ULPT request: School photographers took daughter's senior photos and want $300 for minimum package. What can I do?
Posted by Yosho2k@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 225 comments
I can't afford to pay that and even if I could, I already paid $130 for the photo session and I can't believe they're charging something like $25 a photo.
What can I do to get around this?
Routine_Round_8990@reddit
If you download pictures with Watermarks like the COMPANY NAME across the entire picture, you can also put your downloaded photos and upload them to watermark removers for FREE. Worked wonders back in 2019 its probably better now.
BalloonComb@reddit
I made a post about this recently on here….. go to the website in firefox and hit f12>network and look for anything that ends in “.jpg”. Open it in a new tab and save it
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
Interesting!!!
BalloonComb@reddit
Do the people downvoting not realise what sub this is posted on?
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
I've gotten tired of trying to understand redditors. Anytime I post a new topic, it gets downvoted.
BalloonComb@reddit
When you f12>network you want to click the images filter bar. The photos i managed to save weren’t amazing quality but i ran them through AI to enhance them slightly and it worked a treat. Photographers are a precious bunch…..
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
If the quality is no good in your method, I'm going to buy a couple copies, take them to a place that will scan them and do satin prints.
NorthRoseGold@reddit
Just scan them yourself, this is so weird, are you from the '00s or something
elcriticalTaco@reddit
I am not OP.
I was born in 1983.
Yes, we exist lol.
To be fair I could never understand how my parents couldn't understand simple technology. Like...its fucking easy. You literally just have to match the colors. Red goes into red, white into white, yellow into yellow. How fucking hard is it to make your VCR work??
resigned_medusa@reddit
All your sweet sweet child, I was born in 67 and remember when VCRs were invented and I knew people who bought betamax because it was the better system.
BigRed1Delta@reddit
That's because betamax was the better system, fucking Disney. And no I'm not just butt hurt ober losing that money. LOL
WanderingHermit15@reddit
I’m still butt hurt that when 6y/o me had permission to bring in Explorers for my whole class to watch, we wound up with nothing to watch because my school didn’t have a Betamax player😕
mzm123@reddit
I had an aunt who did that - we tried to tell her, but she wouldn't listen lol
piratelegacy@reddit
My dad bought first generation VCR in 80’s…. for $850. It was a beast that had a top loader. It sat on a huge tv encapsulated by wood to look like furniture. We have seen some technology!
trustcircleofjerks@reddit
The most proficient VCR user I ever met was my grandma who is now 94. She could pop in a 6-hour tape, program all the things she wanted over the next few days based on the newspaper program guide, and just leave it to do its thing. Fucking sorcery.
Ok-Helicopter3433@reddit
Man, this brings back memories. My parents would buy a pack of blank tapes for the weekends when Disney channel had a free preview. That was when Disney was way more movies than shows. We watched those recorded movies so many times and I bet we will find those Polaroid brand tapes when cleaning out my parents house.
allofolivesolives@reddit
https://i.redd.it/vqoifd0ypx7f1.gif
occasionally_cortex@reddit
Lol, how true. Did the time always flash on that vcr? 😊
leonmich@reddit
Jesus this hits home, hard.
Chrios5o6@reddit
Buy just one or two of the biggest size. That way when you scan them they should scan better quality.
Many places may raise a stink about scanning professional photos. I used to work at Kinkos, and I would scan without much care, as long as the boss wasn't around.
phoneacct696969@reddit
Buy a nice scanner on Amazon and return it when the project is complete.
Chrios5o6@reddit
Oddly enough, I dislike this idea. Terrible for the environment. See if your library has one to use or pick up an ok/used scanner and offer for othere people to use.
phoneacct696969@reddit
I don’t care.
petrastales@reddit
What’s the reason they don’t want to scan professional photos ?
TrevorPhilips32@reddit
Copyright
petrastales@reddit
Oh
L31FY@reddit
no employees at these places are paid or trained to care honestly so I don't expect problems
Chrios5o6@reddit
I was trained to and cared, but only when the boss was around. Getting yelled at was too much of a pain to deal with.
overkill@reddit
Sometimes the URL for the image will have some parameters like "w=200&h=160". Either remove these or change them to very large values and you might get a better image.
