what graphics card is best for 4k/1440 resolution

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KillEvilThings@reddit

The only thing that offers "great" FPS at 4k is a 5090.

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viperxQ@reddit

I play 4k with pretty good fps, max settings even. Though i dont get "great" fps on newer demanding games

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LiberDeOpp@reddit

I have a 5080 I use on a 4k oled and it's flawless. I would say the 5090 is prosumer more than typical gaming GPU.

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Ramongsh@reddit

5090 is definitely "prosumer" but so is 4K.

The average gamer has a 4060 on 1080p

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NoAvocado7971@reddit

According to the latest Steam survey, the 3060 is the most common GPU

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Xin946@reddit

I think the key takeaway is that the average gamer is on a 60 class card and not the latest and shiniest.

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stamford_syd@reddit

4060 on 1440p here, runs every game i play over 100fps and when it doesn't, dlss gets it attleast above 70fps with slightly lower than max settings.

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kaleperq@reddit

And why 1080p? Because they still make new expensive 1080p cards that could be 1440p with more vram.

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don-m@reddit

Is a 240hz 4k monitor worth it when you have a 5080? Or do you feel you need a 5090 to make use of that monitor properly.

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Hermesme@reddit

The 80 is a tier below the 90 and its performance will reflect it. If you want 4k at “great” fps the 5090 is your only option. If you want “ok” fps then the 5080 is an alternative.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

What is “ok” like 40 compared to “great” 60?

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Jasond777@reddit

The 5080 can handle 4k fine at 60 fps, you just need to use dlss quality or balanced

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Fredasa@reddit

Depends. Stellar Blade has recently taught me that a well-optimized game allows the 5080 to achieve a flat 60 with everything at max and DLAA on top.

(And also that 16GB is already really damn close to being obsolete.)

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I have the feeling Stellar Blade is a bit of an outlier. With some tweaking around with settings I manage to run it 4k-90fps very high (with dlss max x4) on a 5070. It "only" runs 50~60 fps without dlss though.

Also there is a huge difference between "Full screen" and "Full screen windowed".

It seems that SB claims (VRAM-3) GB of VRAM no matter what, but yeah for a "great" card >=16GB vram.

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Fredasa@reddit

Granted, I'm using the 4K textures—the only setting the game didn't auto-adjust to—but I had to proactively clean up everything on my PC that uses VRAM, including shutting down everything, running Steam in small mode, and restarting dwm.exe and explorer.exe so they'd both refresh at their smallest possible footprints. Even then, the game doesn't cull a damn thing so it eventually overflows, forcing me to exit to menu and resume. It's quite unambiguous when this happens. For one thing, SK lets me know. For another, I get classic VRAM swapping stutters.

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SecurePay1725@reddit

I actually stand corrected. I checked my settings today and saw that I was using very high instead of 4k. Which frees up like 3GB of VRAM. Especially the cutscenes seem really rough.

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Username928351@reddit

"Can handle 4k if you render things at 1253p-1440p" is a bit of an oxymoron, wouldn't you think?

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chy23190@reddit

Not really, if it looks close enough to native anyway.

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Jasond777@reddit

Not necessarily when there are some who think you need a xx90 card or a 4k monitor is worthless.

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FasterThanLights@reddit

Generally in today's age 60 is not considered "great" thats more like 120

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Hermesme@reddit

That really depends on the game. But yea on average the 5090 can perform around 30% better than the 5080 at 4k.

So for an example of the 5090 gives you 90fps which is a great high refresh rate for gaming monitors. The 5080 would give you 60fps which is more of an ok standard tv frame rate.

So yea 60 vs 40 sounds about right

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Dorky_Gaming_Teach@reddit

This is ridiculous. You don't need a 5090 to get great 4k performance. Don't listen to this elitist bullshit.

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Hermesme@reddit

It’s not really a matter of opinion when the benchmarks and numbers back it up. He specifically stated he wants great performance, there’s really only one card that will give him that. The rest will give him good performance.

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Dorky_Gaming_Teach@reddit

He seemingly doesn't know what he wants at the moment. The case in point is that you don't need a 5090 for great performance at 4k.

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Scratigan1@reddit

I can attest to this too, I play at 4k with my 5080 and in most games I am above 60-80fps no issues. Add frame gen onto that and it only makes the experience better.

Sure at raw performance the 5090 is undeniably better, but a car is undeniably better at acceleration than a bike. With the 5090 being twice the price I'd HOPE it was faster.

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StdSam@reddit

I can also attest that this guy is getting GOOD 4k performance but not GREAT 4k performance.

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epihocic@reddit

Agreed. 60fps is bare minimum these days. I'd even potentially call it bordering on DECENT performance, which of course is the next step below GOOD.

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UnderstandingSea4745@reddit

Depends on the game and if you want raytracing.

5080 on ultra settings with RTX can be anywhere from 60 to 100+ depending on the title.

RTX off? 100+ easy

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Hermesme@reddit

Silent hill 2 gets you low 40s in native 4k on a 5080 on ultra. We of course know there are older games that run very well, and that we now have ai upscaling like dlss to make games look 4k even though they aren’t rendering at that native resolution. But for the basis of comparison, we really have to use the latest year old or less AAA releases and native resolutions as a measuring stick or else we would be all over the place and measuring by different standards.

Like imagine someone accurately saying, hey I get 4k at a high fps just fine on my 3090. But it turns out he’s playing GTA4 and other games from pre 2008.

This also applies to resolution, yes if you turn on DLSS it will look and run great. But it’s not rendering at a native 4k resolution. Perfect for playing it, sure. But for a technical analysis and comparison, you should use the native resolution tone accurate

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UnderstandingSea4745@reddit

No.

You can have 4k ultra at 150fps+ depending on the settings.

4k DLSS Quality, DLSS 4 FG Off, ultra setting is 70+ fps in silent hill. That is the second best.

Do you need to play DLSS 4 FG off on ultra settings including raytracing at peak settings? That is 40fps.

So you’re speaking the bullshit and being an elitist.

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Hermesme@reddit

Yea that’s exactly what I said. “Native 4k” that specifically means no DLSS. Thats what native means. So what’s incorrect about it?

DLSS quality renders at 66% of the resolution. 4K DLSS quality means it’s rendering at about 1440p. Which is not 4K native. 4K native is 100% the 3840x2160 4k resolution.

Is that dlss 4k more than enough for the average person? Of course.

I’m a photographer, and if someone reading this knows a bit about photography. It’s almost like an analogy between digital zoom (dlss 4k) and optical zoom (native 4k) Sure you can say the digital zoom will look pretty close to the optical zoom, and will only be apparent if you magnify the image. But you would be a joke if you tried to compare a camera or lens’ performance based on its digital zoom when someone is else is talking about the optical capability of the glass in the lens.

If you want to get technical and compare the technical specifications of graphics cards, use the native resolution and its raw processing power as the basis of comparison. Not its DLSS. Which is why most benchmarks include the native rendering as its first test.

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UnderstandingSea4745@reddit

Depends on the game bro lol

Some brand new unoptimized games on unreal 5 run like shit on the 5090.

Some need DLSS on the 5080.

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Hermesme@reddit

And none of that has anything to do with me saying silent hill 2 gets you low 40s in native 4k on a 5080.

Sure with the help of AI upscaling it can bring that frame rate much higher. But we use native resolution for benchmarks for a reason.

If we were comparing an artists drawing potential you wouldn’t say well yea he can draw that naturally (natively) on pen and paper but I’m just as good because I can use AI to give you the same image. The 5080 gives you good performance on 1440p which can then be used with DLSS to upscale that with AI to a 4k image. But when comparing GPUs and talking about native 4k that’s not the measurement you should be using.

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UnderstandingSea4745@reddit

I guess i find it weird you are obsessing over a brand new poorly optimized game requiring the absolute highest settings instead of considering other games and possible combinations of native 4k settings.

You have options to use dlss or keep native and turn settings down in some games, same with ray tracing. Coming from 1440p i find the 5080 on 4k OLED to be superior.

Maybe go touch some grass

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Hermesme@reddit

People not being able to differentiate between decent, good and great is going to evolve into us having to say ultra to describe performance like a graphical setting isn’t it?

I mean if someone thinks 60fps rendering at on dlss quality which is 60% of 4k so about 1440p is great. How the heck do I describe the performance the guy rendering at 100% native resolution at 80fps if great is already taken lol. Greater?

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Hermesme@reddit

Everyone seems to be acting like we said the 5080 would give him bad performance, but we, including me, actually said it would give him good performance. While the best card will give him the great performance he was asking about. Like you mention, anyone would hope that price tag would mean you were getting much better performance for it, you know like going from good to great. If it was the same great performance as a 5080, why would anyone justify buying it?

