When does your school year start and end??
Posted by TheGardenOfEden1123@reddit | AskAnAmerican | View on Reddit | 189 comments
As an Australian, your school year confuses me so much. I gather it starts in the middle of the year, but I cannot fathom why.
Gyvon@reddit
When I went to school 20 years ago we'd start in mid August and end late may. Usually the Friday after Memorial day.
Cowboywizard12@reddit
Cause that's the start of summer.
For you Summer starts a few days before Christmas. So your summer break starts then.
TheGardenOfEden1123@reddit (OP)
summer is honestly pretty shit where I'm from, (Far North QLD) it gets stupid hot and it's constantly rainy and humid. Winter and spring are really nice though, like perfect temperature. Summer is honestly not the season to be going and doing stuff outside in Australia
Cowboywizard12@reddit
You up neae Cairns or the Daintree?
I've always wanted to see the Daintree
TheGardenOfEden1123@reddit (OP)
yep, florida but worse. I am up near the Daintree btw, but closer to Barrier Reef. I'm in Mackay, and winter is honestly my favourite season because it doesn't get hot like summer does
TheGardenOfEden1123@reddit (OP)
btw, who the hell is downvoting me just bc I said winter is my favourite season?
Cowboywizard12@reddit
Now i got down voted
The fuck is going on here lol
Cowboywizard12@reddit
I have no clue, this is kinda weird
sto_brohammed@reddit
Yeah there's a lot of places like that in the southern US as well. I'm reminded of this sketch about a Midwesterner moving to the South.
https://youtu.be/dLjceTqaPlY?si=Rlqy4wq4ToegezW6
and that same Midwesterner in the South in the winter.
https://youtu.be/cc-7Se9XlEU?si=W-TAf-UIiv2GX2Ji
GotWheaten@reddit
Phoenix metro. Depending on district, schools start in mid July to early August. They finish the term in May
danhm@reddit
It starts at the beginning of fall and goes until the beginning of summer, roughly. So that way there is no school over the summer months -- just like Australia.
Enough_Roof_1141@reddit
It varies too much. It starts Aug 13th for us which is very much summer.
danhm@reddit
The "roughly" is doing a lot of work, alright?
Suppafly@reddit
Yeah I'm confused on how OP "can't fathom" something that's very similar to how their own country does things.
Boogerchair@reddit
It’s an even longer break than in Australia in most cases, but yea it shouldn’t be in the least bit confusing. Unless someone doesn’t understand that the seasons are reversed in the southern hemisphere.
Confetticandi@reddit
Mate…the whole world is not just the US and Australia. The Aug/Sept to June/July school year is the norm in pretty much the whole Northern Hemisphere: Canada, Mexico, the UK, Ireland, Sweden, Germany…
You guys are the outlier here and it’s likely because your seasons are opposite in the Southern Hemisphere.
You guys complain of US defaultism and then ask questions that treat the US as the default. wtf
Asparagus9000@reddit
Tradition. It was originally so kids could help with their families farmwork during the summer. No kids were going to show up in the when their family needed so much work done, so they just cancelled it for the summer.
Now everyone just expects it.
CaptainMalForever@reddit
This is a common misconception that many people were taught. Summers are actually off due to richer people rather than farmers. They wanted to leave the city when it was so hot, but then their kids weren't in schools during the summers. So, they switched to summers off.
Farm kids helped out mostly during planting and harvest, which are in spring and fall.
Suppafly@reddit
Yeah the initial idea of schools breaks might go back to early farming days, but summers specifically are because it's hot as fuck.
JimBones31@reddit
I'm surprised they didn't just leave the kids with The Help.
CaptainMalForever@reddit
They bought the help, of course. Because they still needed someone to cook, clean, and all the other luxuries...
JimBones31@reddit
Oh yes! Cannot be expected to do the laundry while touring The Continent.
Dunnoaboutu@reddit
This! Fall is the busiest farming time. It makes no sense for September and October to be school months if it was for farming. People needed to get away from the mosquito ridden areas and to areas that were cooler and less buggy.
Suppafly@reddit
Also it's hot as fuck in the summer and AC wasn't really a thing in schools until relatively recently. If were just doing it for farm labor we'd have switched to year round 100 years ago when that mostly stopped being necessary.
Current-Photo2857@reddit
No. This is a complete myth, and it doesn’t even make sense. Fall and spring are the BUSIEST time on a farm, so you’d want your kids home then. Rural kids actually used to go to school only in winter and summer, because that’s when they weren’t needed on the farms.
Our current American calendar comes from the late 1800s and it’s due to industrialization and cities.
It used to be only the middle class & rich could afford to send kids to school (poor kids worked in the factories). Rich people of the time left cities in the summers because they were hot & smelly (horses were the main mode of transportation, they used outhouses, there was no refrigeration…). Rich people would go to the shore or the mountains for the summer (places like the Hamptons, Newport RI, the Berkshires, Breton Woods). Thus, their kids weren’t in school then. Middle class people copied the rich as best they could.
