Do People Say DNT, SRT, PGBT, Or No?

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thecobra42@reddit

If you said any of those to me I wouldn’t have a clue what you were talking about.

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CycloneCowboy87@reddit

It’s The Tollway, 121, and George Bush. Not DNT and not “the Bush” no matter what anyone else tells you

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whip_lash_2@reddit

I can accept DNT but don't use it myself,and I usually just go with "the Bush", but I'm old. I don't think I've ever heard "SRT" except maybe once or twice in a traffic report.

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MarthaGail@reddit

I use DNT and the Tollway interchangeably. I recently started saying peegeebeetee because it’s fun.

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9bikes@reddit

>The Tollway, 121, and George Bush

Correct. "LBJ" and "635" used interchangeably. I was once very confused by a tourist looking for "The Johnson Freeway" and told him that I'd never heard of that road.

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rex_lauandi@reddit

This is the way.

Im not sure why, but I’ve lived all over north Dallas in between these three roads and this is the default nomenclature across the entire region.

There are some younger folks that’ll say “DNT” or “Sam Rayburn” for those, but those are newer names and not as common as “The Tollway” and “121.”

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9bikes@reddit

>Woodall Rogers

That one is just "Woodall" to a lot of us.

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I think some of these names harken back to the days of morning radio traffic reports. I can still hear in my memory a lady saying, “there’s a stalled vehicle on 30 westbound at the fair park exit with delays backing up to dolphin road.”

So for me thinking of Woodall Rogers, I’m betting they used that longer name back then. But that’s just my guess!

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andrew_702@reddit

As someone who spends a good chunk of time south of the airport, I say Sam Rayburn to differentiate between it and the non-toll section of 121, and i say DNT to avoid confusion with the many other tollways in DFW.

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rex_lauandi@reddit

Yeah, it makes sense if you’ve moved in after there were other tollways, but the DNT was “the tollway” before Bush or 121 got their tolls.

Also, it might just be the elitism of the Park cities, Preston Hollow, and north Dallas that their toll way is “THE” tollway! 😂

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214forever@reddit

Funnily enough, I think I’ve only used LBJ on the portion between 35 and 75, the rest is always 635

Same with Central: if I use it, it’s south of 635. Everything north is just 75

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aprince12@reddit

This!

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NecessaryViolenz@reddit

My dad still says "the Bush" and sounds like Hank Hill. He's still stuck in the mentality that it's brand new, and he will use it for every possible trip to "avoid all that crazy driving around Dallas." He will literally take GWB to Irving from Kaufman County.

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worstpartyever@reddit

Your poor dad

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YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit

Is he though? PGBT has smooth pavement and the traffic never seems as awful as 635, 30, etc... might still take longer but it's a lot less unpleasant!

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Principle_Dramatic@reddit

George Bush used to be deserted because it was only good for going to the airport or a Rangers game.

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thephotoman@reddit

I mean, that's still the primary use, but there are more people from Plano/Garland/Sasche/Wylie commuting to the airport area now.

And the connection at the tollway leads it to the Legacy area, which is starting to get some commuter traffic.

75 is 75 south of George Bush and Central north of it. I blame living in Plano for too long now.

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Consistent_Reward@reddit

If anything, that use of 75 is backwards, given that 75 in Dallas is either North Central or South Central Expressway, depending on which side of downtown you're on.

75 should be 75 north of Dallas until it merges with US 69 up north.

That being said, I call it Central all the way up to the 121 merge.

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Principle_Dramatic@reddit

Prior to 2005, there were two independent sections, and the part from 35 to 635 didn’t exist so it was particularly useless.

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thephotoman@reddit

Oof.

But now I have to ask: is there a reason DART doesn't do phased builds? It might have made a lot of their projects happen faster.

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Principle_Dramatic@reddit

In practice they have. Blue and red lines opened first and then got extended in waves. Orange and green lines opened later after the extensions.

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NecessaryViolenz@reddit

Nah, old dudes love shit like that.

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OnPaperImLazy@reddit

Did you know that part of 75 right about where 190 intersects it is renamed after Congressman Sam Johnson, making it the "Sam Johnson Highway." So the 190/75 interchange is literally where The Bush meets The Johnson. You're welcome.

