What's the benefits to doing reefer?
Posted by Tomokomon@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 113 comments
Im still pretty new to all this. My recruiter told me they really need reefer drivers and was encouraging me to switch from dryvan but when I asked what the pay difference was between dryvan and reefer he said we would get 1 cent per mile extra
That comes out to what? $1per 100 miles?
Honestly doesn't seem worth the extra hassle
Vast_Obligation8213@reddit
I'm a Prime Reefer driver. Pretty easy stuff, Prime is a no touch freight so all i do is just drop/hook and live unload/live load. Just keep up with the Bols and be there on time. Basically reefer is the easiest division these days
truckingham@reddit
If you work for a mega that does mostly drop and hooks, that might be okay. But if not, 1 cent per mile extra isn’t shit. Reefer is a lot more hassle and a lot of stupid appointment times
Tomokomon@reddit (OP)
they have us swiftly moving from place to place on a fairly consistent basis.
Dezzolve@reddit
If hauling ass to make a 2:30am appt you can’t miss at a receiver that will hold you for 8hrs then kick you off the property sounds like fun, then reefer is the way to go.
If you love sitting in line at blue beacon for hours or scraping caked on crud out of the floor slats of your trailer, then reefer is the way to go.
If you love trying to find somewhere to dump 19,000 pounds of Kale that just got rejected for having bugs on your last load till home, then reefer is the way to go.
UnrelatedDaniel@reddit
I've never done any of that, most I've had since I started is tight appointment times but I can usually get around that as long as I have a valid reason, my company also pays for my washouts so I've never really had to worry about cleaning the trailer. I guess I have it good.
Nice-position-6969@reddit
I think you missed him saying that they have them moving "swiftly"
Dezzolve@reddit
No I didn’t, he was just referencing the company he works for.
Late-Recognition5587@reddit
It might be higher demand due to food. People always need food.
Here's one thing though. I got used to hearing mine run. The noise doesn't bother me now. Oddly, I have to have noise to sleep if it's quiet now. That pur just luls me to sleep. Others don't like the noise. You'll also have to fuel it. I ran out of fuel once playing the "i still have time game". That was a rookie mistake. I got fuel in time, it was winter here which helped. But, priming that thing was a huge pain. Not sure if it's normal, but, took me 20minutes of jerking the little priming pump. Enough to teach me not to f around and find out.
BreakOk2561@reddit
To get high.
Suge_White_619@reddit
Pissing people off that Park in the party row, with their trucks off and their breezeway screens in their windows to take advantage of the quiet and nighttime breeze, just to park next to us with your reefer running all night when you can park up front with the other company drivers that abuse their employers equipment and leave their trucks running all hours of the night.
Other than that, there isn't any.
Cutmeinfor25@reddit
OP really knows his math well. Guess what .61cpm comes out to in 100 miles
Desperate_Tourist554@reddit
You don't drive a reefer trailer. You pull it. You don't drive any trailers. You drive the truck that pulls the trailer. Sorry about the rant but one of the ways to be a professional is to talk the talk. It will help you walk the walk. The end.
Tomokomon@reddit (OP)
Reefer drivers... Drivers .. that.. haul refrigerated trailers..
At no point did I suggest you drive the trailer.
kit_eubanks@reddit
I can't think of any
TommyT223@reddit
I’ve heard doing reefer is pretty relaxing and fun with friends, but it can be expensive, and good luck if you get selected for a drug test.
Brilliant-Push3859@reddit
always have lots of good snacks and a chill movie for background noise
KarmicEQ@reddit
I hear it's good for joint pain... What? Oh.
FirstAmendment68@reddit
Lots of waiting at shippers and receivers. I suggest flatbed
xxenoscionxx@reddit
People will avoid parking near you
Tomokomon@reddit (OP)
Haha that's awesome
CapitanPino@reddit
Just remember, until you get exp/seniority more pay = more BS. food for thought.
