WHY do you guys hate raw egg but proceeds to eat raw cookie dough?
Posted by Azngorl@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 130 comments
In elementary school, we were making cookies and my American classmates started eating the raw dough before baking and i was shocked... Growing up in America as a Japanese, I would tell people about eating raw eggs and ppl would look at me like ( ˭̴̵̶᷄൧̑ ˭̴̵̶᷅ ) but then I see the same ppl devour raw cookie dough and Id be like ( ˭̴̵̶᷄൧̑ ˭̴̵̶᷅ ) at them WHYYYYY
hohner1@reddit
We actually do use it in several cocktails and orange julius I believe.
PuzzleheadedLemon353@reddit
One is just a raw goopy egg and one is a sweet tasting, sugar enriched with chocolate chips in it dough...it's delicious to lick the spatula when baking cookies! I only make this at Christmas, so it's just a little treat while you are baking...I haven't died yet.
ilPrezidente@reddit
I mean raw cookie dough tastes 1000 times better than a raw egg
Responsible_Side8131@reddit
And usually, raw cookie dough is even better than cookies
Azngorl@reddit (OP)
okok after reading these replies, I am going to conclude that it's because of the taste!
But I have seen people talk about the risk of salmonella in raw eggs but then that same person eats raw dough and tells me that IM disgusting for my people to eat raw egg with rice in Japan... Is it like a culture thing??? They say raw egg on rice is risky but isn't it the same with cookie dough?????
IWillBaconSlapYou@reddit
I don't typically like raw egg, but man I like it on rice! So good. It's definitely about the texture for me. A plain raw egg would be slimy, but with rice it's totally different. I'm a white American-born woman who grew up in an almost entirely white community, but now live in a 50/50 Asian/white community and have a Taiwanese husband and kids. I've definitely figured out just from experience that multi-generational Americans often don't like slimy textures, whereas people more recently from various other countries are fine with it. Another example is the fatty side bit of a steak. My friends cut all theirs off and then my husband ate them 😂
IDGAF about salmonella, I mean I don't want to get it, but I never have. And I definitely sneak a little raw dough when I'm making cookies.
Azngorl@reddit (OP)
Yesss omg the fatty side of the steak! The BEST part lol
Saltpork545@reddit
There is always a risk of salmonella when it comes to eggs unless you go with pasteurized eggs but almost no one does except people who are immunocompromised.
If you want to be ultra safe, you can do pasteurized eggs for cookie dough to eat.
We see raw eggs as far more dangerous than cookie dough because we don't culturally tend to eat raw eggs but do tend to eat cookie dough but the reality of it is that both contain raw egg and you're dealing with people's bias on the subject.
Raw eggs always run the risk of salmonella. Always. It's not something fixed by Japanese egg logistics or American egg logistics either. It's just a thing.
However, there are dangers can be said for eating raw fish, unwashed vegetables and fruits, meat that's undercooked, and so on.
If you're otherwise healthy and it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it. If you're in the middle of chemo right now, you should probably stick to cookie dough ice cream or use pasteurized eggs.
nvkylebrown@reddit
There are people in the US that eat raw eggs, it's just not common.
Salmonella risk is higher in any uncooked poultry product vs cooked. I suppose you could compare salmonella rates, but I expect it's pretty low in most developed countries, regardless of raw egg practices.
The amount of egg that you'd be getting in cookie dough is much less than eating the whole egg raw. If a batch of cookies takes two eggs, you'd have to eat half the batch raw to get the same amount of raw egg, so there's that too.
As a kid my mom made lots of cookies at home. Not all cookie doughs are equal, so... keep that in mind as well.
Sufficient_Cod1948@reddit
It's wild that you didn't come to that conclusion before asking the question.
Azngorl@reddit (OP)
lol I just never found the idea appetizing, but maybe I'll try it next time!
butt_honcho@reddit
There's a risk, but it's miniscule. The warnings are there because it's higher than zero, and they need to cover themselves.