[Texas Transportation Code - TRANSP § 225.091 | FindLaw](https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/transportation-code/transp-sect-225-091/#:~:text=Sam%20Johnson%20Highway&text=(a)%20Notwithstanding%20Section%20225.001(,as%20the%20Sam%20Johnson%20Highway.)

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thephotoman@reddit

Exxon must love your dad.

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DFWRailVideos@reddit

I grew up with it being called either 190 or The Bush. DNT was always called The Tollway (my grandfather once said Dallas Parkway), and nobody ever said Sam Rayburn.

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thephotoman@reddit

The only time I say "DNT" is when I'm giving my out-of-towner parents directions, because that's what is most visible on the signs in most locations.

I mean, I write it as DNT, but it's pronounced "The Tollway".

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um_i_got_a_question@reddit

also, to add, Loop 12 is called "Loop 12" or "Northwest Highway." I've heard some out of towners call it 12 and it just grates on my ears

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Tiger_Miner_DFW@reddit

Loop 12 and Northwest Highway are different routes - they just happen to be coterminous along the northern part of Loop 12. I always say Northwest Highway for the northern part where it shares a roadway with Loop 12, but I say Loop 12 for the other portions.

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pltkcelestial18@reddit

Ooo this is helpful. I mentioned something about this on the other post about interstates. I live by Northwest Hwy/Loop 12 and 75 and never know what to call it.

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Tiger_Miner_DFW@reddit

Loop 12 turns south off of the roadway it shares with Northwest Hwy just west of 35 on the northwest side of Dallas, and goes south - that's where Loop 12 is a full freeway. From there, Northwest Highway continues west, and shares the roadway with TX Spur 348, which starts there, and then both Northwest Highway and Spur 348 end when they merge into TX 114.

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truth-4-sale@reddit

I just use "161" for the Bush Tollway. It may not be correct, but that works for me.

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insta-kip@reddit

Yeah it’s 190 near me, so that’s what I’ve always called it.

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truth-4-sale@reddit

Same reason I call it 161. That part is near me!!

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TransportationEng@reddit

190 is only the frontage roads on the eastern side of 35E.

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insta-kip@reddit

But the whole thing was originally going to be called 190. So I’ve never gotten in the habit of calling it Bush.

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arlenroy@reddit

I'm the same way, it depends on what part of the road I'm on, that's what I call it. I'll call it 190 if I'm driving to Wylie, but I'll call it George Bush if I'm going to the airport. The North Dallas Tollway is just The Tollway, 635 Express is the 635 Tollway. I've heard a few people call George Bush the Bush, like "shoot down the Bush to such and such is only 20 minutes". It doesn't bother me what people call it, you pretty much know what they mean.

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Fun-Consequence-161@reddit

Isn’t it 190, though?

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TransportationEng@reddit

Only the frontage roads are SH 190 east of 35E

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truth-4-sale@reddit

It is 190, but no like to say "190" !!!

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PureTank0@reddit

It's the Bushway! 😀

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Zogg44@reddit

We often call it that lol.

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belladonna_81@reddit

the only time i say "dnt" is when an outsider doesnt know what im talking about when i say "the tollway"

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hanginwmrpark@reddit

This is it. There is no other way.

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RandomRageNet@reddit

I frequently call PGBT "Puh-gibbit" but I recognize that no one else does this and it is solely for my own amusement.

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Vig_2@reddit

I call George Bush, “The Turnpike” or “Bush” and have never had a single person second guess it.

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meanie_tomato_panini@reddit

Tollway, 121, George Bush or Pugbutt (depending on who I'm speaking to, on going joke based on something an old boss' kid said).

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Few-Leadership7674@reddit

I wish we still just had the Tollway (DNT) & the Turnpike (I-30 between Dallas & Ft. Worth).

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Consistent_Monk_4018@reddit

I’m trying to get ‘The Bushway’ to catch on, but so far, no luck.

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Fit_Ad4408@reddit

I’m new here so I say all of those. I also call it “The 75” “The 635” and whatever else. Most people seem to hate me here.

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pamkabam@reddit

“Toll road” lol

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meleant@reddit

Funny enough, that’s what I call the DNT. Grew up with it as the only tolled roadway in Dallas and even with so many more now, I am not sure I’ve ever intentionally used another toll road in the area as I just don’t have anything that takes me out to the other ones.

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pamkabam@reddit

Same here! Every now and then I have to take 121 but even then it’s still colloquially “the toll road” haha

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jillsvag@reddit

Which one?