Also, it’s just too HOT to be in school during the summer.
CuriosThinker@reddit
I feel it’s really hard to pay attention when you are dripping sweat. It also makes you more irritable. Those aren’t good for learning.
UnfairHoneydew6690@reddit
Yeah I was about to bring up the fact that OP seems to forget that their seasons are backwards from the rest of the world. School starts in late summer/early fall in the UK too.
malibuklw@reddit
The entire southern hemisphere has the same seasons as Australia…
YogiBerraOfBadNews@reddit
The entire southern hemisphere, representing ~10% of the total human population.
ucjj2011@reddit
That's a shockingly low percentage that I had to look up to confirm. Yep, estimated 10-12%.
YogiBerraOfBadNews@reddit
I know right? Nobody wants share a hemisphere with them dirty exile 'Strayans
malibuklw@reddit
And yet, not the rest of the world
december151791@reddit
Shallow and pedantic.
eides-of-march@reddit
Do you think people like it when you’re pedantic like this?
jephph_@reddit
Their, the southern hemisphere, seasons are opposite compared to the rest of the world.
UnfairHoneydew6690@reddit
Cool. Doesn’t change that the rest of us don’t.
ZaphodG@reddit
It’s more that schools in much of the country aren’t air conditioned. The country has been predominantly urban/suburban for well more than a century.
Asparagus9000@reddit
It seems like it's the other way around. They don't bother installing air conditioning in the older buildings because it's not open in the summer anyways.
All newly constructed ones get it where I live.
SnooRadishes7189@reddit
I went to private schools that were building built in the early 20th centaury. AC would not become common in buildings until after the 50ies. And one of them could be quite hot in May and August.
TheLizardKing89@reddit
It’s not that schools don’t have air conditioning, it’s that the convention of a summer break was created before air conditioning was invented.
TheLizardKing89@reddit
This isn’t really true. The busiest times on a farm are planting in the spring and harvesting in the fall.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/debunking-myth-summer-vacation#:~:text=In%20the%20days%20before%20air,in%20cities%20to%20suspend%20school.
Impossible_Emu5095@reddit
My mom grew up in a farm town in southern Minnesota. When she was in elementary school in the 1940s and 50s, they didn’t do social promotion so she very often had kids that were three and four years older in her classes because they left every year to go work in the fields. It was not uncommon to have a 13 or 14 year-old sitting in a fifth grade classroom with 10-year-olds. They for very many reasons do not do that in the United States anymore.
Enough_Roof_1141@reddit
Widely varies.
In Texas it starts August 13 and ends May 22.
In Maine it starts September 3 and ends June 16
Rare_Independent_814@reddit
I grew up in NY and it starts after Labor Day and ends late June. I now live in Florida. My kids go to private school and they start late August and ended last week. Public school is different. They start beginning of August and I think they end around the same time. In NY we had an extra vacation, we got a 2 week “winter break” in February. Maybe that’s why it’s a later end date
Slippery-Pete76@reddit
Your summer is our winter. And it's not just the US - I assume much of the northern hemisphere shares the same calendar.
TheGardenOfEden1123@reddit (OP)
It's not about the season, though. It just doesn't mke sense to start in the middle, it makes it so hard to calculate what year people are in, and you could just start the school year in January, but still have your big break in the middle of the year.
sto_brohammed@reddit
It is though, and not just in the US. Here in France school goes from the 2nd of September to the 5th of July this year. This is largely done out of tradition for the same reasons as in the US, to align more with the agricultural calendar to let kids help at home. Nowadays it's so kids get the nicest months of the year off, and in France specifically because most of the country goes on vacation the entire month of August. I could see places that have unreasonably hot summers like Arizona or whatever doing it on a different schedule but they don't because of cultural inertia.
Exciting_Bee7020@reddit
Actually in Arizona (not sure about the whole state, but our district), the kids start school mid-July after a 6 week summer. We get a 2 week break in October, December and February when the weather is nicer.
Current-Photo2857@reddit
It has NOTHING to do with the agricultural calendar, please see the responses to the top comment.
Top_Location_5899@reddit
JULY?!?!
justdisa@reddit
I'm in my fifties and in the US. When I was a kid, we'd go until the end of June. Never into July, but it got close. We had longer breaks, and they didn't work snow days into the calendar like they do now.
sto_brohammed@reddit
They get a lot more vacation time during the school year here.
FlappyClap@reddit
So, what’s happening here is a clear example of “it’s different, therefore it must be opposed”.
We’re accustomed to our school years. Why change it? If you’re not familiar with it at all…
… why would you make suggestions on when we should start?