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
You’ve never had raw egg in Japan I take it? Raw egg over rice with some shoyu and green onion is extremely tasty. It also really good on a beef bowl.
Courwes@reddit
Is it raw or is it runny. There’s a difference. Runny eggs can be good but they are still cooked.
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
It’s raw. Lookup a dish called Tamago Kake Gohan. However, you can also add a raw egg to your meal at most chain beef bowl spots in Japan; including Yoshinoya. Pretty common to use raw egg as a dipping sauce for dishes like sukiyaki as well.
Sinrus@reddit
Tamago Kake Gohan is my go-to fast poverty meal. Delicious and takes about five minutes to make.
Mr_BillyB@reddit
No, the vast majority of us have never been to Japan.
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
They’re replying, rather facetiously I might add, to a Japanese person that seems to enjoy their nation’s raw egg dishes.
Mr_BillyB@reddit
Are they being facetious? Seems like a pretty straightforward response, tbh.
revengeappendage@reddit
Yeah. Weird how adding butter and sugar and flour and vanilla and chocolate totally changes the raw egg into something else much more appetizing.
DerpedOffender@reddit
Pretty much this
Rich-Hovercraft-65@reddit
I'm the opposite. I will make aioli or salad dressing with raw eggs but refuse to eat anything with raw flour.
OnAnInvestigation@reddit
I’m not reading all the comments to see if anyone has mentioned it, but the raw flour is really gross to eat!!!
My mom would tell me growing up not to eat the raw egg but I have learned since really getting into baking how flour is pretty filthy and not meant to eat without baking first.
RsonW@reddit
With raw dough, the much bigger concern is the raw flour rather than the raw egg.
Wheat sits in silos for months getting shit on by whatever pests take residence in said silos.
You can buy "raw" dough fit for human consumption made with precooked or otherwise sterilized flour.
Azngorl@reddit (OP)
o my god,, i am traumatized by flour now
IWillBaconSlapYou@reddit
My husband is from Taiwan, and says that American-born people generally have an aversion to slimy textures. I know I do. Not sure why it's a thing, though.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
I don't eat raw cookie dough, and I dont know many people that do.
reichrunner@reddit
This part is untrue. Technically speaking, the way they are cleaned in the US means the risk is lower, but it is already insignificant either way.
Crayshack@reddit
With raw cookie dough, there's actually a higher risk from the raw flour than from the raw egg.
RsonW@reddit
Like, a ridiculously higher risk from the flour.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
My mistake. I'll correct it.
Courwes@reddit
To add salmonella is more easily transmitted in other countries precisely because they don’t wash their eggs the way we do. It’s also why they can leave them on the counter and in the US we have to refrigerate them.
shelwood46@reddit
I'd also add, they can leave them on the counter at room temp for about 2 weeks before they go rotten. If they refrigerate the eggs, they will get the much longer life, at least double, like we do by always chilling our eggs. There's nothing keeping them from refrigerating their eggs, too, but they often do not.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
Right, because we remove the natural membrane but that isn't a universal egg processing method.
Lucky-Firefighter456@reddit
That's so funny because my experience is exactly the opposite. Everyone I know loves the forbidden dough. Especially if it's chocolate chip cookies or brownie batter.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
The only cookie dough I know of that people eat is the "edible cookie dough" with no eggs or raw flour.
ShakarikiGengoro@reddit
Edible cookie dough that Ive seen mostly still has egg but the flour is heat treated.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
Interesting. I've only seen the egg and wheat free versions. Now I want to try it.
ShakarikiGengoro@reddit
Yeah I think most Pillsbury cookie dough is safe to eat now and still has egg.
TangerineSapphire@reddit
I wonder if they are possibly using pasteurized eggs in it now. I love French silk pie which traditionally used raw eggs but most recipes now call for pasteurized eggs.
