XPO offer- would you take it?

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

What do you want to know? I work for XPO currently and can answer anything.

PS: linehaul is slow on the east coast right now but if I sit for one day linehaul, I make several hundred more than I do working overtime P&D. Something to keep in mind.

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More_Claim_82@reddit

Do they still have programs for new drivers up to 1 to 3 months experience?

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If they need drivers they’ll hire you - what they do for new drivers vs experienced is have different pay tiers. Example: our terminal pays $30 and change an hour from 0-1 year, $34 and change 1-2 and $38 and change 2+ and we all get annual COL raises

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More_Claim_82@reddit

Thank you for the feedback. Appreciate it a lot. I'll get back at you for any more questions if you may. Thank you bro.

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

Of course my man, stay safe and feel free to ask away!

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

How do you make more? Just curious how that works out. Also, if you’re saying it’s slow, does that mean that even though I’d be full time, I may not get full time hours or my hours might have a lot of variance week to week?

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

So when I say slow, I mean generally you run Monday night through Friday night weekend starts Saturday morning and ends Monday morning.

There’s a whole sector that dictates how many drivers each terminal sends out each night. Sometimes it’s all of the drivers, sometimes they only need say 8 out of 10 for example.

From there it goes by seniority starting with the longest running employee to see who is sitting and who is not. As a new employee you don’t have any say basically. If everyone else wants to run, you have to sit.

Freight is really slow right now so I’ve been sitting once or twice a week. So yes, I’m full time but only work 3 or 4 days sometimes. Once freight picks back up, you never get a break, you will run every night. Vacation times you will probably never get a day off aside from weekends.

Being a new employee you will always work the most hours (at least at the FAC we outbound to due to management). I usually drive 3 hours there, work the dock about 4 hours, then drive three hours back.

I got my license through XPO so started at the lowest pay scale. I average about $2000/wk gross in a lower paid terminal (very rural east coast state).

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

Thank you so much for the insight! This helps immensely

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

Of course! Anything else, feel free to ask.

PS, the dock really isn’t that bad lol.

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

Dude the dock work doesn’t really sound that bad tbh lol

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1morepl8@reddit

I did food service to put money in the bank and get experience while waiting for my insurance to drop. On here it sounds like Vietnam, and in reality I made 120k a year slinging boxes and dealing with no bullshit except my own load. I loved it as a job, but just had different goals in trucking.

If you've sat on your ass your whole life dock work seems daunting, if you busted your ass for peanuts before; it's suddenly laughable.

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

It’s not lmao. When you’re linehaul, our FAC just has drivers break trailers. So literally open it, scan, it’ll tell you where to take it, drop it in front of the door, scan the door go back and keep rolling. I pop in an AirPod and basically zone out in autopilot for a few hours lol.

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tonythebutcher13@reddit

Are you in Maine?

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

Yes I am

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tonythebutcher13@reddit

Ha! Me too, I'm at Duie, sitting in Mass right now

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highlyelevated_207@reddit

Been looking to switch to Duie or Estes, tired of sitting so much, I live 3 hours north so I’m away from my family when I’m working and sitting is such a waste of time away from my family. How is you all’s linehaul doing? Everyone running? Or are you guys sitting some too?

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tonythebutcher13@reddit

I've never sat yet, I'm outta Pittsfield Maine and we were looking for another linehaul guy, there was a spot in Saco also.

It's just 2 of us is Pittsfield though Max is 3 and I've had about 55 hours every week give or take, where you at man?

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l337manic@reddit

Current XPO line haul here. I also came from flatbed at a mega in Missouri. I am in Utah now and it's pretty great being home every day. I am 1 week out from being here a year and on track to make 95. If I volunteer for more dock work or weekend runs I could crack 100 no problem.

Ask me anything lol

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InvestigatorBroad114@reddit

You run out of SLC terminal? You run 80 or 15? CPM?

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l337manic@reddit

Yes SLC, I make .83/cpm and 35/hr when not driving

We do routes on both roads all directions

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InvestigatorBroad114@reddit

How much dock work is there? You average 50 hrs a week or more?

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l337manic@reddit

I average like probably 35hrs a week. I think I worked the dock less than 5hrs since I started.

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InvestigatorBroad114@reddit

They offer dock to driver programs don’t they?1

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l337manic@reddit

I'm pretty sure, there are a couple guys I know personally that did that.

