Sold my Camaro on FB will it come back to bite me?
Posted by ProfitNo659@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 40 comments
Hey guys Im new to the whole car thing so please dont cook me. So I sold my 2015 Salvage title camaro for about 7k on marketplace and it had about 94k miles and a bunch of problems. So I live in California, and I explained to the buyer all of the problems, such as the ac not working and the passenger didnt open from inside and out. So the buyer knew what he was getting into and i even explained that were dodgy repairs done to both the ac and door. The car was also missing weather strips and fender liners but that was clearly visible. There were several cosmetic defects but im sure he would have seen them so that surely cant come back to me right? So i Sold the car about 3 days ago and im ready to purchase a new car and i have the money in hand. Im just worried he might notice something that We hadnt spoken about before hand and he might try to ask for the money back and have it come back and bite me. Just need some advice I would greatly appreciate it.
PurpleK00lA1d@reddit
You're fine. Buying a used car privately carries no warranty.
solbrothers@reddit
Other than passing smog, which is sellers responsibility in CA.
Make sure to submit the release of liability.
Sold a car years ago and got some parking tickets because I didn’t submit the release of liability
mpython1701@reddit
This^^^
If it passes smog and you gave him new smog cert and bill of sale stating as-is, you are all good.
ProfitNo659@reddit (OP)
Thanks brotha!
Ok_Growth_5587@reddit
If he dies bother you down the line just block and move on. You didn't sell him a warranty with the car.
MisterBitterness42@reddit
Assuming a person buying a salvage titled car with multiple minor issues is a car guy who’s bought similar cars before and knows what he’s getting into, he’s probably just happy he got a Camaro for 7k with only minor issues. I doubt he’s worried about it
right415@reddit
It would have been safer if you wrote out a bill of sale together and both signed it that stated it was sold "as is" . I even go so far as to take a photo of the signed bill of sale with the buyers drivers license so that there is irrefutable evidence that they signed and understood.
HateItAll42069@reddit
How would that be safer? It's like wearing a helmet to eat soup. Totally unnecessary.
nasalevelstuff@reddit
Are you really asking how a written contract offers legal protection?
It simplifies the process of defending against fraudulent claims the buyer might use to try to unwind the deal, the literal thing OP is worried about
HateItAll42069@reddit
As is sale does that already.
nasalevelstuff@reddit
How do you know it’s “as-is” if it’s not in writing?
AlaskaGreenTDI@reddit
Because every sale is inherently as is an a warranty is explicitly stated.
nasalevelstuff@reddit
Okay, if the buyer claims that a warranty was explicitly stated at time of sale then how do you counter that claim? Verbal contracts are binding in all 50 states
dbx999@reddit
No they aren’t. A written instrument is required for any sale of goods over $400. Uniform Commercial Code. There’s no warranty on used cars either. It’s as is.
You might as well advise they get their cash notarized. That means nothing and does nothing.
nasalevelstuff@reddit
You do not know what you’re talking about, sorry. You will often need to go to court to defend fraudulent claims of a sale condition in a verbal agreement if there’s no written bill of sale.
I’m not sure why people who are too lazy to draw up a simple bill of sale are so adamant that it’s the best way to do things.
dbx999@reddit
The bill of sale is literally the signed title. The title is made that way so it conveniently suffices as the only legal instrument needed for a private party sale.
Any additional ancillary agreements that are not part of an As-is sale, sure you can draw up a separate independent contract. Say you buy the car and you want the seller to come to your house to wash the car every Saturday for a year for $20. That’s a separate contract.
Now your assertions are completely baseless. What law school did you attend? At least I took contracts and know about this basic stuff and how state law (most jurisdictions have the same rules for used car transfers and sales).
OP is worried about missing a material disclosure that might invalidate the contract but it doesn’t sound like that’s the case.
nasalevelstuff@reddit
“The bill of sale is literally the signed title”
You know less than nothing about buying/selling cars. Stop giving out bad advice.
dbx999@reddit
You’re absolutely ignorant and trying to rebut a fact.