ShakarikiGengoro@reddit
I was under the assumption that everything sold in the US had to he pasteurized.
TangerineSapphire@reddit
Which would explain why prepackaged "raw" cookie dough is safe.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
This thread has made me realize that I am probably showing my age.
I also haven't bought prepared cookie dough in such a long time. Thank you for correcting me.
ShakarikiGengoro@reddit
Well I'll give you that I tried looking up a recipe but most homemade recipes still replace the egg. The corporations probably do something to the eggs.
shelwood46@reddit
Technically I did this as a child, but only because I loved to eat the creamed sugar my mom made as step one of cookie making, which is blending sugar into room temperature butter, before any other ingredients are added. It is delicious.
albertnormandy@reddit
More likely in the same way that a elephant farting makes the Earth more likely to move on its orbit.
The chief concern with eating raw dough is the flour not the eggs.
NightOwlWraith@reddit
Uncooked flour can lead to E. Coli risks. Uncooked eggs can lead to salmonella risks.
Both are a possible risk, however statistically unlikely.
kerfuffle_fwump@reddit
It’s a texture issue. Raw eggs are slimy.
Besides, the food poisoning from raw cooki dough is more likely to come from the uncooked flour than the raw egg.
RsonW@reddit
Infinitely more likely
Mountain_Man_88@reddit
This is like asking "why don't you guys eat flour if you love cake so much?"
RsonW@reddit
This touches on the food safety reason why raw dough is bad.
Raw eggs are …likely… safe to eat. Riskier than cooked eggs, but safe "enough" for human consumption.
Raw flour, though? Fuck all that. Birds, rodents, and insects freely shit in silos of wheat before it is ground into flour. That must be cooked before it is safe to eat.
With raw cookie dough, the concern is the flour, not the eggs.
AtlasThe1st@reddit
Raw cookie dough can be made completely safe, but the eggs arent the biggest concern in them. The flour is. Raw flour can contain E. Coli bacteria. You can make completely safe cookie dough by leaving out the eggs, as they arent needed if youre not cooking them, and baking the flour beforehand to kill any bacteria.
KikiCorwin@reddit
There's recipes for cookie dough intended to be eaten raw. They typically don't use raw egg and have cooked flour to prevent food poisoning.
Hot_Car6476@reddit
Do a test:
1) Eat some raw cookie dough
2) Drink/eat some raw egg
3) Which do you prefer?
Hot_Car6476@reddit
That said, I know Americans who will NOT eat raw cookie dough. I think they're missing out one of the great pleasures in life. Needlessly so.
Suppafly@reddit
It's not actually safe since you can get salmonella from raw eggs, especially in the US, but most of us are willing to take the chance occasionally for a taste of raw cookie dough.
NobodyNamedMe@reddit
E coli from the raw flour is also a risk. Possibly more than the salmonella risk from the eggs.
Hot_Car6476@reddit
Is there a risk? Sure. Everything carries risks. The risk of salmonella from raw cookie dough is laughably small. Many people live a lifetime of eating cookie dough and never get salmonella. I wish someone would do a double blind study to confirm this, but I imagine it's 99.937463% of lifelong cookie dough eaters who make it through life without contracting salmonella.
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
I think he means that raw eggs in the US are treated like they are dangerous to eat unless cooked, due to salmonella fears. But then people eat cookie dough with raw egg in it.
The answer is people are sometimes irrational.
Azngorl@reddit (OP)
YES sorry my question may not been as clear lol
This is what I'm talking about! Ppl be fearing about salmonella but proceeds to eat cookie dough WITH risk of salmonella
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
You're right, it's illogical. My guess is cookie dough tastes so good that people are willing to take the risk in eating it.
I should add that salmonella in eggs is very rare in the US, but people have an irrational fear of it. Like they will eat raw oysters, which are a million times more risky, but not raw eggs.