Draco9630@reddit
Not only will the quality be quite poor (images that look find on a desktop normally print "correctly" at 1.5"×2"), but they'll also have the watermark on them, rendering them useless to you (which is possibly why the original comment got downvoted)
PuffinTown@reddit
Try posting in r/photoshoprequests if the jpg’s don’t look good
kevinh456@reddit
They likely will no do that without a release of the photos :-(
Harmony23446@reddit
It’s not hard to forge a copyright release…..
kevinh456@reddit
Can’t forge if you don’t know it’s a thing.
PoopBaby0013@reddit
Oh, please. LOL
Chreed96@reddit
There's a chance taking it some place, that someone might ask about a photo release.
If you take the photo to office depot or similar place, scan it yourself, and have it sent to an email. It might cost a buck or two, but now you have the image file. Then you can do a self service online print, like office depot, walgreens, etc, then pick it up. I guarantee you won't get any copy right issues.
dacraftjr@reddit
You’ll need a copyright release. No professional print shop will do that without a release.
dogepope@reddit
lol thats not true at all
saw-not-seen@reddit
No but a shitty Walgreens might
PeePeeMcpherson@reddit
What do you do for work? How often do you see your work stolen? How often do you produce something that people love, yet they get offended when you ask for payment?
Being a photographer isn't easy
SugarInvestigator@reddit
Do you work for free? Or would you rather your employer paid you.
IntroductionNeat2746@reddit
This are monopolistic companies praying on parents emotions.
OrokaSempai@reddit
There are AI water mark removers too. I did this 2 years ago. Few bucks to print at Walmart.
adfthgchjg@reddit
Can you please ELI5 how you used AI to enhance them!
Stalwart_Samurai86@reddit
I try to upvote most posts, just trying to be a good human.
Humanguypersonthing@reddit
And ai banning people for comments it can’t comprehend as sarcasm.
starspider@reddit
I say its not unethical to take what you already paid for.
NorthRoseGold@reddit
This is just weird tho, like.... Don't buy them? Most people get their own senior photos. No one wants those stupid posed school ones.
Sarcasm_Is_How_I_Hug@reddit
I have professional photoshop and would be happy to touch up the jpg image and blow it up for printing for free.
mzm123@reddit
Does photoshop still have the portrait package available?
Back in the golden age of the dinosaurs [because yes, I am that old lol], when I taught Adobe at my local college - from v7.0 thru the CS6 series - I taught my students how to download and use it - and how to create the backgrounds to go with them, but then had to provide letters on the college letterhead to the local and big box store printshops because they would refuse to print them out until I provided them with proof that my students had taken my class and had learned how to do it themselves lol
Wizdad-1000@reddit
Love that username!
scubahana@reddit
Love your Reboot profile pic :)
i_suckatjavascript@reddit
Doesn’t this still keep the watermark?
MetsToWS@reddit
Use Gemini to remove the watermark
1quirky1@reddit
Chatgpt refused to do it for me. I found some random site that did it for free.
CutsAPromo@reddit
Chatgpt is such a little pussy
thatcoolguy27@reddit
Careful how you speak about our AI overlords
zamfire@reddit
Can ai programs remove watermarks?
Alert-Performance199@reddit
https://dewatermark.ai/upload
myhf@reddit
You can leave the watermark on. It's not about getting the clearest picture. It's about sending a message.
emailaddressforemail@reddit
Depends on what software they're using to host the images.
Some would apply the watermark on the fly when displayed on the website. This allows the photographer to just upload a single set of files and let's the website do all the work of watermarking and/or resizing pictures.
What you want to do when using developer mode is to look inside folders. Sometimes you'll find pictures inside some of them.
1PhaseOne@reddit
You can upload the photo to Google photos and use AI to remove the watermark. It does a very good job at it.
BamBaLambJam@reddit
Yes it would
butterm3ll0w@reddit
I’m curious about this too, but for the obnoxiously expensive newborn photos that a large company that works in hospitals took of my baby when she was first born
casualqueenie@reddit
thank you for this! it worked in Chrome for me too
gamer4life84@reddit
Do you know of any working methods for flashphotography.com? They had several that worked but patched them over the last couple of years it seems like.
UnemployedAtype@reddit
Hey u/Yosho2k you're a Guardian!!!
I haven't seen your kind in decades!
sanjosanjo@reddit
In Firefox I use this add on to get images from websites that try to prevent you from grabbing images. There are some settings to play with, but it can down a huge number with a few clicks.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/save-all-images-webextension/
Installer6@reddit
Any browser enable developer mode.
NoosasooN@reddit
Does anyone know if schools get a cut of the purchase price?
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
Someone did to avoid complaints.
