Turkish athlete throws medal into the Nile after sanction for pro-Palestine gesture
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AideSpartak@reddit
Idk even know why Israel is still allowed to participate in international sport championships. If Russia is excluded they should be as well
anotherboringdj@reddit
Russia attacked a free and independent country without any reason. Israel stroke back after ppl were attacked by hamas on a music festival.
So just use your brain a bit
ilya_fed3@reddit
we didn’t attack ukraine for no reason. they took a land which wasn’t theirs and paid the price by using Americans and NATO to provoke us.
anotherboringdj@reddit
This is a lie, Putin’s nonsense propaganda.
ilya_fed3@reddit
I promise you this isn’t propaganda. I don’t just watch the news in my country. I read articles from both sides and compare them.
anotherboringdj@reddit
That is also propaganda. Russia has no rights at all to attack Ukraine.
ilya_fed3@reddit
No country has the right to attack anyone regardless! Now can we not get carried away in politics?
anotherboringdj@reddit
These are facts.
Secure_Stand_8643@reddit
Israel is carrying out genocide. There is no excuse. Women and children did not carry out that attack, but they're paying for it every day. So... Where your brain at, bro?
anotherboringdj@reddit
Its not a genocide
kayodeade99@reddit
It is. I think I'll take the opinions of genocide experts over a random redditor that might be posting from a bot farm in Tel Aviv for all we know 🤷🏾♂️
Astolfo432@reddit
Its kinda fighting to see so many degenerate morons Like you who fall for terrorist Propaganda
ApprehensiveBit884@reddit
Around 70% of buildings were destroyed in small, densly populated area of about 2mil people. According to Hamas data, about 50.000 people are killed so far, including terrotists. Look at conflicts around the region, hundreds of thousands dead. If Israel wanted, he could've carpet bombed Gaza
Dry_Razzmatazz69@reddit
Not to say a lot of the gaza strip isn't demolished, but you can literally wipe your ass with the paper that study is printed on, and it would make it more valuable. Hamas has a history as long as its life of proving it can't be trusted.
anotherboringdj@reddit
Im not a bot, you do not know what you are talking about, it’s not a genocide. Are you one of the member of Hamas or one of the criminals organizing pro-P protests?
Bannedfromred93@reddit
When even Israeli experts themselves are calling it a genocide, your opinion is irrelevant 👇🏻 . "This is exactly what a Genocide looks like." - Dr. Amos Goldberg (Professor of Holocaust History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) . "Its no longer possible to deny that Israel is engaged in systematic war crimes against humanity & genocidal actions." -Omer Bartov (Israeli historian and Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies) . "A Textbook case of Genocide" - Dr. Raz Segal (Israeli historian, Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Stockton University) . 'War in Gaza is a Genocide': 124-page report by Israeli Historian Lee Mordechai details atrocities against Palestinians . "There's No Auschwitz in Gaza. But It's Still Genocide" -Dr Daniel Blatman (Israeli Historian, Head at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) . "Dr. Regev Nathansohn from Israel's Sapir College, is 1 of 24 Israeli academics who have signed a petition which characterizes Israel’s conduct as “plausible genocide.” . "Israeli lawyer Omer Shatz files landmark genocide case against the Israeli government" (Haaretz, 24 Jan 2025) . "If Netanyahu continues the genocide in Gaza, there will never be peace" Daniel Levy, Former Israeli Negotiator . "Israeli citizenship has always been a tool of genocide, so i’m renouncing mine" - Avi Steinberg (Israeli Author) . "Occupy, annex, ethnically cleanse, they are essentially cleansing the area of Arabs to make way for Jewish settlements” - Moshe Ya'alon, ex-IDF Chief of Staff (30 Nov 2024, Democrat TV) . "After debate, Oxford Union overwhelmingly votes: Israel is an apartheid state committing genocide" (Oxford Union, 29 Nov 2024) . 