You sign the title with the odometer reading and date, that becomes the only necessary legal instrument needed to prove the transaction. No bill of sale will provide additional proof or superior proof than that. It would be merely superfluous redundant paperwork that adds absolutely nothing to the official documentation of a state issued title properly filled out and transfered to the buyer.
AlaskaGreenTDI@reddit
Because just claiming it isn’t proof, and it’s going to take actual proof, and without proof it’s going to default to the standard as is. Could this be more hassle potentially, yes, so making it even clearer to the dunce buying it helps, but it really isn’t necessary.
FLOHTX@reddit
Do you have a bill of sale and does it say "as is, no warranty"?
I'm also thinking private party sales are void of any kind of warranty but its too early to want to research that for California. Kind of lazy at 530am.
dbx999@reddit
You don’t have to express “no warranty”. That’s presumed. It’s the default setting on a used car sale. It’s sold as-is.
ProfitNo659@reddit (OP)
No bill of sale he just gave the cash i signed the title. I submitted the release of liability to the dealership
thymewaster25@reddit
Hopefully it had a valid smog when you sold it. Did you do a bill of sale with "as is" written on it? Although not necessary, it never hurts either.
FeastingOnFelines@reddit
Used car- no warranty. New owner knew what he was getting into.
MNmostlynice@reddit
It could’ve blown up the first time he started it after signing the title and it’s still not your problem anymore. The deal is done. If you’re worried about it, just block him on Facebook so he can’t reach out.
hoopjohn1@reddit
It’s pretty much universally understood buying a used car from a private party means one is buying it as is. Once the money changes hands and the title handed over, everything related to the vehicle is no longer your concern.
People often may go back to the seller and ask/demand money for some issue the vehicle has. People can ask all they want. The proper response from the seller is telling the buyer to pound sand.
jrileyy229@reddit
You sold him a salvage title car? There is absolutely no burden on you for anything at this point... That deal is done.
bigtony8978@reddit
Not your problem
HalfBlindKing@reddit
If he comes back and wants money or a return, you just say no thanks and then block him or don’t if you want to see if he’ll build a harassment case for himself. Probably nothing happens, I’ve been honest about a half dozen or more dodgy vehicles I’ve sold and no one has ever complained.
Ok-Alfalfa288@reddit
He paid cash or bank transfer? Either way you have no obligation to take the return if he wants it.
ProfitNo659@reddit (OP)
Paid cash
Ok-Alfalfa288@reddit
What are you worried about then? Just say no, the deal is done and you told the issues.
ProfitNo659@reddit (OP)
Yeah sorry brotha I'm young and don't want him coming back asking me for the money i spent on a new car
krombopulousnathan@reddit
Yea you’d tell him to pound sand, you would not be under obligation to give him a refund. It sounds like you did not misrepresent the condition of the car either so no lawyer would take his case if he even wanted to sue. And if he’s buying $7k cars he ain’t affording fancy lawyers haha
You’re good, rest easy
cyprinidont@reddit
He can ask all he wants. Say no.
Ok-Alfalfa288@reddit
You told him the issues and that it was a salvage, just have to move on and forget about it.
tsidebottom2010@reddit
It’s yours. Nothing to worry about, as others have mentioned.
dwmoore21@reddit
Cars can't bite.
SonOfMotherlesssGoat@reddit
The person bought a salvage title car with known shotty repairs and issues. I don’t know about California but everywhere I have lived once cash is exchanged the deal is done. As I’ve gotten older I try to make sure that I do deals like this so I can sleep at night by being up front with everything even if I get less. It sounds like you told them of the issues and presumably the title so you should be ok.
ProfitNo659@reddit (OP)
Appreciate it and yeah i even wrote in the description that the ac and door do not work