Slippery-Pete76@reddit
This sub seems to have devolved into ‘Americans are dumb because of who a bunch of them voted for to be President so let’s rip on everything they do, even if it’s not unique to the US.’
anneofgraygardens@reddit
Are you aware that the US is not at all an outlier in how it arranges its school schedule? European schools work in exactly the same way. Imagine if we started school at a totally different time from the way Canadians do it, that would be so wonky.
It's only confusing and hard to calculate to you, person who isn't accustomed to this system. It's like if I said "how to Australians remember that it's fall in March? That's so backwards!" You would, rightly, think I was an idiot.
azuth89@reddit
It's not hard.
Someone generally starts the school year at (grade level) + 5 years old.
1st graders are mostly 6 with some turning 7 during the year. Follow the pattern up to 12.
plutopius@reddit
What needs to be calculated? If you want to know what grade a kid is in, you just ask. That's the one question kids and parents are never shy about.
rawbface@reddit
It's not hard at all, actually. Could this be difficult for YOU simply because you're not used to it? We don't have any problems with this.
JimBones31@reddit
If you find it difficult to read a calendar, maybe our school systems are not performing so badly in comparison.
TheBimpo@reddit
Ask yourself, when did this begin? Why? What would need to occur to change this and what purpose would that serve?
gothica_obscura@reddit
Your school year basically runs year round with much longer breaks. My kids have holiday breaks, but at most they last for a couple of weeks at Christmas.
JLR-@reddit
How?
Having a long 3 month break then returning to school in the same grade makes no sense.
No-Diet4823@reddit
Start of August to the end of May. The school district started the school year on the first Wednesday of August. At one point we started on August 2.
machagogo@reddit
Our seasons are different than yours... would you want to be in school in the middle of summer without the relatively new invention of air conditioning? Also, people had to work the fields in summer.
Ecks54@reddit
American kids start in the "middle of the year" because we threw off the filthy shackles of King George III, who wanted American children to start their school year promptly at 6:00am on January 1.
We Americans weren't having it and decided if we want to start school in late August, by God that was what we were going to do!
GreenWhiteBlue86@reddit
The American school year was created when the United States was a mostly rural and agricultural country. School was conducted during the winter, while children were out of school during the summer months when they were needed to help with growing and harvesting crops. As we moved away from being a mostly agricultural society, the heat of summer, and the preference of summer for vacations, kept the original school year in place. Therefore, the traditional school year ran from September (the end of summer) to June (the beginning of summer), although in many places, and for no reason I can figure out, it has been moved back so that school starts in August and ends in May.
Quirky_Spinach_6308@reddit
Locally (northern Illinois), the reason given was so that the semesters could run August-September, January -May, not September-January, February-June. I attended school under the old schedule, so you went on winter break and then came back for Midterm exams.
GreenWhiteBlue86@reddit
"August-September"? Surely you mean "August-December", don't you?
Ecks54@reddit
Well, these budget cuts are getting REALLY stringent!
Quirky_Spinach_6308@reddit
Yep.
CaptainMalForever@reddit
This is a common misconception. Summers are actually off because rich people wanted to leave the city. Farmers actually benefit more from having the spring and fall off.
GreenWhiteBlue86@reddit
At the time the school year was created in the late 19th Century, rich people did not send their children to public schools.
justlkin@reddit
I know for a lot of places it has continued to have a late August or September start because many schools do not have air conditioning and even in northern states, like Minnesota, where I live, summers can get unbearably hot into the upper 90s, even breaking 100 on occasion (32-38C). Those old buildings get so miserably stuffy, especially with the humidity we have, it can actually be dangerous, not just to spend the day in school, but for kids to walk to/from, have recess, be on busses lacking air conditioning, etc. Some of our districts have had to cancel school on rare occasions in May/June or August/September due to excessive heat.
_pamelab@reddit
In Southern Illinois we always started in August, which is usually the hottest part of the year. My high school was partially outside and had tons of stairs so that was just awesome.
revengeappendage@reddit
Starts: End of August
Ends: First week of June
Cowboywizard12@reddit
In Massachusetts our school ends end of June, but we don't go back till after Labor day.
As a kid I felt bad for kids who went hack to school in August
1235813213455_1@reddit
Ya but the schools here get out in the middle of May so it's not like they are losing out.
MetroBS@reddit
Growing up in Arizona we got out in the middle of May, I always felt bad for kids who went to school in June.
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
I always felt bad for kids who went to school in August
Curmudgy@reddit
Today our weather is high 70s and cloudy, but then the next few days are low 70s to 60s, with rain. School is as good a place as any for that weather.
jamiesugah@reddit
Growing up in PA our school year used to start the day after Labor Day, and then when I was a freshman they changed it to the week before.
Inside_Ad9026@reddit
We start back August 4
CarmenDeeJay@reddit
Starts day after Labor Day and ends the Friday after Memorial Day. Our kids' spring break is just a Friday and a Monday, and they only get the days of between Christmas and New Years...no more.
ipreferthis@reddit
You’re gonna go insane when you find out Thailands school year goes from May/June to March/April (Feb/March-April/May being the hottest time of the year). Or when Japan and Korea do two large breaks in both the summer months and winter months.