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Nexxus88@reddit

He literally says he doesnt mean 60fps

I have a 4090 I'm not getting much above 60 in most new titles with solid graphical chops.

The 5080 is slower than my card.

So unless you are willing to compromise on visual setting...which if you are why are you even gaming at 4k, or using dlss performance mode in pretty much everything...assuming you can even use DLSS..no a 5080 isn't going to get great 4k performance...it will get adequate 4k performance.

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Doomguy0071@reddit

Ok tell us a card that can get above 60 fps in 4k that's is significantly cheaper than the 5090 lol

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kmr12489@reddit

Used 4090

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KillEvilThings@reddit

Oh please explain how this is elitist bullshit.

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Big-Law2316@reddit

my 7900 xtx runs 4k "good enough "

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ansha96@reddit

Thats people with 1440p monitors ..

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altiuscitiusfortius@reddit

Depends on what you mean by okay. I played cyberpunk on a 2060 until last month and I thought it was pretty great. Some slowdown in dogcity. Spent 2000 on a new build including a 5070 and it's better but still great. No slowdown.

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Hermesme@reddit

Right, I’d say that being satisfied and being able to play things without slowdowns is nice and okay. You certainly seem ok and satisfied with your build and performance. Most people would be ok and satisfied just fine with a 5080 too. That doesn’t mean we can’t acknowledge that going up to a 5090 wouldn’t be great in comparison.

But using the same “great” to describe the performance of everything from a 2060 to a 5090 and everything in between starts creating a problem I think. Id argue it’s better for everyone if we reserve “best/great” for the actual top tier performers. Good for a step down, acceptable a step down further, where neither of those 3 means it’s bad.

In your case and example you mentioned the 2060 was alright with just some slowdowns. Which is probably “acceptable” and not a bad experience.

Your new 5070 is better than your 2060 as you describe it. You no longer have the slowdown everything is ok now, and you now enjoy a “good” gaming experience.

And in comparison, anyone who doesn’t have a 5090 including you and me would probably agree that it would be even better and it would be “great” compared to what we currently have since no other card performs better than it does. It’s the currently “best” option available. It’s also probably not necessary for the vast majority of gamers we would all be “ok” with something less performant and cheaper.

Whereas if I just used “great” to describe all 3, well that would create confusion

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amchaudhry@reddit

I get great fps on my $600 9070XT

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Illustrious_Entry413@reddit

Tbh, I would go 4090 over 5080

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tehfoshi@reddit

I'd say the 5070ti is your best option if you want to spend a little money now and upgrade maybe in a year or two with better performance. 5070ti is like 15% less performance compared to the 5080 but also much much cheaper. They are also going to announce the 5080ti soon, so maybe just get 5070ti 16gb for like ~800 now, then upgrade to the 24gb 5080ti when its out.

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sydraptor@reddit

As someone who is currently refusing to upgrade my PSU from my 750w one, the 5070ti is doing pretty good in my living room set up that has a 4k tv. I will admit to being happy with 60 fps myself because a) my TV is older and has a 60hz refresh rate but also b) I mainly play single player games. Also DLSS at 4k looks good enough that frankly I don't notice the difference at the several feet away my TV is from me.

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sydraptor@reddit

I was going to get a 5080 when it first launched. I wasn't able to and it now costs way too much. I was also going to get a new PSU if I got a 5080 at msrp. I didn't and you still can't so the 5070ti is what I got. Is what it is. I tried for a 9070xt too but couldn't get one.

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Southern_Okra_1090@reddit

A 5070ti while capable of 4k you shouldn’t be comfortably thinking it’s going to give you great experience.

The difference between a 5090 and 5080 is when you turn everything to ultra Including ray tracing, the 5090 is gonna keep you above 100 fps while the 5080 dips below 80. Which is when you start seeing the micro stutters between frames.

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mentive@reddit

5080 is a very capable card at 4k, runs cool, etc. You'll have to optimize your settings for decent frame rates.

5090 is a BEAST. It also dumps a ridiculous amount of heat into your room, and is absurdly expensive.

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zugmender@reddit

You say ot runs cool and disregard the fact it consumes a stupid amount of watts lol

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mentive@reddit

Uhhh, my 5080 never went above 61C. I didn't monitor wattage.

But yes, without an undervolt, my 5090 goes up to 70+ when I purposefully push it to its max. With a very basic undervolt it isnt going over 500w, but yea it was hitting 600. And yes, it dumps crazy amounts of heat.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

alright, will the 5080 pair well with a amd ryzen 7 9800x3d cpu?

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mentive@reddit

Bruh, thats like the top gaming CPU in existence.

I'm running a 14700k with a 5090... That CPU is more than enough 🤣

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Barefoot_Mtn_Boy@reddit

And what is (are?) your experiences with your system?

I am thinking about building an Intel Ultra 9 285K with 128gb CUDIMM memory and a 5090.

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mentive@reddit

I haven't researched CUDIMM except for like 6 months ago, didn't even know it was out. But I know that DDR5 over 32GB on 14th gen, memory controllers cant handle it and have to clock the memory lower. I run 6800 64GB, but I have to clock it at 6400 for a full memtest86 run. I might have even gone down to 6200 at some point. Even 64GB is overkill for most stuff, but Im a tech, programmer, and am always doing something different. So I went a bit bigger.

The real question is, what is your system for? If gaming is the focus, Intel and that much memory is a bad idea.

If its for productivity primarily, and very specific applications, that might be a good choice, but I cant comment much on that aspect. Still though, unless there is a reason you need 128GB RAM, or unless my knowledge / experience doesnt apply to recent hardware updates, its likely hurts performance and is an amount you likely wont ever need.

And if gaming is a secondary focus and you have legit reasons for that setup, then it might make sense.

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Barefoot_Mtn_Boy@reddit

Well, CUDIMM memory takes the Ultra 9 285K into 9 9950X3D territory in a lot of games, but if you need the best productivity speeds you can get, it's the one before going Xeon 6. You are correct about regular DDR-5 memory controller not able to handle it, but the new CUDIMMs have the controllers that let's that same speed head up to over 9000MT/s and negates that 6400 limits.

I would be able to game at close to (and in some games even better) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D speeds. But my productivity software? You have to go Intel Xeon 6 or ThreadRipper to beat it.

Most people don't know about the CUDIMMs because they're only available for the Intel Core Ultra 200 CPU's and matching motherboards. (Can't use 'em on AMD at all) This means Intel Ultra's with regular DDR-5 memory can't beat the gaming prowess of AMD, especially with games that are tweaked for them.

Of course, CUDIMM's cost a lot more than regular DDR-5, but if you want to be able to have speeds of (really soon) over 10kMT/s, Ryzen will have to tool up to provide it! So, yes, AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X3D is gaming king, but, except for the added expense, Intel is king when you need both games and productivity.

Here's a video from Jayztwocents testing the CUDIMM memory installed in a Falcon Northwest with games and productivity when they were first hitting the streets! Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/Wchwh-quceA?si=fPdUBrLYN6MhaxS9

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mentive@reddit

Thats cool, and the research i did some time back looked promising. I'll look into it... I was actually very intrigued at the time and my first thought was "well fuck, I just recently built..." lol

But uhh, why were you asking about my setup, and thoughts on it? I'm honestly at a loss for words here considering you know very well what you're talking about, and know what you want.

I'll be waiting for when Intel can actually sweep the floor again, and then ill upgrade. Or if my 14700k burns out like all the haters say it will, I might just switch to AMD. Or ill just find a deal on another 14th gen processor 🤣

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Barefoot_Mtn_Boy@reddit

I asked because I am genuinely interested. With that setup, do you experience any bottlenecks? Did you ever wish you'd went with a 14900K or KS? I was originally thinking of going with a i9-14900KS and the 5090, but Intel's lack of controlling their motherboard partners (which are the same ones as AMD, of course) and the resulting overvolting (over-watting?) The CPUs and BOTH pointing the fingers 👉 at the other as to blame, (I personally am in the camp that the motherboard manufacturers were the most at fault because they KNEW Intel's limits were published, yet they STILL turned the limits off and fried all those CPUs) well, I changed my mind and decided to wait. Of course, Intel and partners solved the issues with updates, so your purchase isn't going to have the melting problem as long as you updated your motherboard and the microcode for the CPU. But now, with this new direction for memory, especially how it's lining up to the JEDEC-5 standards (something I find most builders have never studied) where the future of DDR-5 and next are taking on computing IN RAM before it gets to the CPU, the capability of running simultaneously two sets or more of instructions well, my thoughts on future upcoming?

My take on the Core Ultra and CUDIMMs is future-proofing. I see the future offerings from Intel building on this customer solution. I sense that regular DDR will be used only for budget systems in the next couple of years, and AMD will have to adapt to compete with this level as offered speeds continue to grow, probably soon around 12,000MT/s.