Shadw21@reddit
It's much the same about not eating undercooked pork in the US because of the Trichinosis parasite. After decades of propaganda saying it's unsafe, and little to no advertisement saying otherwise, even after it's mostly been eradicated from the US pork industry.
Yes, the FDA has updated guidelines on the subject, but the average Joe isn't looking up FDA guidelines for anything unless they work in a related industry.
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
I ordered spaghetti carbonara in Italy once, and the waiter made a point of telling me, "Do you know there are raw eggs in it?" I was like, yeah, of course, but I assume he said that because he has had Americans in the past freak out when they see a raw egg yolk on top.
baalroo@reddit
Raw egg is not very tasty, cookie dough is.
It's that simple.
I also wouldn't eat raw flour.
pplatt69@reddit
Because egg is an ingredient, not a sauce.
I don't not eat raw egg because it's raw. I don't eat raw egg because I hate both the taste and consistency.
Do you eat a raw onion like an apple? Do you take a box of raw chicken or ground beef to work as lunch? Do you drink flour from a cup while you watch Netflix?
Those are all ingredients to me, and other than the onion, I don't eat them raw. However I also don't eat onion on its own.
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
Raw chicken isn’t terribly uncommon in Japan.
pplatt69@reddit
Outlier data points aside ..
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
You’re literally replying to a Japanese person asking about American aversions to raw foods. Bringing up a raw food that is eaten in OPs home country as an example of a “weird” food doesn’t exactly work when raw chicken isn’t considered that weird in their country.
pplatt69@reddit
And you are ignoring the rest of the examples and harping on one as having weight that refuses the entirety of what I said.
Important-Hat-Man@reddit
Don't worry about that guy. He's your typical "spent a week in Japan and is now the only expert in the room on everything from Japan, and must defend it at all costs" style weeb. He ate raw chicken once in one restaurant in Tokyo, so he assures you it's totally common and completely safe. Just ignore him, he's all over this thread desperately white knighting Japanese food.
pplatt69@reddit
If you want that to matter okay -
Some Americans DO eat raw egg and some Americans DON'T eat raw cookie dough.
There. I've used your "logic."
Important-Hat-Man@reddit
It's really not. It's a regional dish, and very uncommon outside that region. It's also not magically safe just because Japan (there've been actual studies on it).
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
I mean, I had some in Tokyo and it was fine. Don’t think that restaurant serves foreigners anymore though. They specialized in oyakodon and had a chicken salad that was made from raw poultry.
Important-Hat-Man@reddit
Do you understand that just because you ate it once and were fine doesn't mean it's magically safe to eat? Not everyone who eats raw meat gets sick, but it's still not entirely safe to eat.
Also, I live in Tokyo - I'm aware that raw chicken is available here. You eating it in one restaurant does not make it common.
TsundereLoliDragon@reddit
Because eating plain raw egg is nasty and cookie dough is amazing. Like you don't understand the difference?
NintendogsWithGuns@reddit
Most Japanese people don’t eat raw egg by itself. It’s usually seasoned with soy sauce and served with beef, chicken, and/or rice.
TsundereLoliDragon@reddit
Or mixed in raw with hot rice which essentially cooks the egg.
Bluemonogi@reddit
You are not supposed to eat raw unpasteurized eggs here solo or in raw cookie dough. Cookie dough tastes nice though so some people go ahead despite the risks. Besides the raw egg, uncooked flour also should not be eaten as it could have e coli or salmonella.
These days you can buy cookie dough that is made to be safe to be eaten uncooked. I wonder if that confuses some kids into thinking all cookie dough is fine to eat.
I wouldn’t find a raw egg mixed with rice appealing because of the texture.
Imaginary_Ladder_917@reddit
I’m just here to say those are the most complex emojis I’ve ever seen and I love it.
Foxfyre25@reddit
It's more dangerous, especially if you consider the additional risk of uncooked flour.
Who needs therapy? I get my thrills in a tube of toll house doughtl.
