, my own therapist helped me understand that if I want a better relationship with my kids than I have with my own parents, I have to allow them to be more honest about their feelings than I was allowed to be. That means listening to their fears and anxieties and not just dismissing them and telling them to toughen up.
Myeloman@reddit
Sounds like a very boomer way of looking at something that’s changed from what you perceived to be the norm. Life is really about change, things are always different than they were. People over time, bigger. The way we live our lives today is vastly different than what our parents lived, and their parents before them. My grandfather farmed 40 acres with horses before he was out of his teens. He barely got acquainted with a cell phone before he passed away. My dad now has an iPhone (doesn’t really use it for anything it’s really capable of, but he can at least navigate phone calls and texts. Me/our generation has gone from vinyl records and 8-track tapes to cassettes to CDs to digital streaming. I can’t imagine the struggles my granddad would have trying to watch a streaming movie. My kids barely knew CDs and VHS tapes before they used DVDs and Blu-ray’s. Now it’s getting hard to find those.
The things that would’ve made you anxious our kids aren’t experiencing, and to be perfectly honest and fair, we have more knowledge now, and hod our parents known that corporal punishment, or leaving us home alone while hey both worked, or any of a host of other seemingly normal situations would’ve caused us to have anxiety, I’d like to think they’d’ve loved us enough to change how they parented us. I know more about things than my parents did, and I’ve raised my kids accordingly. Don’t we all do that? Take what we know from childhood and add what we’ve learned along the way and try to do better?
I was raised on “walk it off” and “a real man would…” toxicity, and I made conscious efforts not to pass along those things along with other generational traumas to my kids. If someone thinks that makes them “soft” or “weak”, so what? What am I supposed to do with that? I don’t have time for other’s critiques of how I patented my kids, especially those who refuse to adapt to new knowledge and ways of doing things. This world has other, bigger, more pressing things for me to spend my energy on.
Great-Tical-Returns@reddit
I sucked it up until I couldn't anymore and almost took my own life, I don't judge others for their struggles
According2Sunny4440@reddit
I had a Gen z coworker complain that it’s tough working all day and having to clean their own place. No kids just a regular 9-5 M-F job. Really? Welcome to adulting!
Dazzling-Walrus9673@reddit
I think mental health was a taboo subject when we were growing up. That’s why you didn’t hear about it.
I’m glad it’s a topic that can be discussed. I’ve dealt with my fair share of depression and anxiety but didn’t know what it was - and didn’t get treated until my late 30s.
RockingFlower@reddit
every single day
Llama-nade@reddit
We didn't grow up with social media. You're overlooking the devastation that can happen to these kids on a daily basis that we never had to deal with.
Emunahd@reddit
This. At least when we went home we had some respite; there’s no such thing anymore.
Emunahd@reddit
Yeah. Sucking it up and getting on with it is how I’ve been my whole life. I had a lot of trauma as a child and when people heard my stories they’d ask how it affected me. I always said I didn’t know anything else and it was “just my life.”
Fast forward to having one of my kids go through some significant trauma of her own and helping her manage it…we finally get through that and things start to normalize and it’s quiet for the first time in my life and I fell apart.
I call it a “metaphysical car accident.” Everything stopped after going 100 mph and I ended up in the ER 2 after passing out from an anxiety attack. Injured myself pretty good from the fall and I am no longer capable of sucking it up and getting on with it. I’m a train wreck.
Started therapy and some other things to try and calm my body down. I’m almost 55 years old and all other things considered, just walking the planet now has become the hardest thing I’ve ever done.
I get terrible side effects from most medications so I’m just out here “raw dogging it,” as the kids say. Sometimes specific terpenoid edibles are helpful, so I can at least function, but this sucks. I’d always been so proud of my hard edges, like a badge of honor, but those edges are cutting me up and if I’m not mindful, I’ll bleed out. So…I stay mindful and I’m learning to give myself grace.
SitamoiaRose@reddit
There wasn’t a lot of choice. Parents and, if they were close by, grandparents were dealing with the effects the war had on them.
They pulled their socks up and just got on with it. ‘Mustn’t grumble ‘ was something I heard a lot from my grandmother. Not unkindly, but just because she knew that stuff still has to be done - anxiety or not. Have your breakdown once the crisis/task is done.
As a teacher, I see kids being excused from all sorts of things from sports days (even coming to school on that day), speeches, or other planned activity days due to anxiety. The more they don’t have to face, the bigger the problems seem and the worse the anxiety gets. They have no techniques to fall back on when they do feel anxious other than to run away.
Boys and girls present very differently with autism. It’s not been that long that we’ve really been studying the world of autistic people. 1994 when my son was born, Rain Man was all people thought of when they heard the word autistic. Now we know that audition people are as varied as anyone else.
Both autistic and anxious kids/adults need to be supported to navigate the world as best they can, so they feel comfortable in a world that is as much theirs as anyone else’s. Doing anything else does them a disservice.
Trotter-x@reddit
IMHO, today's generations are pussies, plain and simple. I see people in their thirties who can't handle the thought of having to work 30+ more years, in their twenties who are afraid to get or keep a job. Heck, I've met 40-somethings who still live at home with mommy and are perfectly fine with it.
I'm not ADHD, anxious, dependent, whatever. I was raised by a couple of Silent generation parents and left to my own devices once I hit eight or nine. My folks made decent middle class money so I never went without, but I didn't have my every whim fulfilled either. Either you cooked your own supper or you ate whatever was on the table; no running little Johnny to MickeyD's for his happy meal, or making his favorite dino nuggets when supper has already been put on the table. I was expected to work at home and then to make my own spending money. I was taught that there are consequences to your actions, and that you take responsibility for what you say and do.
Yeah, I have serious doubts about this world after we leave it.
HemlockGrv@reddit
We invented masking. Out of necessity.
(Not this kind of masking 😷… the kind where you suck it up and get on with it.)
HuaMana@reddit
I had to overcome an intense fear of public speaking to take my dream job. Yes, I had anxiety and several panic attacks, but I pushed through and loved public speaking after the first year.
stigbugly@reddit
Anxiety is the spice of life itself! I thrive on that shit, give me more stress and I’m perfectly happy. I’d die of boredom as a millennial with all their time out bullshit and “safe places”.
Bruin9098@reddit
Clint Eastwood aptly described subsequent generations to us: pu**y generation
Practical-Plenty907@reddit
I got downvoted on another sub for daring to suggest the younger gens can’t and don’t want to deal with ordinary life issues but I wholeheartedly agree with you. We have and continue to deal with so much shit and overall just keep going. The other sub was a parent that got drunk and told their kid they were a disappointment. Parent got cut off. Did that happen to us? Probably. I know it did for me. No big deal. We didn’t cut the parent off or cry about it. Life went on as if nothing happened like so many other things thrown our way. Ordinary life challenges are insurmountable and “trauma” for the younger generations. It’s exhausting. Sure, we should progress as time goes on, but nothing and no one is perfect. Including them.
wabi-sabi-527@reddit
I’m told the way we handled it wasn’t “mentally healthy.”🙄
Comfortable_Fruit847@reddit
Nobody coddled us at kids! If we weren’t acting right we just got beat. There was no maybe they’re dyslexic, or ADD… nothing like that! We had to figure out how to deal with it!
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
And that’s why so many of our generation killed themselves or drank or drugged themselves to death.
Comfortable_Fruit847@reddit
Nobody knew about these mental health diseases in the 80’s/90’s. I believe our parents did the best they knew to do, with the information they had and societal norms. You can’t blame them for things they didn’t know back then. We are all aware now, and I think most that endured mental health issues are now seeking help, if they can. We may have had it rough, but I think coddling this new generation is doing more bad than good.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
People definitely knew about mental health disorders in the 80s and 90s, it’s just that assholes tried to ignore it and beat it out of them. My doctor told me regularly in the late 80s/early 90s that my problem was anxiety.
Comfortable_Fruit847@reddit
You sure you’re gen X? You’re kinda whiny…
ynfive@reddit
That's pretty much why I'm still dealing with anxiety 40 years later.
Daliguana@reddit
I landed in Rio de Janeiro and almost immediately got all my cash, return tickets and passport stolen from me in 1987 aged 17. On a Rotary exchange program. Called my dad who said “well, son, I’m not sure what I can do for you. Call me when you’ve figured it out.” My daughter (21) has a hard time making a phone call to set up a dentist appointment.
D05wtt@reddit
I think a lot of this is just kids who are raised by the screen and who didn’t learn valuable social interaction skills. We were playing outside everyday with the neighborhood kids. We learned to deal with disputes and disagreements. We also didn’t get participation awards; instead we learned to lose graciously. We didn’t throw fits like lunatics out in public. I don’t think people realize the importance of all of these things. I’ve mentioned this many times before: that there was a recent survey done that 70% - 80% of kids today would rather text than talk in person or on the phone. It’s just a sad state of affairs. Me? I’d rather talk to people in person or on the phone. You can hear the tone in someone’s voice or see the facial reactions, which are very important in communications.
Was I “scared” to make appointments or talk to customer service or just grownups? Yes. But, my parents made me do it. Not because they were terrible parents. But because they knew that the more I did it, the easier it gets. It’s just like everything else out there, you just need practice. In 1st thru 6th grade, I went to an all boy’s Catholic school. When I finally went to a public school in 7th grade I was scared of talking to girls. It took time and practice for me to get over that “fear”. It’s the same with public speaking. I was mortified with getting in front of class and giving speeches. Many of us took some kind of Communications class, either in high school or in college. Those classes really didn’t teach you much but what it did do was force you to make many speeches over the course of the semester. The more i did it, the easier it got. Practice. That’s all it is…practice.
SageObserver@reddit
I remember in high school having my beater car break down. I got a ride home and told my dad, he sat there reading the paper and said “well you best call someone to go get it and have it repaired”.
D05wtt@reddit
Yeah exactly. If I had questions, he would answer them. But he didn’t tell me word for word what to ask or say. If I made a mistake or forgot to ask something, he’d make me call them back.
SageObserver@reddit
I agree with everything you said though. We’ve lowered the bar drastically for young people as to what constitutes trauma. Yes, there are people with legit mental issues but life itself is stressful and if people need to learn to deal with it. I had someone tell me here on Reddit that certain people prefer to go to Subway since going to a neighborhood deli was overwhelming with choices and uncomfortable for them. Excuse me?
D05wtt@reddit
When “safe spaces” became a thing, we were fucked from then on.
BellaFromSwitzerland@reddit
How do you plan to help your daughter get her shit together ?
Daliguana@reddit
she can call me when she gets it figured out
Throwaway7219017@reddit
Blame it on Rio.
In all seriousness, your post exactly sums up the difference between our generations.
Vulpine69@reddit
What I've noticed is it seems to be trendy to have some kind of mental illness. Sometimes its true, sometimes its bullshit. Either way, they need to learn to deal with it best they can.
Some of it might be the drugs they put kids on. When I was in 6th grade the school wanted to put me on drugs because I was spastic as hell. My dads a psychologist, he said fuck no hes a kid, that's how they are sometimes. He will grow out of it. I grew out of it. There are a lot more drugs they are putting kids on these days.
The world is way too complicated. Hell just the amount of paperwork you need to deal with in life is stupid. Too much information, too much distraction, too much propaganda coming from everywhere.
dynamine@reddit
Another supercool, normal, Boomer take. 🙄
zygomatik-prozess@reddit
A lot of ayahuasca did the trick. I don’t need to identify with any generation at all. I mean, why should I? It’s just a load of propaganda.
In terms of my own experience, I’m grateful to have lived a significant portion of my adult life in the burgeoning internet, and fortunately, have maintained my independence after it’s been turned to shit by corporations.
No one gets out alive…
Scarletbegonias413@reddit
Yep. Just get on with it. There are times when adulting sucks. I will say now I know that women like me now in their 50s, need hormone replacement therapy and they need it sooner. If you are late 30s 40s and finding yourself anxious and getting diagnosed with anxiety, depression and OCD, please consider HRT. Life changing. Our mothers didn’t need mother’s little helper. They needed estrogen and progesterone.
drhappy13@reddit
You'll like this... 😂
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLA2eHihF-t
EddieKroman@reddit
My favorite at work is the younger generations are so worked up over something, and they’re in a tizzy, and they’re carrying on and on about how awful it is. And while they are doing this, I fix the problem. Usually within 5 minutes. Then I just go onto the next thing. Oh, and I did the same thing to Boomers. Fun times.