I asked because, as far as $ is concerned, I ponder whether or not I should step back to the i9-14900KS and wait to see if I'm right and possibly a new crop of bigwigs at Intel will get some huevos and as you said, sweep the floors!

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mentive@reddit

Nah, I dont regret getting an i7 over an i9. 14th gen, i7 was the only real upgrade over 13th.

I do sometimes regret not going AMD, but honestly this thing has handled everything I've thrown at it just fine.

As for the 5090 with the 14700k, I've been able to smoothly max out Indiana Jones. The only setting (with everything maxed) that tanked performance was putting DLSS on DLAA. I was actually shocked at how hot the CPU gets in that game, but it kept up.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

lolll

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JZMoose@reddit

5080 is a beast. Mine did an easy 20% over lock out of the box, it’s doing about 90% performance of a 4090. It’s amazing

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Captcha_Imagination@reddit

5080 is the best value of this generation imo. Not unusual, the second best is usually the best because the premium on the best.

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Nexxus88@reddit

Your not getting much above 60fps on a 5080, I'm on a 4090 and I can comfortably maintain 60 sometimes going into 80ish on newer good looking games.

And this is faster then a 5080

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jamsta212@reddit

My 5080 surpasses that performance.

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Nexxus88@reddit

Lol no it doesnt.

You quite literally cannot say that because my statement is deliberately vague because I cannot account for every game and every setting available. On some titles I get well over 100 at 4k,max settings. On others it hovers around 80 or 90

Your card is weaker than a 4090.

Whatever game you run on equal settings my fps WILL be higher unless you are using mfg. End of discussion.

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jamsta212@reddit

Do you have a 5080?

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Nexxus88@reddit

I don't need a 5080 to look at multiple independent tests that back up everything ok saying. Just stop lol

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jamsta212@reddit

Then you can’t possibly know.

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mantrain42@reddit

No, never have knowledge been available without personal experience in all of human history.

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nith_wct@reddit

I'd argue the 5070 Ti is better value, but it's just barely not enough for OP.

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Nexxus88@reddit

Your not getting much above 60fps on a 5080, I'm on a 4090 and I can comfortably maintain 60 sometimes going into 80ish on newer good looking games.

And this is faster then a 5080

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SJSquishmeister@reddit

I have a 5080 and a 5090 that I use everyday at 5k.

A 5080 more than enough.

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sydraptor@reddit

If you're talking 4k native no DLSS then sadly no.

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sami2204@reddit

Lies. I've been playing 4k (2160p) on cards from a 1080ti, a 6600, a 6600xt, a 6700xt and a 7800xt. All fine.

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The_Machine80@reddit

Op said "best" only answer is 5090. And no 6600 is goin to be great at 4k.

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sami2204@reddit

Yes but you can still get a "great" experience at 2160p on many other cards. My Rx 6600xt was 4+ years ago now and it ran games back then fine at 2160p. Nowadays my 7800xt does what I'd call a "great" job as the commenter above said no other card except the 5090 can. Trash comment

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Hermesme@reddit

As I said in another comment, the issue seems to revolve around the wording. Do you genuinely have an issue with using the top performing card as the baseline for the word great? How would you describe its performance compared to others?im genuinely curious. A 30-60% margin of better performance is significant. If I was explaining it to someone I couldn’t use great for both the 5080 and 5090 as that wouldn’t accurately portray the performance increase the person would be getting for spending much more money.

Should I say the 5080 is great but the 5090 will give you extreme/ultra performance?

Should it be 5080 is great but 5090 is greater? While that works it seems kind of childish?

Maybe max performance is a good alternative?

It seems cumbersome when we have words for this. “The absolute best performing card will give you great performance, as any higher performance is currently unachievable until the next gen. and the 5080 will give you good performance in comparison to it.”

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sami2204@reddit

To keep it simple, here's what I normally say: 5090 is the best but value for money is poor 5080/7800 or 7900 series are great 2160p cards and will give good value for money. Sure if someone's budget is $4000USD then get the 5090 but most people who want a 2160p build are like me with a $1200-1800 budget.

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Hermesme@reddit

Wouldn’t it be even simpler to say the best is great. Which is the 5090. Can’t go any higher. Can’t perform better. The best is the best and it’s great.

A tier down like the 5080/5070 is good. Good means good it doesn’t mean bad. I agree most people would be perfectly ok with one of those cards. They would be like hey this is “good” I’m having a good experience. And I saved money which is always good.

And a tier further down would be acceptable. Like well I’m getting alright fps, but it’s ok. I get a couple of slowdowns but that’s ok I can accept it for the price I paid.

No need for nuance, no need for subtlety. We just need people to accept that, good doesn’t mean bad. But great is just a bit better. It’s like sports. Most pro players are ok and acceptable, then you have a small bunch of good players. But there’s always one (sometimes 2) great players at once. You know, the guy winning the mvp award, the ballon d’or etc. the guy you say well yea he was great this year, he’s the best. Everyone else is good in comparison.

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sami2204@reddit

5090 is too expensive for what it is. It's not a great card. You can say the same with when the 2080ti came out, because the 1080ti was so good, no one called the 2080ti an amazing card

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Hermesme@reddit

It’s a great card, but it’s expensive. The price doesn’t remove how great it performs.

Are there better values for money and good budget options? Of course. But we’re talking about performance, not price or value. And the 5090 is great in performance category.

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sami2204@reddit

The guy plays Fortnite, cyberpunk & siege. You don't need a 5090 for that and his budget would preferably be $2000. You really don't need a 5090.

Yes 5090 performs the best but it's a card no one should be buying at its price. The only reason Nvidia makes a 90 series nowadays is because people overspec their PC's and spend way too much. There only ever used to be an 80ti as a top spec.

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Hermesme@reddit

I’m not trying to set his budget or make decisions for him. I’m sure he’s old enough to make his own decisions based on the information he’s given.

He gave us a budget range of 2000-4000 and he asked for great performance. I’m only giving him an objective answer based on those parameters. Like I said and I’ve repeated, there are better values for his money and he would be more than ok with a 5080 or other less pricier options. But within that price range and for “best” and “great” in regards to performance. It’s the 5090.

If he wants to spend 4000 on a pc because that’s his budget then all the power to him. I’m not going to sit here and try to convince him to spend less cause he doesn’t need it. I’m just going to be objective and say the 5090 fits in his budget and gives him the performance he specifically asked for.

The difference is instead of just answering his question, you are trying to decide with his own money and budget, and for some reason arguing on why he should “preferably” only spend 2,000 lol. We’re not his mom. Just answer his question give him the info he’s looking for.

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sami2204@reddit

I'm saying 2,000 because the price to performance at 4,000 is terrible. 5090 is terrible price to performance

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Ryan32501@reddit

Lol 30 fps may be "fine" for you. Definitely not for me. I have 1440p 170hz monitor and it works great with 5700x3d and 7800XT. Not so well for 4k

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sami2204@reddit

For me 60fps 1% minimums in non eSports titles is plenty. All of my games I have run anywhere from 60-120fps and my eSports titles like counter strike get around 200. Thus is without raytracing of course but the difference between 1440p and 2160p is maybe 25% less FPS than what you get right now.

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Ryan32501@reddit

Bro what. From 1440p to 4k FPS gets cut in half. 50% not 25%

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sami2204@reddit

I'm talking about CPU bound games dummy.

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CaptainCookers@reddit

Native?? Absolutely not, stable 60 with high graphics?? Definitely not

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sami2204@reddit

Agreed with the old cards. The 6700xt and higher can do stable 60, my 7800xt gets anywhere from 60-120 on most games. I've been playing for years at 2160p, I only upgraded from 6700zt to 7800xt as there were a couple games that I play that were still not stuttering but falling below the 60fps mark.

In my opinion, graphics is more important than above 60fps in games that aren't eSports so that's why I like the higher Res, and in games like eSports titles, they are very CPU bound so I still get 200+FPS on counter strike

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mbsza84@reddit

Depending on the game Rx 6700xt 4K TV . Star Wars Jedi Fallen order high setting 60 FPS capped . in some area drops to 54 FPS , good experience . If u spoke about heavy newer games definitely u need upscaler or a powerful GPU

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Mels_101@reddit

I understand what you're saying, I've been at 4k since SLI 980tis, but you're not getting modern games to run a native 4k without serious modern hardware.

