I finally found my “gaming white whale:” the Neo Geo Advanced Entertainment System
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In early 1990’s era when competitors like the Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, and TurboGrafx-16 were battling for the home-gaming market, the madlads at SNK took a rather different approach: “what if we crammed the guts of our top-of-the-line arcade machine into a sleek console and sold it for 3X more than the other guys?”
Thus was born the SNK Neo Geo Advanced Entertainment System, or AES. Judging by pure specs alone, this thing is in a class of its own, capable of graphical and auditory sophistication way, WAY beyond its peers. Aesthetically, it looks every bit the ultra-premium product that it was: sleek black case, over-engineered click-pad controller, and game cartridges the size of a small aircraft carrier.
Where other systems offered “reasonable approximations” of popular arcade titles of the day, the AES said “screw that, here’s the literal same exact code from the arcade game, running in your living room. Oh, and if you make progress in your game at your favorite arcade, save it to your memory card and pick up where you left off at home.” It’s basically impossible to overstate how impressive this machine was at the time, and still is today.
Interestingly, the AES (home console) and MVS (arcade machines build using the same technology) can play the exact same games, but the physical format of the cartridges for is different for each. Because the AES wasn’t a big seller and because of all the advanced tech involved, games for the system were always expensive (often $200-$300 when new), and today some of them valued for as much as $10,000 - $30,000 *each.*
Because SNK sold way more Neo Geo arcade machines than home consoles, it’s usually cheaper to buy the arcade (“MVS”) version of a game and an adapter to allow it to physically plus into the home console (“AES”). Alternately, there are “multi-carts” that include dozens of games on one cartridge - a far more economical option, and one which I look forward to experiencing for myself.
Just in case anyone reading this happens to be a Neo Geo expert, I’ve got a question: The previous owner let me know that it’s difficult to insert and remove the game carts, but I’m honestly shocked by how much force I had to apply to get a game to “sit” fully in the slot. Now that the cartridge is in there, trying to remove it requires so much effort that I’m genuinely worried I’m going to crack something. I’ve watched YouTube videos where other AES owners can insert and remove cartridges fairly easily, while I’m over here literally bracing the console against my feet on the floor to try to lever the cartridge back out. What can/should I do to make inserting and removing games less terrifying? Can the grip / tension of the twin cartridge slots be loosened?
davidbrit2@reddit
Those AES carts are damn near as big as an SNES console.
KludgeDredd@reddit
Regarding your insert issue: if it impacts multiple carts, then your issue, whatever it is, is mechanical. Something is bent or out of alignment. Take it apart and start inspecting. If the inside of the AES is anything like the MVS, you'll have a thick steel chassis right above the main board. Might just be a matter of adjusting some screws.
Oscarcharliezulu@reddit
My dude that crt is freakin awesome
BrainTheBest50@reddit
That monitor is SO CUTEEEE
Hjalfi@reddit
+1 for Deoxit or any other contact cleaner. In fact, apply it to all the connectors!
Has it been recapped? And has the power supply been recapped? Or replaced? For something this valuable, then getting a power supply which is reliable and current limited is probably a good idea.
chuchrox@reddit
Friend of mine had one when we were kids was so much fun playing it.
iVirtualZero@reddit
Looks like this could be a Neo Geo Ad.
reelcosby@reddit
I sold mine recently to pay for, in part, my wedding. I stopped collecting games about halfway into owing it, when it was generally pretty affordable for most games. Then the prices just soared… managed to nab a boxed US copy of Alpha Mission II before then, which really helped towards the wedding. Hope you enjoy OP!
To answer your question, sometimes. A few of my carts required some force to slot in. Others were much easier. Though, never had your experience. I found it was better for me by inserting and removing them by the top corners of the cart. They’re pretty beefy but feel flimsy at the same time.
flecom@reddit
squirt some deoxid in there... it's a contact cleaner/lubricant, should make the edge connectors easier to insert/remove
Ricenaros@reddit
Whoa!! I’ve never seen this monitor. So badass dude
wowbobwow@reddit (OP)
Thanks! That’s my other big pickup this month: a Sanyo VMC-8614F monitor! It’s been expertly serviced by the previous owner, who also modded it to accept RGB input along with the original Composite and S-Video. The Neo Geo is currently connected via S-Video, but once I get a nice RGB cable for it I’ll definitely switch to that option.
This Sanyo is insanely nice, with a well-designed onscreen menu system for making adjustments, and 800 lines of resolution. The Neo Geo looks absolutely fantastic on this thing!
po2gdHaeKaYk@reddit
Dude. I came to see that monitor. How much did it set you back?
I'm tempted to get a little monitor for retro gaming with my daughter. Are there affordable modern recommendations?
JakesInSpace@reddit
I must be exhausted because I read that as “Nat Geo” and thought, did they really make a gaming console? I was imagining educational games with animals 🥹
giantsparklerobot@reddit
The "mom and dad are getting divorced" machine.
itsasnowconemachine@reddit
A very detailed write-up:
https://www.copetti.org/writings/consoles/neogeo/
SaturnFive@reddit
Beautiful setup! Neo Geo at home always felt like a rare experience to me
That sounds really tough to get the cart in and out. I don't personally have experience fix this issue, but one idea is to apply some Deoxit on the cartridge connector and in the slot. Only need a tiny amount. It both improves contact and lubes the pins/slot, so it may make this a bit easier. Though if you have to brace it with your feet to yank it out... not sure how much it'll help 😂
theazhapadean@reddit
My HS Besties neighbor was a beta tester for neo geo in ‘90. That thing was bad ass in the era of NES. I remember his cart being difficult to change also.
l00koverthere1@reddit
I've heard of people using dental picks (also available at Harbor Freight actually!) to bend the slot pins when they have cart reading errors for regular consoles. That might be something to consider?
You should also consider Keith Apicary's thoughts on the system