Just has to do when it works best weather-wise in most places
PurpleLilyEsq@reddit
In New York the school year starts in early September after Labor Day. For high schoolers, the regents exams and final class exams are after Father’s Day in mid-late June.
Prize_Ambassador_356@reddit
Right after Labor Day to 2nd or 3rd week of June
shammy_dammy@reddit
It usually starts in September. Historically it began after harvest.
Techaissance@reddit
My college starts in mid August then the semester ends in December for our winter break then resumes in January and the school year ends in May. We get a fall break and a spring break for a week each and random days off like Martin Luther King Day.
mx-minnie-mx@reddit
Late August/early September until June or so
TheLizardKing89@reddit
In my part of California we start in mid August and go until late May or early June
TheJokersChild@reddit
It used to be pretty universal: first Wednesday after Labor Day (in September) to two weeks from now (third week of June). A lot of school districts have moved their year back to a more college-like Aug-May schedule.
Snow days extend the school year by a couple of days if they're taken.
LunarVolcano@reddit
When I was a kid we started early september, either one or two days after labor day (the first monday of september).
The end was a bit trickier and depended on age. Youngest grades went until late june, around the 20th or so. Older grades had exams starting mid june so classes ended a lot earlier. Seniors ended the earliest, usually first week of june. My sister is junior and ends on the 10th this year but the seniors are already done.
I also grew up in new york state where the start and end are later than most other states.
MarcusAurelius0@reddit
Here in NY its Start of September to Middle of June
I know Florida does August to Late May in some places because of the hot summers.
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
Where in NY are you? Downstate, public schools go to the last week of June. Private schools end a little bit earlier.
MarcusAurelius0@reddit
Western, Rochester specifically.
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
Interesting.
MarcusAurelius0@reddit
Looks like I'm incorrect it does go to the end of June.
TopperMadeline@reddit
It varies wildly by school districts. Some go from mid/late August to mid/late May. Others go June to early September (usually the day after Labor Day).
tcrhs@reddit
Late May-early August.
Pleasant_Box4580@reddit
Starts in August, ends in May
Shiny_Mew76@reddit
It used to always be June/September, now it’s May/August
manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit
Depending on the state, it's from August or September to May or June, similar to Europe. This is because summer in the Northern Hemisphere happens in June, July, and August. Many Asian countries do May/June to March/April for the same reason. I'm not aware of anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere where the school year doesn't overlap two calendar years.
School used to be year round, but some kids would have to go work on farms during those months, while others would go to the mountains with their families to escape the heat. So eventually they made it a break for everyone.
KarmaticFox@reddit
Depends on where you live in the country.
I spent the first 12 years of my life in NYC, and school started in September and ended in June.
I lived in Oklahoma for 2 years, and school started in August and ended in May. It was interesting.
CommitteeofMountains@reddit
Why do Australians claim the new year is in January rather than Tishrei?
MortimerDongle@reddit
It varies by location, but usually in August or early September.
Most schools have a 2.5-3 month summer break, and putting that in the middle of a school year wouldn't make much sense
Alpacazappa@reddit
It starts the day after Labor Day and ends around June 25th.
shibby3388@reddit
Imagine how an American would get dragged on this site for not “fathoming why” Australian school years are different than ours.
Real-Psychology-4261@reddit
The USA used to be a majority agricultural economy. The summertime is when the vast majority of the country grows the majority of their crops. Farming families needed the kids to help out on the farm. Also, it's nice to have the nice time of the year off of school. Much of our country has pretty cold weather in the winter.
My kids' school year ended June 3rd and starts again September 2nd. Here in Minnesota, USA, the weather is now getting into the upper 20s to low 30s degrees C, and will remain that warm until August/September. November through March, the temperatures are often -15 to +5 degrees C.
Redbubble89@reddit
It was the day after Labor day which is the first Tuesday in September and ends mid to late June. Since then, the school system has moved it back to late August.
justlkin@reddit
Minnesota had a law that was only recently repealed that schools couldn't start before Labor Day to help keep up tourism.
Redbubble89@reddit
It had been Kings Dominion which is an hour south of DC and most of the guests are from the area of Virginia and only a smaller portion from the Richmond area. NOVA is a massive market for them. I am not really sure what happened but it doesn't leave kids with much of a summer. I think with Covid and the summer slide, kids need school spread out throughout the year.
Pillowz_Here@reddit
early september to mid/late june
AdInevitable2695@reddit
Seasons. Remember, your summer in the southern hemisphere is our winter, and vice versa. Many schools, especially here in Connecticut, do not have air conditioning. Whatsoever. The only relief is opening a window that doesn't even fully open for "safety".