300 page report concludes: "Israel is comitting genocide in Gaza" (Amnesty International, 4 Dec 2024) . "Israel committing acts of genocide" (N.Y Based Human Rights Watch in their 184-page Report, 19 Dec 2024) . "U.S complicit in Israel's genocide" - Colombia University Professor Jeffrey Sachs (An American Jew and one of the world's leading experts on global macroeconomics - according to US congress) . Dutch Investigation: Top genocide scholars unanimous that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza (NRC, 14 May 2025) . Gaza war death toll 41% significantly higher than reported, researchers say (Guardian, 10 Jan 2025) . "Gaza's population down 6% since start of war" - CBC News (Jan 2025) . "Nearly 70% of Gaza war dead women and children, majority of the deaths represented by children aged 5-9 yrs old" (U.N Report, 8 Nov 2024) . "Israel identified as the single largest perpetrator of civilian harm in 2024, accounting for 55% of all civilian casualties from explosive weapons globally" (Newsweek, 14 Jan 2025) . "Children are being shot twice by IDF snipers..I didn't see one military combatant, either walking around or as a patient..Its almost exclusively children" - Jewish-American surgeon Dr Mark Perlmutter . "The children seemed to be specifically hit by quadcopters. Lots of them were shot in the back, head and upper torso" - British Surgeon Victoria Rose . "As a surgeon in Gaza, I witnessed hell visited on children. I saw them killed by sniper fire and drones. The drones would come down and pick off civilians - children." - Former Clinical Lead at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust in London, Dr Nizam Mamode . "I am an eyewitness to the Genocide in Gaza" - Chinese-Canadian Dr. Yipeng Ge, Canadian Public Health Association Board of Directors and a volunteer in Gaza
anotherboringdj@reddit
Antisemitic bs
Bannedfromred93@reddit
Yes the Jewish-Israeli professor of Holocaust studies, very anti-semitic indeed
Hizur@reddit
Lmao, you guys seriously believe ukraine war started in 2017 and palestine war started in 2020s??? This is insane. Also ukraine was never independent.
Third_Charm@reddit
Ukraine is and was for sure independent, denying this is just lying to yourself; aka being a regarded person
Hizur@reddit
No, nothing is independent - especially ukraine, always depended on russia,germany and israel. Alright, maybe israel is independent, but Russia is dependent to China, and China is dependent to Europe - it's a circle of slavery and colonialism.
ficapro@reddit
Lmao
ilya_fed3@reddit
I agree it’s not fair. Plus these aren’t politicians who are participating, these are just people.
WearScary4540@reddit
Why is Turkey allowed to participate despite bombing Yazidi and Assyrian villages right now?
AideSpartak@reddit
Idk man ask whoever is in charge of that. I don’t know whether Turkey is committing genocide like Israel is rn, but if it is, it should also be disqualified.
Potential-Analysis-4@reddit
Russia's invasian was unprovoked. Israel's war on Hamas is totally proportional
AideSpartak@reddit
Yes, purposefully genociding tens of thousands kids is very proportional
Potential-Analysis-4@reddit
That isn't what is happening. Hamas launched a savage terrorist attack on Oct 7, taking hostages that remain to this day.
To compare it to 9/11 : another terrorist attack with a similar death toll (although no hostages were taken that required rescuing), millions were killed in the subsequent war on terror. Were US and allies committing genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Hamas still has hostages from Oct 7, almost 2 years later. Israel literally cannot stop until the hostages are returned. Any pressure or crying or negotiating is not going to have any effect until Hamas return the hostages. Only then can the war in Gaza start to wrap up.
AideSpartak@reddit
Lmao the whitewashing. What’s happening isn’t anything new, it’s not like the settler colonial state that is Israel just peacefully appeared in the region
The Israeli army has been purposefully killing children. More than 20 000 at this point. It has nothing to do with “freeing hostages”.
Regardless idc to continue this conversation, since I’m not really to keen on speaking with someone who sees no problem with a literal genocide happening right now
iboreddd@reddit
This. Beside all religious discussions, what they did is obvious and has no justifications
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
If we are letting Turkey pretend it isn’t waging illegal wars against its neighbors we can do the same for Israel.