Azngorl@reddit (OP)
LAMAO
Wolf482@reddit
Egg wash with hot pot is absolutely awesome.
thabonch@reddit
I don't hate raw egg.
ScatterTheReeds@reddit
Raw eggs mixed with sugar ➡️ tasty
Tommy_Wisseau_burner@reddit
Because I like cookie dough and not eggs
DummyThiccDude@reddit
I dont eat raw cookie dough unless i make it without eggs, specifically for the purpose of eating it raw.
thatsad_guy@reddit
Cookie dough tastes good
Littleboypurple@reddit
I mean, we aren't the only ones considering a bunch of British Celebrities thought the idea of eating a raw egg was super gross. I'm also sure that the fact a raw egg is just a cold and slimy raw liquid while raw cookie dough has the addition of flour, butter, sugar, vanilla, and other mix-ins to probably make it taste much better.
Crayshack@reddit
My dislike of raw eggs is mostly a texture thing. The texture of raw cookie dough is completely different.
Riker_Omega_Three@reddit
You do realize that raw cookie dough tastes better than a raw egg...right?
GhostOfJamesStrang@reddit
Uh, because cookie dough doesn't taste or have the texture of raw egg.
SoundTight952@reddit
Because it's tasty
Courwes@reddit
Cookie dough has a lot more ingredients than just raw eggs. I’m not even sure how you can make a comparison like this. You can’t even taste the egg in cookie dough as the sugar (and whatever else you put in) tends to oversaturate the taste.
scuba-turtle@reddit
56 yo American here. Considering I've eaten raw cookie dough, raw cake batter, and egg nogs my entire life I've likely sampled several thousand raw eggs, and several thousand dabs of raw flour. I exercise a normal amount of caution when I make raw egg products but I've never had any troubles. I consider the risk of eating raw eggs as part of normal life, much like the risks of driving.
andmen2015@reddit
Maybe because raw cookie dough doesn't taste like raw eggs. There was a time when body builders chugged down raw eggs. When I was a child if any of us were sick, my parents would give us milk with a raw egg blended into it. They said it would help us get well. We never got sick from drinking it. And please, no one take my story as me saying people should do this. No one should consume raw eggs in any way shape or form.
scuba-turtle@reddit
My mom fed us eggnog as well. Great stuff, I still have it on occasion.
Scribe625@reddit
Literally never heard of anyone eating raw eggs before. My grandma never even let me eat raw cookie dough because the raw eggs in it "wasn't safe" until cooked due to the salmonella risk, but I always snuck a little because raw cookie dough tastes too good to pass up.
FiendishCurry@reddit
Growing up, if we just wanted to ear the raw cookie dough....we didn't add an egg. It tasted almost the same without any risk of salmonella. I don't eat raw cookie dough that contains eggs.
ProfessionalDot8419@reddit
Probably because cookie dough has numerous additional ingredients, besides raw eggs. These ingredients are mixed together and heavily mask the taste of the eggs.
101bees@reddit
Eating raw eggs tastes like eating snot. Raw cookie dough tastes way better.
Mfees@reddit
Raw eggs taste like crap raw cookie dough is delicious
Xistential0ne@reddit
If your crap tastes like raw egg see a doctor.
Calm-Vacation-5195@reddit
Some Americans do eat raw eggs. Yes, there is some risk of illness from it, but they do it anyway. I even have a raw egg chocolate mousse recipe that I've been making for decades, and no one has ever gotten sick from it.
The real risk from eating raw cookie dough, though, isn't the raw egg but the raw flour. Nonetheless, most Americans have grown up eating raw cookie dough (and cake batter and almost any other batter) without getting sick from it, so we keep doing it.
hansuluthegrey@reddit
Yall claim to dislike warm water but love coca cola. Why ?
SpunkySideKick@reddit
Not all cookie doughs have eggs in them.