Ff-9459@reddit
Fuck that. Untreated anxiety and depression is why I have generations upon generations of alcoholics in my family. It’s the reason my aunt died of alcoholism in her 50s, and why my 60 year old uncle is about to die. It’s the reason my mom has barely left her house in a decade.
My anxiety led me to believe I had to be the “best and the brightest”, so I definitely pushed through it to become very successful. I also wanted to kill myself for the first time (but certainly not the last time) at 12. Thank God my husband finally pushed me to get help in my 40s. My kids are breaking the generational curses by getting help early, and that’s something they should be very proud of.
wamydia@reddit
There are an awful lot of people who seem to think that not wanting to talk on a phone is a diagnosable anxiety disorder when it is just something they need to get on with and get over. And there are also people who have actual medical problems that are finally being diagnosed and treated for the first time, which is a good thing. But I think the biggest culprit is that everyone, in all ages groups, is more anxious and on the verge of a nervous breakdown because of the way that world has changed over the last 40 years.
We have these huge stresses and pressures and, because of cell phones and social media, we have nowhere to go. Nowhere to escape. You can’t get away from work because they’re calling you while you’re on vacation. You can’t go out and be a young adult and do young adult things because your parents are tracking you. You can’t get online and do much of anything without being bombarded by ads, influencers, and people you know rubbing their success in your face or trying to convince you to buy something or how you should think about something. You can’t go sit in a park because Karen saw something on Facebook and thinks you must be a pedo so she calls the cops. There are very few “third places” left to hang out because everyone lives online and doesn’t want to leave their house anymore. Hell, most of us can barely afford to even go sit in a restaurant to have dinner with friends. We’re building up all this stress and worry and have nowhere to discharge it. It’s not a surprise to me that young people who have not had time to build coping skills are a neurotic mess.
Sapriste@reddit
This isn't a lack of grit on the part of anyone or a blessing of fortitude. This has a lot to do about where society is and the problems of the moment. When most of GenX was coming up if you got into an altercation with another kid, you could physically fight, no one would take it too far, no one had a weapon, and you could shake and be civil about it later (most of the disagreements were BS by the way). But in reaction to this behavior and a few school shootings we suddenly have zero tolerance kids and that thought process was extended. This is how you get, I feel this and I feel that from them because once you bubble wrap the fighting and extend the idea, you insulate them from an array of discomforts that no one intended to remove from life.
rimshot101@reddit
My older brother (just as Gen X as I am) started to develop a generalized anxiety in his 50s. Everyone told him he needed to suck it up and get on with it. He couldn't and now he's gone.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
I’m so sorry.
Hotchi_Motchi@reddit
This whole "Adulting is so hard" thing is so grating to me. You went to the bank and grocery shopping and you want acknowledgement? No.
Same with the explosion of "anxiety." We had that too, but it was called "butterflies in the stomach." It meant that you were unsure what was about to happen. You did it, the butterflies went away, and you moved on.
Thus endeth the sermon; now get off my lawn.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
“Butterflies in the stomach” is not even remotely the same as anxiety.
FrauAmarylis@reddit
Anxiety is a natural feeling, not to be shunned.
The strategy to use is to Finish the What If thoughts to a satisfactory end.
Here’s an example: “What if” the client gets angry? Then calmly apologize for them being upset and explain how you are following company policy, and explain the next steps, and ask if they have more questions, and last, offer to have them speak to a manager.
And remind yourself that the more you do it, the easier it will become.
We All have anxiety. We all have to manage it or risk being unemployed or making our lives harder from avoidant behavior.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
No, definitely not. I spent years in the mentality of “the more you do it, the easier it will become”. I “pushed throug my anxiety to be extremely high achieving. It never became easier. It became harder and harder until I almost snapped. There’s 0 shame to getting help and realizing that sometimes pushing through causes way more damage.
No-Serve-5298@reddit
In the 90’s we got nervous. We did not get anxiety. It’s just a little nerves kids. It’s natural
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
Speak for yourself. Plenty of us got anxiety. Thankfully I’m still alive. Many of my friends and classmates are not.
Friendly-Airport-232@reddit
Yup all my friends had crippling anxiety or ADHD as teens.
We didn’t need no therapy or meds! Nope.
We did drugs in the bus to school, drank heavily, passed out in fields at 15 when we were supposed to be “sleeping over” our friends houses. Slept around in high school, teen pregnancy, I know quite a few of my husbands friends are in jail, dead, or just getting by as 50 year old men.
Teenagers now may need anxiety meds but they get nervous lying about how much their latte cost while I stared at my mom and lied about being 100 miles away all weekend without the slightest concern. None of my kids friends are sleeping around or drinking. They get mad if a friend vapes 🤣
We were not and are not ok. No need to cripple this generation with poor coping skills and lifelong addictions.
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
This is the best response.
AMMJ@reddit
Ha!
I have 4-5 nieces and nephews that say this…
I love saying, “Great! I love hiring sensitive folks like you! $10/hour good?”
As they are my family, I then say…You fuckers realise you are competing with a fuck ton of other kids with ambition…do you want to report to them, or be the boss? As a boss, let me tell you, it’s better to be in charge!”
Don’t know if it works at all, but I’m trying
Electronic_Syrup7592@reddit
I’ve suffered from anxiety and depression my entire life, leading me to want to end things multiple times. There are many ways my anxiety presents itself, some worse than others. Talking on the phone to people I’m not close to has always been anxiety inducing. How about we don’t make fun of younger people with the same problems? Yeah, I’ve had to “push through”, but there’s been multiple times when I didn’t have the will to push through and wanted to end it. Kudos to the younger generations for protecting their mental health when and where they can.
NowWeAllSmell@reddit
I live in discomfort to this day. I feel even more anxiety when things are going well b/c I think the hammer is already on its way and I've missed the signs.
JiminPA67@reddit
I am a college professor and deal with this with 18-22 year old all the time. I think the anxiety is real, but they have NO IDEA about how to deal with it (except to not deal with anything). And the harsh reality (for our generation) is that WE never taught them what they should be doing.
Soup4MyFamilia@reddit
I think more and more people are going to be suffering from higher rates of anxiety as we plunge through the death throws of capitalism.
Strong_Mulberry789@reddit
I think if my anxiety disorder had actually been validated and properly treated early on, I may not be frozen in fear as a 51 year old. Anxiety is very real and we need to believe people, no matter their generation.
There is a lot to be anxious about these days and yes I still have to push through a lot of the time but more and more I'm giving myself permission to say no and ask for accomodations.
Anxiety and high stress levels have me dealing with some serious and potentially life threatening health issues. Put your mental health first, the rest is productivity propaganda, your worth is not attached to your level of productivity or how often you push through despite what our Boomer parents told us.
Rich_Forever5718@reddit
They didn't really have good non-addictive drugs for many of these things when we were young. Now they do. There should really be no reason for someone to not be able to move forward with their lives in many cases. People on reddit preface their odd behavior with their conditions. It's an excuse. If you know you have a treatable condition, then go get it treated instead of coping out.
Strong_Mulberry789@reddit
Not all mental health conditions are curable or treatable and most psychoactive medications have serious side effects. It's not about making excuses, sometimes all you can do is manage your symptoms as best you can. The expectation to fix everything with medication is a bit unrealistic and just puts more pressure on people who are already struggling. No one wants to be anxious, no one is choosing to sit in anxiety or any other mental health issues. People with these health concerns are often isolated and vulnerable, so expecting them to just get better already is unfair, life is not that simple.
Rich_Forever5718@reddit
There is no way that so many people have untreatable or life inhibiting mental conditions. Maybe it's just the reddit demographic that leans so heavily on their mental conditions. Everyone's a little fucked up in the head. It's not life changing or keeping you from moving forward in life like OP is saying.
Not_thereal_Moeflam@reddit
'productivity propaganda' is so true! Thank you for sharing, hadn't heard that before. As a Gen X person working in tech, I feel like I'm swirling in that everyday... it's such crap. BTW, all the best for your health issues, sorry to hear that. 🍻
ynfive@reddit
In the 80s we called it dehumanization
ynfive@reddit
Hear hear! I feel as a generation we were able to recognize true success is about personal growth and happiness, not what you are and what you own or how hard you work, but it is so burned into American culture of consumerism I really haven't seen any following generation escaping it. All that stuff is force fed to us to keep us buying and keep us working to make someone else 'successful'.
Tiny-Adhesiveness287@reddit
Part of me is proud of millennials and genz for saying no to crazy abusive workplaces and having boundaries in general - but man there are definitely times where I’m like girl you have GOT to put on your big girl pants and carry on.
RealTigerCubGaming@reddit
Mid 40’s and I couldn’t deal anymore and didn’t know why. I’d had enough and attempted to end it all. After 10 days in a coma I woke up angry that it didn’t work. A husband that adored and supported me, 7 years of therapy, meds, a cardiac event and the knowledge required to accept my past for what it was, my past. 15 years on and my life is not easy but it’s my life now. Every day becoming more like the person I want to be not the person I needed to be to survive. All thanks to my horrible unloving and uncaring parents. Life goes on and if you’re lucky it gets better every day. ❤️
O-Seal@reddit
Been around over half a century in your bio, mid 40’s in this comment…hmmm. 🤔
SnowblindAlbino@reddit
I work with 18-22 year olds on a daily basis and have for the past 35+ years. There has been an incredible explosion of self-diagnosed "anxiety" around just about anything you can imagine, ranging from talking to humans to taking exams to using a bathroom without a locking door. It has rendered some young people largely unable to function. Obviously some/many people have actual, diagnosable anxiety disorders but it seems just as obvious that many of these folks have seen a tik tock or youtube vid about anxiety and are claiming to have it about anything that is remotely unpleasant in their lives as an excuse. "I can't take the chemistry exam because it gives me anxiety, can I be excused?"
It's disturbing, and leaves me very worried for some of these people as they move into their lives/careers in their 20s and find out the hard way that most employers won't accept "anxiety" as a reason to not do your job.
notabadkid92@reddit
Yeah self medicating with drugs and alcohol was the way to go. Are you joking? I had depression from at least 7 or 8. By the time I was 16 I was in an inpatient adolescent psych hospital.
eoecho@reddit
I was diagnosed with anxiety at age 47. Before that I just assumed that being a chronic nervous wreck at all times was just normal for everyone
twi_tch@reddit
baby gen x/xennial here, 45yo.
after i quit drinking in 2017 my anxiety got So Bad.
my doc prescribed escitalopram (lexapro), and that helped. for a while.
then i started having panic attacks. i was given propranolol. it helped. for a while.
2023 i decided i wanted off the lexapro, my doctor greenlit titrating down on my own 😅
had a emotional mental breakdown that thanksgiving so bad i needed emergency mental health services. finally got the help i have been needing my entire adult life.
i now have dx for PTSD (really cptsd but that is not in the dsm), GAD, ADHD, and borderline personality disorder.
i suspect autism as well, but only bc ive been peer review diagnosed lololol
oh, and perimenopause hit me like a fkn freight train this year. i am barely holding it together most days.
but anyway, what’s the meme? “we didn’t have autism in MY day…but my mom had a cabinet full of special dishes that you did not use under any circumstances under penalty of death.” 😆
1singhnee@reddit
Considering the ancient Greeks described anxiety as a reaction to the modern world, I don’t think we invented it…
dodadoler@reddit
Pussies
JediRebel79@reddit
I used to be like that as a early teen. Ill always remember my grandfather saying "theres no such thing as cant!" Im 46 now and i have acheieved so much in life. My nickname at work is the Jedi because people dont understand how i get jobs done when nobody else can. Its all about mindset. Love you Poppa RIP 🌹 Ill always be grateful ❤️
Think_Leadership_91@reddit
Well I sought out treatment for my anxiety- and it took several years and lots of money
Beautiful_Rhubarb@reddit
Yup. Floundered for years and developed lots of coping skills and a healthy "oh shut the fuck up if I can overcome this so can your sissy ass" attitude to go with it , sorry charlies.. I realize that's not healthy but also it's not fair either but on the other hand I feel smarter and more resourceful for it.
TopspinG7@reddit
I'm not personally on medication but I understand some people need it, or at least for a period of time. My kids however are both more stressed in their late twenties than I was, despite being raised in a home with parents who get along relatively well - whereas I was an only child in a home with two parents who could barely communicate with each other, and probably should have divorced years earlier.
I think the difference is partly the relentless drumbeat of bad news on social media and 24/7 news outlets. Back then once the nightly news was off, I pretty much stopped worrying about far-flung wars and focused on my job in Tech, moved to California (still then semi-affordable), and soon got married. No worries about AI, robots, Climate change, cyber security, crypto hacking, or even keeping apps updated: no cell phones, no laptops, no autonomous taxis, not even an Internet yet in the early 80's. No DMs, no texts, not even email!
