The ocean is collapsing 61 percent of Earths waters face irreversible damage without immediate global action. Experts Urge Immediate Ban on High Seas Fishing, Mining & Exploitation Before It’s Too Late
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jibrilmudo@reddit
So you're telling me we don't have a chance.
Da_Question@reddit
Yeah, good luck getting people to stop eating even 1/2 the amount of fish and meat that they do. Can't even get them to stop killing animals for aphrodisiacs...
earthkincollective@reddit
It's not people eating that's the problem 🤦🤦🤦. It's fucking capitalism and a system designed to value short-term profit over every other value and consideration. CEO's are literally bound by law to do that. The system is preying on all of us, and blaming people who face no power and who are just trying to survive is beyond foolish.
Da_Question@reddit
Sure, but it's also a supply and demand situation. People eat meat, they want to eat meat. Higher demand, they make more supply available.
If everyone cut 1/2 their meat consumption it'd help.
I agree corporations are the biggest problem, but people aren't blameless either.
loco500@reddit
Eating a species to extinction because the PP is tiny is ridiculous, but true...
jibrilmudo@reddit
I'm okay with seeing humanity erased, including me. Will be sad for my family and friends, of course, but for the most part we bought this on ourselves.
Which_Cat_1420@reddit
Impossible meat came and it went. People chose real beef. There’s fish balls, but hey fish consumption is still going up.
Ditto don’t have a chance.
earthkincollective@reddit
Sure, blame consumers and ignore the corporations making billions. 🤦🤦🤦🤦
jibrilmudo@reddit
Why not both?
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to have selfish, ignorant leaders. --Carlin
earthkincollective@reddit
I'd agree that selfish, ignorant people are a problem, but they aren't the cause of THIS problem. That's just a fact, and arguing otherwise only serves to distract from the real cause.
If you want to discuss the other problem we can do that too, but it's a separate discussion.
jibrilmudo@reddit
You believe it's a specific group.
I believe it's animal nature to exploit as deeply as possible, deeper than human. See William Catton's Overshoot. Even if you can get a group of humans to live within means, another group will outdo them, kill them, and take their lands in the process.
Our downfall is our brains are too good at the hack. Maybe an evolutionary cul-de-sac.
ChaosTaint@reddit
I believe they’re saying it’s time to forge the rebel alliance and take down the empire
icklefluffybunny42@reddit
The Secretary General of the United Nations, Antonio Guterres would seem to be in agreement:
https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/10/1102672
October 2021, In re the COP15 Biodiversity Conference.
To all the young people mobilizing, good luck, we're all counting on you.
Which_Cat_1420@reddit
Full steam ahead. Capitalists can’t be bothered with loss of biodiversity. Because we are headed for Mars
Kaining@reddit
that will be 4 years in prison for "intent to cause a disturbance" if you're in the UK.
icklefluffybunny42@reddit
I think if we even watch any of the Star Wars films now in the UK we are required to visibly hate the Rebel Alliance, and cheer on the Empire, or we are sent straight to the Narkina 5 Imperial Prison Complex, where we are used as forced labour building components for the Golden Dome ballistic missile defence project.
dominantspecies@reddit
Exactly. Nothing will be done, the rich will keep destroying this planet for profit.
Ok_Main3273@reddit
How many here are vegans? Because this is what it means to REALLY try to stop the current damage done to our oceans. Sure, me being vegan for fifteen years hasn't stopped the irreversible march towards collapse of the ocean ecosystems but:
at least I am doing something
I am offering a solution (albeit I know not a full one because of global warming and pollution including chemicals, plastic, fertilizer run-offs, etc.)
even it is a drop in the ocean (pun intended), it is the moral thing to do if you REALLY care about fish, dolphins, seals, penguins, whales and all.
JOIN ME! It's not that hard 😊
Bandits101@reddit
“Tragedy Of The Commons” has/is being played out locally, nationally and globally. We absolutely cannot help ourselves, our overarching nature has us in a vice grip.
earthkincollective@reddit
Humans have lived for half a million years and we've only been destroying the biosphere for the past few hundred. It isn't human nature that's the fucking problem.
Bandits101@reddit
You think human nature is separate from capitalism or any other “ism” for that matter.
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
Native Americans wouldn't have treated the environment the way modern Americans have.
Bandits101@reddit
Give them access to fossil fuels and industrial know-how and they’re off to the races, did you think they weren’t human. They traded for many things that settlers had, including guns, knives, liquor and tobacco.
earthkincollective@reddit
That means nothing. An irrelevant anecdote.
dresden_k@reddit
... It is now already too late.
CremeAcrobatic1748@reddit
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the problem is likely worse than even the scientists think, thus it's too late.
We had time, now we don't
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FirmFaithlessness212@reddit
The only immediate action people gonna take is get a donut from the fridge. Why would you put a donut in the fridge???