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sami2204@reddit

I am, sure not over 200fps but for a "great" experience which is to me, a smooth, fully playable no stuttering experience (normally 60+FPS) with 1% lows no lower than 60, I am able to do it perfectly on my Rx 7800xt. I've been playing this resolution for years on many games and normally get 60-120fps on most games. 200+ on eSports titles. No raytracing ofc

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agenttank@reddit

but maybe not Cyberpunk...

i dont like this "noooo, that's a 1440p card and you CAN NOT PLAY 4k on that!!"

its always a combination of the games you play, the gpu you have, the amount of video ram you have, the amount of FPS you want to have, the graphical settings you choose

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sami2204@reddit

Agreed with the older cards yes. But assuming no raytracing my 7800xt can offer a great fully playable 2160p experience on cyberpunk

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the_lamou@reddit

Well, there's also the RTX PRO 6000.

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cruuks@reddit

Still can't run cyberpunk native res in 4k with ray tracing (only benchmark on YouTube ran with no ray tracing)

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MingleLinx@reddit

I use it for CoolMath games

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the_lamou@reddit

Mine gets 76,000 FPS in Pong.

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Oisyr@reddit

Bro 96gb of vram is crazy

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the_lamou@reddit

Some people say it's too crazy. I say it's not too crazy enough!

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Super_Preference_733@reddit

True but that card is designed for creative workflows. It will be way over kill for playing games. I have an RTX A4000 and I would kill for that card.

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jonnydiamonds360@reddit

9070 and the 9070xt are beasts

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XXXDEGRAVEMEXXX@reddit

4070 is just fine for 4k..

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ForLackOf92@reddit

Depends on what you're using the 4K monitor for.

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KarambwanaKodou@reddit

Tentacl- gets sucker punched

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ltearth@reddit

4k videos of research

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Mammoth_Eggplant5392@reddit

Lol

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Greatli@reddit

Anatomy lessons.

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SantasWarmLap@reddit

Minecraft.

Next?

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LOSTandCONFUSEDinMAY@reddit

Shaders and DH?

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aGsCSGO@reddit

Great native performance maybe. If you're willing to use DLSS/FG you can easily use a 5080/4090 in 4K to reach playable FPS

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Suspicious_Put_3446@reddit

I’m running a 9070 (non xt) and playing Aliens Dark Descent and Anno 1800 all high settings at 4k (no upscaling, no FSR) at 60fps consistently. So I would say for 4k it depends on the game and your targeted frame rate.

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SirThunderDump@reddit

4090’s still good for great 4k FPS as well. Especially for the games OP listed.

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Captcha_Imagination@reddit

I have a 4090 and I get great FPS at 4K. We're talking 110++ on Cyberpunk (ultra) and 300++ on Fortnite (custom settings but looks amazing).

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s7illEd@reddit

You butthurt ppl who bought a 4k monitor with less than a *90series card

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p1zz4p13@reddit

That is an objectively wrong statement.

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extrajuice1456@reddit

7900xtx

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itsmemario39688@reddit

I was worth it not now

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extrajuice1456@reddit

What

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itsmemario39688@reddit

u know

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extrajuice1456@reddit

I don't actually

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Makud04@reddit

With 4000usd might as well get like a 4090 (the 5090s are like 3k on the cheapest end do it's not really an option) it sucks because it will be second hand but as far as I know the 40 series has been out of production for a while, if not just get a 5080, is the best option after those 2, if it's 1440p get an 9070xt and save a shit ton of money and get a good monitor OLED monitor so you can enjoy your new PC (don't worry about burn in, as long as you don't leave your monitor on all night in with the wallpaper you should be fine)

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Your_Card_Declined@reddit

I agree to this, I'm not into 4K gaming at the moment, 1440p is enough for me. I have the (Alienware - AW3423DWF 34" QD-OLED Curved 165hz monitor) & a (XFX - Speedster MERC310 AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX 24GB GDDR6) & (AMD 9800X3D) = this makes the perfect 1440p gaming experience IMO.

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Makud04@reddit

Isn't 34" a bit too big for 1440p?.

I mean I do play mostly at 4k because I have a beautiful oled tv and a surround sound system that makes playing games like expedition 33 a blessing, but with how ass the high end market is you might as well save some money and stay in 1440p

(I have a 5080 and a 9800x3D, runs pretty much anything at 4k and everything at 1440p but I regret the decision every now and then)

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kajsbxixhdn@reddit

What do you regret?

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Makud04@reddit

The 5080, I wrote a long ass comment to someone else who asked, it's a good card but sometimes I feel like I was ripped off a bit because of the price to performance compared to the 9070xt and that bothers me

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DearEstablishment123@reddit

I been thinking of getting 9070 I currently have 7900xt

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Makud04@reddit

Is it worth it? I haven't seen any benchmarks in a while

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Apprehensive_Push589@reddit

You regret buying the 5080 and 9800x3D?

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Makud04@reddit

Mostly the 5080.

I wanted a 90 and was willing to pay the 2k, but with the melting connectors and them being impossible to find I gave up.
I wanted an MSI card, mostly the supreme liquid because I do like the design, but it was also impossible to find. And then MSI marked up all of their cards to like 1600$ and above and if I wasn't getting 4090 performance I wasn't going to pay 4090 prices (although I payed closed enough and that is what bothers me)
I ended up with a gigabyte one and it's kinda ugly, it's not really an issue because I don't see it (my PC is on the floor)

The 9800x3D I can't complain, the only issue is that I was not able to check the temps with just MSI afterburner like I was able to do with my laptop so that bothered me for a little while, is no biggie but that's the only complain I can give it,

If I had gotten the 5080 at like 1100 I would have no complain, but at 1399 it was a bit tougher to swallow. I still like it though, it gives me like 3 times the performance of my laptop at 1440p and runs everything at 4k, even U5 titles (that I have played), is a good card just not exactly what I wanted

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droidxl@reddit

Hate to be blunt but if $300 over however many years you’re using the 5080 for is a tough pill to swallow you couldn’t really afford the card in the first place.

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Royal_Aardvark_6406@reddit

Isn't 34" a bit too big for 1440p?.

It's ultra wide. 3440x1440.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

I have been eyeing the 5080 and the 4090 but havent figured out how much different either are. Thanks to the stuff rn the 5090 and the 4090 are so crazy expensive. I have checked ebay for a 4090 and its still above 2400. What should i do?

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alextheawsm@reddit

Get a 5090 founders for $1999 during a best buy drop

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Makud04@reddit

The 4090 is like 20% better in raster than the 5080, and with overclock the gap is just around a 10%, you can just, at above 2k the 4090 is not worth it in my opinion (we are talking about 2 years old USED card, I thought they were around 2k)

The 5080 has MFG but unless you have like a 1440p 360hz display it Is kinda useless because dlss makes it run most games good enough even at 4k.

Also the 5080 uses less electricity, which means less heat, if your room is hot get the 5080, that MF makes my room hot as hell so I can't imagine how hot a 4090 would be with the extra power

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TheOutrageousTaric@reddit

4090 is a workstation card by now. People need the vram and theres only 3090, 4090 or 5090 as option realistically. Hence the high prices. So dont bother with it, you arent getting a good deal most likely.

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Dorky_Gaming_Teach@reddit

You can also consider waiting for the 5080 super.

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Makud04@reddit

I mean yeah, but the main issue of the 5080 isn't really the vram, is just weaker than a 4090 and more VRAM is not going to make it faster, plus they will make it like 2k

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Dorky_Gaming_Teach@reddit

DLSS 4 more than makes up for it. In addition, a used 4090 almost costs as much as the newer discounted 5090's. The 5090's will continue to drop in price, so if you are willing to wait a bit, it will fall into your budget. However, you can get a 9800x3D and a 5080 between $2200-3k, easily.

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Makud04@reddit

Both have dlss4 so it is not an advantage of the 50 series, and unless you have an insanely high refresh rate monitor (240, or more) then MFG is kind of meh in MY opinion.

And my bad, I didn't check the prices of the 4090s before commenting, I thought they were like 2k, not 2300 if not more. And with 5090s on the low end being like 3k then the 4090 is in an awkward spot.

And damn, I hope the 5090 gets near MSRP at some point but I don't think they will, maybe some models will get to like 2700 at some point but thats still more than the Asus astral when they came out which kind of sucks

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Makud04@reddit

The cheapest 5080 (PNY) is like 1300usd, if 4090s are around 2k is not worth the extra cash if you are just going to use it for gaming (or mostly), I really don't think that the 5080 is worth more than 1500 USD ( I really don't think it is worth more than 1200, but that doesn't exist so what can we do) if you stay under that get an 80, if you want to go above 1500 do yourself a favor and get a 4090

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CombinationOk6833@reddit

Best bet? Wait until the fall for Black Friday/cyber Monday but even then it won’t knock off too much. You can try financing maybe through Best Buy? They have a really good credit card that offers 0% interest within the first year. I’ve been considering getting it for an OLED.