Source: Ive dramatically increased my pay since starting trucking. Can confirm lots of BS.
Dildoschwaggins_007@reddit
A one cent raise is not worth it. Hell, a 10 cent raise wouldn't even be worth it for me.
OkSalt4691@reddit
Better pay for owner operator. The appointments could be anytime 24/7 3am 1am 5am you get the point.
Dangerous-Physics-37@reddit
Stay with dry van man 👋
Robjla@reddit
Dry van for life. No noise, less waiting
Wendidigo@reddit
In 2008/9 I ran reefer. Trucks were sitting, dry van flat oversize. I never stopped working. People will always need food even in a down turn in economy.
AndromedanPrince@reddit
built in vibrator
BigSchmitty@reddit
Reefers are loud and are right behind your sleeper. Temps are always important, and maintenance takes forever, just another thing that can wrong. Higher likelihood of a delivery getting denied. Another fuel tank to fill…those pilot points though! Hope you like live load and unloading, unless it’s a standard account your company has where you can drop and hook which is rare because…reefer fuel and someone has to pay attention to the temps. Did I mention it’s loud? Your neighbors at the truck stop will wish you pulled nose in!
All that for $.01? Not a chance!
beavismorpheus@reddit
Yup. It was always a long, stressful day when I saw that green dummy light turn amber. One night I didn't sleep because my reefer kept malfunctioning and I had to restart it manually every half hour to keep temperature. It was an entire truckload of beef. That would be sad if all those cows died for nothing so that gave me extra motivation.
And getting kicked off the property after being in a dock for 10 hours getting unloaded, so I had a fresh clock when I should be sleeping.
Definitely not worth 1 extra cent for all the extra stuff you have to put up with. But, it's a good way to get a foot in the industry since not many people want to put up with it. I got one year at a mega and got out.
BigSchmitty@reddit
I went foodservice straight out of CDL school. We always have the same reefer issues. Orange light in the mirror? Time to pull over and clear the alarm again!
hotdog11inch@reddit
Getting to sit in a dock for hours
Outcome-Electronic@reddit
It’s great for stress, sleep, appetite, and takes the edge off. What’s not to love about reefer?
StunningPass5040@reddit
Way longer wait times for live loads, crazy and weird appt times, tighter schedules to drive, lumpers. Way too many downsides. Did reefer my first year cause company paid off your cdl school bill if you stayed with them for a year, had a dry van job the next week after it was paid off. Swore never do reefer again. Just wasn’t for me anyway.
BuT_tHe_EmAiLs@reddit
Reefer pays significantly more than dry van work. An extra $.01/mi is insane. The more specialized you can become the higher demand you have to
Tomokomon@reddit (OP)
Is it really that big of a pay increase. Some people have said you have longer wait times to be loaded / offloaded I figure that would cancel out the small difference in pay you get.
Waisted-Desert@reddit
At your company, obviously not. At other companies? They could pay 10-15cents more per mile for refer. At many smaller companies they only run reefer or dry van, not both. So their starting pay for everyone is higher than a dry van carrier since they expect reefer experience, even if they're hauling dry goods at the time.
Nero-Danteson@reddit
If you're with a mega: detention pay is where it's at. You'll also get some dry van loads and have fun with telling shippers that you can just turn the unit off or 68° or something like that.
FCMatt7@reddit
He meant insanely low. An extra penny is total bullshit.
Mediocre_Ice_8846@reddit
If you bust your ass and drive 3000 miles, you just made an extra $30 before tax. So not worth it.
BuT_tHe_EmAiLs@reddit
Sometimes you have longer wait times. Reefer freight also has weird hours. Fact is, with a reefer you can haul 90% of the same loads dry vans can, and also the expedited, temp sensitive cargo that demands a higher rate that a reefer can only provide. You’re also much more likely to find direct contracts with shippers.
