Also when you said "let's ask (username) that means you're asking for a second opinion on his question. Not if this is me. Your English skills are appalling.
Also that wasn't my comment. You changed a word and made it your own you illiterate bastard. Notice how you get all the downvotes and I dont? That's called a ratio buddy. You've already lost.
Its hilarious how you had to go through my comments on a different post and change 1 word to try and make my insult your own. I'm flattered really but you should genuinely get tested because you might qualify for disability at this rate you utter nincompoop.
It’s not so much an echo chamber as it is surrounding myself with like minded people. I don’t have any interest in spending time with people who are okay with erasing trans people or throwing legal immigrants into the back of an unmarked van. And I’d also prefer to spend my time with people who aren’t uneducated and extremely outclassed in mental spaces, which excludes most conservatives.
Lots of people told me your anecdotal evidence is bogus...
Also you are in an other ecochamber who tries to ban everything that goes against your argument.
See? Anyone can do that. We can debate to the end of time saying "but I don't think so" to each other.
Evidence, do you have it? It's fine if you don't i don't carry a briefcase with scientific papers around. But I don't go around spouting my opinion as a fact, because I don't understand how reasoning works.
I tend to not argue about things that I don't know. Which are many things.
nah, i believe nothing should be banned, you don't know me or what i supposedly am "in".
> Evidence, do you have it.
an argument without evidence can be discarded without evidence, i do not need to provide any evidence as the original claim didn't either.
i'm not the one that started with an opinion.
the claim was :
> conservative men are literally hiding their political leanings
whilst true in many case, cannot be made into a generalisation.
as such, as there was no evidence that it was always the case or even frequent, the "i know someone" annecdote is just as strong if not stronger, as a witness testimony is a stronger evidence than nothing at all.
I know for a fact that some of my friends are conservative and have girlfriends.
I know for a fact that a lot of conservatives are in relationships.
and i also know for a fact that a lot of conservatives do not hide their political beliefs to their partners (including the friends i mentioned).
just like there are also tons of conservative women.
sure, there are conservatives that hide their political beliefs, and probably liberals too.
but you cannot claim it to be a general rule.
I agree that nothing should be banned, but everyone who wants to speak up can't complain when people push back, lots of people use freedom of speech to be snowflakes when others react to what they say.
Doesn't matter who started the opinion, if you want to push an idea you are the one who have to be the one to show up evidence for it. "I heard a lot of opinions that agree with me" means nothing.
I was talking about using anecdotes to claim that if lots of people around you say something you can believe it to be true. And that old speel about reddit being some sort of liberal echo chamber where the only reason that some people catch flak for spouting political points is because the platform itself is against them.
But yeah I agree that, conservatives often have to hide that they see people from other groupsd around them as beneath them, because people often react badly to that kind of sociopathy. But lot's of them also doesn't hide their views because they like triggering people, or for lack of social skills.
maaaaybe just maybe you're just in a conservative echo chamber?
I don't have to guess. We have numbers from voting. We can see that there are more liberal women, so do the math.
I don't even think you have more anecdotal evidence. By all means you're more than welcome to go to TwoXChromosomes and do a poll or something. Or maybe point to a more conservative female centric sub? If you can even find one lol.
All you have right now is "because I said so". Quite a self out if I do say so myself. Did your tradwife file for divorce perchance?
lmao, the irony.
reddit as a whole is a liberal echo chamber, there is no denying that.
yes there are also conservative echo chambers, but i'm neither of the two so what even is your point.
polls on reddit will always tend to be more liberal.
you are basically doing the equivalent of asking to do a poll on 4chan or twitter.
you can't get a good sample on any social networks, the only way to get good sample is asking random people outside in the real world, and even then it may be biased depending on the location you are asking people.
ie in switzerland the french speaking part is a lot more left leaning than the german speaking part.
and no, i'm not divorced, nor married for that matter, in the 4th year of a well going relationship, and she's definitely not a liberal, but i'd not say she's a conservative either, she mostly don't care about politics, like most people you'll find in the real world.
anyway, politics are way too complex to be represented by a single political compass.
and likewise you can agree with things from both side.
ie i have no issue against abortion but i'm also against mass immigration, those two opinions are typically left and right.
The notion that liberal women don’t sleep with liberal men comes from an article where some leftist woman was complaining that liberal men aren’t masculine enough for her tastes.
The vicepresident of Spain also said that, she also said that rich people are building fortress in New Zealand and the Metaverse while the rest of us rot in a crumbling planet.
Sure, survey aggregates are a pretty poor way to prove my point, but healthy competition and the desire for social status, physical fitness and "strength" (physical and emotional) are all traits more likely to be found in more right leaning men, let's say. And of course, evolutionarily speaking those are the more desirable traits when you're picking for a partner.
Unfortunately the left has done nothing to help young men, or men's issues in general. It has also mistaken unequal outcomes with unequal opportunities, grabbing the chance to shame men whenever they can. Is it really difficult to see why their ideology tends to appeal to... A certain type of man?
social status, physical fitness and "strength" (physical and emotional) are all traits more likely to be found in more right leaning men
Lol, lmao, even. For anyone who cares, feel free to see the major supporting demographics of conservatism in most developed nations.
Hint, its generally the older, rural folks. You know, the ones who come from the poorest educational backrounds, have higher per capita obesity rates, and vote for raging fucking psychopaths every election cycle.
That's actually true. However, there's been a resurgence in younger men and women too, mostly young men who've come to realize the horrible world that the progressive left is offering them is, well, horrible for them as individuals and as a group.
My point still stands, since the dating pool of younger men aren't the old, conservative ones.
The only young group thats trended in any way towards conservatism is young men, and basically only white ones in the west. Young women have totally swung the other way, for obvious reasons.
You are simply arguing that far too many people are ignorant and have no fucking clue how the world around them works, so they direct that ignorance at scapegoats and latch on to total idiots who validate them.
This isn't a new trend in the slightest, its nowhere near the first time in recorded history that people brand themselves as "strong men" and take advantage of young, impressionable men to further themselves to the detriment of those young men.
Hey, let’s not forget Koreans who seem to be trying to do sexism like a competitive sport. But jokes aside, yeah. Even in places like Iran and South America, the young men are trending more progressive or at least a lot more secular.
Vote split is still shows a big gender divide for Gen Z Koreans, the only reason why the leftist won is because the other guy try to pull a coup and in most places that’s a massive disqualifier for most people even if they don’t agree with the other guys politics
Come to Brussels and see who are the most conservative men. Muslims or white guys.
USA isn't the World and the media in Europe love to chastise white people but seem oblivious that most harassment on the streets are done by guys of northern African decent. See: "Femmes de la rue" doc.
I'm a socialist but I am not blind. We are going back in Europe because of progressives getting their heads done in Universities.
Just like what happens in Gaza is a tragedy. But antizionism is bordering more and more to antisemitism.
I do talk to women, had my second year anniversary few weeks ago. I got into one of the best universities in my country while you're struggling with sobriety. I know it's probably hard to believe me since yeah, I do sound weird online but I'm laughing seeing all the replies from people trying to attack my character
I actually find that rightward trend of young men, at least in gen z, to be due to an influx of shortform content pushing narratives for engagement. Those I know on that trend usually get their info from TikTok or Instagram or manosphere content or other mills, but that's just me.
Yep I'm actually horrified how many right leaning people in my age group get their political opinions from the likes of Jordan Peterson and Charlie Kirk.
And then they proceed to claim leftists are the ones that worship celebrities
I assure you no leftie gets their political values from Megan the stallion or JLO. But the amount of people who do from right wing influencers is too goddamn high
I'd argue that comes down more to the type of celebrity you're dealing with. Like it or not, the big name celebrities like JLo and MTS don't hold nearly as much sway over the public as they would 20 years ago. The new thing is podcasters, because it's easier to empathize with them in the conversational format they're known for. Their political opinions get popular because they're discussed like a conversation, or presented like one, so they may be taken more seriously
I know, that's why, as a young man I am going to vote to remove those, I don't care if I get fucked over and starve due to no living wage, and a predatory healthcare system, as long as the woman who rejected me is also fucked
Desire for strength, status and wealth doesn't translate into those things. it is very rare for men to "get wealth and status" because you are not meant to.
So most men will try to compensate by trying to be aggressive, expect and demand unearned respect.
Nothing shows insecurity and weakness more than men trying to be "tough", specially when they try to be all scientific and explain why logically according to evolution woman needs to desire them.