Imagine it's 40C outside, and you're trying to focus on algebra in a room that feels like 45, smells like BO because teenage boys don't know how to apply deodorant properly, a loud stand fan buzzing that never seems to rotate to your corner of the room, with those bright overstimulating fluorescent lights overhead. Oh, and you need to pee but your school has a vaping problem, so you're in a virtual school-wide queue and there's 163 students in front of you. IDK about you, but that sounds like hell to me.
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
We start in early September, and it runs through mid May to late June depending on what grade it is, or high school, or college. The reason being kids have summers off. Down south, I think they start in August, not sure though.
Express_Leading_4840@reddit
May and begins late mid August
notthelettuce@reddit
2nd week of August through 3rd week of May where I am.
brzantium@reddit
This coming school year starts 19 August and runs through next May (probably the 22nd).
I once asked a South African friend how their school year ran because of the difference in seasons. He said, "we get summers off just like you."
Jorost@reddit
The American school year traditionally started in September, right after Labor Day, and ended in June. This calendar came about because when the United States was young it was an agricultural country, and children were needed to help out on farms in the summer.
In the American South it has become traditional to return to school in August and get out in May. This has started to creep northward. I work in a school system in Massachusetts, and our first day of school is usually around August 26th. We do two days for faculty and staff, two days with students, and then break for a four-day Labor Day weekend. I hate, hate, hate it. In my mind you DO NOT go to school until after Labor Day. I consider it an abomination. July and August are supposed to be 100% school-free. Le sigh.
Every year our faculty votes on when they want to return to school the following fall. The choice is always either a few days before Labor Day, as described, or right afterward. Before always wins by 55% to 45%. Always. Every year that I have been here (16 years). It's maddening, but for some reason people are obsessed with getting out as early in June as possible. It makes me crazy because I would much rather stay later in June and not go back in August. But democracy, right?
Loud_Inspector_9782@reddit
Mid August to end of May in Texas. All schools are airconditioned.
Suitable-Hornet2797@reddit
Back in my day (lol), it started in late August and ended in late may or early June depending on how many weather make up days we had.
blipsman@reddit
School year begins in August or Early September and runs until May or June. My kid’s last week is next week, and they started in late August.
School year runs this schedule so that the time off is during summer… would be silly to follow a calendar year and end up with kids off for 2-3 months in the dead of winter vs. having them off during the summer. And of course the school year was originally influenced by the cycles of farm life 200 years ago, and has remained even as virtually nobody lives on farms anymore.
daysie778@reddit
As others have said, it’s tradition due to kids working on family farms back in the day. The way summer break is determined depends on what state you’re in.
Some states go by hours in school, and some go by days in school. When I lived in NC, it went by hours in the classroom, so we had a longer summer break because our school district added 10 minutes onto each school day. Kids got out in mid-May and went back mid-August. I’m in Maryland now and they require 180 total days. Kids get out in mid-June and go back mid-August.
asoep44@reddit
It starts in August and ends at the end of May/beginning of June.
Fun local fight is that we have a town street fair each year, and sometimes the school district will start school the same week as the street fair, which means it's empty during the day time and locals/businesses hate when they do that.
Inside_Ad9026@reddit
My summer break just started and I go back August 4. It’s not as long of a break as most people think.
Anyway, when I was a kid in Texas, we didn’t have AC. We had louvered windows. It was just too hot for school so we sweltered outside somewhere. The whole “it’s for farmers” is probably wrong since more (most?) harvesting happens in autumn 🍂
NotTravisKelce@reddit
What a weird thing to have trouble understanding. Why do you celebrate Christmas in summer when all the movies show it snowing? Makes no sense.
Other_Big5179@reddit
Back in my day it started around my birthday. aug 25.
rhombusx@reddit
The specifics are different for each school district, there's actually no real national or even state standards. Most states only specify a certain minimum number of days but leave scheduling up to the districts. Specific dates and lengths of breaks for Thanksgiving, Christmas, Spring Break, etc. also vary greatly.
My HS in NY went from early September to the end of June. Lots of places are August to May. Also NY had a 180 day school year, but here in CO the requirement is only 160... Also the length of the school day, start and end times, all of that stuff is on a school district basis. Add on to this that private schools often can kinda do whatever they want, and the US school system is very varied.
L8dTigress@reddit
When I was growing up Summer started at the end of June and the new school year started in September the day after Labor Day.
msspider66@reddit
I grew up on Long Island, NY
School started the Wednesday after Labor Day
School ended in mid June
aWesterner014@reddit
My highschooler: Starts mid August, Ends late May/early June depending on "snow days used"
My college student: Starts beginning of September, ends late May
B_O_A_H@reddit
Iowa, mine went from the third week of August to the third week of May. My district didn’t have spring break, so we got out a few days earlier than other districts.
seifd@reddit
As several others have said, the school year begins at the end of August and goes until the start of June. However, several people have given you the mistaken reason that it was to help with farm work. This is not true.