Even once things began to spin up in the early '90s it was a gradual transition not an onslaught.
Now we're bombarded with so much content it's almost overwhelming, and it's expensive. (UHD and OLEDs are grand, but how many hours every day do you want to stare at a flashing box?)
I've found even WFH has its tradeoffs. Now you compete against 1000 applicants for a remote job instead of 50 or less. My last boss was great, but she lives in Amsterdam. Her boss was in Australia. Even an online meeting was a challenge. I basically never met anyone in my area through work I wanted to hang with after 2008.
Of course starting out I benefitted from being white (in USA), male, college-educated, and healthy (oh yeah everyone with any job had good health care). Which pretty much put me among the "elite" unless I really screwed up (which I somewhat did much later).
Life WAS simpler. Yes there were some disadvantages but overall I would argue by the time we reached 2000, societal complexity was accelerating and the overall pace of work was also, leading to a lot of the stress-induced problems people now in their thirties and forties struggle with daily.
Which is part of why my brilliant older kid, age 28, who has an excellent college education and speaks multiple languages - among many talents - works 30 hours/week in a nearby public library, and has no ambition to "move up" or manage people. They disbelieve in the corporate structure and don't value material gain. They get union benefits, and go home and forget about the job entirely.
I do not believe we as humans are "wired" to deal with the levels of complexity and change we are now confronted by in our society. I think some of us are stretching ourselves via medication (legal or not) because we feel trapped in circumstances we can't escape, or often even control; but the long-term results are unknown. My kid was coping with difficult living circumstances by using a lot of pot and playing video games relentlessly. Once they achieved a much better living situation they realized they were addicted and entered a twelve step program. They're doing better but there are other issues for them (besides money being tight) for which they're still on some prescription meds.
In summary I think we've created a bunch of rabbit holes. Some have fallen down them, others are close and just hanging on. Meds can help, but is there a cost? For some I think only a major life change is a valid long-term solution. I understand that's not always a feasible thing. I just hope people realize medication can help but isn't necessarily a "magic bullet"? I think our society and our expectations need to change.
ynfive@reddit
We did worried about all that, but it stayed in our sci-fi movies as a remote probably not gonna happen warming. As I type this in my handheld glowing touchscreen device that is wirelessly beamed everything from articles to music to videos, I realize we really are really living in some form of the future we warned ourselves about decades ago, but how would we have known exactly which one? Obviously we aren't living in the same dystopian mid-3020s portrayed in The Running Man, are we? Did vigilance against the warnings pay off? But damn it makes me uncomfortable how much crap it still nailed to think we should have seen it coming. And where's our flying cars dammit.
GoodyOldie_20@reddit
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optidave1313@reddit
Whatcha mean 'had to'? That's status quo...
EstimateAgitated224@reddit
I have two conflicting feelings on the issue. Yes, I feel that they are soft a LOT. But I also think they have a different knowledge base than us. We did not know shit about anxiety doesn't mean we did not have it. Now I can get pills for my dog. FFS
mjh8212@reddit
I have borderline personality disorder anxiety and depression all diagnosed in my teen years. My family was very let’s not talk about it on my mother side. Instead they talked about what a horrible person I was even though it was largely my untreated mental disorders. I have social anxiety but worked customer service jobs and was good at it. I just sucked it up and did what I had to do. My therapists have all been shocked I’ve worked in customer service without confrontations or being fired. Eventually in my late thirties I finally found a med regimen that worked and I did behavioral therapy. I’m a completely different person now you wouldn’t even tell I have borderline. As far as anxiety my meds help but I still hate making phone calls or being in a crowd.
Bubbly-Swimming7357@reddit
I’ve freaking grinded thru on sheer grit & ignorance but that was stupid. Counseling would have helped me. Meanwhile, my Gen Z kid is in therapy because Trader Joe’s discontinued his favorite powdered matcha. Maybe our generations can meet in the middle.
ConstructionVisual68@reddit
The key is we had to deal with it. For me it was grow up and get a job (at 16) or go hungry and homeless. I know countless others who had to do the same thing. Some were successful, others went to drugs and prison.
Anxiety was something we couldn’t acknowledge. Plus no one gave a shit if we had it or not.
Dismal_Estate9829@reddit
I was told I was lazy in junior high, I aced all my tests but the concept of homework did not compute. I stayed back a grade and in 11th grade I turned 18 and learned I could sign myself out of school and immediately left. In my 20’s I did a research study in Cambridge mass and was diagnosed with ADHD, they wanted me to do a new form of Ritalin trial but I’m nervous about medications and left the study. Just having the diagnoses helped me overcome some issues and led a more productive life but now in my 50’s I feel like I’m going backwards. Partly because of a midlife crisis but I believe the ADHD is making things worse. I’ve been contemplating going to see a mental health provider and being more open to meds but the Bostonian gen x’er in me wants to tell myself to toughen up and stop being a bitch! lol. But in all seriousness, I’m closer to dying at this age and figured what could it hurt to see what the drugs can do?
AnxiousConsequence18@reddit
See, I see today's world as an over reaction to our generations "f u whatever" attitude.
We started using the term "adulting" to differentiate between our "party but also work" normal life and actually getting our responsibilities taken care of. Today, kids are OBSESSED with "work life balance". Boomers WORKED, and sometimes partied. We did both, and I think we did it well.
Other things I see just look like some idiot left something in a Genesis hands and they just "whatever"d it.
GlrsK0z@reddit
One thing I actually admire about these new generations is that they are honest about their feelings, emotions and boundaries. Hell I did not even learn to identify those things until sometime over the last decade. I will say, I use my experiences of sucking it up and doing the damn thing scared to share with my kids how sometimes that is the bravest thing you can do. I am hoping for more balance in generations to come. All this repressed trauma is no bueno.
GuitarHeroInMyHead@reddit
Our generation is the "suck it up" generation. I am not saying that was always good - there were people with legitimate issues that were ignored. However, I think we have way overcompensated. Younger generations have grown up with instantaneous criticism, trolling and hate for any thought they share online...no wonder they are twitchy.
I think so much of the anxiety people talk about today is self-inflicted
bird9066@reddit
We used drugs. A lot of also had kids young. I became a single mom of two at 23.
I got on with it because I needed to house and feed two little humans
I'm falling apart mentally now though
RussianDahl@reddit
Giving you big internet stranger hugs!! I hope you get some relief from your trauma. I can’t believe it but gardening and bird watching has been what has been healing for me. And I was ratchet back in the day lol and here I am at 49 finally accepting my demons and just trying to be in bed by 9 pm
bird9066@reddit
OMG. Look at my comment history. It's all about birds.
I have a single tomato plant at the newish house. ( Names Fred) I'm trying to get back into art, but it's not there right now.
Thank you for the kind words.
RussianDahl@reddit
Omgosh you do have so many birds! May Fred harvest you some delicious tomatoes this summer 🍅🦜🫶🏽
_flowerfox@reddit
From the time I was 2 till 22, I was raised in a family where constant fear of being abused in a myriad of ways was real life. If you looked at my family though you would think everything was okay. A lot of us lived in that. It took me years to be okay with just walking into a therapist's office without thinking I was going to be beat afterwards..... AS AN ADULT. Now, think of parents having kids with backgrounds like mine. Parents, through DNA, give there kids generational trauma too. Didn't realize why I was so suicidal till I found out both my parents tried to off themselves a decade before I was born. I am now 50. No one wants to test me for ADHD because I am "too old". I have CPTSD, GAD, probably have ADHD.... my stomach aches and stress butterflies didn't stop till my mid 30s. I don't fault the younger generations for having the issues they do.... THEY go/went to school everyday thinking they might be shot by a classmate. That's f'd up, but society really hasn't shown any effort to correct that issue to make kids feel safe. So, I don't judge them for their anxiety issues.... I think it's a horrible reflection of how society has been so lax in correcting the issue or helping kids more. A gun has more rights than most people in this country and y'all are giving kids, young adults shit for their anxiety? Please! Stop blaming the kids for adults not doing their job protecting them! That's the root problem! For decades, half of America has been saying "f your feelings" in so many certain ways, but then wondering why younger people have anxiety issues? Open your eyes, some of our parents were shit people due to their upbringing, so on and so forth.... break the generational BS and let's start actually caring and taking care of people instead of just saying..... suck it up and deal. That doesn't work! Answers right in front of your face yet most refuse to admit they see it.
stormer1_1@reddit
Amen
sweetpsych78@reddit
Yes, THANK YOU!!
ynfive@reddit
We didn't really have the benefit of knowing what anxiety is in a medical sense. Mild anxiety was treated as a passing emotional phase and never considered a potential chronic illness. We dealt with it because we had to, but mostly not in healthy ways like drugs or drinking, and were naive in recognizing that even mild chronic anxiety was negatively impacting daily life decisions and well-being.
I knew since I was a kid that something never felt right or something wasn't normal, but it wasn't until my mid 30s that I started having panic attacks that I finally looked into my suspicions and started getting treated. That's what our generation does is try to power through until shit hits the fan. If I knew and got treated starting in my early teens when I first recognized it debilitated my ability to make healthy or important choices like getting a job, making friends, or completing homework assignments, I probably would have been better equipped in my first adulting years. Yes There were plenty of times I did manage to suck it up and make bold defining scary choices, but there were plenty of times I'd just crumble feeling helpless and dissociated. Fixing the latter would likely have given me back my entire 20s spent in poverty and addiction.
I do have Gen Z family members now that openly describe themselves as having anxiety. It definitely runs in the family. The crazy thing is I don't see them doing anything about it when there is so much less stigma and so much more support and science backed therapies to treat it. Drugs and drinking aren't 'cool' anymore to this generation like it was ours, which is weird but have to admit a good thing. But something seems to have not changed is the naivety that actual effective help does exist and can make a big difference.
Careless_Lion_3817@reddit
Wow. This post screams Boomer AF
FlippingPossum@reddit
I'm happy my oldest turned to therapy instead of self-medicating. Yay for early intervention and college counseling!
I see a lot of survivorshop bias when I think about how things were. Not everyone was able to suck it up.
radiantwave@reddit
Lol... This is the definition of being an adult, suck it up and get it done. I cannot tell you how often I get in trouble for saying, "Get over it!"
Having been a lifeguard, an EMT, a Cop, in road construction internationally... The whole time having a background in software development... I am now dealing with new gen developers having too much stress.
I am like, "Dude, it is fricken code... Get over it and fix it. We have a release tomorrow and you are bringing this to me NOW!?"
I blame it on people telling kids they can do anything they want to for decades... And when they go to do it, they have no experience or faith in themselves to learn it on the fly.
I think GenX learned to do while doing and as such we have this faith in ourselves to "figure it out" on the fly that other generations never developed.
whereugoincityboy@reddit
Anxiety turned me into a raging alcoholic and ruined my life. Of course some people will use it as an excuse but that's always been true. The kids are ok.
412_15101@reddit
We’re on a pendulum swing. We went from no parental involvement to GenX being helicopter parents.
In that we also went from suck it up to over diagnosing so that the next gen didn’t have to suffer like we did.
Now we have a generation that hopefully will make the next one more middle of the road on all of it.
We over compensated for a lot of shit that made us who we are as a generation.
For those with grandkids I hope you’re there to help educate them on how to better manage things. It’s okay to be a bit nervous to make a phone call instead of “oh honey it’s anxiety and you don’t need to do that..”
I know we all tried to make life better but didn’t see the outcomes we’re now facing with the gentler generations. We made a point of learning from our mistakes and we do have time and importance to help those coming behind us
Vicodin-ES@reddit
motorik@reddit
Bullying. It was just accepted that some kids are going to bullied. When I was in kindergarten, a group of the other boys held me down and beat my head against the cement. I was sent home with a bandage on my forehead and I still distinctly remember taking if off and seeing a red impression of the pavement texture. I don't remember any indication from my parents about this being upsetting or unusual, just another day of the week ending in 'y', at least I didn't get and blood on my clothing, that would have been a punishment. It wasn't just the kids, teachers would bully the unpopular kids as well, I had multiple teachers that made it clear they had a particular dislike for me and made my life difficult whenever they could. I moved as far away as I could as soon as I was able, another Gen X not particularly close with their family.
bellydncr4@reddit
I think the key is to differentiate teaching grit versus denial and gas lighting, which happened a lot with GenX. You can raise resilient kids without being negligent. You do that with checking in, giving support, but also expecting perseverance. That last part is what's lacking these days. Now we took it too far where i think Burnout is the number one issue we suffer from because of being told to just suck it up and push through on our own. Healthy grit, but knowing when it's too much and taking caring of yourself and leaning on support is the right balance. What some GenX thought was "being taught to be tough and independent" was in fact lazy parenting and checking out. ie Cue kids being told they were stupid and getting punished for failing English when in fact they were dyslexic.
watch-nerd@reddit
Life is hard and then you die
These_Hair_193@reddit
The point of diagnosis is to understand what's going on and to help people function better. These days, people use diagnosis as a reason not to function.