Paint_Monster@reddit
Sounds like my senior photos! I never ended up buying them because of that.
World-Critic589@reddit
Screenshot the photo from their online ordering system or buy the cheapest single photo you can and scan it to a digital file.
OhSassafrass@reddit
My kids senior photo place offered an announcement package of 30 5x7 cards, which I was able to pick 5 poses and arrange them in a collage with his name, date and hs name. I waited until a holiday to use one of their discount codes and got 30 for about $45.
YnotBbrave@reddit
Dispute the original charge for $130, since no product was delivered (they didn't give you any pictures) - after you get the proofs and remove watermarks
EnglishBeatsMath@reddit
The commenters are all saying "you won't win the chargeback" but it's absolutely worth trying anyway, the only difference is I'd order the most expensive package and then submit the chargeback lol
YnotBbrave@reddit
The ULPT is that even if you lose the dispute the other party pays the cc company for the investigation and with enough complaints may lose cc processing
YnotBbrave@reddit
"Standard chargeback fees: $15–$100 per dispute. • High-risk merchants: Fees can be higher, sometimes exceeding $100. • Arbitration stage: If the dispute escalates to arbitration (involving the card network), the losing party may pay additional fees, averaging about $500. Even if the merchant wins the dispute, the chargeback fee is often non-refundable. I "
dacraftjr@reddit
Dispute what? The $130 was a sitting fee for the shoot. The photographer can easily prove they provided that service. I can pretty much guarantee the terms were spelled out for OP and they ignored it for whatever reason.
YnotBbrave@reddit
The service is meaningless without images. They may win the dispute but they would at least pay the dispute fee
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
There were no terms. Nothing was signed prior to my paying. I scheduled over the phone, showed up, paid, did the shoot, got a catalog.
BrattyBookworm@reddit
I don’t understand why you paid for it without asking how many prints were included with the session fee. It’s pretty standard for them to charge separately.
Bituulzman@reddit
Likely a sitting fee and the digital photo provided to the yearbook? Price seems steep to me for just that though.
Deathglass@reddit
I would absolutely do this.
v270@reddit
You won’t win a chargeback when the services was provided. And anyone that can’t afford a $25 photo shouldn’t mess with their credit card company
bigfoot17@reddit
That was for the service of taking the photos
sp1z99@reddit
Contact the other parents, organise your own photoshoot for free. On school grounds to really piss off the photographers.
SnortsSpice@reddit
Ask for samples or whatever they are called, the ones that have watermarks. Use Photoshop or Ai to remove the watermarks.
Zorioux@reddit
Op I will gladly help if your story is true, ask them for the photos and tell them to watermark it, say "what if I didn't like them?" "How can I be sure if they are high quality?"
If you get them, dm me and I will try my best to Photoshop the watermarks out
NorthRoseGold@reddit
Try your best? Just put it into CHATGPT, it will do it in 3 seconds lol.
Are you all 70 year olds or something
OreoSpamBurger@reddit
It will often refuse to remove watermarks now.
jwizzie410@reddit
warbeforepeace@reddit
You just need to tell it is a water removing robot.
amanuensisninja@reddit
More like SOUTH VENUS FLYTRAP LEAD, right?
sigh
Zorioux@reddit
Womp womp
TheLightKyanite@reddit
ChatGPT doesn’t edit photos smart one
society-dropout@reddit
❤️
MrsPancakestoyou@reddit
Kaze.ai
Will remove the watermarks for you if you can get your hands on the proofs.
SnortsSpice@reddit
It's nutty what tools are out there. I used one to trace a picture of a Roman building and output it as the file illustrator uses for a t-shirt. Then another to find a beach location based off a video to fish lol.
IAmTheLizardQueen666@reddit
They’re called Proofs
michael0n@reddit
There is no way they ask for 130$ and you get nothing for that. This isn't a circus performing. Ask what exactly you are paying for.
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
I paid $130 and an hour later I was given a catalog with prices for print sizes.
I'm not sure how else to interpret it.
CommunityGlittering2@reddit
$130 and not one printed or online photo is included, that is terrible. Do a chargeback on your card as you got nothing for your $130.
green_all@reddit
You got the session. That's what the charge is.
michael0n@reddit
But if you don't like the food, you send it back. This sounds you pay for performance, regardless of result. Which is shitty deal.
nickster701@reddit
It's how photography works, you need to do due diligence
fordianslip@reddit
They should have been upfront about the picture package charges and they would have avoided this.