Loooots of woman are attracted to twinks, if strength translated in being the fittest we would be outclassed by neanderthals.
I used to be considered a playboy, with no career, 5/10 looks at the time, definetely not buff. The secret? I had social skills and could clumsily befriend anyone at a party. And I tried to befriend everyone I got to be with.
Tldr, men are naturally masculine most of times, and trying too hard will make you look like an insecure unfuckable wimp.
Drop the left, right mindgames, stop "trying" to be a men and just be whatever is natural, be a legit cool person.
Desire for strength, status and wealth doesn't translate into those things
But on average, wanting something is gonna make you far more likely to get it. And just because you have low motivation or abilities doesn't mean everyone else can't work to get a little bit of it.
So most men will try to compensate by trying to be aggressive
In my experience, they become sly assholes who find loopholes and kiss ass, cheating whenever they can. But usually those people aren't attractive nor necessarily right leaning/care about ideology.
Nothing shows insecurity and weakness more than men trying to be "tough", specially when they try to be all scientific and explain why logically according to evolution woman needs to desire them.
Again, were talking about averages here, I never claimed it was a checklist or a guarantee and I'm fully aware of outliers and variation in desires
Loooots of woman are attracted to twinks, if strength translated in being the fittest we would be outclassed by neanderthals.
Again, AVERAGE. And neanderthal DNA did mix with humans semi-frequently. ~~For example, some people don't understand the concept of averages and make no effort to create an actual argument.~~
I used to be considered a playboy, with no career, 5/10 looks at the time, definetely not buff.
Because you got with women who mistook confidence with competence, who also didn't have any options or who screwed anyone.
stop "trying" to be a men and just be whatever is natural, be a legit cool person.
Well here I very much agree with you, but I'm saying that men on the right are more likely to both have ideals and work towards them. That makes them more attractive than the fat acceptance, feminazi gender goblins who take no personal responsibility
People who desire strengh, status, wealth often burnout to do things that'll make them look like they have those things.
But the strenght, status and wealth often doesn't fulfill what they need. Which is often validation, security, community.
I think that is the main cause for a lot of men's issues. What we've been tought to strive for won't give us what we need for a fulfilling life.
Yeah, we are generalizing. You have a point. You should look into interviews and pools about what woman find attractive in men.
They never say strenght. Like huge buff macho dudes, they do mostly like people who are slightly fit. And that are confident but without being overly competitive.
What we often think woman likes is mostly bogus.
Getting to know and date people isn't a job interview, as long as you can take care of yourself like an adult nobody is asking for a CV to verify how much "competent" you are.
Competency sure helps, but it's one of many criteria, just like, not being misoginist, being able to hold a conversation and e.t.c.
I agree that having ideals and working towards them is ultra valid. But where did you get that men on the left doesn't have them?
Like, let's drop the left/right bullshit for a sec, sure our ideals are different, but we push ourselves to not be just as good as our fathers, but to be better at things previous generations got absolutely wrong.
Also assuming that girls who would get with people you disagree didn't have options or was just hoes is such a jerk argument... you don't need to agree with me, but don't make a whole fanfiction in your head and speak it as it was true just because you imagined it.
Also... feminazi... this isn't gamergate, it's 2025, nobody wants you to stop being a man just don't be an asshole to woman and nobody will care enough about you to start an argument about gender.
no they don’t, not every adult man and woman is a radical commie or Nazi that gets a hate boner when they see a position left or right of them. most people are trying to get by
I was a mildly masculine centrist studying liberal arts, and quite a few very lefty women expressed their interest in me. The thing is, they were attracted to me because of the qualities that made me who I am politically, but not because of who I am politically.
They were attracted to the vibe, but hoping it's somehow combined with progressive politics.
There are attractive people throughout the political spectrum (both physically, and the vibe).
It's more that being a garbage human being (eg: wanting to strip women of bodily autonomy, simping for billionaires when you're working class) is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
Conservative men lie/hide because they are desperate to get with liberal women. The reverse is just not a thing, liberal men arent out there lying to try and get withconservative women.
Well to be devils advocate, on the extreme left, all people on the right are demonized and called Nazi’s and so they won’t date them for political reasons. I don’t see that as often on the right, usually just religious stuff.
In my personal viewpoint, the right doesn’t care as much about the politics as the left does, and will hide or undermine their own beliefs if it benefits them to get something more important.
Of course you can always just be a genuine moderate with beliefs on both sides of the aisle but that’s dying
If you want to have a discussion say your belief with your chest out. Advocating for the devil is to help prepare for debate not to hide your true beliefs.
Ah I’m not really hiding anything, liberal women care about it a lot.
See, if the conservative men hiding their beliefs cared equally about said beliefs, they wouldn’t hide them. It would be a dealbreaker for them just as much as for the women. The cons men who hide it don’t see it as a dealbreaker like the women do, so, logically, the women care a lot more about politics
Not hiding? Why bother saying to be devils advocate? Why not simply say you think it is ok for people to lie to thier parents? Also if conservative men didn't care why wouldn't they change thier beliefs? Also if conservative men didn't see it as a deal breaker why do they support the save act to take away thier wives right to vote?
Not really when an entire election took place because incels felt the current cultural trends weren’t getting their dick wet. “Get no bitches” is a quite serious phenomenon in US and has major impact on the political conversations.
Anyone talking about others getting no pussy, so most of this comment section. For leftist girls you just have to not like trump these days, which should be a given and for right wings you just need to buy them a pack of cigarettes
Well, there is a gender gap in the voting preferences from Men and Women for decades now, with women leaning on the liberal side. So take from that with what you will.
I mean it is a spectrum, on the far left, approaching a fellow lefty at a just stop protest is probably an abuse of power, given that you are an organiser and have a lot of power. Hippies, though they are dropping acid and exploring polygamy with their friend's life partner. On the far right, that ultra-conservative Christian isn't going to face damnation and the fires of hell for some hanky panky. Hicks on the other hand will fuck for half a can of bud light after a trump rally. Swings and roundabouts.
Don't get the facts mixed up. One party is known for always lying and projecting, the other has data backing up their claim instead of cherry picking one case that fits their narrative. Who do you think is right?
MAGA has ALWAYS been unpopular among women, and tbh no self respecting lady would vote for someone who is actively trying to remove their rights, let alone would fuck them.
Lived in a major city with annoying feminists. Major city was surrounded by conservative farmland. Took trips outside the city often. Saw the average conservative woman (hint: they don’t look like Fox News anchors). And always felt happy (but annoyed) coming back to the feminists.
Getting pussy is never the difficult part. Getting a pussy that doesn’t come with 300lbs draped in Walmart fashion infused with the scent of burgers and fertilizer- that’s where most men have difficulty.
Not saying anyone who doesn’t have sex is an incel, bur aren’t actual incels more likely to be right wing leaning? And also, right wing women are always going to heavily favour right leaning men and despite what this post says left leaning women prefer left leaning men. But aren’t there much more left leaning women than right leaning women? I think using that logic right wing men are more likely to not get pussy
To be fair, right wing men are complaining that they had to hide their political views. I don’t see left wing men having to do that, so there is at least that
Not that it's conclusive or anything, but there was an attempt to make a right wing dating app that failed because no women signed up for it. So there's that.
I'm a centrist who studied liberal arts (so right-wing in comparison to everybody else there), and I was quite popular with some women, but I think it's because of the vibe. They would like a progressive with a centrist/conservative vibe. The attraction wasn't because of my views but despite them.
Remember, sleeping with women is gay. What is a vagina designed for? Penis. You're literally putting your dick inside where another penis is supposed to go. That's practically docking. That's gay.
Sleeping with a man though? 100% straight. That man's butt isn't designed for penis. Ain't no chance of docking in that station.
See, when you go to prison, the most important thing in your life is gonna be booty. A man's butt. Booty, getting some booty is more important than eating food, it's more important than drinking water.
I do not care about what makes a man. I just want to play vidya and lock myself in an ivory tower and not have to work because people are dumb and mean and women are crazy.
Political views don't fucking matter lmfao. All that matters is if you're hot or not. You can literally worship Hitler openly and still get a pass if you're attractive enough.
If being left-wing is so masculine, why won't liberal-
OP thinks liberals are left wing lmao
why won't liberal women sleep with liberal men?
As if there isn't a round table discussion of red-faced hogs and pick-me's on Fox News every week bitching about how liberal women are literally the devil for saying they would never date conservative men lmao
US liberals want to better the lives of minorities and regulate businesses more. How are they not left-wing? You don't have to be a communist to be called a leftie, you know?