STGItsMe@reddit
I kind of admire the younger generations inclination to say “fuck this shit” to things that don’t suit them. Most of the things we and the boomers just tend to suck it up for aren’t worth it at all.
Such-Departure-1357@reddit
We never talked about discomfort or problems you had because I knew the only advice I would get would be to suck it up. It caused us to deal with all the shit but as others have mentioned, therapy was a game changer
LadybugGal95@reddit
I am both a parent to teenagers and work in a school building with 8th and 9th graders. I am convinced they do not know how to correctly identify their feelings. I hear scared when it should be nervous all the time. I also think their brains are like little hamsters on wheels. They get stuck on something and just can’t breathe and let it go.
That said I do think they have a better handle on taking care of your mental health. They just need to get to the point where they can do things that intimidate/worry/frighten them. That’s life.
EF_Boudreaux@reddit
I have been sober for over 26 years. I’ve been treated for CPTSD. I listen to younger folks cancel, Karen, and generally not mount up to face life’s challenges. I have empathy some days.
Some days I don’t. Get over yourself. That challenge will simply present itself further on down the line. Lean in.
I’ve found reparenting myself to be most helpful. However the younger generation is just not ready. It seems to be midlife that I’m open to racing into the unknown with my fear and dread. I can only lead by example.
arabrab12@reddit
Gen X here with debilitating anxiety due to adhd. I sucked it up and did things and had a breakdown last fall. I have encouraged my gen z daughter to seek a similar diagnosis because I see the same thing in her. Rather than normalizing what we went through and rolling our eyes at younger generations who are struggling, why don’t we encourage them to get the help they need earlier. I only wish I could have gotten the help I needed 30 years ago, but here I am a 51 year old woman who FINALLY feels somewhat normal for the first time ever. Let me repeat that . Ever. It’s life changing.
BeBopBarr@reddit
🙋♀️ and I am forever telling my kids to suck it up. I have a chronic illness and if I just gave up every time I didn't feel good, I'd literally never get out of bed. That said, I am the way that I am (constantly sucking it up because that's how I was raised. You went to school unless you had a fever or vomit/diarrhea. This "everyone's a winner" generation just makes me shake my head. While I can see the value of taking care of your mental health, that doesn't give you an excuse every time something is too hard.
Designer-Mirror-7995@reddit
I'm GLAD people no longer have to "just suck it up" and I'm GLAD that mindset is dead!
LastPalpitation9576@reddit
It was a suck it up buttercup or I'll beat you until u put a smile on your face mentality, I was severely add as a kid, and both my parents wrote it off as me being a problem child, just two illiterate stupid selfish motherfuckers that didn't want to know better....
Z3R0GR4V@reddit
I developed actual real anxiety about 10 years ago and still suffer from it. Up until then, I didn't even know what it was.
It holds me back from doing the most basic stuff now. I haven't been on a Freeway in years now, because I have panic attacks. I believe all the new frequencies are the issue. Cell towers and what not.
I don't know what's up with the kids these days. Everyone is now autistic and a furry or whatever. But what I have is real and sucks.
HeyItsSmyrna@reddit
I mean, I get it. I struggle with this with my own kids. I didn't get diagnosed with ADHD until my mid 20s. My kid has anxiety. We're doing all the stuff you're supposed to to mediate it but, there's a part of me that sort of thinks kids today seem to think if they're not on a permanent baseline of feeling 'fine', something is wrong with them. Hell, how can you not be anxious all the time right now? If you can function normally and it's not crippling, is that not just learning to cope with life and manage your emotions? And please, do not think I don't acknowledge that sometimes it's more than just learning to cope- I understand. This is why I am trying to help my kid mediate this instead of telling them to suck it up as I was.
CyndiIsOnReddit@reddit
I think they have more to be anxious about to be honest. Our lives back then weren't as exposed. We lived far more insular lives, and we often feared the adults and that was called "respecting your elders".
I also think many of us who did have to get on with it suffered and struggled unnecessarily. We weren't diagnosed with real conditions we were trying to deal with as children without adult help. We were teased by our parents for being too sensitive, and me, I was literally diagnosed by a school psychologist with "nervous girl syndrome" marked by being quiet, studious, and high strung but nothing was done about it, I just had to get on with it, and I started getting on with it by staying high through most of my teen years. I got pregnant and all that ended, so I had to get on with it sober. And that's when I flailed. Still flailin over here!
Megatapirus@reddit
My take it that I think it behooves a person to approach the question with a certain degree of humility. I'm no qualified mental health practitioner and am in no way qualified to weigh in on who has a "real" impairing mental disorder and who just needs to buckle down and cultivate some resilience or whatever. I don't think it would proper be pretend otherwise just because it feels good to be judgemental and pat myself on the back for my supposed superiority.
WillingNail3221@reddit
Reading all these comments I think our generation wasn't functioning near as well as we thought
Johoski@reddit
I remember anxiety that felt like people were looking, people were laughing, that felt like I was walking on a ledge and at risk of falling.
I went on an SSRI and the gut-sinking feeling went away, but the root of the anxiety was planted in a difficult relationship that I was deadset on making it work. Some skillful talk therapy would have helped me a lot, but I'm not sure that therapists were as knowledgeable then as they are today.
Anyhow, even when I felt my worst, I put on my clothes and lived my life. Terrified and on edge, but doing it anyway.
gringo-go-loco@reddit
Modern western mental health treatment methods are for the most part not effective. Therapy and meds are basically a subscription service for a number of existence. We basically have made treatment more about making money than actually helping people. A good % of our drugs are as effective as the placebo and those drugs (SSRIs) have side effects that lower the overall quality of life.
profcate@reddit
There are people with real anxiety issues and they deserve some leeway.
BUT! Now mental health issues have become an excuse and like a badge of honor. Younger gens openly disclose their list of mental issues to anyone and it immediately gives them a hall pass.
MedsNotIncluded@reddit
Idk.. is it that normal to have a broken home as GenX (‘78 myself)?
Mom died when I was ten, dad lost custody. Also lost his mind a bit and we were taken into protective custody etc.
Subsequent move overseas to be entirely out of reach (multi-nationals.. military kids.,) my sis (‘72) went off the edge with sex, drugs and rock & roll (literally) and overdosed in ‘94 after our dad shot himself back in the US a few months earlier.. leaving just me at age 15 wondering wtf is going on and why I should give a fuck if I live or die or whatever.. turns out that I got older than anyone else in my immediate family.. idk why..
the_befuss@reddit
Wow. You should write autobiography. What a life you've lived.
MedsNotIncluded@reddit
It’s actually a lot darker.. I chose to omit the more extreme situations
the_befuss@reddit
Jesus. Yep, I bet your life would make an excellent biography.
Tigrisrock@reddit
I had two or three major incidents in my life where I was completely down. Burnout, depressed, anxious whatever I was basically empty and completely incapable of getting shit done. Without the help of my friends or family I wouldn't have been able to overcome this very low moments. Never went to a shrink, now everyone goes to the emergency room if they just got a papercut on the finger.
Fulghn@reddit
Nope. One of those high achieving misanthropes that worked their ass off through their 40s bulling my way through office politics, impossible hurry up, wait, panic schedules, collapsing economies, overly competitive markets, and suffocating regulators - and decided the best course of action was to put a gun in the mouth of my career and pull the trigger. I truely became the t-shirt slogan "Unwilling, led by the unknowing, doing the impossible for the ungrateful"
Now I live far, far more happily on investments made during the high income years, odd jobs, and doing things myself for thousands instead of paying someone else tens of thousands to do it. "Having done so much, for so long, with so little, I can now do anything with nothing."
West-Cabinet-2169@reddit
I sort of feel that the hardships and feeling anxiety, and being perhaps neurotic sometimes and the stress was just part and parcel of life. I am a high school teacher, and when I explain what MY daily routine was like as a 16-18 year old "Senior" as Americans call Yrs 11-12, my students are shocked. No, no mobile phone or parents tracking me. I walked 15-20 minutes to the bus stop. There was only one bus, and if I missed it, there was trouble. Likewise in the afternoon, there was one bus from my high school (one of heaps of buses that traversed the region picking up and dropping kids off to school), which could not be missed. A lot of the time my Mum struggled to pay the bills, the car needed fixing, the on-going foreverness of my mother's ferocious attempts at renovating... knowing that we were on the poorer end spectrum of our small regional town, but nowhere near the poorest. We may not have had a microwave or a dishwasher, but we did travel to Melbourne every year.
dog4cat2@reddit
When I got older, I was speaking with a medical professional and describing some things that I experienced and how I figured out how to deal with them. They basically said I had a general anxiety disorder, but they would not treat it because I had already figured it out. I think many are correct when they say we did not have the support to "have problems" and treat them, so we figured out how to deal with them and moved on.
sprocket1234@reddit
I believe my husband has ADHD, he self medicated with alcohol. So I'm married to an alcoholic who won't get treatment for the adhd/ stress
emccm@reddit
Finding it grating that others have to suffer is a sign you need therapy to process your unresolved issues. I am happy for young people that they are able to acknowledge their issues and insist on accommodations. Life shouldn’t be about sucking it up.
It never ceases to amaze me that people walk around all “it was hard for me so it should be hard for you”. It’s such a shitty attitude. Things were hard for me. I go out of my way to make sure my experiences make it easier for others.
You only have to spend a short time with people of our generation to see how messed up and traumatized many are. I work in a young industry and it’s so refreshing to be around self aware people.
the_befuss@reddit
I think the point was more about using mental illness as an excuse to avoid things that older generations had no viable excuses to avoid. So basically, jealousy.
ellephantjones@reddit
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Narrow_Market_7454@reddit
55m, Had anxiety my whole life till about 6-7 years ago it went away. I attribute it to learning more about what is really going on in the world good and bad and understanding that there’s only so much I can do about anything and accepting it. For some reason that worked for me. Good luck out there.
Rey_Mezcalero@reddit
Still having to suck it up and get on with it
Dionysiac777@reddit
Nothing ever made a dent in my anxiety, which was a 24/7 issue. I didn’t need anything to be anxious about; it was just there. There was no avoiding it. There was no avoiding life/work/etc. so, I just got on with it.
Then, at 47, I was diagnosed with (fairly severe) ADHD. 2nd day on stimulants and the anxiety evaporated. Now, I get anxious when there is something to be anxious about.
Of course, 4ish decades of hyper vigilance created its own problems, but I can learn to manage that. I have no idea how I made it happen before this, though. Crazy.
sunningmybuns@reddit
Unless you’ve been there, it sounds like you haven’t- I wouldn’t be too judgey
acanis73@reddit
Eqch one of us?
pplatt69@reddit
Remember, as culture moves on, it learns to talk about things that were always there, but for which there were no terms or ready common paths to understanding and discussing.
Good for you, you don't suffer from acute anxiety. How nice for you. I don't either. I'm totally able to accommodate or try to help others through such things without judging them as lesser.
kayparkersbiggestfan@reddit
How would Gen X have invented anxiety? Boomers and the Silent Gen had waaaaaaaay more to be anxious about than we did.
shackspirit@reddit
We had a few things…the threat of nuclear war (which both sides played upon), AIDS, a tanking economy, sky high interest rates and unemployment in the early 90s…
We are the most suicidal generation since the early 20th century, and we have been so since we were teenagers. I’m not making that up. It’s well documented.
the_befuss@reddit
Terrorism, anthrax, bombs in the mail, cults and mass suicide, crack, bankruptcy, extreme poverty...
AriadneThread@reddit
Yep. Thinking of the 2 decades of men and women in the war in Afghanistan, Iraq. How more than one tour was always pushed on them. I saw The Hurt Locker and teared up, and I've never even served.
kayparkersbiggestfan@reddit
Of the things you mentioned, the threat of nukes was the only one with any teeth for the vast majority (in the U.S. at least). We weren't getting shipped off to war en masse, dealing with REAL economic crises, or health scares compared to other generations. I'm not saying there was nothing to be anxious about (9/11 and its aftermath sucked balls), but our parents and grandparents had it far worse.
