Enterprise - d exploring inside a Dyson sphere
Posted by kkkan2020@reddit | TNG | View on Reddit | 107 comments
Posted by kkkan2020@reddit | TNG | View on Reddit | 107 comments
OhJustLeaveMeAlone@reddit
How come nobody cares that the Dyson sphere looks so Borg
BlankofJord@reddit
Looks more like an O'Neil Cylinder, but still very cool. I wish there were more episodes dealing with these megastructures.
thesandalwoods@reddit
Really did enjoy the Dyson sphere episode with Scottie though
HomsarWasRight@reddit
But we didn’t really get to explore the idea at all. Uncovering the mysteries of a Dyson Sphere should have been the sole focus of an episode. Instead it was the backdrop for a Scotty story. They should have been two separate episodes.
Realistic-Safety-565@reddit
You could make entire spinoff series dedicated to the exploration of the sphere.
Biostrike14@reddit
ST:tng book 50 was this. The enterprise comes back to drop of a team and problems occur.
ArcherNX1701@reddit
Unfortunately didn't they mention it was unstable and that's why everyone left?
HomsarWasRight@reddit
Stories like Ringworld really sell the absolute mind-boggling size of structures like this. Would love for Trek to really tackle it.
amglasgow@reddit
The surface area of a Dyson sphere is something like that of a ringworld squared.
jjreinem@reddit
Well... Maybe.
For a Dyson shell like they had on the show, the liveable surface area would be close to identical. Try to get too far north or south of the equator and the Coriolis effects (and the fact that the floor is no longer perpendicular to any centrifugal forces at play) would make it increasingly difficult for people to actually live there. You could still install solar panels or heavy machinery there but you'd probably want to avoid anything too maintenance intensive.
Of course if you've got access to Star Trek style artificial gravity generators, one could probably find a workaround for this. But it does call into question how much living space is actually needed at some point.
Albert_Newton@reddit
Treknology like artificial gravity solves that issue, I never imagined the Dyson sphere would use spin gravity
Or even if that's not an option, don't spin the shell at all, and build your settlements, nature reserves, farms, everything inside spinning cones embedded in the inner surface. Even if your cones are city sized, at the scales we see things at in the episode they wouldn't be visible.
nedeta@reddit
Sadly true.
Another point... Both dyson sphere and ringworld are like a ball balanced on a hill. Any imbalance of mass and the structure will fall into the star.
Dyson Swarm would be far more practical. (Thank you Stellaris)
AshaTheGrey@reddit
But you still have star trek artificial gravity, so I'm this case Id assume it's not an issue
Starwatcher4116@reddit
It’ll be a long time before anyone complains of crowding.
Fake_Answers@reddit
Man, it's been decades since I read that book. Pops up here and the like your comment. Three thing stand out, the fist of God mountain, the alien losing and eye from the nano-wire and zero g sex.
HomsarWasRight@reddit
Those nano wires were so weirdly terrifying.
Fake_Answers@reddit
Quite! The whole story was ominous. Ohhhh! Teleporter sidewalks 😁
murphsmodels@reddit
That was an idea I had for a Star Trek series based on the Starfleet Corps of Engineers. Each episode would focus on them exploring a different thing that the Enterprise encountered. The Dyson sphere, that satellite that took over Data and reconfigured the ship into an ancient temple, the other satellite that injected an entire lifetime into Picard's memory. All of the alien planets they encountered and had to save.
Each episode would start with the captain getting a call, "The Enterprise did what? Ok, we're on the way."
BitterFuture@reddit
The possibilities were so ridiculously huge that even the followup book (brilliantly named "Dyson Sphere") explores just a few cool things before the whole structure mysteriously disappears into a wormhole, never to be seen again.
sacking03@reddit
Sounds like you need a second contact team. -Engage the core.
ihavenoidea12345678@reddit
I would be happy if lower decks made a visit back to the sphere.
I recall that something was wrong with the sun though.
bradrlaw@reddit
It should have been a whole damn series like deep space nine…
That would have been a great foundation for one, uncovering mystery after mystery of the sphere, non-federation members attacking or wanting access to it, etc.
Albert_Newton@reddit
Episode? The Dyson sphere could be a series.