I’m a broker… but from my perspective, reefers definitely have higher earning potential. But if they’re paying a penny more a mile, you’re gonna want to switch to reefer only if factors outside money make more sense for you. Like others say, sometimes reefer freight stays local and would offer you better hours
Kbug7201@reddit
How do you become a broker? I've been kinda interested, but don't really know how to go about it.
_x-51@reddit
Butting in here, I definitely agree with whatever comments you read, I’ve had so much time wasted getting loaded/unloaded, and I agree with your conclusion that it IS a more significant factor than it seems when compared with the highly variable milage an individual load can have. I’ve had my company stick me with “local” loads before in PA and I functionally losing money on them.
Todd2ReTodded@reddit
I do food service and when it's hot I like to go in the freezer and enjoy some 0 degree air for a bit.
Whitehoneybun666@reddit
Reefer sucks lots of sitting and waiting around been doing it 3 months so far I’m done with it I’m going to get my tanker and hazmat endorsement then leave this company
Bigpete287@reddit
If you are going reefer, I would definitely go THC. You will be more satisfied.
kniveshu@reddit
Benefit is adding another skill to your resume. And being able to accept more jobs. It opens up more possibilities for you. 1 cent sucks at this place, but what if that's just an opportunity to use this company and its equipment to put on your resume that you did reefer for like a year.
As others have said, reefers can also be used for many dry van loads, so if you end up wanting to go solo or small company, then you're able to do both.
ValuableShoulder5059@reddit
Benefits, higher pay, and you often have more reject cargo that you get to "donate".
Downside, noise, fueling it, other drivers hate you at night, and unload/load times can be longer along with more annoying hours & schedule.
bquinho@reddit
Stay cool on hot days
ejperry135@reddit
Iwould only do it if the loads are drop and hook because everyone is telling the truth about having to sit for hours for live loads/unloads. I’m seeing a lot of complaints in the replies and they’re all correct— the reefers are Hell to sleep with, the trailers need to be washed out quite often, most reefer drivers have to hurry up and wait.
I would only do it if it’s drop and hook and local/regional so you can sleep peacefully with an empty trailer. Or in your bed at home.
The biggest benefit for me is how consistent the market is. There will always be a high demand for food so all year round reefer is doing great. Reefer is much better when you drive local/regional and there’s a set schedule, I personally wouldn’t do it OTR.
Old-Wolf-1024@reddit
There aren’t any
Nearby-Border-5899@reddit
the reason they need refer drivers is causse they only pay 1cpm more lmao
Lot more hassle, not good if you cant sleep ovver the reefer noise, schedule is fucked.
Lentezdelvalley@reddit
If that trailer ever runs out of fuel, good luck trying to restart it. Priming it and getting it to start back up is another headache.
Nero8762@reddit
In 12 years I’ve never had a reefer run out of fuel. The fuck you talking about?
Lentezdelvalley@reddit
Who the fuck asked for your unsolicited opinion?
W1D0WM4K3R@reddit
I've had it a couple times. Drop trailers sitting at a plant, they've used for extra storage. Then generally company gets someone on the plant's dime to prime and restart.
However, I had one driver leave the reefer on after he dropped it to go take his weekend, so lucky me had to fix the problem myself cuz I had a rat's dick early morning app to make. Think I bruised my thumb tryna prime it and get it started with a pair of jumpers in Canadian winter.
DANO8503@reddit
Calms your nerves, improves 90 % of activities, makes sex way better, food tastes amazing and you quit thinking about shit that bothers you
Lpgasman1@reddit
The noise
The sitting
The waiting
The free food they didn't want
The monitor temps every hour
12dv8@reddit
Benefits? Sure, here’s your list 1. 2. 3. 4. And there ya go….
deadpat03@reddit
Plenty of chances to get your 34 reset.