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InvestigatorBroad114@reddit

I’m gonna have to look into XPO man, I’d be running out of the SLC terminal if I did, you guys slip seat tractors or get assigned one?

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l337manic@reddit

We slip seat assigned tractors, mine is usually driven by one dude during the day. That's not always the case. I really do like this company, everything they promised they have kept.

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InvestigatorBroad114@reddit

Gonna have to look into it definitely

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yungsnipe17@reddit

I’m with Saia running city right now, as far as I know Saia and R&L are one of the few LTL’s where you do not have to work the dock, and that goes for city driving and linehaul. My experience with Saia has been great, it’s slow right now but it is what it is. I have a lot of friends working for R&L and they love it …. XPO is a good company and they pay well, you will have some dock work with XPO so keep that in mind !

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sr135792@reddit

What does dock work entail? Just unloading the truck after you pick up?

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Nero-Danteson@reddit

Pretty much, just loading/unloading trailers. Sometimes it's done when they don't have a run for you.

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sr135792@reddit

Why don’t people like that? I’d take a day in off the road occasionally

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Nero-Danteson@reddit

Lazy. Think that they have a CDL and are above manual labor

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More_Claim_82@reddit

Do SAIA & R&L still have have dock to driver program this 2025?

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Financial-Walk-4660@reddit

I know Saia does. No idea on R&L

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More_Claim_82@reddit

I'm gonna check Saia then. There is a warehouse near our place. Thanks.

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More_Claim_82@reddit

I'm gonna call them or go to them directly.

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PontoonDood@reddit

No dock work at Southeastern Freight Lines either.

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nexusprax@reddit

My uncle has been with xpo for 25+ years and he still has to work the dock 🤣

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JankyMark@reddit

I wanna try to get one of those gigs and get out of otr soon

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yungsnipe17@reddit

Yes, I’d recommend Saia. We don’t get OT until after 45 hrs and usually start later in the mornings around 9:00 which I’m not a fan of. We get free insurance after 10 years as well and yearly cost of living raises. If you want to go Linehaul depending on where you live they may have daytime Linehaul runs, not all of Saias Linehaul is ran at night.

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JankyMark@reddit

Yeah I do otr regional so i usually see a lot of saia, xpo, abf, and r+l hauling doubles and stuff. I’m going to look into it

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Bonus77@reddit

Not sure about XPO, but for Fedex Freight linehaul is easy money. Way less stress than local p & d. Just get a show time and hook and book. Pay is .80 cpm plus you get hourly rates for fueling, hooking, and unhooking and any detention you might have.

Starting out does suck though. Until you get seniority, you will probably get shorter runs to other terminals, then run a forklift for a few hours on the hub, but still beats the city. I did city for 5 years, and the oversized crap you have to deliver on liftgates, impossible appointment times, working the dock after doing your route and swaps are just too frustrating.

Way less stress and much more money for linehaul. They make 25k more on average than city. Our top route does 130k yearly, whereas a city driver working close to the same 11 hrs a day will make just over 100 to 110k max.

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Ok_Bug_6470@reddit

I would go linehaul if I knew then what I know now, 100%. If you’ve done flatbed for a while you will always have that experience if you want to go back to it. I have well over ten years experience, great refs, clean cdl and psp and safe record, no issues at all and can’t get a call returned from any linehaul places. Not one .

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supajaboy@reddit

Maybe it's the market now why they are not calling back? What division you work in now?

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Ok_Bug_6470@reddit

Market doesn’t really affect drivers with a certain amount of experience. I think I went thru shitty recruiters instead of the company itself. And they are notorious for not submitting the app if they aren’t getting a bonus to fill that slot. Not gonna lie but a lot of places do not like veterans.

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Charlie_Hustler@reddit

I don't work for XPO specifically but I do work for another Big LTL company and it's a solid gig. Youll probably start out on the Xtra board but give it a couple of years and you'll be making some good money

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snownight77@reddit

Went from otr to linehaul with Averitt. .80cpm and $35.60 while on dock. Only the very busy terminals let you work the dock so in the winter it’s normal to only work 2-3 days a week if your on bottom of seniority if your based out of a terminal that don’t allow dock work. It’s also not busy here in the southeast

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thellamaspantz@reddit

If your single jump on it, try something new. If you have a family at home, think hard about the nightshift aspect. Climbing into a truck after 3 days of 3 hrs sleep cause the whole house is active when ur laying down is not a good time.