Yes, but it is a spectrum, isn't it? Liberals want some social policies, like universal healthcare, but not a command economy or the abolishment of private property.
European liberals, who are center-right, want similar things, but they're more pro-corporations than US liberals. They're like moderate US libertarians. They don't want ancap shit.
I think sending troops overseas for corperate interests put them on the right wing. So i guess we will have to do a libs favorite thing and compromise, lets say they are a center party not left OR right
US liberals are only left-wing if you ignore the rest of the civilized world's politics. The Overton window is just skewed so far right that liberals get called left-wing here, when they're moderate at best. The fact they still support capitalism and gun bans, while also opposing ranked choice voting and universal Healthcare, those are antithetical to American left-wing ideals
Being left-wing should be about reducing wealth-inequality, helping your countrymen who are worse off than you, and improving public services like education, healthcare and policing.
Be honest. When has that been a part of political discourase in The last 10 years? Exactly, never, for all intents and matters being left doesnt mean that.
If that were true it’d be balanced out by the systemic labelling of everything left of centre-right as ‘communism’ by right-wing power brokers.
When you compare important people making real decisions, there are far more examples of false ‘commie’ labels from the right than there would be false ‘fash’ labels from the left.
And that is a huge sticking point for The right that some people cant accept, despite being more inclined to The right. The diference is The One on The left is far more publicized, but they are both as unatractive to possible "recruits".
You're right that there are plenty of right-wingers that call anything left of center communism. I don't agree with that either. The reality is though, calling someone a nazi is far more slanderous than calling someone a communist. Wanting to try a communist system isn't a horrible idea like nazism is.
Yeah this is a weird American thing, I guess because you aren't in Europe, and so "nazi" carries less weight.
Having said that, considering your current president is going after the media, lawyers and education institutions - which is a direct attack on democracy - it really doesn't seem too extreme at the moment.
Ok? I'm just saying it's common in America, but not really where I live. Not to mention American culture spreads abroad anyway - I've seen people talking about "the libs" in my country, when that's not how people normally refer to the left here.
The prevalence of this rhetoric is super imbalanced in the real world though, it’d take you months or years to comb through clips of Trump falsely labelling things as communist or ‘radical left’.
Like, I don’t disagree that using Hitler as a blunt rhetorical device isn’t a sound strategy, but when you try to draw attention to very real parallels, names like Mussolini or Franco don’t have the same recognition as Hitler, even if they may be cleaner comparisons at times.
All I’m trying to say is that I disagree that this rhetoric had a lot to do with the Dems losing. There are loads of factors and I’d be surprised if it’s in the top 50. If it did create backlash, you’d see an (at least somewhat) mirrored effect on the right, but you don’t.
Being left-wing should be about reducing wealth-inequality, helping your countrymen who are worse off than you, and improving public services like education, healthcare and policing.
That is actually what it's about, but since you have your head stuck on in the digital clouds you believe inane horseshit.
If that's all it were about, Trump wouldn't have won a second term. Easy to write off legitimate concerns as 'digital' isn't it? Wake up and smell the coffee, kid.
At this point, when rhetoric like saying that certain demographics are “poisoning the nations blood” in America, the German AfD’s thinly veiled xenophobia and Musks “Roman” salute, progressives calling their opponents Nazis becomes less and less weightless
We are at the point in history where you can have a guy do a literal nazi salute on live TV twice and still reddit comments will say "well we can't be calling everyone a nazi now, it will reduce the weight of the word!"
Oh, is that why conservative men are complaining about liberals not associating with them anymore, claiming they’re “not into politics” on dating apps to hide their politics, and are raging about a “male loneliness epidemic”?
Only thing ik is that once I got out of HS,left manosphere adjacent ideas and talking points I got more coochie than ik what to do with. Turns out that having a simple understanding of feminism is actually a cheat code. If you listen to women they’ll like you, they fall for it every time.
Right-wing closets are fit to bursting with men who are afraid to live their lives authentically. The ideology will never truly accept deviation, so the name of the game is 'hide and hope they never find out who you really are'.
Meanwhile, men who dress in women's clothes and present themselves as feminine do so in a world where such action invites violence and confrontation. They do it anyway.
Rejecting your true self in the name of conformity is weak. Authenticity in spite of pushback and violence is strong.
To deny will always be one of the rights most disgusting failures.
This is pretty funny but there’s a whole large demographic of liberal women that won’t give a trump voter/supporter a chance, you could find a compilation of dating show clips where everything is going great until the girl asks the guy who they voted for
just a reminder that 55% of sexual assault cases are in the victim's home (by someone they know) and trans people are 4 times more likely to be assaulted than cis people (both sexual and otherwise)
If traditional men aren't insecure incels why would they support any laws that would FORCE woman to stay in their their unfuckable presence?
Lower salary for woman so they are dependant on them to survive? Prohibit abortions so they can't leave. Push them to have as many babies as possible so they can't have their own lives.
You have to be such a loser, such an unfuckable blob to support that world view. lol
For anyone who downvote this, I got better. I learned how to get woman, no need for lots of money and a six pack, be a secure respectful person with hobbies and barebones social skills.
The label “masculine” or “feminine” isn’t normative, it’s descriptive. They’re terms term we use to categorize the many qualities typically associated with either men or women. Women who hate male Trump supporters don’t hate them because they think liking Trump is effeminate and men shouldn’t be effeminate. Women who don’t like wimpy liberal guys don’t dislike them because they think feminine equals bad, it’s because there’s some overlap between “feminine” and “manbaby” traits.
PomegranateHot9916@reddit
I don't care who you are, that last comment was hilarious
Infuser@reddit
Not half as funny as the Grindr stats from CPAC or the RNC.
Odinskriger@reddit
What's this referring to?
PomegranateHot9916@reddit
those statistics are as funny as they are sad
Zoltanu@reddit
I gotta say, im really jealous of my gay friends sex lives. We went on a guys trip to Vegas and our gay friend got laid every night (by us of course)
PomegranateHot9916@reddit
bro wth, "what happens in vegas stays in vegas" and here you go talking
DokeyOakey@reddit
I think you have a poor grasp of “Hilarious”; that’s grade 6 banter from 1976.
InterestingFig7375@reddit
DokeyOakey@reddit
That’s at least funny.
InterestingFig7375@reddit
Not a joke, genuine question.
DokeyOakey@reddit
Not a good insult. Your ragebait lacks finesse and reveals your juvenility. Chew on that for awhile.
AFallingWall@reddit
This you?
DokeyOakey@reddit
My comment is actually the person who I was responding to comment so let’s ask u/InterestingFig7375 .
InterestingFig7375@reddit
Yes, that is you.
DokeyOakey@reddit
Nice self own.
InterestingFig7375@reddit
Also when you said "let's ask (username) that means you're asking for a second opinion on his question. Not if this is me. Your English skills are appalling.
DokeyOakey@reddit
U
InterestingFig7375@reddit
Also that wasn't my comment. You changed a word and made it your own you illiterate bastard. Notice how you get all the downvotes and I dont? That's called a ratio buddy. You've already lost.
InterestingFig7375@reddit
Not talking about myself. You. Re-read and retake second grade english bud.
InterestingFig7375@reddit
Its hilarious how you had to go through my comments on a different post and change 1 word to try and make my insult your own. I'm flattered really but you should genuinely get tested because you might qualify for disability at this rate you utter nincompoop.
Whitespider331@reddit
Not really
Manskewer@reddit
You’ve got nothing going on upstairs
Prestigious_Slice709@reddit
It‘s amazingly uncreative and not very smart
ApXv@reddit
Go back to r/humor
Prestigious_Slice709@reddit
That‘s exactly where I‘d expect to find such a joke. Extremely repetitive and no real punchline.
Umtks892@reddit
Definitely can be used as a punch line.
NighthawK1911@reddit
pfft.
conservative men are literally hiding their political leanings while dating and a lot of them that push for tradwife later on gets divorced.
Alkeryn@reddit
nice strawman, this hasn't been the case for most of the guys i know.
CamBaren@reddit
Every woman I know hates conservative men. That’s likely due to your social circle.
Alkeryn@reddit
That says more about yours than mine.
Most woman i know do not care, then some prefer conservatives others liberals.
If every woman you know hates them I'm sorry but you are in an echo chamber.