P3asantGamer@reddit
Certain jobs require knowing how to operate a refer. But operating a refer is about as difficult as operating a microwave.
bob696988@reddit
I enjoy doing reefer, I make 47 percent of the load as a company driver. Love the ones that pay 4500 and 47 % is 2115 dollars may be 5 drops but I am good with that specially when they are 20 miles within each other.
HipKat2000@reddit
I pulled reefer and I loved it - in the 90's, and even then, it was long waits at shippers. Especially on the West Coast. I still have bad memories of sitting at Bolthouse Carrots for what seemed like an eternity, waiting to get pulled in with a closing window on a Buffalo, NY drop.
10xbek@reddit
As a former dispatcher for reefer, there isn't much to be honest. Schedules are terrible. Sometimes, you get no sleep. On older units you get reefer problems galore etc etc. HOWEVER, you're literally helping to feed ameirca.
claptout_006@reddit
I hear its good for glaucoma
PGMHN@reddit
I do dry van and my carrier is always trying to get us into reefer but the math just doesn’t work. Yeah the cpm is better but you sit for hours on both ends of a run
PythonAndBeauty@reddit
You don't get paid for waiting?
Artistic_Alfalfa_860@reddit
Is it really any different for dryvan or flatbed? Customers don't make you wait?
PGMHN@reddit
80% of my runs are drop and hook. The live load/unloads i have can very wildly but it’s not an every day thing like I’ve heard from our reefer drivers
Artistic_Alfalfa_860@reddit
Yeah I run reefer with prime and I'd say based on that, definitely not worth the extra penny a mile
LogInternational758@reddit
Im a flatbedder and the receivers almost NEVER have me wait unless it’s one thats always a pain in the ass. Usually the receiver waiting on me to untarp and roll up straps. On the shipping side, there are a few places that make me wait, but Im usually in and out of most of them.
skeletons_asshole@reddit
Man I’ve been on a string of bullshit for the last 3 weeks, detained at almost every single stop, it’s been wild. Other than that I agree, most are in and out.
Another nice thing about flatbed is 90% of my pickups and deliveries are daytime only, so unless I’m picking up steel or something I have a regular sleep schedule.
Violet_Apathy@reddit
Reefer is fine as a team. Pharmaceutical loads are very nice and outside of very short runs, they require a reefer team. Pays well and most of the time it's asap so you're not stuck waiting. Solo reefer is less desirable. Erratic schedules, shitty shippers, and repugnant receivers. I have noticed the worse the pay, the worse you're treated.
247world@reddit
If it's dedicated drop and hook - it's ok, otherwise unless you plan to become an independent owner operator pass
IOOs typically own refers because then they can haul anything. As a company driver you might get worthwhile experience but you'll also have to learn to sleep with that reefer directly behind your bunk
K/S has plenty of dry freight, I'd not switch for less than ten cents per mile
MoekenTroll@reddit
One thing I noticed when I did reefers with a mega was compared to the dryvan guys, I was getting a lot more miles. Longer routes too. I enjoyed it and the .01 extra is nice. Especially if you get detention pay
truckmonkey12@reddit
Since nobody else has mentioned it: reefer is one of the more recession-proof types of work in our industry. People need to eat, economic crisis or not
Trkrjim99@reddit
Middle of the night Appointments to load and unload. Lumpers and my personal favorite, endless unpaid time in line at the Beacon to get a washout.
thellamaspantz@reddit
Reefer tends to have a lot more time sitting at the dock than van. Not that it doesn't happen to them too but just understand because of the temp controlled climate, you are as much a temporary storage facility as you are a delivery vessel. A 1cpm difference overall is kinda lame u could generally expect more of a pay bump at most carriers that do both types. On the flipside, however, reefer more than any other type of freight has the longest length of haul on avg. That in itself is compensation. So reefer is nice if ur sleep/nap schedule is flexible and you know how to work a logbook. Those long hours at the dock can be productive hours in many ways. Most places, however, will pay reefer drivers better than 1cpm over dry van. It can also be ur entry into working food service delivery or other types of specialized reefer gigs down the road. Honestly, as a new driver, I'd say try it. Maybe you'll like it, if not you can switch back or try something else. Either way, experience is experience, and the more you can do only opens more doors later on.