Traditionally, the time.when families needed help and hired extra workers was during the harvest. That's begins in August and continues through October. So, if that was the reason, that's when the break would occur.
The actual reason has to do with early education in America. There was no public education in America, only private schools.that only the wealthy could afford. In those days, there was no air conditioning and epidemic diseases would.hit cities. As a result, the wealthy would spend the season at summer homes in the country, preferable at a higher elevation where it's not so hot. Schools accommodated this by having the school year begin when families came back and end when they were leaving. When public schooling became a thing, they used the school year of existing private schools as a model.
This might have been strengthened by the rise of summer camps in the late 19th century due to concerns about kids not spending enough time in nature due to urbanization.
YoshiandAims@reddit
August start June stop
ArcadiaNoakes@reddit
Since the OP didn't share what the Australian school year looks like, I wanted to compare. Here is what I found (all numbers are presuming public/state schools...I assume that like in the US, private schools can and do have different calendars)
"The school year in Australia goes from late January until mid-December. It is divided into two half-year periods (semesters) with two terms each, the so-called High School Terms. Each term is approximately 10 weeks in duration. At the end of each term there are school holidays."
So, their year runs on the calendar year, with no long break in their winter. Their longest break is after Christmas, which is summer there. It looks like its approximately 5-6 weeks long. They end up with.....about 190-200 instruction days per year. It starts roughly in their early summer through autumn and winter and ends at end of spring.
Typically in the US, 180 is the minimum number of days, and anything over 190 is uncommon. The US school year also starts in summer (although later in the summer), runs through autumn, winter, and spring, and generally ends before the start of the next summer.
My nephew is Belgian (my wife's brother moved to Europe for grad school, met and married a Belgian and as of 2022 became a Belgian citizen), and I lived in Germany. The Belgian school years seem to be similarly aligned with the most the rest of western Europe, AFIAK. His academic year starts Sept 1, and ends on June 30, with a week long break the first week of November, 2 weeks at Christmas, 2 weeks at Easter, a week in February, and a full 8 week summer break starting July 1. I knew these dates because my wife and her brother coordinated when we could visit each other with our kids.
My observation of the dates of German school year as that it started in late August, had a longer Christmas break than my kids in the DoD schools (2 weeks for US kids, 3.5 weeks for the Germans) and they had close to 2 weeks at Easter vs just Monday for the DoD schools, and then usually ended the school year in the first week in July (vs the 2nd week of June for the DoD schools). So....slightly different, but very similar to Belgium, the Netherlands, and France.
I think most of Western Europe has a similar schedule: the longest break is during the warm summer months, a rough total of 180-200 instruction days, a long-ish break at Christmas, and some other smaller breaks thoughout the academic calendar.
So I am not sure what the OP finds confusing about the US calendar, since its not dissimilar Western Europe and other nations in the Northern Hemisphere. The seasons are reversed, but their breaks are still pretty much in line with their respective seasons.
jvc1011@reddit
Everyone relating this to the agricultural cycle is incorrect. Autumn and Spring are the busiest times for agriculture. Most Americans are pretty divorced from cycles of planting and harvest, so they just believe what they were taught about this, which is absolutely reasonable.
The truth is that it’s the weather. When it’s hot, people like to do things like plunge their bodies into lakes and streams and rivers and oceans, not things like sit in a room with very little ventilation learning multiplication, especially when they don’t have electric fans or air conditioning.
Unfortunately, this tradition moved across the country regardless of climate. Where I live, the hottest months are August-October, and school starts in mid-August and ends in mid-June (when it’s usually nice and cool).
DrMindbendersMonocle@reddit
It varies a little bit. When I was in school in California, we started after labor day (first Monday of sept) and ended in the middle of june. Other parts of the country started sometime August and ended in mid May
Mental_Freedom_1648@reddit
Lots of answers about kids getting the summer off because they were historically needed to do work on the farm, but that's not something that's definitely true.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/debunking-myth-summer-vacation
CaptainMalForever@reddit
Yeah, I think this was a lie that we were taught, so that the school year would seem like it was more to benefit the working class, when instead, as with most things, it benefits the upper classes.
MetroBS@reddit
In the northern hemisphere summer runs from June-September. Nobody wants to be in school in the summer time
DepthPuzzleheaded494@reddit
In New York it’s September to June
CaptainMalForever@reddit
My husband is a teacher in Minneapolis. They start the first week of September (generally) and end the first or second week of June. This year, his last day of school is today.
The general rule is summer off. Before air conditioning, rich people would move to their summer house (by a lake or just someplace out of the city). Because they wanted their kids to not miss schools, the school year switched so that the summer would be without classes.
rawbface@reddit
So our time off is in the summer. I assume your school year is different from ours because your seasons are different. In my area school goes from September to June.