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kyle240sx@reddit

5080 minimum

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GrimmPerfected@reddit

that’s a bummer… i just got my first ever pc and it’s a 5070Ti

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Various-Mongoose-123@reddit

I too made a build with the 5070 Ti, waiting parts to arrive. Congrats for your PC, hope you enjoy it!

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GrimmPerfected@reddit

so far k really do. the only thing that bums me out a little is the whole physx situation. i have only ever played the arkham games on console and was so envious of the phsyx on pc so i was really looking forward to it. it hurt a little when i booted it up and found it was no longer supported

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AusSpurs7@reddit

5070 ti is cut from the same cloth as 5080.

5070 ti is great and good enough for 4K.

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RyuIzanagi@reddit

I have 5070ti and it handles 4k well.

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alc4pwned@reddit

5070 ti is great and good enough for 4K.

Depending on your standards and the games you play. If you're looking to play cyberpunk with raytracing at really smooth framerates then even a 5090 can't really do that at 4k or maybe barely can.

I feel like 1440p is a better resolution for the 5070ti personally.

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XXXDEGRAVEMEXXX@reddit

yes it can lol.. i use a 4070 and i get 140 plus frames.. max settings. on blackmyth wukong and cyber punk..

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alc4pwned@reddit

The only way you're doing that is with frame gen.

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GrimmPerfected@reddit

that’s what i’ve been doing so far. the couple of games i tried have been 1440p with mostly max settings. except for doom tda… ive been playin that with that frame gen on and its pretty awesome

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robertfrostenioyer@reddit

Got a 5070ti build this month and I’m loving it. I think in 3-4 years 4k will be much more affordable.

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philharrison204@reddit

Don't be bummed. Its a very good card!!!

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laespadaqueguarda@reddit

Well it’s at least 50% more expensive for 15% more performance so 5070ti is the most logical choice.

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tilthenmywindowsache@reddit

For 1440p a 9070xt or 7900xtx is definitely good enough.

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HarboeDude@reddit

Im thinking about buying 1440p monitors. I've got a 7800 xt, do you reckon it can handle it properly?

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PhoenixShade01@reddit

I have a 7800xt and I've played cyberpunk at ultra no upscaling and it gives me around 70-90 fps. I play most games at max or near max settings and I've never felt the need to use fsr. I mentioned cyberpunk because that's the most gpu intensive game I've played lately.

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Name213whatever@reddit

I have a 7800xt at 1440p. It works great.

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ChocoJesus@reddit

Tbh I’m not sure if I’m not gaming properly or what because of how people are talking about better cards but the 7800 has no problem with it IMO

I normally game at 1440p with a 7800 xt and 4k on occasion for tv gaming. Plays well imo at 1440p, and by that I mean I was hoping cyberpunk would run at 120 fps but I get like 100-110 depending on what’s going on (most games have settings maxed except ray tracing, frame gen and dyamic res off.) 4k seems to cut my fps in about half, so I might have to turn one or two settings down at 4k to maintain 60 fps -

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amchaudhry@reddit

Yeah I don’t know what these folks are talking about. I’m getting 100+ fps on 4K for a bunch of games on my 9070XT

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Additional_Toe_8135@reddit

Do you stay around 60fps mostly or can you push 100+?

I’m trying to decide on a new build and am wanting to upgrade to 1440p, ideally 144hz but I’m at 1080p 60hz now so anything is an upgrade. I just am not sure which card to buy lol

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tilthenmywindowsache@reddit

Entirely game dependent but most titles I'm at 100+ unless raytracing is involved.

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waffels@reddit

OP didn’t say “which graphics card is definitely good enough”, he said “best”

The one and only comment should have been “5090” and the thread be closed.

The “best” questions are so tiresome.

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wirmyworm@reddit

You can do 4k gaming with a 7900xt. You just need to upscale at quality mode

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Makud04@reddit

If he wants to stay at 1440p he should just get a 9070 and save the money and use it for something else, if he wants to go 4k then 5080 would be the minimum ( he has a high budget so there is no point in using last gen hardware unless it is a 4090)

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Framed-Photo@reddit

The 15% or so performance the 5080 has over cards like the 9070XT and the 5070ti is not going to change your experience drastically, and is most certainly not worth the price it's asking at most major retailers right now.

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droidxl@reddit

That extra 15% can mean a lot especially if you PT + MFG.

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adofthekirk@reddit

Naa 5070ti is enough

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Ive been looking at that

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NwLoyalist@reddit

Definitely buy a 9070xt over a 7900xt, and Id even say kver a 7900xtx. It has much better RT (if you care) and also has FSR4 support.

The only reason Id consider 7000 series over the 9000 series is purely the fact you are considering playing at 4k. 16 of vram is great for 1440p, but could be pushed by 4k, especially in the future. The 7900xt comes with 20g of vram which would be better long term.

Still, you would be better off going with the 9070xt, and selling it in a few years if 16g ends up not being enough for 4k.

AMD is also rumored to be launching a gpu teir above the 9070xt, which will also have more vram. Might be worth considering, but it will have a worse fps/$. Personally, I wouldn't even consider Nvidia this generation. Their price is just so high in relation to the performance of the AMD 9000 series. Also, AMD has really caught up with their RT and upscaling, which used to be the main selling point for paying the Nvidia tax.

With that said, if you want the best available and dont care about fps/$, then 5090 is the obvious option.

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CoinSnake@reddit

What to upgrade to evga 3090ti

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6gunsammy@reddit

The best graphics card right now is the 5090. If you choose anything else its because you are sacrificing performance for money or value.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

I see, i found the 5090 kinda expensive especially when i tried to build a pc. I put in a amd ryzen 9800x3d motherboard, 5090 and the extras and it came out to be about 5000. Is the 5080 really diffident or should i opt for a 4090?

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yobarisushcatel@reddit

I wouldn’t get any xx90 card, you won’t miss the 20 extra frames because your PC is 50% louder

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TheTr0llXBL@reddit

Underrated comment lol

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krunchytacos@reddit

At 4k ithe 5090 is 30% to 70% more performant. Less at lower resolutions.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Oh that’s way more then i thought… im gonna be on the look for a 5090 then yikes

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Barefoot_Mtn_Boy@reddit

BestBuy has a 5070ti 16gb for $900 right now. it's a PNY They also have a Gigabyte 5080 OC 16gb in white for %1580⁰⁰

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k1t3k1t369420@reddit

Otherwise if the 5090 doesn’t fit your budget the 4090 is still significantly faster than the 5080, although it’s a last gen part

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Makud04@reddit

It's more of an 40% in average, I have never seen a 70% difference in any of the benchmarks but yes there is a lot of difference, the issue is that they are at least twice the price of a 5080 which are like twice the price of a 9070xt so when it comes to performance value it's kinda awful.

(And something that no one talks about, THE HEAT, with summer the rooms get hot as hell even in a 5080 (350tdp vs 570tdp I think) even with the AC on you are going to sweat a lot with a 5090 (your also going to be happy as hell, just drenched in sweat)

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brendamn@reddit

You can do it for 4000 if you wait for a deal or open box on the GPU and cheap out on everything else

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123_alex@reddit

Is the 5080 really diffident

Did you check some benchmarks?

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Dorky_Gaming_Teach@reddit

Again, bullshit for 4k performance. Yes, 5090 is the BEST, but you do not need it to game at 4K. The 5080 is fine. Consider waiting for the 5080 super, though.

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Mels_101@reddit

This is the answer. Best gpu is the 5090. Value is up to you.

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SuspiciousDelay7153@reddit

5070ti

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HatchingCougar@reddit

For NVIDIA’s lineup & good gaming 4K

Budget(ish): 5070 Ti. Will be perfectly fine for almost all 4K titles & Option to OC to 99% of a 5080.

The solid choice but pricey: 5080 (but if they Do come out with a higher VRAM version, you’ll be crying - considering how much the current 5080 costs & how much better it would be).

And of course the best & you have a heck of a lot of disposable income (or do the supremely dumb thing and put it on a credit card): 5090

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Bluejoc@reddit

I have a 4070ti super and 4K monitor. For single player games, I get 90+fps with settings on medium usually. For multiplayer I usually still get 100+ depending on the game at high settings.

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Technical_Jicama3143@reddit

5090 obviously...

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atomagevampire308@reddit

Did you bother doing like just a few minutes of googling and research? I mean, computer components and gaming are ubiquitously discussed and analyzed online. Learn to DIY, and ask more thoughtful questions!

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Other than that thanks for the thoughtful comment, have a good day.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

maybe be nicer!

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BrotherO4Him@reddit

RTX 5090. anything else is just gonna be obsolete sooner.

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_death_scout_@reddit

I use a 4080 super and its great. I run cyberpunk with 4k mods and renodx for better hdr on my oled. Its pretty fucking good. Its the only game i really need dlss for but i mean i cant tell a difference unless u stare at street lights lol.