CamBaren@reddit
It’s not so much an echo chamber as it is surrounding myself with like minded people. I don’t have any interest in spending time with people who are okay with erasing trans people or throwing legal immigrants into the back of an unmarked van. And I’d also prefer to spend my time with people who aren’t uneducated and extremely outclassed in mental spaces, which excludes most conservatives.
NighthawK1911@reddit
nice anecdotal evidence. Try visiting TwoXChromosomes and see how often this actually happens.
johnnymiguel10@reddit
Lmao you cite that subreddit as your source of truth? You’re a fucking moron
BigBoogieWoogieOogie@reddit
"HA have you considered what my INCEL subreddit has to say on this topic?!"
Nice try bro, how embarrassing, go outside.
qywuwuquq@reddit
All women only go after is 6'5 bazillionare chads!!!
Source: r/incel
Alkeryn@reddit
literally what ?
seems like a reddit echo chamber lmao.
also, annecdotal evidence can absolutely be used against another annecdotal evidence.
and LOTS of annecdotal evidence are worth something.
but reddit is an echo chamber that actively ban things that goes against the echo chamber.
GreenRiot@reddit
Lots of people told me your anecdotal evidence is bogus...
Also you are in an other ecochamber who tries to ban everything that goes against your argument.
See? Anyone can do that. We can debate to the end of time saying "but I don't think so" to each other.
Evidence, do you have it? It's fine if you don't i don't carry a briefcase with scientific papers around. But I don't go around spouting my opinion as a fact, because I don't understand how reasoning works.
I tend to not argue about things that I don't know. Which are many things.
Alkeryn@reddit
nah, i believe nothing should be banned, you don't know me or what i supposedly am "in".
> Evidence, do you have it.
an argument without evidence can be discarded without evidence, i do not need to provide any evidence as the original claim didn't either.
i'm not the one that started with an opinion.
the claim was :
> conservative men are literally hiding their political leanings
whilst true in many case, cannot be made into a generalisation.
as such, as there was no evidence that it was always the case or even frequent, the "i know someone" annecdote is just as strong if not stronger, as a witness testimony is a stronger evidence than nothing at all.
I know for a fact that some of my friends are conservative and have girlfriends.
I know for a fact that a lot of conservatives are in relationships.
and i also know for a fact that a lot of conservatives do not hide their political beliefs to their partners (including the friends i mentioned).
just like there are also tons of conservative women.
sure, there are conservatives that hide their political beliefs, and probably liberals too.
but you cannot claim it to be a general rule.
idk what sounds so crazy to you about this.
GreenRiot@reddit
I agree that nothing should be banned, but everyone who wants to speak up can't complain when people push back, lots of people use freedom of speech to be snowflakes when others react to what they say.
Doesn't matter who started the opinion, if you want to push an idea you are the one who have to be the one to show up evidence for it. "I heard a lot of opinions that agree with me" means nothing.
I was talking about using anecdotes to claim that if lots of people around you say something you can believe it to be true. And that old speel about reddit being some sort of liberal echo chamber where the only reason that some people catch flak for spouting political points is because the platform itself is against them.
But yeah I agree that, conservatives often have to hide that they see people from other groupsd around them as beneath them, because people often react badly to that kind of sociopathy. But lot's of them also doesn't hide their views because they like triggering people, or for lack of social skills.
NighthawK1911@reddit
maaaaybe just maybe you're just in a conservative echo chamber?
I don't have to guess. We have numbers from voting. We can see that there are more liberal women, so do the math.
I don't even think you have more anecdotal evidence. By all means you're more than welcome to go to TwoXChromosomes and do a poll or something. Or maybe point to a more conservative female centric sub? If you can even find one lol.
All you have right now is "because I said so". Quite a self out if I do say so myself. Did your tradwife file for divorce perchance?
Alkeryn@reddit
lmao, the irony.
reddit as a whole is a liberal echo chamber, there is no denying that.
yes there are also conservative echo chambers, but i'm neither of the two so what even is your point.
polls on reddit will always tend to be more liberal.
you are basically doing the equivalent of asking to do a poll on 4chan or twitter.
you can't get a good sample on any social networks, the only way to get good sample is asking random people outside in the real world, and even then it may be biased depending on the location you are asking people.
ie in switzerland the french speaking part is a lot more left leaning than the german speaking part.
and no, i'm not divorced, nor married for that matter, in the 4th year of a well going relationship, and she's definitely not a liberal, but i'd not say she's a conservative either, she mostly don't care about politics, like most people you'll find in the real world.
anyway, politics are way too complex to be represented by a single political compass.
and likewise you can agree with things from both side.
ie i have no issue against abortion but i'm also against mass immigration, those two opinions are typically left and right.
United_Iron369@reddit
>proof?
>here's this extremist subreddit, it says so!
mrbombasticals@reddit
“Heh. A leftist subreddit on le internet is my bastion of truth!”
sit down bro lmao anyone can write a revenge fantasy against a straw man
amazegamer64@reddit
The notion that liberal women don’t sleep with liberal men comes from an article where some leftist woman was complaining that liberal men aren’t masculine enough for her tastes.
CombinationCrazy1719@reddit
one (1) (self-proclaimed) leftist woman
dontcha_wanna_fanta@reddit
Boy they sure love wearing sheeps clothing when they can't seem to find any sheep that fit their narrative, don't they
sillyyun@reddit
Self proclaimed woman or self proclaimed leftist
Emilko62@reddit
I have another famous case, the revalation came to me in a dream. Would that be sufficient enough?
throwtheclownaway20@reddit
Conservatives literally consider that to be equal to peer-reviewed data.
Cheezeepants@reddit
tbf, if actual peer reviewed data isnt good enough for them, they have to settle for something
Altruistic-Local-541@reddit
actual peer reviewed data is hard to find though
TDoggy-Dog@reddit
Yeah, that’s why I make shit up, it’s way easier.
kjyfqr@reddit
Better than a full blown medical journal
paco-ramon@reddit
The vicepresident of Spain also said that, she also said that rich people are building fortress in New Zealand and the Metaverse while the rest of us rot in a crumbling planet.
ReverseShell1337@reddit
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29355104/
Sure, survey aggregates are a pretty poor way to prove my point, but healthy competition and the desire for social status, physical fitness and "strength" (physical and emotional) are all traits more likely to be found in more right leaning men, let's say. And of course, evolutionarily speaking those are the more desirable traits when you're picking for a partner.
Unfortunately the left has done nothing to help young men, or men's issues in general. It has also mistaken unequal outcomes with unequal opportunities, grabbing the chance to shame men whenever they can. Is it really difficult to see why their ideology tends to appeal to... A certain type of man?
ImTheZapper@reddit
Lol, lmao, even. For anyone who cares, feel free to see the major supporting demographics of conservatism in most developed nations.
Hint, its generally the older, rural folks. You know, the ones who come from the poorest educational backrounds, have higher per capita obesity rates, and vote for raging fucking psychopaths every election cycle.
ReverseShell1337@reddit
That's actually true. However, there's been a resurgence in younger men and women too, mostly young men who've come to realize the horrible world that the progressive left is offering them is, well, horrible for them as individuals and as a group.
My point still stands, since the dating pool of younger men aren't the old, conservative ones.
ImTheZapper@reddit
The only young group thats trended in any way towards conservatism is young men, and basically only white ones in the west. Young women have totally swung the other way, for obvious reasons.
You are simply arguing that far too many people are ignorant and have no fucking clue how the world around them works, so they direct that ignorance at scapegoats and latch on to total idiots who validate them.
This isn't a new trend in the slightest, its nowhere near the first time in recorded history that people brand themselves as "strong men" and take advantage of young, impressionable men to further themselves to the detriment of those young men.
fiftiethcow@reddit
Didnt almost every single county in America move to the right last election?
JuicyBeefBiggestBeef@reddit
No? Less people voted for the Democrats, meaning the point shift was just less Left-leaning people voting over a rightward shuft
zrezzif@reddit
Hey, let’s not forget Koreans who seem to be trying to do sexism like a competitive sport. But jokes aside, yeah. Even in places like Iran and South America, the young men are trending more progressive or at least a lot more secular.
bad_gaming_chair_@reddit
Btw even in Korea they elected a leftist president. He isn't any good and seems to like NK a bit too much but my point stands
GreekLumberjack@reddit
The south still considers them one country IIRC. Reunification just gets harder and harder as the years pass thoufh
zrezzif@reddit
Vote split is still shows a big gender divide for Gen Z Koreans, the only reason why the leftist won is because the other guy try to pull a coup and in most places that’s a massive disqualifier for most people even if they don’t agree with the other guys politics
Dry_Confidence_9202@reddit
Are you kidding?