DrDHMenke@reddit
Early August in Arizona until late May. Other states may vary.
Impossible_Emu5095@reddit
My son finishes up today and my daughter finishes on Tuesday. This is later than some schools, but pretty average in our area.
SquashDue502@reddit
Usually very end of August and goes through the middle of June
ayebrade69@reddit
Generally it runs August to May
invisibleman13000@reddit
For me, school started the last week of July and ended the 2nd to last week of May. Start time varies throughout the country.
InsertNovelAnswer@reddit
Start after Labor Day and end in June. Though the teachers and staff come back in August to prep.
strangemedia6@reddit
Most schools get about 3 months off in the summer. When I was in school we got a 4 day weekend for Thanksgiving, 2 weeks for Christmas/New Years, and 1 week for Spring Break. I think that is how most schools still are. The school district that my kids go to has only an 8 week summer, but they get 2 weeks off in October, a 5 day Thanksgiving, 2 weeks and 2 days for Christmas, and 2 weeks for Spring Break. They also get the day after a Halloween and the day after Super Bowl off, and a few other days for teacher work days or whatever. It actually ends up that they don’t have more than 3 or 4 weeks at a time without some sort of day off. I think it’s good for the kids to have less time to forget stuff over the summer and more time to decompress throughout the year. But it does seem like it would be difficult for parents that don’t have flexible work schedules or child care options.
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
One reason mentioned is the heat. Before air conditioning in the cities, theater concerts, some workplaces closed down or cut back for the summer. In Manhattan, apartment dwellers regularly slept outdoors in central park during the summer.
Another reason was the agricultural season. On farms, family labor was needed in the summer growing season.
So on every front, the summer was the time to shut down.
CountChoculasGhost@reddit
You have summer break in your summer season, we have summer break in our summer season. Not that confusing.
Sorry-Government920@reddit
Early September trough Early june
DOMSdeluise@reddit
at the local public schools here, late August to early June.
CatchMeIfYouCan09@reddit
When I was a kid it started Sept, mon after labor day and end June 6 or 7.
MyUsername2459@reddit
Historically, it normally starts around the end of August or first of September, and ends at the end of May or first part of June. Most of the months of June, July and August are traditionally away from school, along with several weeks at the end of the year, always to include Christmas and New Year's. There may be a week in the Spring semester that is off for "Spring Break", and some schools may give a week off in the fall for "Fall Break" as well.
The reason for the summer off, historically, was so that schoolchildren could help out on family farms. America used to be a LOT more agrarian, and until only a few generations ago most Americans worked on farms. . .so children being able to help on the farm in the summer was very important. Also, before air conditioning this meant that children wouldn't be packed in to classrooms in the hottest part of the year.
Now, although air conditioning is virtually universally used in the US, and small family-run farms are much rarer in the US, the schedule continues on cultural inertia and tradition.
malibuklw@reddit
We start in early September and go through the end of June. It’s really nice in late august when we’re still off and others aren’t, and really sucks in June when you just want to be done. I’m so ready for it to be done
squarerootofapplepie@reddit
The Australian school years starts in the same season, it’s just that our seasons are switched.
LoverlyRails@reddit
My local school district began August 8th this year and ended May 23rd.
jennyrules@reddit
My sons first day was on August 22nd; his last day is today, June 6th.
TheNerdofLife@reddit
It usually starts in the second or third week of August and ends in late April for college students or last week of May/first week of June for everyone else. It's mainly built around the summer months, since a lot of people want to vacation during that time and it's hot and humid anyway.
WoodsyAspen@reddit
Fall semester is from August/September to December. Spring semester is from January to May or June.
Generally on the east coast they start after Labor day which is usually the first week of September, so they go later in to June, while in the west we start in mid August and go to the end of May. Graduation is after the end of exams in May or June.
MoronLaoShi@reddit
Grew up in Los Angeles where school year started around the beginning of September, before Labor Day (first Monday in September). Our school year ended like mid June. Unless we were in an overcrowded school that was on a staggered year round schedule, wherein like a third of the school was on holiday and two thirds were going to class at any given time.
University school years that are on the semester system are September to early May.
stellalunawitchbaby2@reddit
By me the schools mostly start in mid to late August and end in early June. This is the last week of school for most schools around me.
It’s a holdover from agricultural/harvest stuff back in the day.
I don’t think this is at all unique to the U.S. though, other places in the northern hemisphere have similar schedules afaik.
Seuss221@reddit
Ends in June starts in Sept
chibialoha@reddit
It depends slightly on the state and county, but I'd say the vast majority of Americans start in mid September and end in mid June, with a small break around Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter.
At this point, the only real practical reason we have summers off is tradition and infrastructure. There has to be some period of time for repairs in the school and for rest and recuperation, why not summer. As for why "summer" specifically and not any other time of year, there's some discussion.