Kangaruex4Ewe@reddit
I actually agree with this. I think each preceding generation had it worse on almost every level (but muh boomers… I don’t give a shit) than the generation after it.
We just change how we deal/dealt with those issues. Some generations had a man up attitude while others had a self care attitude. But we’ve all had something to deal with that was pretty shitty.
shackspirit@reddit
AIDS was (and is) real and for a time perceived to be indiscriminate and deadly. It certainly impacted my sexual behaviour. If I was a boomer I’d have been a different animal. And I don’t know what your economic experience was, but here in Australia in the early 90s we had interest rates in the high teens and double digit unemployment just as I and my peers were leaving university and trying to enter the workforce. I can agree people who lived through the great depression and the Second World War (my parents) had it tough, but notwithstanding Vietnam and the Cold War, boomers were overwhelmingly middle class and surrounded by prosperity.
platypus_farmer42@reddit
Definitely didn’t “invent” anxiety, but yes to having to suck it up and deal with it. It wasn’t until I was an adult and had “real” conversations with my boomer parents that I realized my mom had always suffered with crippling anxiety and my dad had bouts of serious depression. Neither one of them ever took anything or got diagnosed, they just dealt with it. Just like I did.
platypus_farmer42@reddit
Definitely didn’t “invent” anxiety, but yes to having to suck it up and deal with it. It wasn’t until I was an adult and had “real” conversations with my boomer parents that I realized my mom had always suffered with crippling anxiety and my dad had bouts of serious depression. Neither one of them ever took anything or got diagnosed, they just dealt with it. Just like I did.
CrustaceanWrangler@reddit
Mental Health wasn’t discussed when I was a kid (now 55), unless someone when super crazy and killed people. It took me ages to realise (in my 20’s) when I finally moved away from home that I suffered crippling anxiety at a child, brought about by abuse. Yeah I was like most other kids, home alone a lot, all the Gen X Stereotypes. I also had the living shit kicked out of me by my mother, psychologically abused relentlessly- it drove my behaviour as a kid - I was always the really smart but naughty kid. Some teachers were good, but a few liked taking their frustrations out on me with their fists etc. I stammered and wondered why, I had no ability to have any kind of functioning relationship with a female. It got better as I got older but like Springsteen says, you end up like a dog that’s been beat too much. I’m still recovering, I lost a brother and a sister to suicide. The only sane thing is to forgive and accept things. The mother in question is now in her 90s and frail, she’s in a home and needs help showering and shitting. She’s alone and unhappy. I m just keeping on - my own kids are great. I think what my parents would do and do the opposite. They are the greatest achievements of my life.
I think the “just suck it up” approach is so wrong, it happened sure, but god damn it how much better it would have been if some other adult had the balls to intervene.
There are plenty worse off than me, plenty. I had every toy you could want, we had a Mercedes and a huge home. To this day I have no respect for wealth and I live minimally but comfortably. I preach to my kids how stupid wanting expensive shit is.
Anyways that’s my rant….
the_befuss@reddit
God, Im so sorry you lost both your brother and sister. That's... so rough. Im sorry.
BellaFromSwitzerland@reddit
I relate to your comment entirely down to doing the exact opposite of what my parents would do. I have a great teenager, we get along well. At the time, when I was a teenager and fled at the age of 18, I felt like a war refugee. I know with today’s world events it’s not comparable but a few decades ago if anyone had asked me and if I could have been honest about it, I would have described myself as a war escapee.
CustomCarNerd@reddit
I have terrible anxiety. Did I have to do shit anyway? Yes. My favorite family portrait of mine is the day my brother learned to ride a bike. Around 1981 my dad thought it was time to teach my brother how to ride a bicycle. He wasn’t getting it fast enough for my dad apparently and my dad had enough. My brother fell over in the school parking lot for like the tenth time and my dad picked up my brother, shook him, said stop crying and hit him with the bike. My got back on with the sup-sups and quickly learned not to fall. We all got together for a family picture to celebrate my brother’s victory… tears, black eye and all. Typical weekend for my family….
Pypsy143@reddit
At 15 years old I developed a bleeding stomach ulcer from stress.
Mom took me to the doctor. His treatment plan? “You’re such a pretty girl. Don’t worry so much.”
That’s it. That’s all I got. No meds. No referrals. No strategies.
So I had to figure how to suck it up and deal with stress on my own. Which of course I did.
Now at middle age, it’s almost impossible to rattle me. I work a high stress job and constantly get comments about how “unflappable” I am, even when the shit hits the fan.
My philosophy for a long time has been, “Whatever the issue is, we can handle it. There’s no sense in getting emotional. Just work the problem.”
It’s hard for me to listen to my daughters stress about every little thing. But I try to teach them the coping strategies that nobody cared to teach me.
Mysterious-Being5043@reddit
I wasn’t diagnosed with anxiety (generalized anxiety disorder) until my 40s. I made a comment in therapy once about it “developing” and my therapist told me I most likely always had it. We went through childhood memories, and yup, always had it. I just became really, really good at internalizing it. I’m 57 now, and it’s only been in the last couple of years that I’ve felt comfortable talking to people about it. Medication & therapy saved me as an adult. My parents barely noticed if I was bleeding as a child.
DragYouDownToHell@reddit
Me and all my friends wanted to become adults. We all wanted to get our driver's licenses as soon as possible. We all wanted to move out and live on our own, and that meant getting jobs. Nobody wanted to stay home for college if they went. We wanted to get out into the world.
Most of us already had the responsibility of taking care of ourselves. We all knew how to make food, wash our clothes, change the oil in the car, repair shit, patch up skinned knees. A good number of us were already having coffee and had cigarettes for breakfast.
Yeah, I think it's cringy when I see younger generations unable to function without watch YouTube videos, or too triggered to talk on the phone. Obviously a lot of them are making it out of their parents houses and moving into productive lives. I know a handful, and I guarantee they didn't get any special boost from their parents, knowing their parents.
tjautobot11@reddit
I sucked it up for too long. Bad relationships and strained family ties and working way too many hours to avoid being at home. It all ended when i had a severe case of ulcerative colitis flare up and I can’t seem to get right since then physically or mentally.
Sadielady11@reddit
Yep had no idea I had anxiety issues just would get cold and scared to death over situations. But powered thru cause no one gave a shit.
cabbage_patch_cutie@reddit
I (52 F) was chatting with my sister once who is 4 years younger. She asked if she thought we had anxiety growing up - I said I didn't know it was a thing to "have". It was all just "stop worrying, you'll give yourself an ulcer".
SolomonGrumpy@reddit
What's the diagnosis for being generally angry all the time?
😁🤬
Green_343@reddit
"Get on with it" was the mantra my parents raised me on. As an adult I've been diagnosed with anxiety but don't take anything for it because the side effects are worse for me that the anxiety.
Sometimes I think it's so great that the younger generations are more accepting of and willing to discuss mental health struggles. I just wish they'd do it with each other and not me. I'm a professor and it's really annoying how many young people want to tell me in December that they've been struggling with their mental health all semester and can they please turn everything in late and make-up all their exams. No, I can't do 4 months of grading for you at the last minute. Not to mention, I have hundreds of students who are all constantly telling me about their mental health. Also, I'm a STEM prof and deeply unqualified to discuss mental health.
Where is the line between an anxiety patient and regular person experiencing a challenge? I wish Gen Z would work on that problem next.
mtcwby@reddit
There was definitely an attitude of suck it up and get past it. Not saying it was the best way but there's probably a balance. There's way too many excuses now and the lack of resiliency is squelching the growth of a lot of young people. We didn't get much of a choice there.
Longjumping_Today966@reddit
You're talking about the everyone gets a trophy kids, that don't have chores and had helicopter mom's that would let them climb a tree in case they fall out.
melatonia@reddit
Is it annoying? Yes. Was it annoying when the older generations insisted that our issues were bullshit when we were younger? Yes.
Gaslighting- it's the CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIIFE.
_TallOldOne_@reddit
I’m ADHD and I suppose that feeling of occasional panic would be diagnosed with “anxiety” and I definitely have and always had depression issues. Ya know what? Nobody ever held my hand, gave me special treatment in my daily life, offered any form of counseling, prescribed me prescription drugs, or any of that other stuff.
Ya know what? I lived. I even thrived. I raised a family. I took and still do take care of my elder family members. I got divorced. I got remarried. I had major life successes and HUGE failures. I’ve been poor and homeless. I’ve been a middle class owner struggling with all the bills, the college education money(mine and my kids).
The whole time I struggled with all my personal issues. No one helped. No one cared. None of that crap. I just lived life the best I could. Do I necessarily want that kind of lack of mental help for future generations? No. They should and deserve to learn from the mistakes we’ve made. They should have better healthcare than we did (mental and physical). I fully believe that. But I’m also a big believer in “stick your neck out” and taking risks. No one ever succeeds by “playing it safe” or be locked up by the fear you have looping through your head. You succeed by taking that risk. Asking that person out you’re hung up on, applying for the big job/ promotion, taking the lead on that big project, standing up in front of the crowd and speaking publicly. Sure maybe you fall flat on face in some hugely embarrassing way. Guess what? Everyone does!!! No one remembers the failure if you get back up and get it right the second time. Failures pass, success build confidence. It’s doesn’t matter if that success is in your personal life and or professional life.
Also, if you completely fuck it all up, you can always move, change your name and start over. 😂🤣
GypsyKaz1@reddit
Our generation most definitely did NOT invent anxiety. And no, we didn't immediately just deal with it, either, at least not in healthy ways. It's one thing to appreciate the resiliency many of us do have and another to pretend that we alone invented it or have some magical powers to be better than every other generation.
I think it's generally a good thing that there is more and positive focus on mental health generally. That's definitely better than the suck-it-up approach or masking. That said, yes, if used to block off action and build resiliency, that's a huge problem.
Here on Reddit (which is not a statistical sampling that can be utilized, but is good for anecdotal commentary), I see statements like "I can't do X as I have (insert type of) anxiety." And yes, that's going to block and hurt them, the "I can't" approach. It's gotten to the point that if I see that kind of statement in any Reddit post, I blow it off. The poster has already shut off all options/recommendations with the "I can't" statement. I find that as irritating and off-putting as when people respond to any recommendation with "the problem is ..."
But when I see statements like "It's challenging/difficult for me to do X as I've suffered from (insert type of) anxiety. Anyone have experience working through ...?" That's a whole different framing and one that invites engagement and indicates the commentor does not want their anxiety to be the barrier it is/has been.
Life_Transformed@reddit
Pretty much no one cared if we had anxiety, and if we said anything we were whining.
Kangaruex4Ewe@reddit
Then they’d give you something to whine about. 😩🤣
FlamingDragonfruit@reddit
Or if they were nicer, they'd simply explain to you why you had nothing to complain about and should be grateful, actually.
Reachforthesky777@reddit
I don't think our generation "invented and immediately dealt with anxiety". I'm not sure there's any basis in reality for that beyond Internet memes. Our generation has an awful lot of people who are just as impacted by anxiety as our kids and their kids, our parents and their parents. Our generation was told to toughen up and deal with it by people in denial about their own mental health issues and it seems like younger generations never quite shut up about their anxiety and mental health issues which is better than how our generation largely internalizes things.
henry_sqared@reddit
While I largely agree with this post, it's worth mentioning that anxiety was way easier to deal with pre-internet/social media. At the end of the work day, you were unplugged. Maybe you zoned out on TV, but you def didn't just scroll other people's lives and unending news feeds.
Im also a late in life ADHD diagnosis, and its def been something that's been a part of my life for a long time, but all the things were told to do about it--go outside, get more exercise, put down screens, take up hobbies--were a lot easier to do in the 90s.
mediatrips@reddit
You mean today?
doornumber123@reddit
Nothing can convince me that the dependency that this generation has on their "medicine" isn't going to come back and bite them in the ass the same way our generations dependency has. Certainly we might have the highest functioning alcoholics, but there's no way that this "brownie" (edibles) generation isn't going to be the same. At least we aren't opium denning.
eroi49@reddit
I also have ADHD but didn’t get diagnosed until my 30’s. I did not self medicate prior to my diagnosis. I learned a mental siloing technique that helped and I still use for distasteful or uncomfortable situations. Example: I also don’t love calling strangers (businesses) on the phone but I knew I had to. Even worse when I was planning my first solo trip to Europe, I had to CALL ahead to arrange rooms and whatnot, so I had to talk to people with heavy accents and limited English. Oof! I just like created a special temporary silo where I “bear down” and push my anxiety to the side for the task at hand.