Battlefleet_Sol@reddit
Turkey did not slaughter 50.000+ people or prison them in small square km
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
Uhh have you read about the ISIS prison full of kids in Syria, you know Turkey was absolutely involved in the conflict that created that? And I am not even sure we know how many people Turkey has killed in Syria, they have been bombing parts of it for 10 years. People just tend to give Turks a pass and there’s been almost no major reporting on Turkey’s behaviors.
You can find the West generally ignores bad Turk behavior going back to 1920z
Jamess_Bond@reddit
Oh i remember you, weren't you the one whos country sinks refugee boats in the middle of the sea then brag about it?
ExtEmreD@reddit
Your comment is extremely one-sided and ignores the broader context of the Syrian conflict. Blaming Turkey for the entire situation is both misleading and unfair. Turkey didn’t start the war in Syria it was a civil war triggered by the Assad regime’s brutal crackdown on its own people. Over the past decade, Turkey has taken in more than 3.5 million Syrian refugees, more than any other country in the world. That’s not something many Western countries, or even regional ones, were willing to do. As for military operations, Turkey’s actions have mostly targeted terrorist groups like the PKK and its Syrian offshoot YPG — groups that even the EU and the US recognize as terrorist organizations. It’s dishonest to talk about “Turkish bombing” without mentioning the endless bombings by Russia, Assad’s forces, the US-led coalition, or Iran-backed militias that have caused massive civilian casualties. The claim that the West has “ignored Turkish behavior since 1920” sounds like historical revisionism rather than a serious analysis. If anything, Turkey has been under constant scrutiny from the West — politically, economically, and militarily. And let’s not forget: during the height of the refugee crisis, it was Europe that begged Turkey to help stem the flow — and then conveniently turned its back when it suited them.if you're going to criticize, at least try to be balanced and honest. Demonizing one country while ignoring the rest is not only intellectually lazy — it’s dangerous.
dushmanim@reddit
Even after almost a decade of Turkish involvement in the war, the casualties caused by the Turkish army are astronomically low compared to other parties, I don't know what you are talking about. And no, Turkey is not involved in the creation of the Syrian War, we were barely involved in the war until 2018 and openly fought against ISIS. Keep beating the straw man, haha
Rejanfic@reddit
Turkey has tried to genocide the kurds for decades to this point, why are we acting like Turkey has any moral ground to talk about genocide? What about eh Armenian? What about the Greeks? What about the Syrians? What about the Kurds? turkey has literally genocide or try to genocide all of his neighbors.-.
Senor-Marston389@reddit
Turkey trained, and financially and logistically supported the Syrian rebels who fought against isis. Turkey itself was also heavily involved in combats with the aforementioned. Get the hell out of here with that orthodox church tainted circlejerk propaganda you tell each other in the coffee house while slacking off the entire day.
Battlefleet_Sol@reddit
Turkey did not create that conflict. America did. ISIS also attacked turkish cities. Turkey did not bomb children and hospitals and thousands of civilians did not die in its operations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suru%C3%A7_bombing
PepsiThriller@reddit
Tbf the linked article does link to another article about the Turkish co-operation with ISIS
Battlefleet_Sol@reddit
Anyone who is an editor on Wikipedia can post articles, but not every article is accurate.
PepsiThriller@reddit
I should've clicked the article ahead anyway. It says some minor Turksish officials had sympathies and may have helped but there is no evidence for the claims the Turkish government supported ISIS and Turkey denies the allegation.
NationalUnrest@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_war_crimes
Here educate yourself on your perfect little country who can no wrong
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
So I guess if America goes in first it is cool to start imitating what they are doing? Is that really the line we want to draw? I seem to recall America dropping nuclear bombs on cities and shit, so that’s probably not a country to use to justify Turkish behavior.