The most widely accepted reason is that it's a holdover from agrarian roots, farming communities would have very large amount of work in those months, from sowing in late spring and early summer to reaping in late summer to early fall, so kids would need that time off to help with the planting and harvest. That being said, summer break is still done in parts of the country where this WASNT the case for farming, so there's likely other factors.
What is probably the second most widely accepted reason is that America was one of the earliest countries to really industrialize, and we have specifically very hot humid summers in the areas that first had large cities popping up. A population size equal to that of some small European countries being packed into a single small, dense industrial city, combined with an American Southeastern summer with no AC, and you can imagine why people took summers off in those areas. It could get dangerous to have too many kids in one brick box with a metal roof in the 104 degree, 95% humidity Georgia summer.
I'm sure there are other reasons, but these two are by far the most common ones thrown around.
Calm-Vacation-5195@reddit
Traditionally, the school year starts in August or September and ends in May or June, so kids have the summer off. Regardless of why, it's so fixed in our culture that businesses work around it, especially for vacations.
Some school districts have tried year-round school calendars that include longer breaks spaced throughout the year, but It's not common.
Pbferg@reddit
I went to school from the middle of August to the first or second week in May. This was from 1997-2010. It seems relatively unchanged although I do not (yet) have school aged children.
fourlegsfaster@reddit
USA follows the same pattern as the UK, where from mediaeval times universities and the schools which were often charitable foundations, took a long summer break, one purpose of which was so that the boys could return home to assist with harvest, at the time the countries of the UK were largely agricultural.
It seems logical that the academic year should start after the longest break, which is why the academic year starts in September. As far as I know, it is no different in other northern hemisphere countries.
Future_Pin_403@reddit
My schooling always went from the second week of August to the last week of May. June/July off
Weightmonster@reddit
Varies slightly from area to area and maybe even school to school. There are no national rules.
Typically Early/Mid August to End of May or End of August or first week of September until mid-June.
The School year is almost always 180-185 days. 180 days is typically the required minimum.
We typically get 1.5 weeks off for winter vacation and a week for spring break. Plus a bunch of random days off for Thanksgiving, other federal holidays, major religious holidays, Memorial day, teacher training, typically elections, etc.
Ahjumawi@reddit
The school year started in September or so, after the harvest came in.
MsPooka@reddit
We get summers off because historically kids would work on family farms in the summer so they needed to be off in the summer to help out. It's stuck.
AKamDuckie@reddit
K-High school: Early/mid August to mid-May
College: Mid August to early May
GreenWhiteBlue86@reddit
Not in my state. It is still September to June in New York.
Cheap_Coffee@reddit
Our school year still runs off the calendar of a agricultural nation from the 19th century.
Seriously.
whatisthis2893@reddit
Last day of school was May 23. First day is August 1. We are on a modified year round schedule. Suburb of Atlanta-ish (north).
Practical-Emu-3303@reddit
August/Sept - May/June. Stems from early days of school in the US where kids were needed at home during the agricultural season to work. Has stayed that way based on US tourism.
Nellylocheadbean@reddit
School starts after Labor day in Sept and ends in late June
tacobellgittcard@reddit
It ends about a week into June and starts back up after Labor Day
Mental_Freedom_1648@reddit
Depends on the state. In mine, it's usually somewhere around September 8th for a start date and June 30th for the end.
KrazySunshine@reddit
Starts the end of August and ends the first week of June
Zealousideal_Cod5214@reddit
Depends on the district, but my school district started in the first week of September and ended the first week of June.
SingingGal147@reddit
In NJ, Tuesday after Labor Day to mid June. Where I live in PA, end of August to 1st week of June. Traditionally later June - August are the hottest months and not every school used to have air conditioning. Also probably kids helped harvest crops on farms during those months.
molten_dragon@reddit
My kids' district starts the last week of August and ends the first week of June.
Historically schools weren't in session during the summer so kids could help on farms. And since there's a 2-3 month break with no school it just makes more sense to call each continuous chunk of schooling one "school year".
NightOwlWraith@reddit
The school calendar varies a lot depending on what state and region you are in. There is no one school calendar for the entire country.
snarkwithfae@reddit
Depends on the state.
In MA: I went from early September through late June (with 2 weeks of Christmas, 1 week off in February and 1 week in April and 2 days off for Thanksgiving). Had a couple bank holidays like Columbus Day and Veterans Day off too.
Here in Kentucky where I live now: it’s August - May. With a week off in late September for fall break, 2 days off Thanksgiving, 2 weeks for Christmas, and a week in March). But they still go to school on Columbus Day and Veterans Day.
I prefer the MA calendar over the KY. Just makes more sense.
RealMoleRodel@reddit
We still have schools without Air conditioning, so the hottest months kids stay home.
Cebuanolearner@reddit
August/Sep - may/June
Cause people wanna travel during summer
Traditional-Dog9242@reddit
Getting the summer off means school starts Aug/Sept and goes through May/June.