Client should have asked too, bad communication all around from a service that is most likely required by educators for year book photo service
green_all@reddit
They likely are
michael0n@reddit
Nah, this is corruption. The guy can send out a email to everybody telling he offers services and if they want it or not.
dacraftjr@reddit
You’ve never used a real professional photographer, have you? Sitting fees are standard.
twomillcities@reddit
Something being standard doesn't mean it can't be challenged, or that it must be accepted.
BildoBaggens@reddit
This is why I don't care when I hear sob stories of unemployed photographers.
Vylaxv@reddit
Others in this comment recommend the use of AI as well to remove and polish the catalogue. There's no way this would be normalized last year, how the turns table.
Disclaimer: 130 all in I support. 300 on top of that, I'd rather use AI
dacraftjr@reddit
It’s called a sitting fee and is pretty standard for professional photographers.
No_Mechanic5658@reddit
They don’t print out the water marked ones anymore
sad1979@reddit
Not really a ULPT, but at my sons school the took pics in their cap and gown the summer before graduation. So for us, last summer. Those pics were ridiculously priced and we didn't get any.
However, when he graduated last month they took and sold pictures from graduation day. I ended up buying 4 for like $115 which was a much better deal.
NoraClavicle@reddit
I just kept the proofs. They claim that “oh, the proofs aren’t real photos and they’ll fade or whatever, but my son graduated in 2011 and they’re still fine. Yes, they say Proof on them, but it’s still a photo of my son and it does the job.
EdgeMiserable4381@reddit
If the school hired them, the company probably sends a stick with all the pics to the school so they can be used for the yearbook, newspaper or whatever. Befriend the secretary or IT guy. They maybe can get you some.
Lots_of_bricks@reddit
Welcome to 2025. $100 per pic for ours or like 600$ for the whole deal
allofolivesolives@reddit
https://i.redd.it/dnsh0vmkpx7f1.gif
woofer2609@reddit
I am a photography teacher who has done wedding and engagement photography. I teach in a high-school in BC. I taught my students how to properly use strobes and set up a studio, and told them explicitly not to charge for photos. They have been taking grad group photos and they are as good as the paid ones. I did not want to step on the toes of the photography company and have a conflict of interest, hence the no fee. I also teach yearbook, and seriously considered doing student photos. I would, but the time involved was not realistic as the yearbook course was only 1/7 of my course load, but it would have been a great real world experience for students. Grad photos and events are like weddings; people feel they can get away with chatging and arm and a leg. I will take my son's photos and his friends at grad.
McLifty@reddit
Did your photo session fee not include a single image? Did they tell you beforehand you had to purchase the images?
bangzilla@reddit
Of course they did, but OP didn't read the disclosure and "expected" something they didn't contract for. Thus, butt-hurt.
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
There was no disclosure. I didn't sign anything.
bangzilla@reddit
So you just handed over $130 based on what, a verbal description of the service to be provided? Sounds like a $130 lesson
McLifty@reddit
Yeah if that's the case then you might as well take the photos on your phone.
mspussykatz@reddit
If it’s Lifetouch, ask them about becoming an “ambassador” or something to that extent - they give you the photos for free in exchange for you encouraging others to sign up. I did this and never spoke to anyone about buying photos. Idk if this is still a thing
VixenTraffic@reddit
I totally forgot that I did this!
It wasn’t for lifetouch, It was for an actual professional photographer that was local.
It’s too bad photography has gone completely digital and everyone can “do” photography. 30+ years ago, it took real skills to get great pictures. lifetouch was terrible.
My senior pictures were not only great, they were free because I referred so many jocks, cheerleaders and other popular kids.
NorthvilleCoeur@reddit
Buy the cheapest photo and use a self service scanner at Office Max (or wherever) for extra copies. You may be out of luck when it comes to every pose. If school picked photographer or you did and price for copies wasn’t disclosed, complain and ask for help.
imanbushara@reddit
Just make sure you buy the largest photo or else you’re going to get pixelated photos if you buy small and print big.
Vile-The-Terrible@reddit
The real question is, what do you mean you paid $130 for the shoot and now they’re charging $25/photo? Do you mean that you HAVE to buy the photos individually to get them at all or that it costs $25 each to have them produce physical photos for you and you still get digital copies?
If it’s the former, you’re insane for paying in the first place. That’s on you. If it’s the latter, then just print your own. I’m not really sure there’s anything unethical to do here.
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
No digital copies available. The photo shoot was $130. The actual materials are an additional cost.