Sufficient_Button_60@reddit
Or maybe a two-parter? It really would have been fun to spend some time exploring the Dyson Sphere aspect but I really felt that James Dohaan nailed it home perfectly. His performance here was legendary. It would be hard to top!
FrostyCartographer13@reddit
The fact that one of the greatest feats in engineering and construction would have no follow-up episodes or mentions in the series was wild.
Gornashk@reddit
As I recall, (it's been decades though) the book adaptation of the episode does explore the Sphere quite a bit more. Though now that I say that, I wonder if I'm mixing that up with something else.
oldtomdjinn@reddit
Star Trek Online, god bless 'em, at least did revisit the idea of the sphere, and emphasized what a significant discovery it would be (the writing wasn't great, but they did at least touch on the implications.)
Fishbowler1@reddit
There's a novel too. I remember thinking it was very average. I don't recall the plot - that's how average it was.
HomsarWasRight@reddit
That’s cool. Always intended on trying it out at some point, but I really just don’t enjoy MMO’s.
oldtomdjinn@reddit
Well if it matters, you can do all the storylines solo.
Icecold_Antihero@reddit
Exactly! "It's about as big as our solar system!" "Yeah, nope! Turn around!" They should've sent in the Cali-class fleet, Lower Decks could've explained a ton.
Unanimous_D@reddit
It wasn't until I watched the movies recently that I realized he'd already admitted his "I got to have 15 minutes!" was BS decades before Relics. Some of them I hadn't seen since they came out.
PrestegiousWolf@reddit
You mean we traveled millions of miles.. ‘thousands’.. err thousands of miles to finally see a disón sphere?
headius@reddit
Hello computer!
PrestegiousWolf@reddit
How quant 😂 still use this one today..
UnpricedToaster@reddit
Aye.... that we did...
*brushes away a tear*
otoolemmobile@reddit
This
fonix232@reddit
O'Neill's cylinder?
Is it imperative that it remain unharmed?
firemansam51@reddit
Everyone asks about the cylinder, but no one asks about the larger structure.
firemansam51@reddit
It is imperative.
EhliJoe@reddit
It's a cylinder like in the novel "Rendezvous with Rama."
RealLars_vS@reddit
They had them come back in a later update of Star Trek: Online. Not sure how well it was fleshed out, however. They also added sentient dinosaurs with lasers…
probablyaythrowaway@reddit
Heaven’s River
matedow@reddit
I love that series
Browncoat1701@reddit
Looks more like a tube than a sphere.
jerslan@reddit
Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. This isn't very spherical.
42turnips@reddit
I was going to ask if that's what the inside of a Dyson sphere looks like. I imagined it more like mirrors or solar panels
TexanGoblin@reddit
That's theoretically what they would be for, yes, total capture of a star's energy output.
mikesmithhome@reddit
yeah real Rendevous with Rama vibes
totaly_a_human4@reddit
That’s an O’Neal cylinder. A small one
sacredlunatic@reddit
People don’t seem to understand how big a Dyson sphere really is.
headius@reddit
I thought the portrayal in the episode was pretty good. You can hardly tell it's a sphere from the inside except if you look in every direction you eventually see land.
sacredlunatic@reddit
Yeah, the portrayal in the episode isn’t bad. The portrayal in Star Trek online is horrible.
Haster@reddit
I imagine that's because video games (or at least most) can't really represent the true scale of space for both technological and gameplay reasons.
sacredlunatic@reddit
Actually, in STO it isn’t about the size, it’s about the shape. They made it look like you’re in a dome, not a sphere.
bb_218@reddit
Which Sphere are you talking about? (There are multiple you can enter in STO). But you never get to realize experience the whole sphere, you only ever see a piece of it.
sacredlunatic@reddit
What bothered me wasn’t that you couldn’t explore the whole thing, what bothered me was that when you were flying around inside it? It looked like you were inside a dome, not a sphere. The walls should curve up around you and they do not.