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Tribbis@reddit

Currently a year into xpo. Worked for a mega, then a family otr company, now xpo. I start at either 8 or 8:30 and I’m done at 6-8 am. I run our shortest run and work 1-3 hours a night on the dock. Gonna bring in like 95k pretax after the first pay raise you get. After that it’s something like 110k after 2 years. If I ran our long runs it would be like 140k but the extra 2 hours of home life a day is worth it in my eyes. I won’t be switching companies unless ups came calling me but I don’t see that happening ever. I’m perfectly happy here. The major drawbacks is the corporate rules and the seemingly willingness to fire over minor stuff. One guy, granted we don’t know how true his part of the story is, was on his final strike due to freight damages because someone hit a barrel at another terminal and the damage got charged to him.

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Waste-Smoke-7051@reddit

Go for it you will mostly likely start 8 -9 pm and be done anywhere from 8 to 10am ish I was in ltl for about 15 years if you have any questions

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

What was the hardest thing for you to get used to in LTL? What did you see former OTR guys have issues with starting out? What did you do after LTL, if anything?

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MiguelSTG@reddit

I work LTL. The biggest problem I see is when drivers are required to work the dock. They act like a forklift is the biggest insult in the world. Then there is recouping freight that is dumped over.

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doggscube@reddit

Depends on the terminal and how far it runs. I left because I was going to be stuck on a 98 mile run with hours of dock work and the nightly stress of wondering if I was going to get an overflow (“via”) run somewhere to make some real money. That same terminal lost its long money making run so I wouldn’t recommend it at all unless it’s to get in to go to the city at bid time

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Echotango075@reddit

Must be nice to have my dream 🥲

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

I’ll live it for the both of us, brother

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Echotango075@reddit

I have a buddy who works P&D at XPO in Phoenix he enjoys it. Linehaul is top of the food chain pay for being home everyday but yeah it’s always a night shift

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Wasatchbl@reddit

Not XPO, but line haul for three different companies. It will suck at the start. You will have to work different shifts, some bad runs and sometimes not make as much money as you thought. But if I knew then what I know now, I would have done this at age 23 and been retired by now. It is the easiest way to make north of 85,000 a year. Every year, for the rest of your career

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

That’s probably been the biggest factor in swaying me towards doing it. It seems like the path to making 100k or more is a lot more clear in this line of work than almost any other one, for a company driver.

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Wasatchbl@reddit

If you can stick it out, depending on the terminal, You will move up and get better runs. And it's super easy, just lifting the dollies to hook your doubles. Come winter time sometimes it sucks with the roads and chains, but I'm out west

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thedailyworkwr@reddit

I would take it, they compensate you for everything you do. Pays pretty well. Usually make upwards of 6 figures

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JankyMark@reddit

I say go for it

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Kkalemauser@reddit

Yes.

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icy_penguins@reddit

Buddy of mine does overnight linehaul for them, you have to do dockwork most nights at your destination terminal but you get paid for it. He makes 6 figures there and he just started in the last year

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Gonzotrucker1@reddit

You will also work the Dock driving a forklift but get hourly pay for that time.

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Comprehensive-Let232@reddit

I worked for XPO for a couple months. They pay well. I left because I hated dock work

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

What did you hate about it?

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Comprehensive-Let232@reddit

Its hard to really say. I guess I found it annoying watching senior guys come in from the yard and leave why I had to get on a lift. I did p&d. When there are some many people running in and out of trailers, it makes playing tetris with different size pallets difficult.

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Comprehensive-Let232@reddit

And if you get a short line haul. You will spend almost the entire just being a forklift driver. During my week of training line haul, we would drive from Omaha to KC, spend 8 hours unloading/loading trailers, and drive back to the yard.

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peffer32@reddit

Worked with a guy who came from XPO linehaul. He started on the extra board and was on call. Get the call, roll in, drive to another terminal, work the dock for a few hours, drive back. He got sick off the dock work and the uneven work schedule. He quit and came to foodservice so I guess he really didn't like it.

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yungpattyWOP@reddit (OP)

Luckily this is FT out the gate, but I get it

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peffer32@reddit

That's a plus. I think he would have put up with the dock work if he could have got a steady schedule. Good luck.