Come to Brussels and see who are the most conservative men. Muslims or white guys.
USA isn't the World and the media in Europe love to chastise white people but seem oblivious that most harassment on the streets are done by guys of northern African decent. See: "Femmes de la rue" doc.
I'm a socialist but I am not blind. We are going back in Europe because of progressives getting their heads done in Universities.
Just like what happens in Gaza is a tragedy. But antizionism is bordering more and more to antisemitism.
multipurpoise@reddit
Bruh, your comment history reads like the livejournal of a 14 year old edgelord incel.
You should go outside sometime and talk to people.
But like...not women. Please leave them be, for their safety.
ReverseShell1337@reddit
I do talk to women, had my second year anniversary few weeks ago. I got into one of the best universities in my country while you're struggling with sobriety. I know it's probably hard to believe me since yeah, I do sound weird online but I'm laughing seeing all the replies from people trying to attack my character
JuicyBeefBiggestBeef@reddit
Nice, nice
Now how about you post the Navy Seal copypasta, it's about as believable lmao
TheCrzy1@reddit
Tell her that I feel really sorry for her.
fiftiethcow@reddit
She doesnt care what you think
TheCrzy1@reddit
Lol are you their bull?
fiftiethcow@reddit
You sound overweight
vex0rrr@reddit
I actually find that rightward trend of young men, at least in gen z, to be due to an influx of shortform content pushing narratives for engagement. Those I know on that trend usually get their info from TikTok or Instagram or manosphere content or other mills, but that's just me.
bad_gaming_chair_@reddit
Yep I'm actually horrified how many right leaning people in my age group get their political opinions from the likes of Jordan Peterson and Charlie Kirk.
And then they proceed to claim leftists are the ones that worship celebrities
Geekerino@reddit
I mean, I don't see the GOP paying Jordan Peterson millions to twerk at their rallies
bad_gaming_chair_@reddit
I assure you no leftie gets their political values from Megan the stallion or JLO. But the amount of people who do from right wing influencers is too goddamn high
Geekerino@reddit
I'd argue that comes down more to the type of celebrity you're dealing with. Like it or not, the big name celebrities like JLo and MTS don't hold nearly as much sway over the public as they would 20 years ago. The new thing is podcasters, because it's easier to empathize with them in the conversational format they're known for. Their political opinions get popular because they're discussed like a conversation, or presented like one, so they may be taken more seriously
icabax@reddit
Ah yes, young emotional 14 year olds, the strongest physically and emotionally
Mallixx@reddit
Healthcare for all, a living wage, and actually being able to watch porn. Damn. What a hellscape for young men
icabax@reddit
I know, that's why, as a young man I am going to vote to remove those, I don't care if I get fucked over and starve due to no living wage, and a predatory healthcare system, as long as the woman who rejected me is also fucked
marcodol@reddit
You were the one trying to start an argument lmfao
Soldier_of_l0ve@reddit
It’s sad musk and trump has emboldened neet incels to think their opinion matters
emrednz07@reddit
The comment history doesn't surprise at all for some reason
OCE_Mythical@reddit
person doesn't agree with my bullshit "why are there so many soyjaks here?"
Eianarr@reddit
When was the last time you like had casual sex? Or a ling term / shorts term partner? Or flirted?
new_KRIEG@reddit
Bro, the right wing dating app literally failed because there were no women using it.
Turns out that women don't wanna date people that want to take away their rights. You don't need your mental gymnastics to explain it
FireNicoNOW@reddit
You're right. They don't go outside
GreenRiot@reddit
Desire for strength, status and wealth doesn't translate into those things. it is very rare for men to "get wealth and status" because you are not meant to.
So most men will try to compensate by trying to be aggressive, expect and demand unearned respect.
Nothing shows insecurity and weakness more than men trying to be "tough", specially when they try to be all scientific and explain why logically according to evolution woman needs to desire them.
Loooots of woman are attracted to twinks, if strength translated in being the fittest we would be outclassed by neanderthals.
I used to be considered a playboy, with no career, 5/10 looks at the time, definetely not buff. The secret? I had social skills and could clumsily befriend anyone at a party. And I tried to befriend everyone I got to be with.
Tldr, men are naturally masculine most of times, and trying too hard will make you look like an insecure unfuckable wimp.
Drop the left, right mindgames, stop "trying" to be a men and just be whatever is natural, be a legit cool person.
ReverseShell1337@reddit
But on average, wanting something is gonna make you far more likely to get it. And just because you have low motivation or abilities doesn't mean everyone else can't work to get a little bit of it.
In my experience, they become sly assholes who find loopholes and kiss ass, cheating whenever they can. But usually those people aren't attractive nor necessarily right leaning/care about ideology.
Again, were talking about averages here, I never claimed it was a checklist or a guarantee and I'm fully aware of outliers and variation in desires
Again, AVERAGE. And neanderthal DNA did mix with humans semi-frequently. ~~For example, some people don't understand the concept of averages and make no effort to create an actual argument.~~
Because you got with women who mistook confidence with competence, who also didn't have any options or who screwed anyone.
Well here I very much agree with you, but I'm saying that men on the right are more likely to both have ideals and work towards them. That makes them more attractive than the fat acceptance, feminazi gender goblins who take no personal responsibility
GreenRiot@reddit
Sometimes what we want isn't what we need.
People who desire strengh, status, wealth often burnout to do things that'll make them look like they have those things.
But the strenght, status and wealth often doesn't fulfill what they need. Which is often validation, security, community.
I think that is the main cause for a lot of men's issues. What we've been tought to strive for won't give us what we need for a fulfilling life.
Yeah, we are generalizing. You have a point. You should look into interviews and pools about what woman find attractive in men.
They never say strenght. Like huge buff macho dudes, they do mostly like people who are slightly fit. And that are confident but without being overly competitive.
What we often think woman likes is mostly bogus.
Getting to know and date people isn't a job interview, as long as you can take care of yourself like an adult nobody is asking for a CV to verify how much "competent" you are.
Competency sure helps, but it's one of many criteria, just like, not being misoginist, being able to hold a conversation and e.t.c.
I agree that having ideals and working towards them is ultra valid. But where did you get that men on the left doesn't have them?
Like, let's drop the left/right bullshit for a sec, sure our ideals are different, but we push ourselves to not be just as good as our fathers, but to be better at things previous generations got absolutely wrong.
Also assuming that girls who would get with people you disagree didn't have options or was just hoes is such a jerk argument... you don't need to agree with me, but don't make a whole fanfiction in your head and speak it as it was true just because you imagined it.
Also... feminazi... this isn't gamergate, it's 2025, nobody wants you to stop being a man just don't be an asshole to woman and nobody will care enough about you to start an argument about gender.
SleepingPodOne@reddit
Imagine being under the age of 50 and saying Rush Limbaugh shit like this
Soldier_of_l0ve@reddit
Sounds like some Jordan Peterson bullshit
somany5s@reddit
And it was literally Charlie Kirk in a skirt
Mesarthim1349@reddit
No it's just mature adults who aren't chronically online don't care about their partner's political philosophy when they're just trying to hook up.
CamBaren@reddit
Yeah, actually normal people do care if you voted for somebody who wants to take away their rights, and is a convicted sex offender.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Nope.
They quite literally, in every sense of the word, do not.
Lol
CamBaren@reddit
Damn, you must just be surrounded by nobody with any actual moral fiber at all. That’s really sad.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
"Only people who vote for my team have moral fiber"
Tell that to the 90 million who didn't vote and the 80 million that voted for other people
CamBaren@reddit
I do. Often.
The entire Democratic Party can burn for all I care. This isn’t about “my side”
If you can support what’s going on, you have no moral fiber.
bitz12@reddit
most mature adults care a lot about politics, and actually don’t sacrifice their moral/political beliefs for quick sex
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Most actually don't give a shit about politics when they're in the mood for quick sex*
Fixed that for ya
GoGoSoLo@reddit
You are a top 1% commenter, on /r/greentext of all places, talking shit about redditors and needing to touch grass.