JaeElleSee@reddit
My motto is “we’ll make it work.” Suck it up and get it done.
MonkeyThrowing@reddit
When you read Reddit post from the younger generations, it is wild how everything requires therapy.
ShakeWeightMyDick@reddit
Try having a little fucking compassion
nixtarx@reddit
I think 90% of the time anxiety is directly proportional to mass marketing of energy drinks.
ixtlan23@reddit
I work with at-risk teens, and I would be anxious if I were them trying to get my first place with or without roommates. Financial mistakes are easy for landlords to find, rents are much higher, and in my city, multiple months' rent are required to move in.
Party time job at a pizza restaurant and I had no problem finding good roommate situations and had money to blow on a great social life.
Positive_Chip6198@reddit
I walked around my issues into my twenties until I broke and distanced myself from everyone. It took me many years to realize something was very wrong, I’ll be working on those issues the rest of my life.
If I’m busy and useful to my kids, it fades into the background. If I’m lumbering around at home alone for a week, I just deflate, stop doing shit to function.
ThroughRustAndRoot@reddit
I think people our age were forced to suck up stuff we absolutely should not have. In turn, perhaps we allowed our own children to avoid certain activities we should not have because they were fearful. There has to be balance, but it’s not easy to get it perfectly right.
No_Owl_250@reddit
\^\^THIS!!!!!!!
Reasonable-Panic-680@reddit
Not sure what I have but a THC gummie 2x a day with a evening dab works for me.
mlvalentine@reddit
I think it's both. I wasn't diagnosed with anxiety until my late 40s. But, I still sucked it up and got on with things until I couldn't anymore. (Mid-life crisis is real, yo.) But, now that I have the tools, I am sucking it up and getting back to it.
What I do see is an issue is that any chance of something "hard" that is an opportunity for personal growth or failure? People are actively avoiding. And that's a problem.
cranberries87@reddit
I have raging ADHD, was actually diagnosed as a young kid in the early 80s. But there wasn’t much in the way of treatment, and my parents didn’t take it that seriously. I just had to limp along and do the best I could, take my lumps (poor grades, failed classes) and make my own strategies as the years went along. Things turned out okay.
Common_Poetry3018@reddit
Anxiety is a real thing and I don’t want to minimize that, but one of my favorite stories is of a girl who was on a high dive. She was terrified to jump. She stood at the top, trying to gather her courage, when an older woman at the side of the pool shouted, “just do it scared!” That’s pretty much been my approach to my professional life challenges. I just do it scared.
elijuicyjones@reddit
Yes obviously our generation’s feelings were never taken seriously. I’m not eager to repeat those mistakes so it’s okay for young people to have feelings and talk about them.
cosmoboy@reddit
We didn't invent it. I can see now that my parents were riddled with anxieties and that's why they lived the way they did. I'm glad that the younger generations can be open about it but at the same time, it does seem to be used as a crutch.
windmill-tilting@reddit
So, while everyone talks about how they internalized their issue, I'm that ugly part of it we seem to forget. No one is coming to save us. I'm sure at this point I could make a good point for being undiagnosed something, self medicated, and failing health. In 1988 make 5.15/hr with no health insurance and no social safety nets and nowhere near the nuanced mental health care we have today, what the fuck were we supposed to do? We survived or we died. Autism? They would had called you fe3ble or simple or worse. Anxiety? To be fair, Xanax was everywhere but was Mother's Little Helper the answer? We sucked it up because we had no other choice. Thankfully, some learned, and some found a way and showed others. We are a bette,r society because ours was able to suck it up, like all the ones before us, but Generation X said no more. So gang, suck it up. No one is coming to save us.
gotchafaint@reddit
I’m glad there is more mental health awareness. It has helped me and one of my kids to know it’s not a personal issue but a wiring issue. But I’m also grateful to have the grit that seems to be so lacking these days. I think a good dose of that is helpful for mental health.
psiprez@reddit
Elder X here. I had Silent Generation parents.
Silent until I dareth to not just suck it up. They made sure I wish I had.
Snoo52682@reddit
My ADHD wasn't diagnosed, or my medical PTSD from some extremely nasty medical procedures I had when I was a kid. I learned how to ignore what my body and gut were telling me all the time.
I'm not going to share what I've gone through getting over that. To the extent that I have. Certainly not with some internet rando who likes to talk about who has "legitimate anxiety" and who doesn't.
But "sucking it up and getting on with it" ain't always it. And when it is the only choice ... you gotta take care of yourself afterward.
JulesSherlock@reddit
I just saw a legit post on our community FB page by an employee of Lowe’s asking us to send in complaints to their manager and corporate that it was too hot in the building. Bosses weren’t listening. And they were dying.
Apparently 76 degrees F is unbearable working conditions. WTF? Really? Is this the younger generation? First, that’s not hot. Second, get another job if that is your issue. No, they want customers to complain to corporate so they will comply, raising the electric bill and then our prices. Think it through people!!
DIYnivor@reddit
I swear we had immersion therapy for anxiety playing Operation and Perfection!
Use_this_1@reddit
I have ADHD & Autism wasn't formally diagnosed until my late 40s. I knew I had ADHD, it was painfully obvious, but the autism was a surprise and explains a lot of my "quirks". I self-medicated my depression and anxiety and am now a recovering alcoholic. I'm medicated now, but I had to suck it up and push through in my teens 20's, 30's & most of my 40's.
Cheesqueak@reddit
I’m not going to disparage them. My childhood was so fucked up I had to more shove anything that happened to me was just in my head unless there was a neutral third party to vouch that it happened. I didn’t handle it well. It wasn’t until my 30s that I finally realized I could trust my own memory and was being gaslighting.
tommyalanson@reddit
Still shoving shit down and dealing with it. I’ve gotten better at talking about things though and and dealing with the emotions.
But ah, I still highly value resilience and you need it in this life and time and it’s a tool to be able to move forward and survive and thrive.
belliblu@reddit
I find it funny when people complain about Gen Z. Who do you think raised them and projected those anxieties on to them because they never dealt with them?? We did. Personally, i love the hell out of Gen Z and have a lot of respect for them standing up to this shitty capitalistic society that tells them they should be working 60 hours a week and only getting paid for 40 because "that's what you do to get ahead" or to just push your feelings aside and move on. Screw that, im so messed up from having done that for so long that after 5 years of therapy I'm not any better. I cant wait for them to take over government and businesses. I swear, I feel like Gen X are turning into Boomers with all their complaining about the "younger generation".
demonspawn9@reddit
Your headline just about summed up my whole life.
beermaker@reddit
A lot of us self-diagnosed and medicated because our legit mental health issues were hand-waved off & we were told to "take a lap, walk it off".
Self medicating, in my own instance, led to decades of alcohol abuse and addiction... which only got effectively treated by acknowledging my lifelong anxiety issues and forming a treatment plan around that.
So, no... hearing a younger person state that their anxiety is overwhelming & they need help isn't "grating" to me, it's a legit call for help. I may not have answers for them, or an immediate solution, but the last thing I'd do is tell them their feelings aren't valid & to walk it off. Sometimes they just need someone to listen.
punkwalrus@reddit
I think a majority of people who "sucked it up and moved on with it" are survivors bias. Like those still around who can say, "well, I got shot and lived!" vs. those who got shot and died. You never hear from dead people.
I think those who couldn't suck it up and move on are alcoholics, drug addicts, homeless, or dead. And those of us who managed make it, look like the default way. That's why being told I was "so brave" to live through shit is like, "well, you wouldn't have heard from me if I didn't." A lot of time, it's just dumb luck.
mikejmct@reddit
By 22 I had 4 friends that had ended it. I do think it's a bit ott these days everyone has some BS mental health issue, but our generation def lost a lot of kids that had no one to turn to.
Stephvick1@reddit
I was diagnosed with ADHA/Dyslexia in the 70’s but I was part of a study group that was kind of a first. A few of my friends have had breakdowns and are on meds for depression, in hindsight I can see it now but in general we had to figure things out on our own.
kalelopaka@reddit
I was doing adult shit as a teenager so it was nothing when I actually became an adult. I never heard of anxiety until the 90’s. Shit happened and you dealt with it despite your feelings. If your feelings make it impossible for you to do what you need to do, then you’re just going to have to get over it and yourself. Don’t have time for that shit.
TraditionalBackspace@reddit
No diagnosis for me until 18 and a crisis made me go to therapy. Yeah, I pushed through it from 8 until today. We never said "no" to bosses and parents. My generation of managers thinks it's insane that the younger folks believe they have a choice to accept an assignment or not.
MyriVerse2@reddit
Some days I don't leave the house because of anxiety.
phoenixswope@reddit
Xennial here (I guess? It feels like it keeps changing).
I've seen both sides of the coin. Some folks I know suck it up and make it work. Others use the "I just can't" for so much it feels like an excuse.
The problem I have is that I can only see inside my own head. There have been times I've been tempted by the siren's call to say, "I just can't" and get out of whatever I don't want to do.
However, I'm a veteran (US Navy Chief, Submarines) and I learned just how resilient I can be and how powerful an "I've got no choice" attitude can be. I've also felt the cost of that attitude.
I think it's great that society is shifting to allow people the choice to do or not do a specific activity, but I don't think we quite prepared ourselves for how to make that choice responsibly.
Should we just suck everything up and get on with it? No...some things are wrong, we're being taken advantage of by corporate powers and others, and the hidden health costs from stress don't justify "sucking it up". Live smarter, not harder.
At the same time, should we build a world with soft fuzzy rounded edges everywhere so anyone who just doesn't feel the vibe can say "Nah, someone else can pick up my slack"? Hell no.
I think we owe it to ourselves as a society to be more clear in what the expectations are and HOW to listen to yourself to decide when is the right time to suck it up and when we should stop and rest/heal.
TL;Dr - Everything is a spectrum and we can't read others minds...it is what it is.
happyme321@reddit
I'm on the spectrum but in our day, I was just considered weird and very introverted. My parents very much did tough love, forcing me out of my comfort zone and making me try to "pass" as relatively normal. I was signed up for sports and art classes that I would never have agreed to (my mom would just say that we were going and not tell me in advance). If I didn't have a choice, I just had to suck it up and do it. I hated it at the time, but I honestly think it was the best thing for me. It made me learn to navigate the world when I would much rather be alone in my room. Not getting a job after high school was never an option, although I did live at home until I was 30. 😂 If my parents had allowed me to just stay in my room and not be around people, I would absolutely be a shut in right now.
cat_in_box_@reddit
Well what are you going to do? Mental health attitudes are so much different now that I'm 55. Only child, latch key kid, if I was hungry I went in and cooked some food, if I needed clothes I would throw a load of laundry in etc. If I was feeling a certain way or another I just dealt with it. I had good parents luckily but they taught me early how to be independent.
JustWatchingthefun01@reddit
Same here. Only child, both parents worked. Walked home from school 2 miles . Every kid in my neighborhood basically the same.
organized_fire_ants@reddit
We didn’t get participation trophies. Just for playing. One earned it and didn’t break down from a loss, just collected ones self to focus on how to improve to win next time.
We luckily did not have helicopter parents and every minute occupied. Boredom was good for creativity, collaboration - sandlot baseball meant everyone played… you weren’t tiered and told you were a star… you played for fun and learned to play as a team of mixed abilities. And on the next day you might switch to kickball. The group would negotiate. Skills that are lost.
And finally (and maybe to answer the question), one focused on succeeding despite issues instead of making it their primary feature and excuse. Yes, you might have anxiety, but it was more important that you were focusing on making things happen, not preparing your script for why they couldn’t happen.
Not to say there aren’t good things out there now … helpful drugs, good therapists, general guidance… but I’ll still say if you aren’t motivated to succeed as your first thought, then you spend all of energy on accommodations instead. Would love to see some better balance.
Ghost_Sandwiches@reddit
Oh I think it happens with OCD regularly, it’s like “I’m so quirky and like to keep things clean, sooo OCD, teehee.” Whereas my family has diagnosable ocd, it’s debilitating for my mom (I learned coping skills) and not at all cute or quirky.
My partner likes to point to things I do that align with adhd (another one everyone seems to have) but I was certainly never diagnosed and just again - learned how to navigate it.
I think labels like these can be helpful and harmful depending on each person. If it’s a way of getting the meds you need or the therapy/ resources, that’s great. If it’s an excuse for not trying than it’s holding folks back.
addictions-in-red@reddit
As a Gen X'er with anxiety, this is honestly a terrible take. It's giving Boomer.