Haster@reddit
Oh, yeah, that's not great. You'd think developers working on a game set in something like star trek would know that the fandom tends to pay attention to details.
chriscrowder@reddit
You're asking too much of the pseudo intellectuals of this sub
obinice_khenbli@reddit
or, mayhap, what a sphere is?
rafale1981@reddit
People tend to get tunnel vision when their art project balloons like this
sacredlunatic@reddit
Indeed
Bryozoa84@reddit
Teal'c
sacredlunatic@reddit
I had no idea what this meant, so I looked it up and found it’s a character from Stargate? Which is a show I’ve never watched, so I still don’t really know what you were trying to say.
Bryozoa84@reddit
The character says "indeed" a lot. It became a meme
sacredlunatic@reddit
Oh, I see, I get it now. Thanks.
ArchitectAces@reddit
I know Mike Dyson. He invented the sucker punch.
Fine-Funny6956@reddit
Thucka punth
Bluestorm83@reddit
Unlike his damn nerd brother, Neil.
lacroixlibation@reddit
This is an ad for the new Enterprise Lariat. It gives off that big spaceship energy short kings look for in a daily drive.
Sufficient_Button_60@reddit
From the description in the episode almost unfathomably huge. I didn't pay too much attention the first couple times I watched the episode but the last time I saw it grasping the idea that they were in a habitable area with a star at its center it would have to be epic
kkkan2020@reddit (OP)
It's bigger than the earths orbit around the sun
Feeling_Community680@reddit
Not sure the graphics department did either, you could clearly see the curvature when the Enterprise was flying past it
bb_218@reddit
It looks a bit more like an O'Neill Cylinder, but maybe that's just a matter of perspective
Xgentis@reddit
And the dyson sphere was never mentioned ever again.
mediocretes@reddit
Picture unrelated.
DVariant@reddit
Legit, the title ain’t what’s pictured
GeneralDispleasure@reddit
That is not a Dyson sphere.
Werejackal93@reddit
That's not a Dyson Sphere. That's a Jefferies Tube on the Enterprise Big D.
zozigoll@reddit
Wrong. It’s the turbolift corridor on the Discovery.
BreakfastNew8771@reddit
Its the engine room on Kelvin Enterprise
headius@reddit
Yeah I found that frustrating myself. There's no way that ship is big enough for such a large interior space.
Hot-Shine3634@reddit
Ai nonsense
Dominus_Invictus@reddit
It's not. It's just a bad Photoshop. I don't understand why everyone feels the need to call out AI when they clearly can't tell the difference.
Hot-Shine3634@reddit
I retract my objection. I’m pro- bad photoshop.
headius@reddit
I will actually go out of my way to commend people on bad photoshops because at least I know it's not AI.
SonicDart@reddit
i doubt it since i had that oneil cylinder as my wallpaper in 2016 (minus the enterprise)
jacknomidori@reddit
Looks like an O'Neill Cylinder, but still cool.
Mutabilitie@reddit
And there’s the mistake where they show a star field instead of a structure. It’s big but it’s not that big.
SentientFotoGeek@reddit
A cylinder and a sphere are not the same thing, Mr. karma harvester.
Ticker011@reddit
Do people not know what a Dyson sphere is anymore because that is not one
MovieFan1984@reddit
This looks more like if the Whale Probe were hollow and had land inside.
RealCreativeFun@reddit
This looks like a O'Neal Cylinder.
regeya@reddit
Rendezvous with Rama
sicarius254@reddit
Looks like a tube to me
Skyler_Nightwing@reddit
R/fruitigeraero
shaikuri@reddit
I womder why we've never detected one.
BreakfastNew8771@reddit
I am so mad they never mentioned again
Artemus_Hackwell@reddit
The Jenolan Sphere does factor heavily in an STO Storyline.
I'd have wanted it mentioned on the show too, but its interesting in game.
kkkan2020@reddit (OP)
That Dyson sphere alone would have helped the feds so much in terms of technology
Artemus_Hackwell@reddit
Looks more like an O'Neill cylinder.
probablyaythrowaway@reddit
Need this in 4k
TheTrivialPsychic@reddit
Looks more like a remake of "The Final Countdown".
TwoDudesAtPPC@reddit
The book that goes deeper into the Dyson sphere is also really enjoyable. One of my favorite episides!
JACCO2008@reddit
The Great Journey awaits, brother!
comoestasmiyamo@reddit
By the Prophet...
kkkan2020@reddit (OP)
By euderion