Lol, lmao even.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Like I said below. Night shift will do that to ya
Definitely don't recommend lol
But also yeah redditors deserve all the shit talk, 100%
meatpoise@reddit
Bud you have 200,000 comment karma, you are a certified redditor.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
That's what night shift does to mf
Alkeryn@reddit
only if you never leave reddit.
definitely not the case in the real world.
mrbombasticals@reddit
no they don’t, not every adult man and woman is a radical commie or Nazi that gets a hate boner when they see a position left or right of them. most people are trying to get by
Ck_shock@reddit
It's all about that tradwife till they realize they'll have to work like 3 jobs to afford a single i come household.
nitonitonii@reddit
Liberal men are drown in pssy just by being halg of a gentlemen.
You don't notice because they are not crying online 24/7.
kokokoko983@reddit
I was a mildly masculine centrist studying liberal arts, and quite a few very lefty women expressed their interest in me. The thing is, they were attracted to me because of the qualities that made me who I am politically, but not because of who I am politically.
They were attracted to the vibe, but hoping it's somehow combined with progressive politics.
SenorEquilibrado@reddit
There are attractive people throughout the political spectrum (both physically, and the vibe).
It's more that being a garbage human being (eg: wanting to strip women of bodily autonomy, simping for billionaires when you're working class) is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
dbot25454@reddit
You sound like a dork
TheChaosPaladin@reddit
TheNewOldHobbyist@reddit
That’s the irreligious right wingers who don’t date in Christian circles.
TheChaosPaladin@reddit
There is one side pushing for outlawing divorce and birth control and it is not liberals.
Confirmation_Code@reddit
It does disgust me when "pro-life" men sleep with pro-choice women
Talkingmice@reddit
I know right?
They will “casually” drop something like “I support women’s rights” and then expect sex in return
PsychodelicTea@reddit
Source: my anus
Legitimate-Kick8427@reddit
If liberal women don't sleep with liberal men why do conservatives lie about thier political beliefs.
M116Fullbore@reddit
Conservative men lie/hide because they are desperate to get with liberal women. The reverse is just not a thing, liberal men arent out there lying to try and get withconservative women.
edgy_zero@reddit
cons men who feel the need to lie about the political believes wouldnt get laid anyways… so nothing changes
Well-Rounded-@reddit
Well to be devils advocate, on the extreme left, all people on the right are demonized and called Nazi’s and so they won’t date them for political reasons. I don’t see that as often on the right, usually just religious stuff.
In my personal viewpoint, the right doesn’t care as much about the politics as the left does, and will hide or undermine their own beliefs if it benefits them to get something more important.
Of course you can always just be a genuine moderate with beliefs on both sides of the aisle but that’s dying
Legitimate-Kick8427@reddit
If you want to have a discussion say your belief with your chest out. Advocating for the devil is to help prepare for debate not to hide your true beliefs.
Well-Rounded-@reddit
Ah I’m not really hiding anything, liberal women care about it a lot.
See, if the conservative men hiding their beliefs cared equally about said beliefs, they wouldn’t hide them. It would be a dealbreaker for them just as much as for the women. The cons men who hide it don’t see it as a dealbreaker like the women do, so, logically, the women care a lot more about politics
Legitimate-Kick8427@reddit
Not hiding? Why bother saying to be devils advocate? Why not simply say you think it is ok for people to lie to thier parents? Also if conservative men didn't care why wouldn't they change thier beliefs? Also if conservative men didn't see it as a deal breaker why do they support the save act to take away thier wives right to vote?
amazegamer64@reddit
According to leftists, right wing men get no pussy. According to rightists, left wing men get no pussy. Which one is correct?
Revangelion@reddit
Asking for a friend.
Ndnfndkfk@reddit
neither because the world isn’t black and white but nuance has been all but lost on the internet
amazegamer64@reddit
The only one in this comment section who gets it. “You get no bitches” is an insult a middle schooler falls back on when they have no arguments
ISG4@reddit
"You get no bitches"
"You reek of AIDS"
MikeGianella@reddit
Nobody's got AIDS!
crimsonfukr457@reddit
Catching or pitching?
Judasz10@reddit
Some people have nothing going on in their lives so they pick the most random things to brag about.
Majority of people have sex. It's like flexing the fact that you aint starving. Like, okay? Good for you I guess lol.
affinixmusic@reddit
Shit so I'm actually starving when it comes to sex, fucking sucks
Econmajorhere@reddit
Not really when an entire election took place because incels felt the current cultural trends weren’t getting their dick wet. “Get no bitches” is a quite serious phenomenon in US and has major impact on the political conversations.
J0lteoff@reddit
The one that doesn't need to put "not into politics" in their dating profiles
xxMystic@reddit
Either/or fallacies are rampant everywhere nowadays.
overgamer1@reddit
Anyone talking about others getting no pussy, so most of this comment section. For leftist girls you just have to not like trump these days, which should be a given and for right wings you just need to buy them a pack of cigarettes
Zoltanu@reddit
* Zyns
NighthawK1911@reddit
Well, there is a gender gap in the voting preferences from Men and Women for decades now, with women leaning on the liberal side. So take from that with what you will.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
That's only from the portion of people that actually vote.
Including millions who are too old to be in the dating scene.
FunnyP-aradox@reddit
Actually the disparity is almost only among younger people, so exactly the demographic that vote AND date
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Young people vote less than old
FunnyP-aradox@reddit
But they still have ideas, and they date more than old
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Yes
CaptainHindsight92@reddit
I mean it is a spectrum, on the far left, approaching a fellow lefty at a just stop protest is probably an abuse of power, given that you are an organiser and have a lot of power. Hippies, though they are dropping acid and exploring polygamy with their friend's life partner. On the far right, that ultra-conservative Christian isn't going to face damnation and the fires of hell for some hanky panky. Hicks on the other hand will fuck for half a can of bud light after a trump rally. Swings and roundabouts.
Infuser@reddit
Unless it is gay. Then they’ll go all the way to the airport for it
Taco-Edge@reddit
Don't get the facts mixed up. One party is known for always lying and projecting, the other has data backing up their claim instead of cherry picking one case that fits their narrative. Who do you think is right? MAGA has ALWAYS been unpopular among women, and tbh no self respecting lady would vote for someone who is actively trying to remove their rights, let alone would fuck them.
GreekLumberjack@reddit
Both, no one on PCM is getting pussy
Crxshin@reddit
Both because they are fucking eachother in the ass
Econmajorhere@reddit
Lived in a major city with annoying feminists. Major city was surrounded by conservative farmland. Took trips outside the city often. Saw the average conservative woman (hint: they don’t look like Fox News anchors). And always felt happy (but annoyed) coming back to the feminists.
Getting pussy is never the difficult part. Getting a pussy that doesn’t come with 300lbs draped in Walmart fashion infused with the scent of burgers and fertilizer- that’s where most men have difficulty.
itay162@reddit
Both (we are all unbelievably cooked)
jjkm7@reddit
Not saying anyone who doesn’t have sex is an incel, bur aren’t actual incels more likely to be right wing leaning? And also, right wing women are always going to heavily favour right leaning men and despite what this post says left leaning women prefer left leaning men. But aren’t there much more left leaning women than right leaning women? I think using that logic right wing men are more likely to not get pussy
jjkm7@reddit
Nobody is getting pussy
zrezzif@reddit
To be fair, right wing men are complaining that they had to hide their political views. I don’t see left wing men having to do that, so there is at least that
heqra@reddit
many many women outright wont date/fuck right wingers, and all right wing dating apps are just full of men.
one side wants em to have rights, choices etc and sees them as equals, one doesnt. who do you think they wanna fuck?
PlzBuffCenturion@reddit
Well considering conservative guys are hiding their political views to get with girls, it's certainly one of them
_Tal@reddit
The leftists
Lahoura@reddit
Left and right don't mean shit. Complaining about lack of pussy is why they aren't getting any
Number-1Dad@reddit
Not that it's conclusive or anything, but there was an attempt to make a right wing dating app that failed because no women signed up for it. So there's that.
Confirmation_Code@reddit
Neither! Hey everybody, we're all gonna get laid!
kokokoko983@reddit
I'm a centrist who studied liberal arts (so right-wing in comparison to everybody else there), and I was quite popular with some women, but I think it's because of the vibe. They would like a progressive with a centrist/conservative vibe. The attraction wasn't because of my views but despite them.
paco-ramon@reddit
Reddit is a very left wing place and men are still complaining about lack of pussy. So I think no men gets enough.
Sec_Chief_Blanchard@reddit
I think that's just because they're on reddit
Dadaman3000@reddit
Likely no correlation either way.
seandoesntsleep@reddit
Check each groups dating profiles...
All profiles say they are left wing...
I think we have our answer.
