Show your work if you think you’re better than AI.

Posted by unvirginate@reddit | programming | View on Reddit | 17 comments

So it has become clear from my time lurking in CS/programming related subreddits that there clearly is hate towards anything AI.

Objectively the smartest LLM is ranked top 200 on codeforces- https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/133874.

And it definitely does not cost $100,000+ for annually for a company to use o3. Which is what I was getting paid when I HAD a job lol.

My question- is everybody who balks and cringes at AI better than it? Or is it a case of ol’ fox and grapes?

I’m genuinely curious because I can’t be the only mid skilled coder to exist on earth?? Because apparently, everyone and their grandma is a programming god????

If you oppose usage of LLMs and AI to build stuff, let me see your best work that you’ve done without any AI. I’m genuinely curious. I really want to understand this stigma on a deeper level.

TLDR: if you think you are better than o3 and cost cheaper to work with, show me your best work (or atleast please describe it) where you did not use any AI.

Thank you! 🙏

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unvirginate@reddit (OP)

Hahah. I actually started using Reddit actively to promote my product. But I soon understood that that is not cool here.

But while doing so I noticed strong hate towards AI. So I really wanted to understand this hate on a deeper level. I promise you this is not clickbait. Thank you.

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Backlists@reddit

There it is. An AI powered product no doubt?

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unvirginate@reddit (OP)

Like I said- not here to promote my shit. I have learnt my lesson. Please forgive me 🙏

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unvirginate@reddit (OP)

Thank you for being the only person so far to back up their arguments with actual work. Wish you all the best!

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unvirginate@reddit (OP)

This is exactly what I’m talking about! Everyone just keeps calling me dumb but no one shows me their best work like??????

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programming-ModTeam@reddit

Your posting was removed for being off topic for the /r/programming community.

pwouet@reddit

At this point I think all AI entrepreneurs are trolling this sub just to generate traffic.

It's all click bait.

Ok I'm not gonna try to belittle you. The source you're showing is about how AI performs in programming competitions. This means it's given a small but difficult problem and has to solve it with (usually) a few lines of code, maybe only a few hundred. It's very impressive how well AI can do that.

However, in the real world (and where AI mostly fails) people build truly massive applications. We're talking hundreds of thousands of lines of code, hundreds of components and usually years of iterative development time. And all of that while managing customer and managerial expectations and often solving never before seen bugs.

I'm not claiming to be a better programmer than AI for these competition problems. However I've encountered bugs that AI couldn't solve, bugs that I managed to solve. And I didn't solve them because I'm smarter but because I have a modular understanding of my company's codebase where I know what fluff I can gleefully ignore while focusing on the dozens or so critical spots.

faiface@reddit

Here, a carefully designed programming language (Very much a work in progress, but it does work)

Sure, AI can be good at codeforces as those problems come down to 50-200 lines of code solutions. Those kinda of things are a good fit for current AI.

I use AI at work as a great auto-complete for Java. But I would never trust it to go beyond being a multi-line auto-complete.

I hope we get there, but from my experience, it seems to be very bad currently for anything involving a lot of moving parts.

zigs@reddit

I'd show you my pay check but it's got PII. Point is, if AI was good enough, the company I work for would hire it instead

This is genuinely the dumbest thing ever posted here.

It reminds me of when Elon Musk asking for Twitter developers to email him their “most prolific line of code”