Enelessar@reddit
Younger gens imho: limp or lame or timid. Take a pick.
archedhighbrow@reddit
Yes, suck it up and get on with it. Now I'm exhausted.
ONROSREPUS@reddit
Still doing it. Its called work. 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Parents were just training us for this.
StopSignsAreRed@reddit
Ain’t no absolutes.
I had to suck it up, and it was (and is today) fine, for the most part. But we grew up in a time where our anxieties/fears just weren’t accommodated. There was no online school or work from home. We HAD to call for appointments or to order pizza. We couldn’t order everything we could possibly need and have it left on our doorstep. We couldn’t avoid unfamiliar or scary situations.
We had to just get on with it and deal with things. I think that helped many of us - basically exposure therapy. But not everyone was that lucky, some of us are suffering.
Maybe the pendulum has shifted to the extreme other end, where we don’t teach kids to deal with things at all. I dunno.
Door_Number_Four@reddit
I think Gen X did the same thing, and still does.
Best thing that happened to me as a teenager was getting to know a guy from out town who was a POW during WWII in Germany. Put a lot into perspective, and still does.
And here was the kicker- he was concerned with how people my age were adapting to the Cold War, the manufacturing decline taking away all the jobs , and “ all the stuff he never had to worry about”.
So I give Gen Z the same grace and don’t judge.
Mysterious-Taste-804@reddit
I didn't know what anxiety was until I was well into adulthood. I just did what I needed to in life. Anxiety and a Type A personality kept me high functioning but I didn't realize it probably until my 40s.
I also think I have ADHD but have never been diagnosed with it. Another just "well if I do, I do and I have to live with it".
Retirednypd@reddit
You are 100 percent correct. Except for 1 thing. The younger generation actually WONT have to Deal with things. The world is becoming a place that caters to them and their nonsense. If they go to a therapist, for example, the therapist doesn't get them back on track in dealing with things, they validate it, and say it's their gen x parents that screwed them up. Then these kids are diagnosed with something and promptly put on meds. And in the workplace it's the same thing. No one is productive, they do the bare minimum, blame the rich for not paying their fair share,etc. And th3 bosses/owners tolerate it because they don't want to be sued, and or canceled and put out of business. Plus there aren't exactly a bunch of hard workers lining up to take the job.
BellaFromSwitzerland@reddit
I’m enjoying this discussion, OP. It’s been on my mind too
A good friend of mine, when he introduced me to her then 20yo son, we started chatting about student jobs. The son immediately said he can’t because he’s a huge introvert / anxiety etc. In my mind I immediately thought « you haven’t been hungry yet » but I kept my thoughts to myself
I also think no one was born instantly successful at most things in life. If you’re a huge extrovert like me, it’s much easier because you don’t spend time being self conscious about how you might be perceived if you’re in a new social situation. Still, it’s an effort to do something for the first time and there’s discomfort there and it’s normal
As parents we owe it to our kids to teach them social situations. I have a 17yo and he’s been taught how to show up in team sports, how to build friendships, ask a girl on a date, share his feelings, talk to the insurance company, make a doctor’s appointment, show up alone for the doctor’s appointment (be on time…), get a summer job etc etc, how to behave at a concert, at the theater, etc He’s mildly autistic and he can handle these situations. He’s not into small talk at all but he’s good at building relationships and asking for support / providing support for others
I enjoy showing any number of his friends « how it’s done ». It’s not easy being a teenager. They’re just so self conscious (and sometimes self absorbed) that they actively self sabotage themselves. I have a son but I see that most teenage girls around me are so preoccupied with their looks and with others’ opinions about them that it’s almost a cause for inaction
TallAd4000@reddit
Gen z here to quote my father “suck it up buttercup” Lot of people my age are kids 25 going on 15.
StopLookListenDecide@reddit
Wasn’t this the rule? I didn’t know of any other. There were consequences to not getting on with it, not doing your chores, talking back, having your own ideas etc.
Pop_Professional_25@reddit
I am 45 and have diagnosed (a week after my 43rd birthday!) ADHD, GAD, and CPTSD, and I agree with you and find many of the younger millennials and Gen Z work with somewhat insufferable about this stuff.
Short_Advance_7843@reddit
I work with young people. It makes me so angry what I had to do and put up with in my life. They are so privileged, so comfortable, their lives are so easy. I would fire them, but there's no one to replace them.
Bruno6368@reddit
Spent years in bad relationships because I thought that’s how they all were and also that’s all I deserved because I had/have a huge self loathing issue.
Finally met the spouse of my dreams, got married. I was in heaven. 7 yrs later they died suddenly from cancer. Watching him take his last breaths, struggling to live, has been my waking nightmare for the 3 yrs since he died. 2 weeks after I watched him die, I watched our (his) beloved dog die in my livingroom. 1 yr later I was let go from my very good govt job “without cause” with a good severance because I had just returned from mental health leave and they didn’t want to deal with it.
So yep. I don’t tell anyone if I’m struggling and always slap the smile on my face and move on.
AntheaBrainhooke@reddit
We did not fucking invent anxiety, nor did we just suck it up and get on with it. Some of us were permanently damaged by it, and it’s time we acknowledged that. Valorising causing ourselves or others mental health problems needs to fucking stop.
ControlledVoltage@reddit
54 in therapy and on anxiety made still. Caused a major drinking problem...
Azerafael@reddit
Its just overthinking things.
Lets be real, we all know by now that life isn't a picnic and it certainly isn't fair at all. We have to deal with it and move on to continue living.
These days everyone seems to want to blame something just so they can hide out at home. That's not dealing with life, thats just escapism.
I'm guessing many here have done many things to get to this point in their life where we need a bottle of whiskey just to try and start to not remember. But that's just life, we push forward.
invislign@reddit
Yep. My Mother died before I started school. I remember being told, "Now nobody knows you Mom died, so you need to suck it up." I did. I lost a sibling recently and I know it's because he was told to suck it up too. It's beyond heartbreaking that most of us didn't get the basic compassion we needed. My sweetheart saved my life.
IdyllwildGal@reddit
I think it’s great that mental health is more out in the open and becoming destigmatized.
However, based on my experience with my teenage daughter, I also think that the pendulum has swung to the point that some kids are getting the message that you’re not “normal” unless there’s something wrong with you. Yes, it’s ok to not be ok. It’s also ok to be ok, and I think that message is getting lost in all the talk about mental health.
There was a show a few years ago called Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. It was very funny, about a young woman who moves across the country to try and get back together with her ex-boyfriend. Almost every episode had some kind of musical number, and the songs were hilarious.
The show delved into mental health issues, and towards the end the main character received a diagnosis and started taking anti-depressants. There was a song called “Antidepressants Are So Not A Big Deal,” and it really rubbed me the wrong way. The message was meant to be that people shouldn’t be ashamed of needing help with their mental health, but it missed the mark.
Antidepressants are life changing medications that really help the people who need them, and that’s a wonderful thing. But they’re also medications that change your brain chemistry. A song about how they’re not a big deal makes it sound they’re no more innocuous than a Tic Tac.
Choosepeace@reddit
My dad’s advice to me was always, “Get a grip”, and it actually works. 😂 Sometimes you just have to get a grip.
Tempus__Fuggit@reddit
Swallowing my anxiety led to a traumatized nervous system. We live in a hostile environment, and kids are expressing their distress. I've had to grow a thick skin, but only in the interest of protecting my heart.
MissDisplaced@reddit
I feel like that every time I read or hear younger generations complain about working. The “how is it possible to work 40 hours a week!!!! We’re not meant to do this!!!” kind of posts.
Like yeah, it’s called work for a reason. No one likes it. But in the US you do it or be poor and homeless and you try to get better jobs if you can. Been working 40 since I was about 16 years old and you just learn to deal with it.
cartoonchris1@reddit
Ah, BoomerX strikes again.
Lmcaysh2023@reddit
Like most of you, I also had to suck it up and do hard things; amazingly, the more I did them, the easier it got!
I raised my kids with way more support and softness, but also gave them grit. They learned to speak to adults, and (even though they didn't want to) I had them advocate for themselves to their teachers. For example, one child in 3rd grade (highly verbal and intelligent) saw a grading error on their test. They wanted me to tell the teacher. Instead, we practiced how he could approach her and what to say. I stood in the hallway while he did it, and the teacher agreed she made a mistake. Although he literally cried in relief on the way home, I was so proud of him, and I told him so.
Many of his peers never learned that skill and still had parents "doing the talking" in high school.
I now have a DiL who diagnosed herself with anxiety and refuses to work. Her condition excepts her from cleaning, laundry, errands, cooking....we all have to be supportive and pretend it's real so as not to risk the dreaded no contact epidemic.
AriadneThread@reddit
This sounds very frustrating. I've been there with an employee. It makes it hard to feel any sympathy at all.
A balance on this issue is needed in our society.
Throwaway7219017@reddit
I’ve tried to reach my kids if there is something you don’t want to do (make an difficult appointment, a scary phone call, a long task at work, housework, etc) just fucking do it, straight away.
Nobody cares that you don’t want to do it - shut up, get off your ass, and do it.
I’m a much more caring and empathetic parent than mine were, and I raised my kids with lots of hugs and support. However, our kids are the way they are because we let them get away with it.
It was a constant fight in our house. My wife is a “Do it later” kind of person and I’m a “Do it right now”. Of course, the kids gravitated towards her way, as it’s easier.
But I’m happy to report that now that they’re adults and on their own, they’re starting to get it. I’ve seen signs of them getting better.
Rory-liz-bath@reddit
I think they have a different version of anxiety , they are just nervous or have a bad day and don’t know what to do about it , true anxiety is much much worse , panic attacks that send you to hospital, not being able to leave the house etc, they are tossing around the word mental heath as if its a catch phrase, and yes some of them just need to suck it up
savedbytheblood72@reddit
I'm 53, I suffered with depression and anxiety for about 3 decades. I believe in God's grace and he always got me through. Life hasn't been kind to me . ( When is it ever)?
Not sure if that'll work for everybody but it's sure in my case has. Plus a little counseling helps. A support group or fellowship helps.
CapitalG888@reddit
I think it's a mixed bag.
Some have a real issue, and we simply diagnose and understand the issue better now.
Some milk it bc they simply don't want to take on the BS that comes with adulthood. It all seems amazing when you are young and want your freedom until you realize that freedom doesn't exist for the majority of people.
Listen-to-Mom@reddit
We didn’t know anxiety existed. We were nervous, or excited or cautious-all feelings that you deal with and move on. Being labeled as anxiety gives people a crutch every time they face a challenge. I understand people have anxiety but when every conversation with a young adult mentions their anxiety, something is off.
I_M_N_Ape_@reddit
Imagine a world where everybody decided a given challenge was just "too much". Whether it was chronic or acute.
Let's say we ALL got equal grace for "mental health" at all times for every unverifiable claim of distress and oppression.
You would wake up tomorrow morning and see smoldering ruins.
Start taking mental note of every vital industry which requires people to do unpleasant shit whether they want to or not.
And then there is the unemployed neighbor kid (mid 20s) who just kinda works out all day in the garage. Word on the street he's just too nervous to interview for jobs. He went to school for something computer related.
His elderly parent are going to reach their expiration date of competence and he's gonna...?
He doesn't even know anxiety is yet. Buckle up scooter.
vomputer@reddit
Another post bright to you by someone who doesn’t remember what we were like as kids.
We were fucking lazy, entitled dicks who liked to get fucked up, have sex, work a shit job etc etc. the older generations looked down at us because we were irresponsible, reckless, feckless, and rude.
Can we stop with the intergenerational sniping BS? Doubtful. It just makes you sound old and annoying.
temerairevm@reddit
I definitely feel this as a knee jerk reaction but then I also know that I grew up in a shitty parenting situation where my feelings and needs never mattered ever and I became hyper independent as a coping mechanism. I don’t want that for other people and am pretty glad that younger people can just admit they have anxiety.
But in adulting it IS pretty useful to be able to tell your anxiety to STFU because we’re doing this anyway.
I feel like I have to be careful when I talk to younger people about their anxiety. I don’t want to sound like a stereotypical boomer like “F your feelings!” But you really do have to just be afraid and do stuff anyway.
I have a really long and complicated history with anxiety myself, have been prescribed meds that I mostly didn’t take, did a bunch of therapy instead…. I think we just have to try to see that both things are kind of true. You’re right, but also it’s ok to have anxiety and admit it.