That being said i got mine for 1.1k and now theyre alot so idk for youre situation Amd might be the move if u couldnt care bout path tracing and want cheap 4k gpu.

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jjamess-@reddit

Famous case of op doesn’t know what he wants. 5070ti will do just fine.

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haloelitefan@reddit

get the 5080 don’t think about it too much, wait a lil bit though until the 5080 super comes out, get that and you’ll be set for a long long time

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Away_Professional793@reddit

the 9070xt or 5070 ti should give u playable fps

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Donkeymoo7@reddit

40/50 series 70+ will do 4k with dlss or 1440p higher fps and I don't know a huge amount for current amd cards but pretty sure their new 9070 and 9070 xt are in a similar boat great for 4k and 1440p. Will also give amd credit with their new cards fsr4 is a very good upscaler so I can actually recommend amd now.

(Seriously we live in an era where all game spec sheets are "with upscaling on" people need to respect upscaling quality of a card in their worth)

But if you are saying the budget is 2000-4000 I assume usd because you didn't make clear the question is a waste of time just buy a 5090 and be done with it lol. Unless you have zero patient and are going to get scalped the 5080 will never be worth buying if you can get the 5090. The difference in performance does not justify the difference in cost. any card that is not 90 class has been getting done a bit dirty by nivida for the past 2 gens. Also again... Vram. I am not on the bandwagon of 16gb should not be enough for 4k gaming in 2025 but I do know how awful most modern game developers are and that zero optimisation goes into games these days because they just think "oh put dlss and frame gen to hit fps targets ship it!" so having that increase in vram that the 5090 has makes you safe from awful game developers which has invaluable lol

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Sacurayu@reddit

4080 Super, 4090, 5080 or 5090 and by the leaks the 5080 Super will be good

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XXXDEGRAVEMEXXX@reddit

brother a 4070 and up will do you just fine lol

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mau557@reddit

I would say the best card for the better 4K experience is Master Card, other may argue Visa or American Express.

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Naturalhighz@reddit

you could've written this into google and gotten your answer really

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Anderson9520822@reddit

The simple truth is to run 4k smoothly above 60fps on max settings you need to spend an arm and a leg and it still might not be enough. 1440p is the true goat of gaming. If you can run it smoothly on max 1440p you can probably still enjoy 4k on certain games. That being said, obviously the 5090 is the best card if money is no concern. Next is the 4090 but they’re also very expensive. You can over lock a 5080 to basically be the same as a 4090. The very best is the astral model 5080 and if you’re lucky you can snag them for around $1,350-$1,600 on eBay. Or you can get the ASUS TUF for $1,250-1,350.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

is the pny model really different? i see the asus 5080 and the astral go around 1600-1700 on most sites. the pny 5080 goes for around 1375

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Anderson9520822@reddit

They’re all basically going to give the same performance within 1-2% of each other. With slight differences that you can check into. You’re just paying more bc it’s ASUS. Heard nothing but good things about the PNY 5080.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

i read a review about how the pny is cheap like plastic wise, will that be a problem?

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Anderson9520822@reddit

Strictly feel and aesthetic from what I’ve read. It looks a little cheaper compared to metal but it won’t affect performance.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

for reference this is the pny 5080 im talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdX6IqqeuAc

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Chart_Life@reddit

My 4070 is able to run every modern game at max setting (just not path tracing in any game) at 1440p ultrawide, and makes 60+fps on my 4k TV. Just to say the equivalent to that or better will be good for you

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SomeNectarine7976@reddit

I mean, whatever gives you a good experience. Even some old Rx 580 ($60-70 GPU) could get the job done in everything but cyberpunk, so I'd say your best value would be to get something like a 6700-6750xt (used) and play cyberpunk with reasonable expectations, you'll be surprised how much you can save with reasonable expectations and a slightly older, used GPU.

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FragrantContest7811@reddit

I have a 4070s and it does the job at 4k for me at least.

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Durz0Blint123@reddit

This might not be a popular opinion, but I don't think nvidia should be rewarded with sales. Between their pricing structure, lack of vram in mid range cards (and yes, I know that AMD is doing this too but I feel like they are just following suite), but worst is the decision to use those new 12v power cables that are melting. I say go for AMD. Screw nvidia.

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ImHamuno@reddit

My 4070 does pretty solid on like all games at 1440. I dont game a lot but for example I get around 200FPS in Valorant at max settings and around 80-90 on Helldivers 2 on max settings

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ioiplaytations2@reddit

5070 ti for budget 4k 5080 good 5090 best, but expensive af

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Hour-Ticket-2596@reddit

6070

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JustinM0811@reddit

9060 xt is a good budget contender, I think 9070xt is one of the BEST for 1440 cause its got 16 gigs i think u would need even more for 4k

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Awkward-Magician-522@reddit

So AMD's best cards the 7900xtx and 9070xt only get around 60fps in 4k Ultra with NO RAYTRACING, those could work for you I guess, OTHERWISE, you'll want a 5090, 5080, 5070, 4090, 4080, the higher number the better, whichever you can find at a decent price really as most are wayyy over MSRP

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BOBBY8JOE@reddit

I have a 4080s and for siege I get 200-250 fps with frame gen on all max settings

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Gaming_Valley@reddit

I looked at all the commenst saying 5090 but tbf that's a bit overkill

I have a 4080 super in my first build I had it for 6 months now, for 4k it's pretty tbf

In cyberpunk for example if I have everything on max with PT I would look at 15-20 fps ofc no one uses PT without sometype of AI upscaling or even FG so it shoots up to 50-60 fps, ofc if I turn off PT or RT it will go even more

So if you are looking at a 5080 it offers about 10% more performance on that and a good thing on the Blackwell series it offers a good enough headroom to OC your card so you can get more performance out of it

A 5090 would be if you wanna run like the game on native or something with RT or PT which is still demanding but now in single player games I think FG is acceptable if the game is already running good, idk about MFG tho the latency could annoy you if you don't like having a bit more latency, it comes down to personal preferences

But I think a 5080 would be more than enough just make sure to pair it with an R7 9800x3d which actually unlocks the potential of the higher end gou models

I hope that helped

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SirGingerBeard@reddit

4K 4080

2K 3080

Source: I have a 3080 and get 80fps+ daily at 1440p.

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vitoscarletta@reddit

When i got the chance to buy PG27UCDM monitor, i will never in my life go back to 1440p. 4K on some scenarios in games feels almost like 3D for me. The clarity is insane, like watching out of a window. Just ordered the 5080 ventus OC plus, and hope will get some high solid FPS at 4k.

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jmgoizu@reddit

I sell you my 4080 for $800

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Teejaymac@reddit

I have a 4080S and can play almost everything in 4k. I do have to turn down some settings in some more demanding games though.

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123_alex@reddit

my budget is around 2000-4000

I presume rupees. That's like 30 shekel. Cannot recommend anything at that price point.

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Jman155@reddit

At minimum a 5080, perhaps a used 4090?

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X_Gill_X@reddit

RTX 5090

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I_ama_Borat@reddit

I have a rx 9070 xt and play on a 27” 4K 240hz monitor and play cyberpunk at 70+ fps (path tracing off, quality dlss w/ frame gen). I decided to buy the cheaper graphics card instead of the 5090 because I realized what’s the point of shelling out that much money for a card that can’t even run a steady 60fps maxed out on games like wukong or cyberpunk or Alan wake? I’m going to wait and see what the next gen can do.

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ConsistencyWelder@reddit

5090.

Next best is 5080.

Third best is probably 9070 XT.

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Harry_Yudiputa@reddit

4070 ti super for 1440k forced preset k at Ultra Quality

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firey_magican_283@reddit

4k is just over twice as many pixels as 1440P so your dealing with completely different leagues of hardware

1440p you could get away with the likes of a 5060 ti/9060 xt while 4k depending on what frame rate you personally find playable is either only the 4090/5090 or if 60 fps with upscaling is fine the 9070 xt is a good option

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Dorky_Gaming_Teach@reddit

Hell, I easily get 60+ frames at 4k on a 7900XTX. All of the people telling you that you must have a 5090 because it is the absolute BEST, are out of touch. A 5080 will suit you just fine. Do not fall victim to the stupid pressure.

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WanelormW@reddit

This. I also run at 4k, w/ a 43” monitor.. my 7900xtx rarely spins the fans up unless I’m pushing it hard. I don’t use up scaling, and usually push over 70fps in ultra settings. And I paid 850 usd for it.. people are saying to spend 4k on JUST a gpu? Insanity.. it’s more than I paid for my entire setup

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dawgz_96@reddit

It’s absolutely ridiculous people saying 5080 is not a 4k gpu

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alc4pwned@reddit

When you are spending $1k+ on a gpu and pairing it with a really nice monitor, 60 fps isn't really what I'm aiming for personally. I don't think people are out of touch, even a 5090 only averages 108 fps in cyberpunk at 4k. That's before DLSS, but still. 4k is simply still really hard resolution to run.