Vile-The-Terrible@reddit
Yeah, but what did you get out of the photoshoot? lol Why would you pay $130 up front? For the experience of a photo shoot?
ODaysForDays@reddit
These photographers have huge regional monopolies they do nickle and dime you at every opportunity. Kind of like the monopoly college board has.
dacraftjr@reddit
It’s Wagner and they have much more than a regional Monopoly, but you can have Senior photos done by anyone you want.
Jewniversal_Remote@reddit
Do you have a link to their site/do you know for sure that it's Wagner?
dacraftjr@reddit
No and no.
Jewniversal_Remote@reddit
Lol so maybe you just hate Wagner. Assuming you're talking about the one in the Midwest, I'm sure you've got reasons. Kinda wild to blame them for this though
noyogapants@reddit
Back in the 90s my sister did hers at Sears! I think we paid $25 total (sitting fee and a package of prints) and they actually looked really nice.
ODaysForDays@reddit
I thought they were just a midwest thing? Certainly not who we had in TX.
dacraftjr@reddit
Maybe we just have different definitions of regional in this context.
Jewniversal_Remote@reddit
I work in volume photography and yes, what you're describing is true in higher-end markets. It's usually called a sitting fee and will typically come with 1-2 photos from the shoot with the option to buy more. My company would never advise a volume photographer charging a sitting fee to not give out anything, though, we would absolutely expect awful sales from that event.
nickster701@reddit
Pretty common for photographers to charge hourly for the shoot and then for the edited photos after. School pictures though, excluding senior photos, is crazy.
sawdeanz@reddit
Uh no not really. Unless this is some sort of fresh scam.
Paying for a photo shoot for no photos makes zero sense. Why pay $130 if you aren’t going to receive anything? Usually a photo shoot includes at least a couple delivered photos and it’s common to pay for extra prints beyond that.
Back when I was in school you didn’t pay for the session…because every kid had to do it for the yearbook. Parents could then buy their own prints for extra.
The real life pro tip is just take you kid to JC penny and get some nice photos there instead of dealing with the predatory school photo companies
Vile-The-Terrible@reddit
Edited copies, sure I can see that. I still feel that the customer should have the right to have the raw digital copies photos though. Realistically, I want whatever was in the agreement to be upheld. lol OP just made a bad decision going forward with it in the first place if they didn't want to pay for copies.
ionmoon@reddit
Generally the school gets a copy of one photo for each person for the yearbook.
So you can privately do senior photos and submit a photo to the yearbook committee, or you can use the school photographer (usually a large company that does school photos specifically) and pay for the session and they'll use that photo and you can buy copies if you choose to.
I've never heard of one that charged that much and the family got no copies, though. But I haven't priced them lately. IME either the session is free and you buy photos if you want them, or you pay for the session and get a *small* package.
Vile-The-Terrible@reddit
Yeah. Its been quite a while since I was in high school, but I'm pretty sure the photo for the yearbook was free and then they gave the parents the option to buy photos separately. I feel like that was a solid arrangement and most parents were willing to pay to get them anyways and you had a bit of goodwill since the shoot itself was free. Basically all the parents bought.
No-Nefariousness8816@reddit
Sounds like the photography company has figured out a ULPT!
NikonShooter_PJS@reddit
School photographer here. (Don’t shoot me? Idgaf about any of it lol)
So I used to do senior portraits maybe seven or eight years ago for a small studio that had this business model.
Basically, the way it worked was parents had a couple of options. Option one was they paid NOTHING (including the sitting fee) and the studio took a photo of the kid for the yearbook. Period. That was the beginning and end of the transaction. They weren’t required to buy anything. They weren’t sold anything. They wouldn’t get the photos. The pic would go to the yearbook and that was it.
Option two was the parents paid a basic $50 sitting fee for us to take their child’s full session of photos in our mobile studio that we brought to the school’s parking lot (it was a giant trailer attached to a truck that was maybe 12-18 feet long?).
So what is a basic sitting fee? Well, in my case, this type of session with a senior involved taking 12-14 poses of them with 3-4 backdrops in all. It typically took 15-20 minutes and we could only schedule three per hour we were there.
The sitting fee (in this case if we were fully booked three $50 payments for $150 total) covered my hourly pay of around $20, the cost to run our trailer (it ran on diesel gas and was pricey), the basic business overhead, the cost to pay our full time studio editors to edit the 12 best photos, the price to physically print the proof photos that were mailed to the student’s house and the cost of postage.