Americans spent their entire lives being told the thing that will make you sick is raw eggs (salmonella). It was only recently made well-known that the salmonella risk is in the Flour, not the eggs.
stroppo@reddit
Raw dough is sweet and gooey like a half melted candy bar. A raw egg you can only swallow; nothing to chew.
Maleficent_Coast_320@reddit
I don't do either. I am a transplant recipient, and raw eggs are a no-go anymore.
FlappyClap@reddit
We’re Schrödinger’s Country.
We exist in multiple states simultaneously, and settle into a state, and often all states, dependent on the biases of the observer.
In this case, the observer noticed we hate raw eggs and saw us eating raw cookie dough, not knowing there are 345,000,000 Americans, all of whom have differing opinions.
NoKindnessIsWasted@reddit
People eat raw cookie dough despite there being raw egg in it.
Why are people just eating raw eggs? Not tasty.
SaoirseMayes@reddit
I've never heard of anyone eating raw cookie dough, eating raw eggs are far more common.
piwithekiwi@reddit
raw cookie dough literally has raw egg in it...
livelongprospurr@reddit
No eggs. Vegan. Leave the baby chickens alone.
azuth89@reddit
I just don't like the texture of runny egg. Once its thoroughly mixed into something like cookie dough thats a non issue.
On the safety side, raw flour is a bigger issue with things like cookie dough than raw egg but I'm not sure how many people know that. But, ya know, even knowing that safety wasnt what was keeping me from eating raw egg so its not the deciding factor on cookie dough either.
machagogo@reddit
Eating raw cookie dough is just that that common a thing, but you do realize there is a difference in taste and texture between a raw and and cookie dough right? Right?
ALoungerAtTheClubs@reddit
Raw eggs are slimy. Cookie dough is not.
Aggressive-Bath-1906@reddit
Have you ever eaten raw cookie dough? It’s delicious.
Have you ever eaten a raw egg? It’s disgusting!
MarksmannT@reddit
I don't like the taste of raw egg but add some flour, sugar, vanilla, and chocolate and I'm good to go.
Expensive-Shame@reddit
Probably mostly just due to what we're familiar with. While technically unsafe, it's a very common experience for American kids to eat raw cookie dough while baking with parents, while eating raw egg is almost unheard of (some people like their eggs underdone, but almost never raw).
The texture also would get to me. I don't know if it's accurate, but I also think I'd feel more unsafe eating an entire raw egg than eating raw cookie dough due to the amount of egg involved.
VeronicaMarsupial@reddit
The texture of raw eggs is revolting. It disappears when they're mixed into all the other ingredients.
axel2191@reddit
People have a fear of salmonella when eating raw eggs, but conveniently forget that when eating cookie dough. In reality, you're more likely to get sick from the raw flour.
HardLithobrake@reddit
Raw eggs are fucking delicious, but seldom consumed here due to perceived food poisoning risk and there simply being few local foodways that call for them.
The result is that food safety standards do not account for people consuming raw egg and said risk increases. Not to say that you can't, but the risk of getting ill as a result is higher.
Folksma@reddit
Eating cookie dough- Yummy, makes me not sad
Eating raw egg- No taste good, probably going to throw up
Ok_Gas5386@reddit
Sugar and butter
molten_dragon@reddit
The dislike of raw eggs for most people is about the taste and texture, not about food safety.
invisibleman13000@reddit
Raw cookie dough doesn't have the same taste or texture as a raw egg. Plus, cookie dough looks more appetizing the a raw egg.
butt_honcho@reddit
It's not an aversion to the egg itself, but to how it's presented. Raw egg on its own has a texture many people dislike. Raw egg in cookie dough has lost that texture and is undetectable.
Gertrude_D@reddit
They don't remotely taste the same.
UraniumRocker@reddit
It doesn’t taste like raw egg
despitethenora@reddit
An egg and cookie dough are not remotely the same thing, tastewise or texturewise.
PikesPique@reddit
I think it's the taste and texture of raw eggs. Raw cookie dough is the best.