OnAJourneyMan@reddit
The biggest benefit to reefer is free time to play video games. When I first started trucking my bills were very low so I loved reefer. 18 hour wait for fresh produce to come off the field was just more time for video games. I still made way more money than I needed.
Wouldn’t do it again though, I’d rather spend that time making real money or seeing my wife.
Outlaw11091@reddit
I'll come out and say that it isn't.
Firstly, most of your refer loads are going East or coming from the East.
Second, if the company's detention policy is shit, then Refer probably isn't worth it because you'll be detained...frequently.
Also: you'll get 10x, 20x, the rejections. Which means you now get to drive - for free - to drop off a rejected pallet or 5 somewhere.
Something about the nature of OS&D and how insurance claims work makes companies not give a fuck, so sometimes dealing with the remaining goods is left up to the driver. Marten Transport told me once to dump a pallet of ice-cream into the truck stop dumpster so I could pickup my next load.
The only reason I got away from having to do that is because I didn't have a pallet jack and I told them it would take all day (probably more) to move each case by hand from the nose to the tail of the trailer. My dispatcher still tried to see if he could get other drivers in the area to "help"...but eventually they sent me to a local cold storage.
DaSaw@reddit
This here. I drove reefer for CR England for years. Yes, I was frequently detained by shippers and receivers. But I got paid for every hour past the first that I spent waiting. And I didn't get a load rejected once (occasionally a few pieces would be rejected).
It is more responsibility. But we shouldn't be afraid of responsibility.
QueballD@reddit
Absolutely nothing what so ever longer unload times longer load times less drop and hook more BS either go dryvan for a few less pennies a mile or go flatbed and make some money
theminnesoregonian@reddit
Have you ever tried sleeping with running airplane engine three feet from your head?
Helpful_Finger_4854@reddit
It gets you all the ladies 🤷🏽♂️
MssMoodi@reddit
Leftovers. Lol
No-Hold4422@reddit
On a hot day. It's sublime to enter the reefer box..
seawolf_5867@reddit
Reefer is pretty much the worst. If you can find anything else, do that instead lol.
Dknowles391@reddit
Reefer is one of those that means an inconsistent sleep schedule, mastering split sleeper berths and running odd hours to make appointments. It also means you can get stuck waiting much longer to get unloaded.
It wasn't worth it for me. I went reefer as they told me it was more freight. But the wait times and having to deal with rejected freight made the pay inconsistent at best.
I went back to dry van at a local company. Got more consistent pay. (I could make 2000 on a good week on reefer but not break 800 the next and then maybe 1200 average). (Now I make consistently 1400-1600 every week).
I operate daylight hours, I dont have to worry about finding parking at 3 am because a shipper kicked me off the dock after having me sit for 4-6 hours.
Yeah, all the power to the reefer drivers. It isnt for me.nut 1cpm isn't worth it.
Also, some loads require reefer, I actually had a load refuse to load me because it was a reefer trailer due to the chute limiting how high they could stack the boxes.
LastMongoose7448@reddit
If it’s dedicated reefer, you can do better than dryvan. If it’s OTR reefer, it’s anyone’s guess. You can run the shit out of 3000 miles one week, and sit at a dock for 36 hours the next.
pmmemilftiddiez@reddit
I just really like the way weed makes me feel - Tom Segura
bigpierider@reddit
The wait times are as bad as they say....and then there's the fact that they almost never take u early. If u bust ass 700 miles a day and get 2100 in 3 days. The apt will be like 5 days away. They will make u sit there keeping thier shit cold until ur apt. Time. Even if ur day(s) early. I do it cause its my truck and reefer pays alot better than dry van. But id never want to do it for cpm. Tell ur company you'll do it for 28% of the trucks revenue. When ur paid by the load...it feels different. U kinda just understand ok this load pays X amount and its gonna be X number of days...it makes the sitting more tolerable.