There really wasn’t much profit to be had per kid under this model. The point of the session was to give a basic photography session at a fairly low price (At the time full senior photographers were charging $200 for the session plus charging for prints.) and to hope the kids bought photo packages.
There were also two other price points for sitting fees. $75 got you everything from the first session plus an additional batch of photos in the physical studio we had. $125 or so got you all of that and an outdoor session at a beach or somewhere near your school.
The sitting fee was a separate cost because you were paying for the actual staff of human beings working for you. At no point was any student REQUIRED to pay for this.
It worked and likely still works the way any good or service works. If you want it, you pay for it.
Folks who complain about the costs of these sessions are uneducated at what it costs to run a photography business like this and what a similar session with a professional photographer would cost on its own (I’d personally never take a session like this for less than $300)
As to the folks in here saying “Oh, just take your own photos … I say go for it. Camera phones are fine now and entry level professional cameras aren’t too pricey. Shoot until your heart is content.
Just don’t complain when your kid’s senior photo looks like shit because you don’t know anything about proper lighting or posing. And don’t whine when her friend has a better photo than she does because she was willing to pay for a professional photographer.
People like to trash photographers because they think it’s so easy in 2025 to be one and they’re right. It is easy to grab a camera and call yourself a photographer.
But it is hard fucking work to actually be a GOOD photographer and while you may not care about photo quality, I assure you many people do and the results will be glaring and embarrassingly obvious who skimped out and who didn’t.
And please don’t come at me thinking I’m overvaluing myself. I don’t give a fuck if you hire a photographer or you don’t. I only work with people who appreciate my skill and efforts and I am BEYOND fully booked.
I don’t need, or want your little $135 sitting fee you speak of like it’s a seven figure military contract or the headaches that come with it with dealing with cheapskate clients. 🤣🤣🤣
eneug@reddit
I mean I generally agree with your take on quality photographers, but no need to get snarky about the fees here. We don’t know OP’s financial situation. That is a lot of money for someone living hand to mouth.
Otaraka@reddit
The truth is somewhere in between. It is a job. But it also is an area that does involve various practises that make it sound like more value being offered than is really the case.
entropic_apotheosis@reddit
I’m almost positive it means it cost $130 to book the session and then they took the photos and if she wants the ones they took it’s another $300. I ran into this with a small photography business in my own town with my daughters senior pics. We selected 3 of a couple dozen they took and if we wanted a “package” it was $300 for the three we picked and we got 25 photos in varying sizes for $300 (mostly 8x10 and 5x7, we only got 12 “wallet” like 4 of each pose). I hadn’t understood either, thought I was booking a photo session and the total cost was (for us) $150. No, $150 was the hour of time it cost the photographer to set up and take the pics. The actual photos were ~$300 if we wanted them when they were done.
4nimal@reddit
I’m old, but I remember something similar at my school. If we wanted our senior portraits in the yearbook at all, they had to be done by the contracted photography studio.
michael0n@reddit
Some "photographers" are so desperate for work they have usually someone at the school who is on that. Hundreds of pupils times 100$ and not even providing a single printed photo is scummy as hell.
NorthRoseGold@reddit
Don't buy them.
Hire someone cheap.
Plug the pix into AI for editing.
Order prints from shutterfly
E__Rock@reddit
So funny thing, Sfly actually owns the nation's largest school photography company. You can also not send images with copyright to a professional printing service without proof of release.
skits112189@reddit
I never got senior photos done cause I knew it was too expensive, only photo of me in the yearbook is the class photo. I thought they would use my student ID photo instead they just didn’t list me at all
skits112189@reddit
Just remember to submit something
Weak-Practice2388@reddit
School pictures is a monster rip off…got a cell phone then take pictures yourself
supercabbage802@reddit
for 300 you could get a good camera, and you can go anywhere to take your own pictures
Good_Grief_CB@reddit
Sadly for $300 you’re going to get a camera that’s about the same quality as the one on your phone.
supercabbage802@reddit
oh
lauooff@reddit
Going to a studio would be cheaper
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
School won't accept photos taken elsewhere.
lauooff@reddit
Oh that sucks
Monopoly going on there
Paxuz01@reddit
pay with a CC, then Charge Back?
HaElfParagon@reddit
Take your own school photos...
NikonShooter_PJS@reddit
School photographer here.
It’s gonna blow your mind when you find out that MOST schools with photography contracts with studios like this do not allow you to submit senior photos that were not taken by the studio for use in the yearbook.
