The 9070 has dropped briefly below MSRP in Germany for the first time.

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kingwhocares@reddit

So, is the price gauging thing only an American issue nowadays?

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randomIndividual21@reddit

Nop, in UK after launch day, 9070XT is consistently atleast £50 to £100 more than fake msrp

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kingwhocares@reddit

£50~ normal for board partners. They normally charge 10-15% more than MSRP.

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Darkomax@reddit

Each brand usually has a basic model at MSRP. Supposing AMD ever intended the MSRP to be enforced if even realistic.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

I think they did tbh, it's best from overall product strategy.

Team Green just fucked up uncharacteristically badly.

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No-Broccoli123@reddit

Nvidia did not fuck up anything though? I hope you don't only get your news from redditors and YouTubers!

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Ok_Assignment_2127@reddit

I think launch was fine but probably still uncharacteristically bad from Nvidia.

But AMD sets the bar so low for bad launches the Nvidia would have to try much harder to reach that low.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

No, they had ass supply, QA problems and the worst driver situation they've in comparison to AMD in a very long time. This launch was well below their usual standard in many aspects.

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labree0@reddit

thats pretty reasonable considering i spent like 100-200 more than msrp on a 9070.

sent it back for a 5070 though. AMD drivers were still a mess. Nvidia too, but atleast games ran without stuttering.

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megongaga2025@reddit

Which games were you playing? AMD's 9070 has run fine so far for me, and I've heard about Nvidia drivers crashing games recently.

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labree0@reddit

I only had one game crash so far. lots of issues, but still way less than AMD.

Pretty much every game i threw at it had stuttering issues or frame pacing issues or shader cache issues.

overwatch is a catastrophe on them still, helldivers 2 stuttered, god of war ragnarok was stuttery.

It was literally everything i played on it for 2 weeks. i built a brand new computer around that GPU and it worked right in neither the old one or the new one.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

And well, RDNA 4 is optimized to be easy to supply and makes significant sacrifices on that altar.

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Strazdas1@reddit

Mostly yeah. US price gouging was insane this release year.

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Yasuchika@reddit

Prices are still up in EU as well, but nowhere near as bad as in the US.

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Clear-Subject-842@reddit

"Briefly under" does not make it not an issue. Here where i live it's 80 bucks over MSRP. So more then what a 9070 XT was supposed to be originally.

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InsaneShepherd@reddit

Makes me wonder if the tariffs caused more supply being routed to the EU.

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Nah, prices for this year's mid range are just insane while the uplifts are too small. I'm keeping my card for yet another generation which will be the longest I've ever waited without an upgrade: 7 years. This card should sit at around 500€ with tax.

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Strazdas1@reddit

If you are upgrading from a card that old the uplift is good. Im not buying this gen because i bought last.

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piesou@reddit

Comparing launch price equivalent cards, I think the uplift is somewhere around 50% when upgrading from a 6800XT to a 9070XT and around 20-30% when upgrading from a 6700XT to a 9060XT. Not great, not terrible. Not worth buying a new GPU for.

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Strazdas1@reddit

Comparing launch price equivalent cards

Dont. It makes no sense comparing to prices 9 years ago.

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piesou@reddit

Inflation rate is around 25% since release which roughly puts them in the same ball park. Definitely makes sense to compare them.

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Strazdas1@reddit

No. Wafer costs tripled since then. Node costs are increasing. you cannot just apply general inflation rate.

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chapstickbomber@reddit

Hamburgers per fps has gone down dramatically.

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piesou@reddit

I don't care about wafer cost. As a customer, I only care about perf/cost. If that is not significantly higher on new gens, I'm staying on old gens.

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Strazdas1@reddit

As a customer, wafer costs are transferred to you. perf/cost is something noone actually looks at when buying a GPU except the most extreme enthusiasts You know whats great perf/costs? Cheap 10 year old used card.

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Comfortable-Sky7801@reddit

Pretty much. I’m on a 6700 XT and can’t find anything worth upgrading to in that upper midrange. If the 9070/5070 drop to 499, I’ll think about it.

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kikimaru024@reddit

RX 9070 / XT would be a 2x performance improvement.

6700 XT is still trading for ~250-300 euro.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

The 5070 and 9070 renormalizing should prevent too much dealer shenanigans in the -60 tier.

If they take the piss in that segment, they risk the 5070 invading that tier, and while that 12 gigs is a punchline in 1440p, it is plenty enough to allow a GB2505 chip to dominate anything to be found in 1080p.

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Camokiller8@reddit

The 9070 is still around 580-650 quid so we're not quite yet there.

I suspect the 5070 dropping below MSRP for a few weeks has take the pressure off the 9070. It wouldn't be reasonable to give extra 100 quid for a 9070 over a 5070.

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Sevastous-of-Caria@reddit

So it was supply and demand not short term msrp bait and switch. Ofc this wont go the same for US. Tariffs and demand being higher

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

Maybe try ordering parts from https://www.grooves-inc.com/index.php/cPath/12563_12569_12571/. They ship overseas for a reasonable 'free shipping threshold' but you may end up waiting a bit.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

Yeah, AMD was planning that MSRP, it's just that Team Green pratfell and knocked their plans into a cocked hat.

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SjokoladeKaker@reddit

I just checked here in Norway.

9070 and 9070 XT prices have actually dropped about 40-130 euros for selected cards.

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996forever@reddit

Dropped 40-130 from what? From MSRP or from what it was?

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Darksider123@reddit

Not the same user here, but same country. All values below are without tax and in stock items.

Cheapest 9070 xt is now $700. Used to be around 800, but price has come down steadily in May.

9070 is 630.

5070 ti is 830.

5070 is 550... The only one at msrp lol

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Jeep-Eep@reddit (OP)

Given that one of the defining traits of that arch is 'Design for Manufacturability', it's not surprising it's normalizing fast.

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HumbrolUser@reddit

I see that the 5090 cards aren't disappearing from the sale listings anymore.

I don't like the 5090, but I already bought the gpu water block, so I am committed.

Hopefully the prices are lowered a little in June, unless they speculate that people get money for their seasonal vacation pay.

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kikimaru024@reddit

...you bought a waterblock before knowing which 5090 model you're getting?

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HumbrolUser@reddit

I bought the waterblock back in January I think. It fits several cards. Most Inno3d cards.

At the time, I didn't know that it would turn out to be next to impossible to buy an Inno3d card.

I tried twice in late January and March iirc, both times, the Inno3d 5090 cards sold within ONE SECOND.

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Alive_Worth_2032@reddit

Not unusual tbh. Sometimes you want a block for the aestethics/form factor. And it can have multiple compatible cards to choose from.

Last gen I ordered the 4090 1 slot block for the reference PCB from Alphacool before I had bought a GPU. It is compatible with heap of SKUs, so I just grabbed the first one at a reasonable price.

And it's not just the reference boards that have overlapping compatibility. TUF/Astral/Strix used to share PCB a lot of time (but not this gen). MSI/Gigabyte often have a bunch of cards that share one of their own PCBs as well.

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chefchef97@reddit

Funny, here in the UK prices seemed to be a bit more stable than in Europe during the launch window, much closer to RRP

But they've stayed there since or have even gone up, so we're not seeing this dip

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PhyrexianSpaghetti@reddit

What's with the naming convention?

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angry_RL_player@reddit

MSRP for the 9070 in Germany is 629?