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pamkabam@reddit

All’um

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Consistent_Reward@reddit

Gawd, as long as somebody doesn't bust out with "North Dallas Tollway", I'm good.

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Codee33@reddit

The Tollway, 121/Sam Rayburn, Bush.

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Stophes@reddit

Slow autobahn(35), fast autobahn (tollway), unsafe autobahn(75), and the autobahn (635 tunnels)

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ExitTheHandbasket@reddit

I've been in Dallas since 1991. The Tollway, 121, The Bush. But never ever "the 35" or "the 121" or other Cali tripe.

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OnPaperImLazy@reddit

The Tollway, 121, 190, 635, Central, 35, 30. If someone is confused by these, I'll clarify with "Dallas North Tollway", "Sam Rayburn", "Bush", "LBJ", 75, I35, I30. I have never in my long years of life heard someone refer to them as DNT, SRT, or PGBT.

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fanoftom@reddit

No to all of these but I definitely call 635 LBJ.

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ObiWanUrHomie@reddit

For PGBT, I’ll sometimes call it the Pug Butt 🤭

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Frosty-Alternative46@reddit (OP)

💀💀💀💀💀💀

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willmel@reddit

My wife has termed PGBT as Pig Butt, and that's what we use for it. I stick with the tollway for DNT, and still just call it 121.

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SadAdministration438@reddit

That's a first lol.

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November77@reddit

SRT = Stevie Ray Tollway

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SadAdministration438@reddit

My first thought for SRT is the Demon car haha.

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weightofzero@reddit

100%

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cluelessinlove753@reddit

Things I say. - DNT and Tollway - 35 (to refer to 35E. 35W is not a part of my life), Stemmons (only the part S of NW Hwy, although I know that’s not technically the full extent) - 75, Central - 635, LBJ - George Bush, PGBT - NW Hwy (I have never said “Loop 12”) - 30 - Woodall Rodgers - 121 - 114

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Beginning-Olive-3745@reddit

I always say PGBT and LBJ with a valley girl accent peg geh beh teh! El beh geh! My wife hates it when I do that😁

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Glad_Air8204@reddit

I say DNT, Sam Rayburn, Bush/George Bush

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Fattymaggoo2@reddit

No one says the bush lmfao

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oakleafwellness@reddit

The only one I can think of I have used abbreviations was LBJ and I avoid that one at all cost. I hated that bridge coming from Denton off of 35. Way too dang tall for my height liking.

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Joseph10d@reddit

Have you tried 75 NB to 635 WB or 161 SB to 183 EB?

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OddSand7870@reddit

DNT - The Tollway SRT - 121 190 - either Bush or 190 75 - either 75 or Central 635 - either 635 or LBJ 35 - either 35 or Stemmons

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Joseph10d@reddit

I use Dallas North Tollway, 121, and 161/190

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Hawkline@reddit

Dallas international speedway, 121 premium edition, ripoff road

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madster40@reddit

Tollway, 121, Bush Turnpike (east-west part), 161 (going south)

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AngryyFerret@reddit

this right here

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Fun-Consequence-161@reddit

TIL Bush’s highway number changes going south.

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Angry-Alien@reddit

I say "puh guh buh tuh" then my parter does the tune to manamana

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DarienLambert@reddit

I jokingly sometimes say pug butt.

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DaSilence@reddit

DNT, SRT, PGB, LBJ...

Though I use 121 interchangeably with SRT. Depends on who I'm talking to.

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earthworm_fan@reddit

DNT, 121, 190, etc

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Ok-Cricket2034@reddit

Tollways are the only “The” around here. It’s “The Tollway” and “The Bush”

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masterB0SHI@reddit

Some people do say DNT, not so much the others

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SameSadMan@reddit

Stemmons

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November77@reddit

Points awarded for originality.

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bad_syntax@reddit

I say tollway, 121, and 190. Lived in DFW since I got out of the army in 2005, was here 97-01 before that.

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timmy166@reddit

121, 635, 75, 35 Gang rise up!

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Surlyllama23@reddit

It's so much less confusing! I've lived here the majority of my life but still couldn't tell you which is Walton Walker. Everyone I know uses the numbers, too.

And it will always be 190! That's what it was when it was being built.

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• The Bushway (admittedly, this may just be a nickname my wife & I utilize, but it'll take off 😆).

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