In this example, most times the studio is required by the contract to provide you a free yearbook only photo but if you want something nice for your senior year yearbook, you either accept the deal as it stands or deal with the disappointment of a photo that may or may not be good.
HaElfParagon@reddit
Oh no I know, I remember high school lol.
At least where I'm from (new england), around here the photographer takes the photos, the school pays for your yearbook photo, and then you can buy copies for yourself if you want and exorbitant prices.
It was just very common for families to hire their own photographer to recreate the photo for way fucking cheaper lol
Vegaprime@reddit
Will ai not remove the "proof" stuff yet?
Buttoshi@reddit
For what it's worth op, I don't look at my highschool pictures
differentiated06@reddit
Ok yearbook advisor here.
Companies are charging $20-$50 in most areas for basic photos for seniors. They provide the cap & gown for cap & gown photos and the fancy drape/tux for formal photos. These are the ones required for the school needs.
OP if you paid $130 you paid for an addon such as retouching or additional scenes. Complain to the company. Keep complaining. They will reverse the charge or give you something for free.
Then, order just the digital image. It's hiding somewhere on the website but it's there. Call of you can't find it. THEN you can print it at Walgreens or whatever like others are suggesting.
Note about the "download it" solution. The online file is a tiny thumbnail and will be useless to print at any size bigger than 2x3".
ClippyCantHelp@reddit
Do you know how long photographers work to edit those photos? It’s not jsut a press of a button, each photos takes multiple hours of editing to complete. Per photo. $25 per photo is very reasonable. They’re forever
Inevitable-Crazy-383@reddit
Yes, each photo takes multiple hours of editing.. ..if you are a shitty photographer.
JDMdrifterboi@reddit
Each photo takes hours?
lorenthomaspalmer@reddit
If it takes you hours to edit a photo, you’re a shitty photographer. If you know what you are doing, there should be minimal edits… if any - especially for a studio shoot. Even if you’re shooting in RAW, it doesn’t take hours. If I wanna crop something or change the exposure, it takes seconds.
CommunityGlittering2@reddit
you forgot the "/s" they all have their editing setup automatically. Please, they just need to click one button and it will edit the whole batch.
assplunderer@reddit
No, the fuck it doesn’t.
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
Lololol
The "photographer" is a dude working hourly. The company has a contract with the entire county.
The "proofs" were produced before my daughter could change out back into her street clothes.
limellama1@reddit
Ask other parents. I guarantee someone else has an actual independent photographer they used. Hell try a Facebook group for any local college. Will probably be students there doing something related bto media that will do a shoot for cash/cheap
cgtdream@reddit
Think you're in the wrong sub, bud.
ClippyCantHelp@reddit
My wife’s a photographer so I won’t stand for people cheaping out on them. Even if it took an hour, $25 is cheap. Why do people think you can pay $50 for a bunch of photos like all they have to do is press a button?
I expect downvotes
Illustrious_Job1458@reddit
To be fair your wife is an amazing photographer. My taint has never looked so good.
DannySantoro@reddit
What do you mean, "you people"?
SFSecrets@reddit
Your wife is a big difference from school photo scammer
cgtdream@reddit
You should expect down votes. The sub is literally about people asking for unethical advice.
And with consideration to your background, your energy is best spent away from this post.
FirstSurvivor@reddit
No, it doesn't take hours to edit individual school photos. What would you even do for hours?
onthenextmaury@reddit
They usually send a booklet with the proofs first. I just ripped out the ones I wanted to keep and sent the book back without ordering any. They didn't notice
calpernia@reddit
Just dress her up and take a photo yourself. There are countless free apps to make it look nicer, or add in a background. Print them at CVS.
The important thing is to capture this moment of her being this age, at this moment in time. It doesn't matter whether some grifting school photographer takes it, or you do.
BourbonSucks@reddit
this should be higher. please edit in the word "piss disc" to not violate rule #1
calpernia@reddit
Thanks, done!
Teract@reddit
Such bad advice. Your average photographer can make an average looking person appear to be average looking. A good photographer can make an average person appear beautiful. The average person has a hard time making a good looking photograph of a beautiful person. And you can almost always tell when someone uses an app to brush up their images.
The_best_is_yet@reddit
I don’t know, I actually think most school photos look really stiff and unnatural. It’s better if can capture someone doing something they enjoy; makes them laugh. Ever notice that people selling frames use pics like that (more natural, not posed?)