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descenceX@reddit

Preach!! 4080S is enough to play games at 4k 110-120 fps, unless you’re an absolute buffoon that doesn’t tweak their settings, or exclusively play some of the most demanding games.

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yobarisushcatel@reddit

Don’t listen to everyone saying “get a 4090 or 5090”, those cards are SO bulky and power hungry, a 5080 320w vs 4090 420w + worse AI inferencing including DLSS

absolutely DO use DLSS transformer model when playing any game, the image looks identical

Spend the extra saved money on an OLED screen and quality headphones

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ExplanationStandard4@reddit

5090 no budget , budget 9070xt

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WizardMoose@reddit

Don't go with 4k, there's no such thing as great fps with 4k. Some games, sure, but most games, especially AAA titles, no, it doesn't exist. Don't rely on frame gen with the 50 series from Nvidia, it causes tons of input lag and it doesn't feel or look good.

If you're gaming, just go for 1440p, if that's the case, get the best 16GB card you can afford.

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CharacterReply7617@reddit

rtx 5090 ti

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errorsniper@reddit

Not the 7800xt. I fuckin love this card. But It just cnat cut it at 4k that well.

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Jinx2168@reddit

There a lot of great recommendations here. Before buying anything look up the name of the card on YouTube and watch some benchmarks of games you play to confirm that’s it’s a good fit.

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D-sire9@reddit

If you want the best experience possible 5090 will do

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Civil-Advertising526@reddit

Can afford a 5090? I don’t even see why you asked the question if you don’t know what a 5090 is why tf are you building a pc and looking for the best 4k….

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Doomguy0071@reddit

What is even the point of true 4k gaming? Genuine question

How can you actually tell a difference between super sampled/upscaled I wouldn't even know where to start? I've played games on both for hundreds of hours and see absolutely no difference

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chy23190@reddit

There's little difference now with how good upscaling has become. And with how shit native TAA is in new games, DLSS often is better than native.

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Journeyman63@reddit

I have a 38" 4K monitor that I use primarily for work but also for gaming. So being able to game at 4K is important. I don't have the desktop space to hold a second, lower-res monitor.

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Greatli@reddit

E. Peen.

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YogurtclosetVivid869@reddit

Just look for benchmarks on YouTube like 5080 4K gaming. You’ll get an idea. Some people are dumb here. Don’t listen to them

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dawgz_96@reddit

Yeah people are just being elitist, 5080 is more than enough.

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PeteOutOfMongolia@reddit

5080 with dlss n fg is more than enough tbh

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dawgz_96@reddit

Dont need FG in most games

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KekeBl@reddit

If you use DLSS, plenty of cards are good for 4k. My 4070 ti super has not yet run into a game it can't run well with 4K DLSS, the most demanding ones sometimes force DLSS Performance but that's it.

And yes if you have access to it, you should always use DLSS or DLAA at 4k unless it's a particularly bad implementation of it. Those who disagree have never used DLSS on a 4k monitor, I guarantee it.

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iSath@reddit

9090/9080 has been leaked for amd if you are also interested in amd

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Royal_Aardvark_6406@reddit

Honestly if you got 4k to spend. 3k on a 5090 and 1k on everything else would work. 9600x, b650, 1000w psu.

Could do all that for 4k

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ultraboomkin@reddit

5090 and 9600x lmao what?

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Royal_Aardvark_6406@reddit

Someone gives you 4k and you can only spend it on a pc, what do you build?

Per hardware unboxed:

5090 delivers 137 average fps at 4k native

9600x delivers 147 average fps.

Seems like a solid pairing if you want the best 4k experience.

Maybe if you're an esports guy you go with a 9950x3d and a 5080.

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changen@reddit

I would personally get a 9070xt and use it "for now". If it's enough, then keep it. If you need more performance, get 5080 super refresh that is coming in about 5-6 months or get a 4090/5090.

The 5080 is VERY bad value unless you get it at MSRP. It's 20% more performance than the 9070xt but at double the street price.

The super refresh is suppose to get more performance (by upping the power) so it might be at the same performance level as a 4090.

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Soundrobe@reddit

Also 4k dlss or native ? 4k dlss =5080. Native ? 4090 or 5090.

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Soundrobe@reddit

What do you mean by great fps ? For me my 5080 is perfect for 4k because I'm always above 60 fps in 4k iltra in games I play. I got an OC card.

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Light_Sadow99@reddit

where do you even get this money bro

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roe_jogan______@reddit

i have a 5070 ti and it stays at native 4k on last of us 2 at 80/90 fps and frame gen 240+ im loving it. gow ragnarok at ultra 144+ fps, black myth wukong cinematic 40 fps native and with frame gen 1 140+

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Ecstatic_Ad_3509@reddit

If your truly wanting a great gaming pc to play 4k get the 5090. Tons of cards can game at 4k right now depending on graphics settings but 4k is a beast to run and the 5090 is the only card imo that is going to be able to handle playing 4k at high settings on new games thay come out in the next 3+ years.

That said ive tried gaming at both 4k and 1440p and I honestly don't think the resolution difference is that great. It is visually noticeable but the jump from 1080 to 1440 is such a bigger jump visually than 1440 to 4k.

If your okay gaming at 1440 get the 5080 or even a 5070 ti and you'll be good to go for a long time.

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Antenoralol@reddit

For 4K I'd say the minimum is a 4070 Ti S / 7900 XT for a good level of performance.

Most games I run 4k fine on my 7900 XT.

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massivemember69@reddit

That I can confirm. I run a 6950 XT on high refresh rate ultrawide 1440p and easily get 100+ fps on high or ultra settings in most of my games, without upscaling.

Since the 6950 XT and 7900 XT are roughly equal in performance give or take a few % points, then these cards should do 4K fine. Yes, we know the manufacturer says they can, but always good to know for sure XD

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alessioyk@reddit

1440 what? apples? bananas?

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G00chstain@reddit

5090 this is a dumb post.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

When i said best i ment multiple options, yes the 5090 is the best but its 3000 dollars. Is the 5080 good? Or should i opt for a 4090 for around 2000

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G00chstain@reddit

5090 > 4090 > 5080 $3000 > $2000 > $1400

All of them are kind of a tough value proposition when you’re at the high end in today’s market. I have a 5080 and it is definitely good

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

okay so i looked on facebook marketplace and found a 4090 for 1500 and then found a 5080 for 1300 which is the better option?

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G00chstain@reddit

4090 for 1500 is great.

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SidHatrackack@reddit

Man you’re gonna want at least a 4080 for good FPS at 4K, but I have a 4070Ti and it runs everything maxed 1440 super smooth but the frames cut in half at 4K. Still definitely playable though, everything 60-80 fps.

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juancn@reddit

For 1440 the 5070ti does a great job. 4k is not here yet, not even the 5090 does it well, except on very old games.

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TotemSpiritFox@reddit

I’ve been using a 5070 Ti and mostly play 1440p ultra wide. However, I just got a 77” LG C4 so I could play from the couch.

I just started FF 16 today and I’m getting 115-120 FPS with ultra settings and frame generation and Quality upscaling. Without frame gen it was in the 90-100 range.

Probably not the most intense game to test, but it’s the first one I’ve played on the new TV and it looks great.

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dry-cheese@reddit

I run a 7900xtx for a ultrawide 1440p screen, ive had very little issues with that.

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ch4lwa@reddit

Since you mentioned cp2077, i play 4k with my 5090 and often it gets to 16~18gb vram use. From what i hear 5080 it's a great card but you might hit that vram roof pretty easily with new aaa games

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decofan@reddit

Get the 3060 12gb not the 8gb

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LargeTask7532@reddit

The 5000 series are very good in your price range would be a 5090 or 5080 but really the difference is not gigantic so the 5080 is good if you want to also keep money for other stuff modding!!

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BrysonPotts9@reddit

Obviously there are other 4K graphics cards, but if you want to run the current and future games at max settings and high frame rates and ensure that it’s as future proofed as it can be, then the 5090 is the best choice. Obviously you’ll want to do your own research, but imo, 5090 is the way to go

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p1zz4p13@reddit

I have an rx7900gre that runs games in 4k without an issue. So the 9070xt should be a decent pick. Definitely don’t need 5090 for 4k, I ran horizon forbidden west, cyberpunk, expedition 33, bf2042, spiderman miles morales on 4k high settings with high fps. Save the dollars for a really nice 4k screen if you don’t already have one. Or a pair of epic headphones/monitors, that would give you a great overall experience.