Shumina-Ghost@reddit
Sorry. Best we can do is infinite growth.
rematar@reddit
The bigger the bubble, the bigger the dark ages.
Shumina-Ghost@reddit
And it’s already so dark…
schizo-throwaway-403@reddit
Hey, that only sounds like half empty guys, there is still a lot left. /s
jez_shreds_hard@reddit
It's so sad that we're killing the only planet that we know of that can sustain life, all so that the psychopaths that run the world can get as rich as possible, before they die. All these poor animals are being wiped off planet earth because one species is hell bent on destroying everything.
imminentjogger5@reddit
I think it's safe to assume there will be no immediate global action
AllPraiseExtinction@reddit
We just all as an entire species need to think about the planet and not ourselves. So simple
ttystikk@reddit
Thinking of the planet IS self preservation; when we fuck this place up, we're finished.
That takes selfless long term thinking and humans may not collectively be capable of such high level action.
We cannot stop those with the worst impulses; this may be a civilization ending defect.
snertwith2ls@reddit
yeah but what about trans people using the wrong bathrooms?? /s
Micronauts@reddit
Global Lacktion
imminentjogger5@reddit
I thought you wrote global lactation at first
errie_tholluxe@reddit
What's that mantra again? Faster than expected no stopping in sight?
6rwoods@reddit
"Faster than expected, worse than predicted"?
Parking_Chance_1905@reddit
And yet the vast majority won't do anything despite the evidence showing how bad it's getting. We are already on track to beat the 23/24 wildfire seasons in Canada and it's not even peak fire season yet. Most people here seem to be unconcerned since fires are normal...
errie_tholluxe@reddit
You know that's probably more accurate
ElectricFuneralHome@reddit
No action, immediate or otherwise. If the choice is between saving the planet and making another dollar, the dollar wins every time.
tawhuac@reddit
The experts just talk, the politicians drill, and everyone continues eating sushi. Nothing will happen.
renzok@reddit
Yeah... there's no way we're going to stop this madness...
We're Leroy Jenkinsing ourselves (and every other species) without the ability to re-spawn
Fearless_Manager_683@reddit
Alright, time's up, let's do this...
Phrainkee@reddit
LEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEENKINNNNNS!!!!
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
Great metaphor.
mfyxtplyx@reddit
People needed to exercise restraint when there was abundance. Scarcity will simply lead to people fighting over the scraps. We are cooked.
United-Breakfast5025@reddit
Yes. If anyone believes 8 billion, hungry people will all go quietly into the night, I have a bridge to sell them.
itsmemarcot@reddit
What do you mean, "go quietly into the night"? Regardless, you are correct.
United-Breakfast5025@reddit
This is an extinction event, right? I thought it was obvious...
Mo_Dice@reddit
I'm assuming the guy you're replying to isn't much for culture & poetry.
https://poets.org/poem/do-not-go-gentle-good-night
earthkincollective@reddit
It's not the people that are the problem. The majority of the exploitation of the high seas benefits rich countries, and it isn't even just about food production.
Sea_Sheepherder_2234@reddit
Where is it?how much?
United-Breakfast5025@reddit
You see, the bank won't secure financing until its 90% sold, so you'll have to take my word for it...
SuperPapernick@reddit
I'm putting all my money on "nothing will happen". The average person will not realize the severity until they can no longer buy fish at the grocery store, at which point it will be long past the point of no return.
itsmemarcot@reddit
Ok, it's unpopular but soneone has to say it: we should stop eating fish.
Most of the people here complaining that "no global action will be taken" eat fish and don't intend to stop. Reading this, they are already thinking how to justify that they will continue to consume fish, and whom to blame instead of themselves... when the reality is sumply that if we all do eat fish, the number of viable solutions is exactly zero.
There would be one sustainable way to feed humanity and that's based on plants. Not meat of course, and also not fish.
There, I said it. Push the downvote button and, if you have time, deflect the guilt on multinationals or whatever, and attempt to justify your fish consumption. I've heard them all and none of the excuses are valid. I won't reply.
PyroclasticSnail@reddit
Sorry bruv, America is going to need to mine the ocean floor for rare earth metals since they have none and they won’t be buying them from China. Better luck next time Planet Earth.
extinction6@reddit
Perhaps if climate change kills humans and our flesh washes into the oceans and feeds the fish things will get better. Karma is a bitch sometimes.
Archeolops@reddit
Save the kids by not having any. Abort them all right now.
jacckthegripper@reddit
Happy cake day, snip them vans deferens boys
Archeolops@reddit
Yes thank you, being gay is my birth control. 🙏
extinction6@reddit
My personality worked for me.
TrickyProfit1369@reddit
Im not reproducing because of climate change, just considering adoption. The urges to have an offspring are strong though
mslix@reddit
Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
fitbootyqueenfan2017@reddit
my body, my microplastic sushi!