Teract@reddit
School photos sure, people look stiff. That's bulk photography work. Seniors usually replace their school photo with one from a paid private session.
DiverHikerSkier@reddit
reading these kinds of things make me so glad I don't have kids lol. I have rescue fur babies and I make my own photo shoots all day long with them, might be a full time job but these fluffbutts are already living free in my house and won't pay for sh*t. sigh.
Independent-Oil2334@reddit
https://www.watermarkremover.io did this with my kids school photos (if they send you watermarked proofs). Screen shot, crop, upload to site.
greenmachine4130@reddit
Do your own photo shoot. You will have actual memories and genuine appreciation for those photos
1quirky1@reddit
We bought a couple of the pictures to pay the photographer for their time. Their prices were obnoxious. For the rest, there are a few free watermark removers online. Some work better than others.
toolsavvy@reddit
I'm pretty sure you signed a contract that laid out that you were merely paying for the photo shoot and how much photos would cost.
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
Nope!
toolsavvy@reddit
Then you have a legal case to get your pictures included for the $130 initial cost. Sue in small claims court.
SpaceForceAwakens@reddit
Photographer here. Go fuck yourself.
Hefty-Profession-310@reddit
That's not what a monopoly is
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
Daughter cannot use photos taken elsewhere for her yearbook or senior photos. Literally a monopoly.
Hefty-Profession-310@reddit
That's not what a monopoly is. That's a contract the school signed for a service. They could have hired many different companies for this service.
Yosho2k@reddit (OP)
OK? And what is my option?
Hefty-Profession-310@reddit
There seems to be a few suggestions in other replies.
Are you required to purchase the package for the photos to be used in the yearbook or senior photos?
2ner1337@reddit
They always give a copy of the photos for an idea of how they look, that are smaller and have their watermark. Post in r/photoshoprequest with a listed tip and ask them to enlarge and remove watermark. Maybe $10 a photo. Done.
Bubbamusicmaker@reddit
Have your daughter find the best student photographer. Have your daughter reach out and see if they can set up a photo shoot time. Might cost $150 - $200
scimitar1312@reddit
Piss discs at the company HQ
kroboz@reddit
I always just use photoshop to remove the watermarks from my kid's photos, then upscale as needed. No way I'm paying so much for a photo that already exists, that I paid for with my taxes, and is already on the internet.
No_Giraffe2555@reddit
Pay them.
not_oktoday@reddit
Do what I did - never bought either the $300 senior photos or their grad package. I scanned them in at Walgreens and then sent them back. I also just saved some to my laptop (with the watermark) and used free AI to remove the watermarks. Turned out perfectly!
SpaceBandit666@reddit
When I graduated uni I went to a photographer who had props and costumes and they had grad gowns. Did a package deal with various poses and props, I even did a different color gown because fuck it!
NorthRoseGold@reddit
No one wants those shitty school pix.
Take your kid somewhere nice and take photos yourself
hello__brooklyn@reddit
Does no one just use the free watermarked sample ones anymore?
BlazeDeath@reddit
If you can pay with a credit card, do a chargeback for fraud after you get the photos. You will need to get a new credit card issued to you, but you also get your money back.
EarlVanDorn@reddit
Bad advice.
rsn_partykitten@reddit
I mean, it's an unethical life advice sub. I kinda feel like this is the exact place for that kind of advice.
EarlVanDorn@reddit
It could be a criminal charge and the person doing it might end up uncreditworthy. If the OP were to charge back on the original sitting charge, it's one thing, but to agree to take the additional photos and then do the chargeback is going to be very problamatic.
sfgothgirl@reddit
Hire an independent photographer to do a second "senior photos" shoot, and say that you want to pay to receive the negatives. if you want to save some money consider hiring a photography student from any art schools in your area.
virtual_adam@reddit
There are generally 2 options
1) they host the image without watermarks, the watermarks are more programatic, you need someone with some engineering knowledge to figure it out
2) download the watermarked images and use one of the many ai watermark removers and quality upscalers. They’re really good these days
Vegetable_Use_9275@reddit
Take the picture with the green screen and put it on a green screen remover on Google
nikoboivin@reddit
So, you mention school photographer but the experience you describe sounds like you booked a private session with the photographer, in which case they are well entitled to charge for the shoot itself in case you buy nothing but from when I used to do it, the session fee would come off or lower based on the purchases. It was really more of a way to protect my business from clients wasting my time.
lambsoflettuce@reddit
Take your own pics.