Technicalprob@reddit
you are an actual ape
Wonderful_CG@reddit
You know why? Because Turkey is blackmailing EU with immigrants. In fact it is getting money to keep them and they always ask for more and more. They do not respect any human rights for their own citizens. Also, Turkey is a major hub for energy. Without it Europe could freeze… so it is just economics and politics
PyroSharkInDisguise@reddit
6 billion is a lot of money? Lmao, we have spent ten times that just in the last few years for refugees. Dont act like you are giving much, you dont give shit.
“They always ask for more.”
Of course we will, the money you give doesn’t even cover 1/10th of the cost you muppet.
Wonderful_CG@reddit
You just think so or the governmental propaganda? Your country is one of the reasons the conflict took longer one of the reasons for the many immigrants …
PyroSharkInDisguise@reddit
Is that what you think or what the western propaganda tells you?
PepsiThriller@reddit
Tbf, Im from the UK, about as westernised a country as is possible lol. We barely think about Turkey at all. It's not often on our news.
Last time there were major news items about anything Turkish that I recall was about joint British-Turkish support of Ukraine.
ictp42@reddit
How much do you think the EU is paying us and what is your source?
EKrug_02_22@reddit
Lol. Turkey have waaay more kurds in it's borders. Literally the most kurds in the world lives in Turkey. Those few kurds literally nothing. Turkey involved with them because they were attacking Turkish cities from other side of the border. They didn't behave.
Hahaha. They would literally kill each other to the eternity. Barzanis, Talabanis, Turkey Kurds, pkk, religious kurds, aşirets (tribals; sometimes have hundreds of thousands of members) etc etc unending circle of civil war will happen. They also would not have any airway, highway, sea access etc. Literally they would isolate themselves to death spiral. Do you really think having "enemies" on your all of borders makes like easier?
Also, if you somehow got separated from Turkey, Turkey would prosper. We wouldn't need to throw money to pit hole with no return of investments. They literally suck out money.
hilmiira@reddit
"Land that belongs to them" actually "belonged" to armenians. The Kurds existence in anatolia starts with Ottoman/Sasavi wars. And Kurds were in fact allies of the Turks in the conflict. South east anatolia is pretty far away from eastern iran and south mesopotamia.
Soo question, if both armenians and kurds claim the same land. Van for example. Whic one of the occupied and terrorized of the minority people getting it? Who is more righteous? For getting a better insight you can look at violence that happened in 1915. And how both people interacted in lack of a third common power to hate...
Turkey doesnt terrorize or occupy anyone. The whole point of the conflict is that Turkey actually have no right to military action other than operations on some killometers away from its border to ensure no hostile entity forms in there. Unlike what certain people claim it is solely politics based rather than ethnicy and you dont automatically go to prison camp if youre a kurd in Turkey. Unlike what happened in romania during a not far away period of time.
ictp42@reddit
Turkey's involvement in Syria is nowhere on the same level as what Israel is doing in Gaza.
You know what is comparable to Turkish involvement in Syria? Israeli involvement in Syria.
I mean how is the existence of ISIS children in a Kurdish jail in Syria any more Turkey's fault that Israels?
Israel and ISIS never even fought a single battle. You can't say the same for Turkey. The initial Turkish reaction to ISIS was to leave them alone to balance the Syrian branch of the PKK, but after they blew up a few bombs in Turkey the government had no other option but to fight them.
The Israeli reaction to ISIS was to bomb the Iranians and let ISIS take the weapons they left behind instead of bombing those too.
The most you can say is that Turkey bought ISIS oil, but so did all of Europe once it was rebranded as Kurdish in Erbil. I would extremely surprised if there weren't any Greek vessels shipping it.
dushmanim@reddit
Its like saying
KazuyaProta@reddit
Turkey literally fought ISIS. The "Turkey supports ISIS" is complaining that ISIS didn't execute their POWs
Volaer@reddit
Indeed, it infamously slaughtered over 2 million at the beginning of this century.
Battlefleet_Sol@reddit
The same goes for the Balkan Turks, who displaced millions of Balkan Turks through genocide?
