Quebec says it will drop permanent immigration targets to as low as 25,000 per year

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suppressed_laughter@reddit

Just curious how will they manage migration from other provinces. I recall seeing something about immigrants going to places like Manitoba to get their PR then moving to Ontario.

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DieuEmpereurQc@reddit

For Canadians moving from provinces there’s no barrier, immigrants can’t move from a different provinces to work because they need a provincial permit

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This is false. Permanent Residents can live and work anywhere in Canada. The only exception is PRs who obtained their status via Provincial Nomination, but even then it’s sort of a legal grey area as they are still entitled to freedom of movement as Permanent Residents but they must demonstrate they made reasonable efforts to settle in province that granted them the nomination certificate.

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RealAbd121@reddit

This is false. Permanent Residents can live and work anywhere in Canada.

He said immigrants, not permanent residents, you put words in his mouth, then argued against that lmao!

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daninmontreal@reddit

Maybe there is some confusion with the term immigrant here? A permanent resident is considered a “landed immigrant”, a temporary resident such as a foreign worker is NOT considered an immigrant.

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RealAbd121@reddit

An immigrant needs to wait years before applying to become a permanent resident, The entire discussion is literally about people sneaking into Quebec after entering from other provinces.

You're either confused or pretending to be.

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daninmontreal@reddit

Again, you are not considered an immigrant until you become a PR.

You could just as well apply to become PR under a provincial stream because it’s easier and you don’t speak French. Then once you are in Canada move to Quebec. That is what the discussion is about. In such cases, doing so under a different provincial nomination can cause issues later on when applying for Citizenship as the PR would have misrepresented their intention to settle in the nominating province.

You don’t need to wait years to apply for PR. You can literally do it at any time, even before moving to Canada.

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RealAbd121@reddit

Then once you are in Canada move to Quebec

no, the entire point is that you literally can't "just do that"

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daninmontreal@reddit

You absolutely can

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dosedatwer@reddit

Provincial permit isn't made up, the provinces can sponsor certain aspects of PR profiles that give them more points and therefore ability to apply to that province when invited. It's called the provincial nominee program, you can look it up.

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daninmontreal@reddit

Yes I am aware and I mentioned it in a previous comment. In fact I became PR (now citizen) via Provincial Nomination myself. The commenter said you need a provincial permit to move provinces, that is the part that is untrue. You can move to a different province after obtaining PR via provincial nomination, however it’s generally recommended to hold off a few years before doing so to avoid giving the impression of having misrepresented oneself or to have trouble when applying for citizenship.

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dosedatwer@reddit

Again, you are not considered an immigrant until you become a PR.

This isn't true. You're an immigrant when you have a long term visa as well.

You don’t need to wait years to apply for PR. You can literally do it at any time, even before moving to Canada.

This also isn't true. You have to be invited to apply for a PR. You can submit your profile to the Canadian website, but you can't apply until you're invited. You get points by things you claim in your profile, and if your points are high enough they'll invite you to apply, but one of the main ways to get points is work experience in Canada.

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daninmontreal@reddit

This simply isn’t true. Somebody who holds a visa with an expiry date, even one that is years away, is a temporary resident, not an immigrant.

You can apply for Express Entry from abroad. You can receive an ITA from abroad as well, and if you have high enough qualifications you may be drawn quite fast and not have to wait years. There are other non-express entry pathways too, such as AINP, PNP and Family Sponsorship.

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Disastrous-Hearing72@reddit

They will handle it by not speaking English to them. Seriously, I moved to Québec from Saskatchewan last year. All government agencies will not speak to you in English.

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mangage@reddit

Probably by making it difficult to get things like a quebec health card, driver's license, etc

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PhoenixKingMalekith@reddit

I ll probably still try to immigrate them this year or the next but then again, I m probably the ideal immigrant for Québec. Unskilled migrants ruin it for everyone else

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frostcanadian@reddit

LMAO, I don't want to pop your bubble, but Quebecers are not too excited about the French people coming over. There's this stereotype of the French person where they think their culture, taste, French, etc. is better than ours and act all superior around us. Most of them also move to Le Plateau in MTL and thus do not integrate into society. I might be painting a picture that's worse than reality, but the truth is do not come over here with the mentality that you are the ideal immigrant. Quebecers don't like that vibe

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Chenipan@reddit

This is so bullshit.

Most Quebecois actually prefer immigrants from France over ones from other countries.

they speak the language
their culture is closer to ours
often have a good education

That plateau thing is a bit of a meme, sure it happens but no body hates or completely dislikes them for that

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PhoenixKingMalekith@reddit

I meant in technical set : bilingual building engineer

You could probably find that skillset in Belgium and a few African countries I suppose tho

If I want to immigrate to Québec, do you realy think I find my culture superior ? I ve been to Québec and have enough Québec friends to think I d fit well there.

It's not always about the money, spider man

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Wetty01@reddit

My stepmother is a big xenophobe and racist. The stereotype is not that we think your culture is superior, it's that you act superior and snobby about it.

It's a generational thing mostly. People my generation tend to be a lot more welcoming in my experience. It really depends on who you interact with.

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PhoenixKingMalekith@reddit

I mean, if she is xenophobic and racist, she probably don't hate french more than other ethnicities

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Wetty01@reddit

She definitely doesn't hate them more. But she's my main source when it comes to "why people irrationally hate X group".

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BabylonianWeeb@reddit

I am surprised they haven't done this a decade ago, immigration is killing votes for Qubec separatists.

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MidlandAintFree@reddit

You shouldn't be. Federalists have been in power from 2003 to 2012 and 2014 to now.

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Parking-Asparagus625@reddit

That number is far too high until housing and health system are greatly improved, which will take a good decade after kicking out the hordes of Uber drivers who somehow got in the country yet are too stupid to follow delivery instructions. We need to give up UberEats if it means sending them back.

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-Ikosan-@reddit

I took my payment residency exams for Quebec. It ain't easy. They wanted b2 in French, a certified diploma, study the various starters and pass tests on them, I have a 6 figure salary and already was in Quebec with this job when I applied. It's not as easy as showing up and signing up to Uber. At least it was not for me (got PR 2 years ago, going for citizenship now)

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BurstYourBubbles@reddit (OP)

If you don't mind me asking, what made you choose Quebec? Wouldn't it have been easier to settle in a different province, at least a first?

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-Ikosan-@reddit

I work in videogames and Montreal is a hotspot for jobs for me there. More so than Toronto/Vancouver etc and I didn't fancy living in the states nor moving back to UK due to ongoing Brexit shitstorms

Honestly I was offered the job before I moved there, I've never tried just showing up to a country without a job in hand

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frostcanadian@reddit

If I can give you a good tip: you need to have French speakers in your social and/or professional life. My English was abysmal until I joined the English department of my first employer. Stayed there for 3yrs and came back fluently bilingual. Not gonna lie, the first few weeks were awful and I got close to asking for a switch haha

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GuaSukaStarfruit@reddit

Ontario has more work but not in video games. But yeah Montreal is still a huge hotspot for video games.

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DieuEmpereurQc@reddit

You’re such a fucker thinking that Québec hates immigrants. We don’t, it’s just a number question because we are aware that out services and infrastructure need time to adapt population growth and it’s equally true for culture which Canada does not have and canadians seem to have difficulties understanding the last point

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