European Diesel Jeep w/Manual Transmission
Posted by nondescriptadjective@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 8 comments
We were in Italy a week or two ago, and needed something big enough to carry our bike cases. The auto they had that could do this was a Jeep, much to my chagrin. Until I realized it was a manual diesel. It drove so much better than any American Heep I've been in, by leaps and bounds. And all I could think about was a conversation with a friend about how Euro Spec American cars, or any foreign market, just drive better. They're more reliable, the controls are one massive touch screen, and the fuel milage is far and away better. And it just made me have such a deeper loathing for CAFE laws and debt culture in the US. I'm driving a 99 Outback because theres legit nothing on the market here that I want, due to the push for bigger and bigger, more expensive, and over all shittier autos.
/rant
RedlyrsRevenge@reddit
I miss simple vehicles. No frills engine, manual transmission, buttons and knobs. I'll cave on air con and Bluetooth.
That is why I like my D21. Nothing like it on the market now. Midsized trucks are massive and cost as much as full size did 10 years ago.
If I could put a turbo diesel in my D21? *Chef's kiss
nondescriptadjective@reddit (OP)
Its a real bummer that to have a reliable, simple automobile, you have to forgo new safety tech in the US. There were some things about that Jeep I didn't like, such as all its warning tones that you can't tell what are for, but overall it's such a nicer machine.
avoidhugeships@reddit
Forgoing the safety tech is a key component of having a simple reliable car.
Tall-Poem-6808@reddit
Euro cars are not more or less reliable than their US counterpart.
Giant touchscreens and digital buttons rather than physical are as much of a thing here as there.
You liked the car, great, but overall EU cars are not that much different, besides the fact that we still have small city cars.
hi_im_bored13@reddit
You are comparing (likely) a unibody CUV to (likely) a Body-on-frame, live axle front-and-rear off-roader, apples to oranges.
peakdecline@reddit
Have you actually been in a US Jeep that wasn't a Wrangler? Because that's really all it sounds like you were in. Some unibody CUV Jeep.
Go drive a Grand Cherokee and have your mind blown, or something. I don't know... maybe just git a bit of experience before making grand, sweeping claims.
nondescriptadjective@reddit (OP)
Ironically, my partner was forced to drive a Grand Cherokee while her outback was in the shop. Hated the damn thing. Didn't mine the European Compass with the stiffer suspension and diesel engine.
peakdecline@reddit
That Euro Compass and the US Compass share an overwhelming amount of parts, technology, etc. The diesel engine is also dead going forward in Europe. And the engines are not that differently architecturally than what the US engines were.
You're making all these claims about the Euro version having better reliability, and better driving, and so on about cars which are overwhelmingly the same.