Fully new PC - am I overspending anywhere?
Posted by seekerGamingTV@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 29 comments
Hey guys, I am looking to finally upgrade from my trusty GTX 1080 and want to build a fully new PC that will last me a few years, so I don't mind spending more if it means I can keep this one going for a while. The plan is to be playing games at 1440p at the minimum.
I have been trying my best to look at reviews, the PSU tier list, etc. but I am fairly inexperienced with PC building, which is why I am looking for help on whether or not I am unneccesarily overspending radically.
The planned build I put together on pcpartpicker: https://i.imgur.com/SxJQ0hq.png
I also looked at slightly cheaper alternatives for some parts, but with the rather small difference in pricing, I am not sure which parts I could replace without losing any performance / quality: https://i.imgur.com/ib41fJJ.png
- I am unsure how big the gap between the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d is when the price difference comes out at around 100€
- Same for the difference between a B650 and B850 board (60€ difference)
- Generally speaking with my PSU I felt like I wanna be on the safer side with a 1000W unit for potential overclocking / undervolting in the future even though an 850W PSU would probably do the job as well.
- Lastly since I am paying a decent bit for the build, I am not sure how big the difference between a Gold and Plat efficiency PSU is (50€ difference)
I know the Case isn't the cheapest, but I like the combination of room, thermals, acoustics and have been very happy with my current Fractal case. For the GPU I planned on getting a 9070XT for a while, but the prices are still fairly high in Germany and the 5070 TI prices are fairly close to the German MSRP (which is 879€), so I went with a slightly higher-tier model.
I'd be very helpful for any feedback on the build or confirmation if I'm on the right track here.
lafsrt09@reddit
A year ago I rebuilt my pre-built PC. That was 9 years old. I kept the case in all the case. Fans replaced. Everything else went from a 6700kcpu to a 13700k CPU, one from a z 190 motherboard to a z790 motherboard went from 16 GB to DDR4 ram the 32 GB toddr5 ram. Then I added a 800 PSU. One from a 1080 TI to an RTX 3080 on a 32-in 1440p 144 HZ monitor. The best upgrade ever. Very pleased
Numerous_Gas362@reddit
You don't need a 1000w PSU, 850w will be plenty. Look at A850GL's pricing in your region.
The SSD and Case is also on the expensive side so you could certainly save some money there without it having an impact on the performance.
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
Thank you for your effort and input. I realise the case is much more expensive than it needs to be, but I am a fan of Fractal cases and am willing to spend that extra for aesthetics, thermals, etc.
Is there a reason to go with the Phantom Spirit CPU cooler over the Peerless Assassin, considering it's the more expensive part.
In terms of PSU, I was going off of recommendations to grab an A-/A+-tier PSU for builds in this price range, hence not going for e.g. the A850GL (according to the PSU tier list).
gloomdwellerX@reddit
For what you’re getting, the Fractal North is solid. I just built my 9800x3d and 5080 in the North and it’s just such an amazing, well built case. If I knew the Meshify 3 was coming I might have waited for that, but you can’t go wrong with Fractal. You’re not overspending on the case, it’s very well worth it at $140.
Numerous_Gas362@reddit
The Phantom Spirit is an updated model of the Peerless Assassin.
The PSU tier list is more of a general guide, rather than an absolute list you should always follow. The A850GL is a perfectly capable PSU for high-end builds, but if you want the peace of you mind you can look at the A850G (no L), that one should be an A-tier PSU, while still being cheaper.
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
I was actually not aware of the Phantom Spirit, looking into it now. Thanks a lot for the info on that!
The A850G looks like a good bargain, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I am still wondering if the extra headroom of a 1000W PSU is worth the increased price if I plan to overclock/undervolt later down the line.
Since you included the 9800x3d in your list above, I assume the 9800x3d is still a solid investment even if I "only" buy a 5070 TI over something like a 7800x3d?
Numerous_Gas362@reddit
The 9800x3d is a good pairing for the 5070 Ti, as long as it's not grossly overpriced.
As for the PSU size, the 5070 Ti has a TDP of 300w, the 9800x3d 120w, with the rest of the components in place you will be looking at roughly 500w consumption at MAXIMUM load, whereas in reality your PC won't be at max load pretty much ever.