Health_Wellness9227@reddit
I have great compassion for people with anxiety, as I am one of them and at times it was severe enough to be debilitating. However: The only way out is to “feel the fear and do it anyway.” (with a lot of outside help and work on yourself with professional help if needed). Otherwise it gets worse.
trUth_b0mbs@reddit
truthfully, a lot of people tip toe around mental health. Yes it's debilitating, yes it is very challenging but it should not be used as a crutch or treated like some terminal disease. Parents are now so afraid of letting their kids feel discomfort because they're scared of triggering anxiety/mental health conditions etc but what they dont realize is that sheltering kids and not letting them learn how to cope with difficult situations only worsens their anxiety.
and anxiety is NORMAL for the most part; it's only when you dont know how to recognize your triggers and learn how to employ the right coping mechanisms that it becomes deblitating. However, people shy away from feeling that anxiety so when they're faced with situations where they can't hide from it, they are paralyzed with fear and anxiety and they spiral. One should never suck it up; that's just a recipe for disaster later on however, I am a big advocate of learning how to manage your issues through therapy, meds if needed but most of all - employing what you learned in therapy to make positive changes for the betterment of your life. A lot of people think that just talking to someone, taking meds etc will make their problems go away; this wont cut it. You have to be an active part of your own treatment which means making those necessary changes to fix your problems.
Im clinically diagnosed with high anxiety disorder that if left unmanaged, spirals into OCD and MDD. I spent a lot of time in treatment for it and my psychiatrist taught me so much wrt CBTs and anxiety management. My daughter also has anxiety issues and when she is in high stress situations, she's learned how to cope and work through them. Most of the time it works, sometimes it doesn't but that's all part of the learning process of how to cope/manage so that you can make it through those tough situations. Resilience is a years-long learning process and in order to be able to mange things, you have to be exposed to, and work through, those tough situations.
ShadowsPrincess53@reddit
I have found, when speaking with other GenXers, if a Gen Z or Alpha is around or even some Millennial, they are horrified by how we grew up. I was telling someone I raised my kid GenX style because the world is what it is and sometimes it punches you hard. This younger man with his mouth hanging open said “You spanked him?!” Um yes yes I did. “ oh my gods I was raised on hugs”.
The other Xer and I looked at him then at each other trying not to completely fall apart laughing. I said “ You would never make it in our generation, and we had the most fun ever!! We are why some laws were made!!”
Ghost-of-Sanity@reddit
Corny as it sounds, there was some wisdom from Sly Stallone in Rocky IV: “It ain’t about how hard you can hit. It’s about how hard you can GET hit and still get back up!” Words to live by. Says me. Lol
ShadowsPrincess53@reddit
Absolutely!!! “Adriiiiiiaaaaaannnn”
True-Decision9847@reddit
The whole 58 years! I done raised myself
joefatmamma@reddit
So brave.
gcpuddytat@reddit
I had no choice but to suck it up bc no one gave a shit.
Cade_02@reddit
I’m a high performing human and have horrible anxiety. Sometimes it’s not there as much, and sometimes it’s bad. I push through it but it does suck.
TheChewyWaffles@reddit
You sound like a boomer OP. Gross. I want younger generations to be able to speak up for themselves in a way I wasn’t permitted to. No one defended me from a lot of evil. I’ve raised my kids with the ability to say no and to speak their mind if they sense injustice is being done to them or others.
forgeblast@reddit
It's funny they don't want to deal with their anxiety. They use it as a badge. I think this comes from not physically interacting with people. They are so messed up looking for their gang, crew, neighborhood friends whatever you want to call it that they are inventing ways to be part of something. Say what you will growing up like spartan kids did have its pluses.
FrauAmarylis@reddit
Anxiety is a natural feeling, not to be shunned.
The strategy to use is to Finish the What If thoughts to a satisfactory end.
Here’s an example: “What if” the client gets angry? Then calmly apologize for them being upset and explain how you are following company policy, and explain the next steps, and ask if they have more questions, and last, offer to have them speak to a manager.
And remind yourself that the more you do it, the easier it will become.
We All have anxiety. We all have to manage it or risk being unemployed or making our lives harder from avoidant behavior.
Environmental-Egg893@reddit
It all catches up with you regardless. I have crippling anxiety at times. I always had it just didn’t know what it was.
PacRat48@reddit
I think there’s a lot to your assessment. I had to suck up some stuff that felt insurmountable at the time. And the overcoming fear and perseverance is why many of us aren’t as controlled by life circumstances as the subsequent generations.
But I think the key to fear making diamonds is a strong, loving dad. And I don’t necessarily mean gentle or sweet, but a dad that knows how hard and how far to push, and when to not overdo it.
pondelniholka@reddit
I had hideous anxiety in college and since my sole parent didn't want to know, I found my own therapist and p-doc and white-knuckled life for several years, narrowly avoiding a nervous breakdown.
I think it's great now that the shame element of mental health struggles in the workplace is really dialed down because back in the 90s it was the shame of being found out that made everything infinitely worse.
However developing coping mechanisms and resilience is also an important skill and I poured all the energy and resources I had into managing my symptoms so I could carry on with my work and studies.
WillowLantana@reddit
I also had extreme anxiety in college but didn’t know what was going on. You were smarter than I finding help. I didn’t know help was an option until my late twenties.
The coping skills & resilience you mentioned. That’s where the younger generations lose me. They don’t seem to want to take that step. They name the problem but become paralyzed to it instead of wanting to find the skills to move through it. Their parents aren’t going to live forever. The world is going to become a very, very harsh place for them after the people doing all the heavy lifting for them are gone.
pondelniholka@reddit
I'm sorry to hear you went through that. When a parent died when I was 13 I was introduced to counseling and I became familiar with how the process could help me cope with the trauma I was experiencing. So when I started having severe anxiety and panic attacks in response to the transition to college, finding a therapist was an intuitive reaction for me. I also had my other parent's health insurance for the psychiatrist consult. I was able to get Ativan for panic attacks but didn't get on effective meds for my day-to-day anxiety and depression until I was in my mid-30s.
Not being able to rely on my parents socialized me to seek out other trusted adults, friends and professionals and not turn to partying or other self-destructive behavior. I was able to expand my comfort zone to move overseas alone after college. I remember a younger cousin of mine did a summer college program in the same region that I was living, and when her new backpack got stolen she called her mom crying. I just could not imagine doing that.
WillowLantana@reddit
Sorry you lost a parent at such a young age. 💜
pondelniholka@reddit
Thank you kind stranger xx
osoese@reddit
Based on a MAD or CRACKED magazine I saw when I was pretty young where every joke was about anxiety, I am going to go ahead and say we did not invent it.
Strong_Mulberry789@reddit
Had to?
DecemberPaladin@reddit
That’s on our generation.
DicksOfPompeii@reddit
I think the thing we need to remember is that anxiety has a multitude of sources and one of them is learned behavior. The younger generations you’re talking about were and still are being raised by us. The generation that wasn’t diagnosed and didn’t find medication or talk therapy until later in life.
I think part of the reason some younger people feel such crippling anxiety is because they learned it from us. And that’s a hard pill to swallow for most of us still raising younger ones.
I’m solid GenX in my behaviors; latchkey kid, parents worked so I half raised my younger brother, suck it up and keep going, etc. And I have an almost 9 y/o girl and let me tell ya, not sharing my anxiety and making her feel it as well is a deep, daily struggle.
And the only reason I know the struggle and how deep it is is because my own mother is the most anxious, ants in her pants person I’ve ever met. I definitely feel that I picked up a portion of my anxiety from her. Of course we didn’t know that’s what it was back when it was being picked up by little kid me.
So being more aware of it now is a double edged sword. I know that my being anxious can be picked up by my daughter and it makes me even more anxious trying to make sure she doesn’t see or feel that anxiety and pick it up.
I’m glad I’m aware but I can’t say I’m doing any good trying to prevent my kid from learning the behavior. On a daily basis I tell myself: only so much I can do…
Hardjaw@reddit
Millennials and the like complaining about living through historical events always makes me laugh. So have we and more.
Oh, you felt stress as a kid in school because of life? Yeah, we did to, but under the threat of the cold war.
So deal with it.
We did.
CA5P3R_1@reddit
I think society flipped to the other extreme after our generation was raised as latchkey kids with a lot of independence. Millennials and Gen Z have been extremely coddled. Everything causes anxiety when you haven't been given the freedom to experience anything. It's not their fault, it's the adults who have been ridiculously overprotective in raised them.
Minereon@reddit
Yes. This general inability to accept and deal with anxiety is a contemporary disease.
Here's the irony: it seems to me the more a generation harps on "resilience", "self care", "mental health", etc. the more they seem to fail to come to terms with any of these.
Fit_Earth_339@reddit
I didn’t know I had bad anxiety and used booze and drugs to cope. Wish I’d known more then instead of ‘sucking it up’
Humble-Membership-28@reddit
I have a hard time with it, and I’m a professor. It’s hard.
In my family, we have to be tough. There’s no room for weakness, no if ands or buts, and if I cried, they would give me something to cry about. So I’m tough— and that’s been commented on by other Gen Xers, so I think I got an extra dose of mettle.
My kids are similar. They have grit.
This world will run you right down if you’re soft, so it really is in our own interests to be strong.
We’ll see what happens as these kids hit adulthood. In sympathy, they really have been exposed to a LOT of hardship and instability during their development. There are reasons this has developed.
Mindless-Employment@reddit
I had to do a presentation for English literature class with a guy I was friends with in 11th grade. I still very vividly remember how both of us were sweating and shaking the whole time we were up there in front of the class. It was only five minutes but felt like three days. We weren't even unprepared, which is surprising, as we were both terrible procrastinators, we both just absolutely hated public speaking. But there was no possibility of being allowed to just not do the presentation because both of us found the public speaking aspect of it extremely unpleasant. It never crossed out minds to ask our parents to tell the teacher that we couldn't do it because of "anxiety" and our parents would probably still be laughing right now if we had. I can just hear my Mom: "You want anxiety? Go in there and look at that utility bill that just came in the mail!"
Ok_Industry_1447@reddit
I think it's easier to punch down at kids honestly, anxiety is no joke.
Dependent_Pipe3268@reddit
I think everybody's definition of "anxiety" has become different. The word "anxiety" is too loosely thrown around and most people that claim this probably have never had a real anxiety panic attack. People are using the word anxiety when they are probably just nervous. You just have to nut up, man up and face your fears. Imo
Extension_Excuse_642@reddit
There is a bit of confusion between anxiety and discomfort. That said, people train themselves into becoming anxious. It becomes a rut of thinking that is tough to break out of. Normalizing it on social media keeps many from stepping outside their increasingly small comfort zone.
Inevitable-Key-5200@reddit (OP)
Agreed, however I felt like before social media and the push and pull of “you’re a survivor of the anxiety that society has imposed upon you” we had to just deal with it and overcome our insecurities and shit we felt icky about and just get on with it, like every other generation before us.
Ask my black-plague era ancestors what their anxieties were!!! Fuck right off
Extension_Excuse_642@reddit
Thing is that we used to teach coping skills. Now I don't think they do. Just make excuses.
Hawlee72@reddit
Of course they teach coping skills now. More than ever. Just turn on your tv. Nearly every commercial is a drug commercial. That's the skill they're teaching these days: bend an elbow & pop a pill. Legal dope pushing.
bleddybear@reddit
I agree 100% with OP. People need to get familiar with good old grit and endurance. These qualities are totally lacking because it’s easier to claim some limitation. In gen X time none of this vocabulary existed so we didn’t have this avenue to pursue for excuses. We just faced into highly uncomfortable and painful and ambiguous situations and that’s how we grew up. just look at how Bill Burr speaks - his pain - you can see it. In contrast, I can’t believe some of the posts here on Reddit, young people totally giving up early in life for no reason, not giving themselves a chance at life. And then the 30 year olds bemoan what they never did in their earlier years.
DoNotResusit8@reddit
This is spot on
Playful-Park4095@reddit
I find the very phrase "...gives me anxiety" annoying. You're just an anxious person, nothing *gave* you anxiety. You *felt anxious because of...*
I've been in actual life or death situations, like bullets going both directions sort of life or death. I've shot someone at about double arms length. I've made decisions that had long term life altering or life ending consequences for other people. You can't do basic life skills task because "anxious". GTFO of here with that nonsense.
snarffle-@reddit
Sometimes when I’m dealing with younger people I think their “anxiety” is just bad manners / upbringing.
Making zero effort socially because of anxiety? Nah. It’s just socially lazy and rude.
dtl72@reddit
I snort inside but offer sympathy and support