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
It's already too late.
KeithGribblesheimer@reddit
Before it's too late was passed some time ago.
bill_b4@reddit
The title reads like gibberish
ryleg@reddit
The whole thing looks like a Geocities page cooked up by a college freshman in 1998.
apoletta@reddit
The time to try is long past. The bunkers are built. We are SOL.
maaseru@reddit
There will be a ton of new action in the wrong direction.
I am suddenly seeing a TON of videos pop up about those mineral nodules at the bottom of the ocean and how that will be the next big thing.
They are all set up and ready to attack and it doesn't seem like a good thing by itself, can't imagine with all of this in consideration.
Cottager_Northeast@reddit
When you say "ban", how do you mean to enforce it?
redditmodsRrussians@reddit
Skynet has entered the chat
sibun_rath@reddit (OP)
By 'ban', I mean a globally coordinated moratorium enforced through international law, supported by surveillance technology and diplomatic pressure. Soft protests, public awareness campaigns, and NGO action—like what Greenpeace does—can help build momentum and hold governments accountable.
I think So
Cottager_Northeast@reddit
Have you seen how well that's working in, say, Ukraine? Or Gaza?
LeeKapusi@reddit
At least the money line is going up.
Fortunateoldguy@reddit
It’s already too late
curiousitrocity@reddit
It’s already too late.
j_mantuf@reddit
Narrator: It was, in fact, already too late.”
uptheantinatalism@reddit
Yeah that ain’t gonna happen.
whatevers_cleaver_@reddit
Narrator: It’s too late.
sibun_rath@reddit (OP)
We have ⏲️ ⏳️ Not too late.....
NaTuralCynik@reddit
Spoiler- It’s already too late
BadgerKomodo@reddit
That’s exactly what I was gonna say. We’re fucked.
yeahimokaythanks@reddit
Good thing AI data centers are the number one priority right now. That surely won’t accelerate anything
yeahimokaythanks@reddit
Sorry, kids. Enjoy drinking battery acid
GIGGLES708@reddit
It’s a wrap for the oceans with these giant cruise ships
Da_Question@reddit
Cruise ships, trash, ice caps melting, micro plastics. Not great.
StatementBot@reddit
The following submission statement was provided by /u/sibun_rath:
Sadly, these huge waters have been under serious threat from stuff like fishing, mining, and oil drilling. The high seas aren’t just empty water—they have been essential for global biodiversity and have played a huge role in regulating our climate, acting as Earth’s biggest carbon sink.
But things haven’t been looking good. Overfishing and climate change has already taken a toll, hurting marine life and throwing delicate ecological processes out of balance. Shockingly, less than 1% of the high seas have been protected so far. Even though the 2023 UN High Seas Treaty has been a step in the right direction, progress have been slow and far from complete.
What’s more, high-seas fishing mostly benefits rich countries, while causing a lot of harm through by-catch and pollution. That’s why many scientists have been calling for a total ban on extractive activities in these waters. They believe this has been the best way to help marine species recover, restore the health of our oceans, and save the planet’s climate.
Bottom line?
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1l44cmh/the_ocean_is_collapsing_61_percent_of_earths/mw5z5jk/
DruidicMagic@reddit
Made a list 5 years ago. If it had been updated daily the thing would be a few thousand pages long...
https://www.reddit.com/r/TinfoilHatTime/comments/esotos/the_coming_global_famine/
mfyxtplyx@reddit
People needed to exercise restraint when there was abundance. Scarcity is going to lead to people fighting over the scraps. We're cooked.
Oo_mr_mann_oO@reddit
So the 39% is not in danger?
I'm sorry, but this is just bad framing that mocks your intelligence for an emotional response. Just state the truth that the oceans have changed drastically in the last 100 years and are going to keep changing for centuries. There are many things we should start doing and many things we should stop doing.
Straight-Razor666@reddit
when the oceans die, we die. I guess the future is clear now.
sibun_rath@reddit (OP)
Sadly, these huge waters have been under serious threat from stuff like fishing, mining, and oil drilling. The high seas aren’t just empty water—they have been essential for global biodiversity and have played a huge role in regulating our climate, acting as Earth’s biggest carbon sink.
But things haven’t been looking good. Overfishing and climate change has already taken a toll, hurting marine life and throwing delicate ecological processes out of balance. Shockingly, less than 1% of the high seas have been protected so far. Even though the 2023 UN High Seas Treaty has been a step in the right direction, progress have been slow and far from complete.
What’s more, high-seas fishing mostly benefits rich countries, while causing a lot of harm through by-catch and pollution. That’s why many scientists have been calling for a total ban on extractive activities in these waters. They believe this has been the best way to help marine species recover, restore the health of our oceans, and save the planet’s climate.
Bottom line?