Aging population of Plano
Posted by FlirtAndSquirt1@reddit | plano | View on Reddit | 22 comments
Has anyone noticed that Everytime I go to the grocery store or out in public it’s all old people? The bars are filled with pot belly bald dads. Why is everything still so expensive here if everyone’s old? Doesn’t Plano want young families to maintain the population? Even worse, the churches have become memory care centers for senior citizens. What gives?
FunNeedleworker7726@reddit
Yes, Plano does want young families to come in and maintain the population...and so do the current residents! But no one wants to do any of the actions that would enable that...empty nesters downsizing from a 5bedroom, building more medium density housing, etc.
And to some of the other comments...if your house is paid off, and you're downsizing while staying local, you're moving from a $750K house to a $500K house and now have $250K of cash to do whatever you'd like rather than have it tied up in a house. Also, decreased your tax liability so pretty good incentive to do so.
flilmawinstone@reddit
Clearly you are not one of these people who aren’t moving due to supposed laziness. I am and there’s no homes to downsize to that would have positive math.
heinzenfeinzen@reddit
It's no secret that the population of Plano is aging! It was the up and coming place to move to for young couples and families starting out in the 1990s. That's 30 years ago. So those people are all 30 years older.
The other factor for younger people not replacing these people is that they are NOT moving out of their houses because there's no where to downsize to.
Many empty nester living in a 4 bedroom, 2 story home with a lot of yard work would love to move to a smaller, 3 bedroom, single story home with little to no yard but where is that home??? The existing homes that meet that criteria are older, need a lot of work or are in less desirable areas. So then how about new construction? All the new construction is expensive, 3 story townhouses.
If the city wants to "turnover" the housing market then they need to build "patio" homes that provide something that seniors in large empty houses can downsize to.
XperTeeZ@reddit
When you set your mind to a certain something and crowd out everything else, then that's all you'll see is.
Open your mind up. Maybe your eyes too...
There are tons of very young, young, tween, teen, adult, middle-aged, and all in between here. So I don't know what the fuck you're yapping about here.
MourningShits@reddit
Literally the data of enrollment for Plano ISD and school aged kids. It’s not a perception thing, it’s cold hard data.
XperTeeZ@reddit
Has nothing to do with only old people being out and about.
I understand that people have been having less children for a while now. That will undoubtedly relate to lower rates of children in schools...
throwaway79755@reddit
https://data.census.gov/table/ACSDP1Y2023.DP05?q=DP05+Plano+City
Age structure of Plano
Correct_Roll_3005@reddit
As a pot bellied, bald dad I resemble that remark. The overall tone of this is offensive, but alright. I bought my house here in 2000, raised a kid in the great schools and enjoy this town. The municipality has little to do with the cost of things. Try doing it elsewhere for cheaper. Whippersnapper jerkface.
Realistic-Pay-6931@reddit
Second this comment
MutedTechnology8644@reddit
Go to Trader Joe’s on Park Preston. Plenty of young people.
Realistic-Pay-6931@reddit
And every recreation center during basketball and swim times.
This-Speech4659@reddit
This whole city is old white dudes and Indians.
wbd3434@reddit
People like to downvote accurate statements.
This-Speech4659@reddit
Yup. Not sure what the downvotes are about but those two demographics are the fastest growing in Plano.
aek82@reddit
It depends on where you go. Sure my neighborhood is full of 55-65+ but the rec centers in the afternoons are full of kids playing sports.
Overall though, the adult population does skew older. Its not exactly a place known for pop culture or art.
TheSpivack@reddit
Plano schools are closing due to declining enrollment rates, so it's not just in your head. With having done no research at all, my guess is that the young families that made up Plano in the 90s/2000s have aged but not moved out to let in the new, young families. Also Plano has gotten more expensive, so the families with young kids are now moving way further north to cheaper land with still good schools - Prosper, Celina, etc.
Swirls109@reddit
It's that, but also oddly grandparents are moving back after their retire to live closer to their kids who are having kids. So the houses for sale are going to empty nesters too. We sold our house last year and that was the exact scenario. Apparently they got the idea from some of their friends that did the same thing.
bassakwardsbass@reddit
Also agree. because I’m part of that migration. Moved from Plano to prosper in 2020 partly because there were exactly 3 kids on our street in Plano. In prosper it’s 32 on a similar sized street.
I lived where we were in Plano (75023) but it just wasn’t a long term fit with our goals/desires
GoodIntelligent2867@reddit
Makes sense. I am in the same zip code 75023 and it is mostly older people on my street. My husband talks about moving to prosper/ n. Mckinney once our child gets done with school.
But I understand why people want to keeping living in Plano. It is kinda in the middle of the Dallas metroplex and has access to GBT, 75, tollway and 121, which the northern suburbs still lack. Also for those working in downtown, las Colinas, Addison - the drive from prosper, celina etc would be hell with traffic and tolls. I know of families where each spouse pays over 400 for tolls per month. I would rather buy an older but expensive house in Plano than pay ridiculous toll and use the toll money towards my equity
In short, I see why people want to keep living here despite beautiful communities booming in Celina, prosper etc.
So many people in my neighborhood have paid an arm and leg to fix their foundations and change their pipes in their 40+ years old homes but they still see value in staying put.
Dragooncancer@reddit
As a teacher in Plano ISD, this is exactly it. A lotta empty nesters in Plano right now.
North_Maybe1998@reddit
I would’ve loved to move to Plano with my two young kids but too expensive ended up buying a house in Wylie… still expensive but better value for the house I got compared to what’s available in Plano
uselesslyalive@reddit
Just my observation and deduction from living here for 30+ years.
People can't afford to move houses like they used to. Used to be you buy a small starter house before kids and after a kid or two you move to a bigger nicer house. Then maybe an even better house when they get older or you add more kids. Then after the kids move away you downsize. It's not feasible to do that anymore. Even if people could afford a midsize house there aren't any because people can't afford to move out and now the house is paid off; so why move.
Also, seems to me that the only ones scooping up the for-sale houses are the companies or groups that turn them into rent houses. Probably because there is a market since people can't afford to buy. That's what I'm seeing a lot of in my area at least.