Dry_Razzmatazz69@reddit
Ha! Well i guess if you consider armenians or pkk members to be people
Prize_Self_6347@reddit
Smyrna 1922. Turkey has done that in less square km.
Battlefleet_Sol@reddit
The same applies to the Greeks, did the Greek army distribute roses when entering Anatolia in 1920 and we are not living in 1922
Anastasia_of_Crete@reddit
Turkey has killed tens of thousand in northern syria alone
Impossible-Ad218@reddit
Armenia and Greece would say otherwise
Ok_Anybody_8307@reddit
So that is when your conscience kicks in, criticizing an illegal war is too high a bar if the land in question was a larger square kilometer??
Jamess_Bond@reddit
I think we shouldnt let autistic people use reddit
Pantolonun_Utulusu@reddit
What illegal war are you talking about? Greece is a neighbour, can you name the last time a Greek died because of Turkey?
Atvaaa@reddit
Illegal wars where? Besides Cyprus there are no contest for legality of Turkish presence abroad. Wheras Israel continuously breached international law and challenged the ICJ.
Don't write for the sake of it you look stupid.
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
Sorry are you actually unaware Turkey has been occupying parts of Syria outside of any legal norms for a decade lol. Turkish planes have literally been bombing parts of Syria for 10 years.
Atvaaa@reddit
It's not illegal? There are cases attacks carried out on Turkish frontier from Syria. Its the US and Israel who illegaly invaded.
SventasKefyras@reddit
Syrian terrorists attack Turkey = turkey is justified in occupying foreign territory and it's the fault of America somehow.
Palestinian terrorists attack Israel = Israel is not justified in occupying foreign territory and it's the fault of America somehow.
Spot the difference in these statements and ask yourself why you're able to justify the former while denouncing the latter.
Atvaaa@reddit
Unlike Turkey, israel doesn't occupy. It cleansed the Gaza strip from infrastructure and inhabitants. It really shouldn't be that hard to spot the difference unless you are a neandarthal lmao.
And fyi, TR did build infrastructure and still conducts repatriation projects to make Syria inhabitable again. We should never have entered Syria, but Ahmet Davutoğlu (ex Erdoğan PM) and his islamic brotherhood shenanigans put us into deep shit.
Ofc a clueless redditor wouldn't know.
SventasKefyras@reddit
Oh, that's news. So everyone has been wiped out and the entirety of gaza is a glass floor with no a soul alive, yes?
Naturally a dumbass Turk would believe that.
Atvaaa@reddit
A considerable amount of the strip is cleansed of life yes. Why are you so purposefully dense?
SventasKefyras@reddit
Sorry, is bombing the shit out of a place and then erecting other structures in place of what you destroyed make it okay to invade neighbors? Are you actually braindead?
The US invasion of Iraq was good then. They overthrew a dictator and gave power to the people. So it's all kosher.
Equivalent_Range6291@reddit
The US invasion was not good!
Over 130,000 innocent people died in that war thanks to US/UK.
SventasKefyras@reddit
So why are you trying to justify Turkish occupation of Syrian territory?
Atvaaa@reddit
Turkish ops had the least civillian casualties out of any actor in the Syrian wars. Unlike Israel, TR had targets and wasn't blasting everywhere out of hatred for Arabs 😀
Again what type of comparison is that you are actually retarded. You know that casus belli is legit under international law? Americans made up a reason but there were suicide and rocket attacks in Turkish metropoles. This is the difference.
Equivalent_Range6291@reddit
You Are a racist troll.
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
Ah, much like there were Palestinian attacks on Israel’s border? Lol. This is Turk playbook 101: Turkey has never done wrong, the only perfect country on earth. Every other country does bad things.
Atvaaa@reddit
The foundation of Israel is very controvercial too. There is no organic invade-intermingle dynamic in todays Palestine. Israel is a settler colonial apartheid state, you must recognize that.
And of course we did wrong stuff, like 1950 istanbul pogrom and Kahramanmaraş massacres. We don't fit in your euro wannave steryotypez, fuck yourself in the ass racist ziobot pos.
insitnctz@reddit
Turkey has many similarities with Israel. Let's not forget how many genocides you committed under the same excuses as Israel. Even now you occupy lands of a foreign country illegally. I don't get what you are trying to defend.