Even with overclocking taken into account that should still leave you with plenty of headroom for upgrades, unless you decide to grab a xx90 series Nvidia GPU or some other power hog, but even then an 850w PSU should suffice.
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
Thanks a lot for elaborating, that does make a good argument for going with an 850W PSU and saving some money. It's unlikely that I'll go for a xx90 card in the future. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to reply and give advice.
NATEDAWG9111@reddit
I was also going to say OP doesn't need the Samsung SSD and a different brand that's a bit cheaper will store data just as well.
cold-corn-dog@reddit
Eh, you'd save like 10 euro at best for a similar drive. I'd go with Samsung.
zarif2003@reddit
The 2nd photo is pretty nice, have you considered maybe switching to an MATx motherboard? You can then get an MATX case and have a more compact pc. Mainly saying because it doesn’t seem like you need all the extra space
LemonOwl_@reddit
On the mobo, sad, case, and psu. And that gigabyte gpu as melting goo that leaks out of the sides.
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
For the case I know I am overspending, but will likely stick to it just due to aesthetics.
For Mobo, would you just go for a B650 or are there any specific ones that I should look out for?
For PSU: do you reckon the RM1000x (in the second build picture) is a good compromise for quality + wattage headroom and price?
The situation with the Gigabyte GPUs I somehow did not know of, thanks a lot for bringing that to my attention. Might have to check if it's with all the models (Windforce, Gaming, Aorus, etc.). The Gaming OC stood out to me due to the better thermals and acoustics from reviews I watched.
Liberator1177@reddit
I say stick with that case. I used it when I built my current PC and I love it. I love the look and it was really easy to build in. Great airflow too.
LemonOwl_@reddit
MSI B650 Gaming Plus Wifi is my top choice for ATX
For mATX the Asrock B850M Pro-A Wifi
This is based on the prices in the USA, it could be different where you live.
FractalAura@reddit
9800x3d is about 10% better than 7800x3d. Both are perfectly capable cpus to be paired with a 5070ti. You really only need 1000w psu if you plan to eventually upgrade the gpu to something more demanding. If you're sticking with the 5070ti, even with overclocking, you'd be totally fine with 850w. As for the more expensive mobo, really its only worth it if it supports asynchronous clock and you want to OC your cpu. Otherwise the 650 board would be just as good, as long as it has all the correct connections you want/need (like pcie 5.0, etc)
Hairy_Somewhere9970@reddit
Looks nice, can you send its pc part picker link?
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/seekergamingtv/saved/PmHHRB For the more expensive version.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/seekergamingtv/saved/v8wBTW For the slightly cheaper version.
Hairy_Somewhere9970@reddit
It is showing the list is private
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
My bad, should be fixed now.
Hairy_Somewhere9970@reddit
Ok, check this out, RTX 5080 build at similar price of the cheaper build- https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TPD8kf
cold-corn-dog@reddit
I'd consider going with a 1000w PSU. Sure, you don't need it, but it's only about 20 Euro to upgrade form a 850w. You'll get much more headroom and who knows that power requirements your next GPU will have. It'll save you a hassle in the long run.
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
Yeah, that was my reasoning, too. The question is rather if I should spend that \~40€ extra on a platinum PSU over a gold one. Rest of the specs, according to the PSU tier list, seem to be the same.
LemonOwl_@reddit
Which PSU tier list? SPL's or the outdated cultists.network one?
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
Yeah, SPL's tier list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview#)
AntiZig@reddit
Looks pretty good.
Stargate_1@reddit
Look at the Crucial T500, usually always a bit cheaper than the 990 Pro but essentially the same drive performance wise.
seekerGamingTV@reddit (OP)
I just realised that pcpartpicker does not properly filter SSDs for DRAM capabilities. I looked at the cheapest €/GB pricings with good reviews that had a DRAM-cache on pcpartpicker. That is good to know, thank you for making me aware of that.
Stargate_1@reddit
I mean 7€ is 7€.
They perform almost identical so there's no reason to spend 7€ morr