Uncle480@reddit
Remember, sleeping with women is gay. What is a vagina designed for? Penis. You're literally putting your dick inside where another penis is supposed to go. That's practically docking. That's gay.
Sleeping with a man though? 100% straight. That man's butt isn't designed for penis. Ain't no chance of docking in that station.
gbuub@reddit
See, when you go to prison, the most important thing in your life is gonna be booty. A man's butt. Booty, getting some booty is more important than eating food, it's more important than drinking water.
Courtenaire@reddit
Now when I sees a man I likes, I go up and say 'I likes ya, and I wants ya. What's it gonna be, the easy way, or the hard way? Choice is yours"
PowerofMoses@reddit
Eating a girl out means frenching every penis she’s ever taken. But sucking a man off? Straightest thing you can do.
runswithclippers@reddit
FELLAS! IS IT GAY TO HAVE A PENIS? I MEAN YOU LITERALLY HAVE A MAN’S TOOL ATTACHED TO YOU!
DaRealKovi@reddit
Another great argument is that women love men, which is gay. Therefore, dating women is quite deep into the danger zone.
Men love women, which is straight.
Old-Implement-6252@reddit
Isn't it well-known that conservatives have to hide their politics to get laid?
Anluine@reddit
Can't men just be men?
Coakis@reddit
I just want to be left the fuck alone.
DaRealKovi@reddit
I just want to grill
Meowmixer21@reddit
Hell yeah, brother!
Just need a grill, some burgers and dogs, and a 12 pack
SgtRinzler@reddit
Swap the dogs for brats, hot dogs suck haha
Meowmixer21@reddit
Most American thing to put on the grill beside burgers 🇺🇸🦅
zoltar_thunder@reddit
Get a sweet potato and wrap it in aluminum foil with some butter and throw it in the hot coals
CamBaren@reddit
Just get off the internet, and stop crying.
MikeGianella@reddit
I do not care about what makes a man. I just want to play vidya and lock myself in an ivory tower and not have to work because people are dumb and mean and women are crazy.
PaulieHehehe@reddit
Based.
Absolutemehguy@reddit
That's TOXIC, sweaty!
Judasz10@reddit
Bro is figthing his imagination
Mr-Stuff-Doer@reddit
Yall have been copypasting this person for a literal decade lmao
wolphak@reddit
Either way we don't listen to women.
CacklettasMinion@reddit
Not just the men, but the women, and the children
Low-Possibility-7060@reddit
Unfortunately there is an executive order that makes us all female.
Yeseylon@reddit
The women are men. The children are men. The men, of course, are men.
Last_Gift3597@reddit
Political views don't fucking matter lmfao. All that matters is if you're hot or not. You can literally worship Hitler openly and still get a pass if you're attractive enough.
ZenPyx@reddit
Do you think an alt-right hot guy would have more or less success with women than an apolitical hot guy?
seandoesntsleep@reddit
Yea but you can be average with good beliefs and get laid. You absolutely cant go to klan meetings AND get laid if you are average.
xemanhunter@reddit
OP thinks liberals are left wing lmao
As if there isn't a round table discussion of red-faced hogs and pick-me's on Fox News every week bitching about how liberal women are literally the devil for saying they would never date conservative men lmao
Tourqon@reddit
US liberals want to better the lives of minorities and regulate businesses more. How are they not left-wing? You don't have to be a communist to be called a leftie, you know?
awesomedude4100@reddit
the literal definition of left and right wing is left=socialism and right=capitalism. It’s why the terms were invented in the first place.
Tourqon@reddit
Yes, but it is a spectrum, isn't it? Liberals want some social policies, like universal healthcare, but not a command economy or the abolishment of private property.
European liberals, who are center-right, want similar things, but they're more pro-corporations than US liberals. They're like moderate US libertarians. They don't want ancap shit.
awesomedude4100@reddit
yea, liberals fall on a spectrum on the right wing.
Tourqon@reddit
I disagree. I think advocating for social policies like universal healthcare, progressive taxation, etc. puts liberals on the left.
This applies specifically to US liberals, beause the word changed meaning over time. In Europe it still largely refers to right-wing libs.
In my mind liberal = SocDem
seandoesntsleep@reddit
I think sending troops overseas for corperate interests put them on the right wing. So i guess we will have to do a libs favorite thing and compromise, lets say they are a center party not left OR right
xemanhunter@reddit
US liberals are only left-wing if you ignore the rest of the civilized world's politics. The Overton window is just skewed so far right that liberals get called left-wing here, when they're moderate at best. The fact they still support capitalism and gun bans, while also opposing ranked choice voting and universal Healthcare, those are antithetical to American left-wing ideals
Mister_Taco_Oz@reddit
Masculine men are Aragon from Lord of the Rings
Zoltanu@reddit
I just think "what would Goku do?"
rancidfart86@reddit
So real
ChrisNihilus@reddit
>penta 6
Some unholy truth is about to be dispensed
lewistinethecunt@reddit
The same reason they won’t sleep with you they tell their deepest beliefs on day 1
Jujubees1269@reddit
Masculine men are self-aware enough to understand reality and dont participate in delusions.
SnipSnopWobbleTop@reddit
To be fair, all of the conservative men are sleeping with both conservative and liberal men.
beansahol@reddit
This is why the left loss, it's genuinely batshit insane when people spew this shit. And reddit is an absolute hive for it.
SoupaMayo@reddit
Oh boy, I have good news to you
Black_Diammond@reddit
Be honest. When has that been a part of political discourase in The last 10 years? Exactly, never, for all intents and matters being left doesnt mean that.
SoupaMayo@reddit
in my country ? always. in your country ? I dont even know what is it and it seems to be a sad place
meatpoise@reddit
If that were true it’d be balanced out by the systemic labelling of everything left of centre-right as ‘communism’ by right-wing power brokers.
When you compare important people making real decisions, there are far more examples of false ‘commie’ labels from the right than there would be false ‘fash’ labels from the left.
Black_Diammond@reddit
And that is a huge sticking point for The right that some people cant accept, despite being more inclined to The right. The diference is The One on The left is far more publicized, but they are both as unatractive to possible "recruits".
beansahol@reddit
You're right that there are plenty of right-wingers that call anything left of center communism. I don't agree with that either. The reality is though, calling someone a nazi is far more slanderous than calling someone a communist. Wanting to try a communist system isn't a horrible idea like nazism is.
BadgerMolester@reddit
Yeah this is a weird American thing, I guess because you aren't in Europe, and so "nazi" carries less weight.
Having said that, considering your current president is going after the media, lawyers and education institutions - which is a direct attack on democracy - it really doesn't seem too extreme at the moment.
beansahol@reddit
I'm not American
BadgerMolester@reddit
Ok? I'm just saying it's common in America, but not really where I live. Not to mention American culture spreads abroad anyway - I've seen people talking about "the libs" in my country, when that's not how people normally refer to the left here.
meatpoise@reddit
The prevalence of this rhetoric is super imbalanced in the real world though, it’d take you months or years to comb through clips of Trump falsely labelling things as communist or ‘radical left’.
Like, I don’t disagree that using Hitler as a blunt rhetorical device isn’t a sound strategy, but when you try to draw attention to very real parallels, names like Mussolini or Franco don’t have the same recognition as Hitler, even if they may be cleaner comparisons at times.
All I’m trying to say is that I disagree that this rhetoric had a lot to do with the Dems losing. There are loads of factors and I’d be surprised if it’s in the top 50. If it did create backlash, you’d see an (at least somewhat) mirrored effect on the right, but you don’t.
TheCrzy1@reddit
That is actually what it's about, but since you have your head stuck on in the digital clouds you believe inane horseshit.
beansahol@reddit
If that's all it were about, Trump wouldn't have won a second term. Easy to write off legitimate concerns as 'digital' isn't it? Wake up and smell the coffee, kid.
TheCrzy1@reddit
I mean, Elon DID just admit to voter fraud...
rancidfart86@reddit
At this point, when rhetoric like saying that certain demographics are “poisoning the nations blood” in America, the German AfD’s thinly veiled xenophobia and Musks “Roman” salute, progressives calling their opponents Nazis becomes less and less weightless
IamWatchingAoT@reddit
We are at the point in history where you can have a guy do a literal nazi salute on live TV twice and still reddit comments will say "well we can't be calling everyone a nazi now, it will reduce the weight of the word!"