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Beneficial-Art2125@reddit

For 1440p a 9070xt or a 7900xtx. For 4k a 5080/4090/5090.

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mbsza84@reddit

My advice list ur games and check benchmarks on YouTube , I upgraded from RX 6700XT to RTX 3090 lately I discovered that RX 6700 XT can run most of my target games due I’m playing elder single player games 4K / 60 FPS high setting . RTX 3090 got it for 550$ used so I can play some new titles using DLSS

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Achillies2heel@reddit

Best is 5090 2nd is the 4090 3rd is the 5080

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No-Explorer2503@reddit

I have the 5080 it's ok for 4k if you use multi frame gen. I personally am going to upgrade to a 5090 because I'm only getting 4k 50fps on max with the 5080 without framegen. With framegen X4 I can get 240fps on high settings

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Marco0401@reddit

Honestly, 1440p high settings and medium high 4k is 9070xt / 5070 ti. Then just 5080 or 5090 left that is above them... If u want last gen then 4080 super/ 7900xtx i guess but u do miss out on mfg and fsr4 which might be something you want

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RepresentativeWeb164@reddit

16 gb minimum i would say and the 50 series is in a weird state if you look anywhere online

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sunny_xo@reddit

Answers are interesting.

I see OP asked for 'great fps' but didnt specify what.

From my research a 5070ti would give great results at ~60.

However for anything more than that a 5090 would be the best option since the difference between the 5070ti and 5080 are marginal are best, is that right?

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Pleasant-Strike3389@reddit

Got 9070 xt and I am very happy with 60 fps. Dont need more, got far less time anyway so buying a 5090 gives me little true value when time is so limited anyway.

Just donr get used to 120fps and oyu will remain blissfully happy.

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Liesthroughisteeth@reddit

Any of the top tier GPUs will offer great performance. Read this and you'll be all knowing in the GPU market as it sits right now.

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PHIGBILL@reddit

2000-4000 what exactly? A currency would help.

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user007at@reddit

5080 - If you can get a 5090 tho

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uspdd@reddit

Considering how good latest DLSS and FSR4 are (and especially at 4k), it makes no sense to play 4k native.

With the help of upscaling (and FG for "great fps" ) 5080 can work just fine on 4k.

But yea, if you want non-FG 100+ fps, you have to go 5090.

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TheYoungLung@reddit

Lmao with DLSS you would be fine with a 5070 or 5070ti. If you don’t care about high FPS you’re fine

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Ankanemi@reddit

Hello guys, i never owned a pc before and i plan to build a pc around 5090 so can someone please tell meif i get a pc case, motherboard with wifi, psu, cheap cpu for said motherboard till i get a ryzen 7 9800x3d later on in the year, 32gb ram single stick and a 1tb m.2 ssd for around 500$, with everything component costing 20% more for me due to taxes.

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Agreeable-Ad-0111@reddit

9900x + a 5090 under 4k. OS not included, but if you go to the right places you're still under 4k.

https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=9ff06fdb-233b-4b3e-b677-6327c65cba5a

I don't think I missed anything.... But I did go through it quickly so who knows

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Greedy_Bus1888@reddit

minimum 5080/9070xt or used 4080/4080s

Can consider 7900xtx but not recommended due to outdated upscaler that will not get updated.

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Klappmesser@reddit

If you put 9070xt or 4080 might as well get 5070ti pretty much the same performance with mfg

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Greedy_Bus1888@reddit

Ah yes forgot about that, def valid

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Ill_Dragonfruit3513@reddit

I use a 9070. For 4k. With FG. I’m satisfied. Not native, but on quality. Pretty good.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

9070? Like amd?

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Ill_Dragonfruit3513@reddit

Yea

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Ah, i may have to check it out

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Spud_1997@reddit

With your budget you can get the 9070xt, its pretty good for 4k with upscaling (fsr, amd dlss basically).

You said your looking for 2k/4k, honestly it's the perfect sweet spot.

I can play oblivion on high/ultra at 4k for example.

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omaGJ@reddit

4080 OC, 4090, 5080 OC, 5090, 7900 XTX Sapphire Nitro. Those are your options.

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Slydoggen@reddit

Rtx 5090

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Skafiskafnjak0101@reddit

Most expensive ones.

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kiddcull97@reddit

At least a 4080 super imo

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Nayr39@reddit

Get a 5080, use frame gen and DLSS and you'll get quality equaling a 5090. It'll fit your budget and you'll be happy at 4K.

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Significant_Apple904@reddit

Im using 4070ti at 3440x1440. With high/med settings, dlss balanced, and path tracing on, i get about 50-60 fps in cyberpunk. 4k has 68% more pixels than 3440x1440, so if you want similar. 5080 is possibly doable with dlss performance

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DrRobotnik89271@reddit

Wouldn't surprise me if most of the comments are from kids who don't even have the gpu their mentioning! These questions aren't really productive in other aspects of the question. You got a budget? You want the latest? Etc...!

Take it from me that a 4070ti or a 4080 will do the job and some!!! Even a 4060 could handle 1440p but would ideally suit 1080p!

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chimamirenoha@reddit

The market is in a bit of a rough place because the 5080 is only 10-15% better than a 9070xt or a 5070ti and it's like 50% more money right now. In addition, it has the same amount of VRAM. That means if you're running a demanding game at 4k and it doesn't have enough VRAM for a 5070ti, you're going to have the same issues with a 5080.

Honestly, best 2 cards you can get are 4090 or a 5090. If you can stretch the budget to $4500 you can probably find a 5090 for $2500-3000 and you still have $1500 to spend on the rest of your components which is going to be more than enough. You might even be able to make a build at 4k even if you're lucky and find a 5090 in-person somewhere that's nearer MSRP.

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MTPWAZ@reddit

The one you can afford.

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Kspeed290375@reddit

I have a 4080 super running a 4k monitor, really good performance in all games at max settings. Would recommend

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Framed-Photo@reddit

5070ti or 9070xt are imo, the only things worth recommending in the "high" end right now.

Maybe if you can find a 5080 for MSRP it could be worth it, but it's not THAT much faster than those other two cards and usually costs hundreds more.

4090 and 5090 might as well not exist. Your budget is high and even then I don't think it's worth wasting on a 4090 or 5090 right now. You'd be better off building a full PC with a 9800X3D and a 5070TI/9070XT and then putting the rest of the money towards a new monitor or something if you got any left over.

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Gohardgrandpa@reddit

Just go high refresh 1440p and call it a day. You shouldn't have to spend 90 tier class money to get a good experience at 4k.

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ForLackOf92@reddit

7900xtx

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Thank you !

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ForLackOf92@reddit

You can find both for around 1000 or less.

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SeanDonSippinSeanDon@reddit

I’ve got a 4080 and it’s pretty good for 4k in a lot of games but it’s not the best. I don’t care I play on a 32:9 oled so it’s a touch below4k

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Ah i see, ive been eyeing the 5080 for a while but the 5090 while good is way to expensive. I may just get a 5080 but hell idk

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SeanDonSippinSeanDon@reddit

I actually have a 4080s not that it makes any difference. I don’t know where you live but Facebook marketplace has some good finds. May be worth it to drive an hour or two, bring a pc and monitor and test the gpu before buying. I’ve sold Gpus and PCs on fb and I let people test them first. Anyone who says they won’t let you test it is scamming unless it’s brand new which is hard to find.

I had someone find a 4090 for $1k on fb before it’s just rare

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The_Machine80@reddit

You said best so 5090! You need to be alot more specific unless budget isnt a issue.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Oh, well 2000-4000 is my budget. Best yes 5090 but its so expensive. Is the 5080 bad compared? I checked fps and it says its way worse

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The_Machine80@reddit

You said best not best within budget. A 5080 is just fine and frankly a 90 is never worth is unless its for rendering for work. Your eyes will never see a difference between a 5080 and a 5090. Thers a million people still using a 1060 and happy as hell. Don't even bother with this statistical crap.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

Thank you, im sorry for not being specific i have issues with that. I will probably buy a 5080 becuase honestly games these years are optimized like crap. The main reason im asking is because ive been using a pc with a 3060 for about 3 years and was looking for an upgrade

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The_Machine80@reddit

If you've been on a 3060 a 5070 would be a giant jump!

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bklyndrvr@reddit

At this point the only answers are the 5090 and 4090 for decent true 4k. Everything else is a 4k at low to medium settings.

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Famous-Let4854@reddit (OP)

5090 is 3k i built a pc with a amd ryzen 9800x3d and yk all the other good stuff came out to 5000. Im looking for the best solid one. 5080,4090. I checked what it would be on different games im just stuck on what i should buy

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