Flowing_North@reddit
Don't do it. You'll be sleeping with what sounds like 2 trains crashing directly in your ear. You have to run around and find washouts after every load which is a monumental headache. The reefer units are just one more thing to break down, and they do, now go hang out at the Carrier dealer for 2 days. Time slots are trash and load/unload time is unbearable long. Also consider you now have an added item to fuel up. Entirely too much dead time involved, the added money will not offset this, you may end up making less. As an added bonus, any time a produce is temp sensitive, it results in more claims and/or rejections. Stay away!
Tomokomon@reddit (OP)
Thanks!! I'll be sure to stay in dryvan. My recruiter is pushing hard for our class to all go reefer and has informed us "once we choose we can't change our division" lol honestly sounds like BS but I'm picking dryvan based on what I've heard here today
Flowing_North@reddit
Good luck out there, be safe
BramptonBGrower@reddit
The relaxation of the mind after 10 hrs of trying not to die. The thc relaxes the muscles too.....oh wait wrong reefer.
Mediocre_Ice_8846@reddit
3 words: Lumpers, Lumpers, Lumpers
topmeoff0204@reddit
Shorter trips lol
Baconated-Coffee@reddit
Shorter trips? I've ran frozen loads and produce from California to the east coast
Kbug7201@reddit
Thanks for bringing strawberries when it's not strawberry season! 🍓
Ok-Indication-8992@reddit
Don't do it
bobmonkeyclown@reddit
Plenty of free time, a sleep schedule you'll get used to, and sometimes plenty of driving in between.
ironeagle2006@reddit
I hauled reefer in the 90s when most megas were paying 25 cents a mile. My boss a smaller outfit was paying me 40 cents and all the fucking miles I could squeeze out of that paper comic book.
tynolie@reddit
Calms your mind. Makes you more empathetic. However I wouldn't recommend it if you plan on keeping your CDL
skeletons_asshole@reddit
I did both dry van and some reefer before I got to flatbed. For me they’d need to pay more.
Doing reefer, you’re going to be driving graveyard shift to deliver at 3am, probably long live loads and unloads unless you get lucky with a drop and hook contract, and you’ll be handling washouts and reefer fueling and everything as well. None of that is terrible, but not for an extra .01
I never minded the noise of the reefer unit, but I know that’s a big issue for some as well.
Microshlongg@reddit
Don’t like sleep? Well reefer is the right path for ya
New_Assignment_2341@reddit
2am appointment times. You'll be sitting in a dock for 10min - 10hrs. Lots of product refusal.
Shits annoying. Did refeer for 4yrs. Went flatbed for a year. Missed refeer cause I could get more sleep lol.
But your sleep schedule will be screwed. You'll haul dry and temp goods.
Your choice. I say go for it. Gives you more experience for when you jump ship to a new company.
Beneficial_Mood_2978@reddit
I talked to a driver today. He told me if for some reason the temp in the truck isn’t perfect when you arrive to say Walmart. They reject you. All that driving for nothing
mvamv@reddit
The pay difference to drivers should be at least 10cpm more than dry van, due to the nature of reefer work (working odd hours and babysitting truckloads of meat, ice cream, produce).
Seanw59@reddit
Regional reefer driver here. If I could leave, I would.
Emergency_Ad1152@reddit
Always ask yourself why they’re in need of filling a specific position. There’s plenty of cdl holders out there, if they can’t get anyone to stay, it’s usually for a good reason.
Slaughter_them_all@reddit
This
Fatguy503@reddit
Just keep telling yourself "All the extra responsibility isn't worth the money". Especially a penny a mile.....
msstatelp@reddit
You get a lot more waiting time to think about choosing to do reefer.
topmeoff0204@reddit
And regional