Smellybrow@reddit
Brother, where the fuck did you read that?
contemptuous_curr@reddit
Masculine men don't cry over pronouns but the liberal men do ALOT.
rancidfart86@reddit
Conservatives don’t cry over pronouns? Lmao
They do it all the time
Black_Diammond@reddit
I mean, they cry about it, but left wing men usually Kill themselves about it. So who really has The worst outburst.
contemptuous_curr@reddit
Conservatives when you ask them to use incorrect pronouns: "😐🤨No."
Liberals when you use their correct pronouns: "Oh my god YOU HORRIBLE 😭😭😭😭"
rancidfart86@reddit
Yeah dude that’s not how it usually goes.
contemptuous_curr@reddit
Never seen it not happen that way
awesomedude4100@reddit
conservative men when pronoun options exist
contemptuous_curr@reddit
Not a single conservative I've ever met ever gave a shit about me using whatever pronouns I feel like to describe someone
Pikkuraila@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ9_VDbj-o4
contemptuous_curr@reddit
Oh look count three people crying about pronouns so far, let's see how many we get
CombinationCrazy1719@reddit
...from a image board where right-wing men complain about getting no women and write gay fantasy all day.
Black_Diammond@reddit
...he Said From a image board where left-wing men complain about getting no women and write gay fantasy all day.
KhadgarIsaDreadlord@reddit
I can't imagine a more emasculating thing that taking a woman's advice on masculinity.
rancidfart86@reddit
Women do appreciate masculinity, though
reanimaniac@reddit
Yes, and true masculinity includes not letting social pressure dictate your beliefs or ideals.
KhadgarIsaDreadlord@reddit
And men appreciate feminity. Doesn't mean they understand it or have any right to dictate it.
reanimaniac@reddit
Exactly, imagine letting a woman tell you what it means to be a man.
Vivid-Smell-6375@reddit
This is unironically the greatest cope thread I've ever seen on this platform
drewmana@reddit
Liberal women won’t sleep with liberal men?
Oh, is that why conservative men are complaining about liberals not associating with them anymore, claiming they’re “not into politics” on dating apps to hide their politics, and are raging about a “male loneliness epidemic”?
user1joja@reddit
Only thing ik is that once I got out of HS,left manosphere adjacent ideas and talking points I got more coochie than ik what to do with. Turns out that having a simple understanding of feminism is actually a cheat code. If you listen to women they’ll like you, they fall for it every time.
Ryaniseplin@reddit
liberal women do sleep with liberal men
dont project your undatableness
KwintenDops@reddit
4Chan cannot even distinguish the difference between leftism and liberalism
EvieOhMy@reddit
Masculine men are communists who spread class consciousness to others
Paco_gc@reddit
Ah yes... nothing Sexier than a closed mind, traditionalism and talking about religion every other minute
spiffybritboi@reddit
It's funny to me that the American voter thinks the first 3 and last 3 only applies to people that vote for the other party
Your whole county worships billionaires, yes you too
SBARTOSZ@reddit
Shall I post the cat again
Corbotron_5@reddit
A true blue Republican alpha male will rape those kids wherever he damn well pleases. 🇺🇸🦅 🇺🇸
MortalAlpha6@reddit
People with brains will not dictate what a man has to be to meet the expectations of anyone else
guffers_hump@reddit
Liberal isn't left wing anyway
SoupaMayo@reddit
Both are low quality ragebait
Naiveee@reddit
Men don't let randoms on the internet define what it means to be manly (including this comment) :^)
TubbyFatfrick@reddit
>Anon doesn't like liberals
CthulhuCam@reddit
Lefties get laid plenty more than cons. They’re CONservatives, it’s literally in the name.
PleasantVanilla@reddit
Right-wing closets are fit to bursting with men who are afraid to live their lives authentically. The ideology will never truly accept deviation, so the name of the game is 'hide and hope they never find out who you really are'.
Meanwhile, men who dress in women's clothes and present themselves as feminine do so in a world where such action invites violence and confrontation. They do it anyway.
Rejecting your true self in the name of conformity is weak. Authenticity in spite of pushback and violence is strong.
To deny will always be one of the rights most disgusting failures.
wordjedi@reddit
left, right idc as long as not phatt
jjkm7@reddit
This is pretty funny but there’s a whole large demographic of liberal women that won’t give a trump voter/supporter a chance, you could find a compilation of dating show clips where everything is going great until the girl asks the guy who they voted for
Silence_1444@reddit
can we just go back to hating on degens for what they are and not for what "camp" they belong to? both anon and that twitter whateverthefuck suck.
Wantitneeditgetit@reddit
Yeah but the Alt-right has become full degen so . . . .
TrebuchetTaxiService@reddit
WoolooOfWallStreet@reddit
Well, anon got quints so I guess everyone needs hear him out
Where’s that “silence a racist schizophrenic is speaking” image?
Dilly_The_Kid_S373@reddit
Yet Republicans on Grindr crash the servers in whatever city is holding the RNC whenever it's in town.
Teknicsrx7@reddit
Masculine men don’t let others determine what makes them a man
Fuhrious520@reddit
Masculine men are woke
Wiitard@reddit
Dumb fucking take, liberal women sleep with liberal men all the fucking time. It’s conservative men who can’t ever get any.
305StonehillDeadbody@reddit
Sounds like cope.
mcj1ggl3@reddit
Women never ask me who I voted for before they let me hit. The answer is and always will be just whether or not they find you attractive.
uni-zombie@reddit
Liberal women are the easiest 1 night stands
Wiitard@reddit
How would you know?
uni-zombie@reddit
Tinder
Q_dawgg@reddit
It’s just two autistic men on the internet
IamWatchingAoT@reddit
Rape is only a problem to be solved when minorities do it
GodIsAWomaniser@reddit
The FBI psychological operations agent speaking to the Russian psychological operations agent be like:
GoodlifeFOB@reddit
Nothing get chicks wetter than bitching about videogames not making you horny and other dudes having a bigger dick than yours. Completely delusional
No-Care6414@reddit
Some of these comments make me think anons frequent this sub without realising they are the butt of the jokes
sunburn95@reddit
These guys would have no clue who women sleep with
usctrojan18@reddit
As I Liberal Man I can confirm I do not sleep with liberal men, or women. I get no action. So, checkmate conservatives.
Laufreyja@reddit
just a reminder that 55% of sexual assault cases are in the victim's home (by someone they know) and trans people are 4 times more likely to be assaulted than cis people (both sexual and otherwise)
Cobaltorigin@reddit
Masculine men don't give a shit about labels.
sycoticGh057@reddit
You're all losers lmfao
irepress_my_emotions@reddit
As a 6'7 man, I agree (im 6'7)
apesstrongtogether24@reddit
Lotta copium in this thread.
GreenRiot@reddit
If traditional men aren't insecure incels why would they support any laws that would FORCE woman to stay in their their unfuckable presence?
Lower salary for woman so they are dependant on them to survive? Prohibit abortions so they can't leave. Push them to have as many babies as possible so they can't have their own lives.
You have to be such a loser, such an unfuckable blob to support that world view. lol
For anyone who downvote this, I got better. I learned how to get woman, no need for lots of money and a six pack, be a secure respectful person with hobbies and barebones social skills.
MyLifeIsAFrickingMes@reddit
Anon missed the point
Ok-Willingness742@reddit
Bro thinks that laws saying you can’t go into a certain room will stop someone that was gonna rape in a public area
liquidmccartney8@reddit
The label “masculine” or “feminine” isn’t normative, it’s descriptive. They’re terms term we use to categorize the many qualities typically associated with either men or women. Women who hate male Trump supporters don’t hate them because they think liking Trump is effeminate and men shouldn’t be effeminate. Women who don’t like wimpy liberal guys don’t dislike them because they think feminine equals bad, it’s because there’s some overlap between “feminine” and “manbaby” traits.
UntitledPixelArtitst@reddit
Holy shit satan really blesssed that last comment ID
Makiergrm@reddit
4channer talking about sleeping with someone like they ever saw boobies outside of nhentai
Ghostiestboi@reddit
Inb4 🔒
Minute-Weekend5234@reddit
Liberal women sleep with communists, and are then indoctrinated into communism. One blown out back at a time, boys
paco-ramon@reddit
This has “Whites dudes for Kamala” energy.
DomSchraa@reddit
Atleast get the terminology right, we arent l*bs
Also, refer to conservative tradewives hating their lives
Low-Possibility-7060@reddit
Is there even a single case of a trans person raping a kid? Would assume that the rapist are usually non-trans relatives or friends of the victims.