Atvaaa@reddit
Ffs this wasn't even about Turkey 😀
The entire time I'm saying the ATHLETE is in the right for protesting Israel. Because they are cleansing the Gaza strip.
I am not defending Turkey. In the way they operate Israel is much different than Turkey. If you think by saying this I am trying to whitewash TR you must be daft.
Not even Americans had the balls to act as obviously arrogant and bloodthirsty as Israel. ERDOĞAN SUPPORTS ISRAEL WHY WOULD I DEFEND ANY SHITTY STATE?
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
The foundation of Turkey is pretty controversial too when the Turks decided the end of the Ottoman Empire meant “time to genocide everyone out of Anatolia who isn’t a Turk.”
SahinKama@reddit
So we genocided kurds + laz people too? Good job for us.
Atvaaa@reddit
Maybe the modern republic. Zionism predates Turkish nationalism.
Left-Equivalent3467@reddit
There are a lot of attacks carried out on Israel frontier from Palestine.
Especiallu 07.10.2023
iboreddd@reddit
You cannot make a comment without whataboutism, can you?
TXDobber@reddit
See, you say that, but if I were to bring up the Armenian genocide, you would respond with “Armenian gangs started it, they sided with Russians, they murdered Turks” or “what about the millions of Balkan Turks killed by Serbs/Bulgarians/Greeks”… he’s right. Turkey doesnt actually care about what’s happening in Gaza, they care about who’s doing it.
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
I didn’t even want to bring Armenia up because it is always the same conversation with them when you do. But yes, that’s the crux of it.
BTW fuck Israel for intentionally violating humanitarian norms, but I’m just not willing for give someone throwing their medals away a pass when his own country is actively doing bad stuff too.
And I absolutely know other countries have done their own bad things, I’m not trying to single out Turkey, the US, or any other country specifically. We all need to be better at looking inward. But it was a Turk making this performative show and we are supposed to pretend Turkey are just Good Boys of Europe whose involvement in European cultural organizations is just completely fine while Erdogan is bombing Syria for 10 years and turning the country into an Islamist dictatorship.
Massive_Emu6682@reddit
The problem with your take is that Turkey is not in a direct war with anyone. The reason why people compare Israel with Russia is this. Russia was a major problem maker all around the world (including Syria which they damaged Syrian landscape even more than Isis probably), but because it was more of an "operation" rather than "war" they weren't condemned and isolated to the level they are right now.
As you suggested, lots of big and regional powers are implementing bad policies right now. But war is a whole different situation.
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
Bro there literally a swathe of northern Syria that is occupied by Turkish and Turkish backed forces for 10 years. Turkish planes been bombing Syria for 10 years. What exactly is that if not a war? Lol.
Massive_Emu6682@reddit
Are there active wars between Turkish forces and local forces? Does Turkey try to invade a land with the intention of occupation? Like in Cyprus for instance? What are the death tolls after this "Turkish occupation"? Do you really support the idea of calling an operation a war that neither side didn't claimed as so?
Or okay I'll give an example from Israel itself. When Israel occupied Syrian lands for its security claims, or when they bombed Syria for, again, security reasons from their perspective. Did anyone called those operations as war? War is something else than these operations.
insitnctz@reddit
Man do you even read your own comments? You are constantly contradicting yourself.
Massive_Emu6682@reddit
Could you show me one contradiction?
Fearless_Entry_2626@reddit
So you understand this, but make this argument 🤔
Massive_Emu6682@reddit
Ukraine called this war from the get-go, which it is. Kinda embarrassing that you think you get a gatcha moment without not knowing anything about the topic lmao.
Fearless_Entry_2626@reddit
And the Syrian kurds say it is a war too, so I guess it is... stay mad Turcope. Erdoniichan won't notice you regardless, or do they pay you a lira per post?
Massive_Emu6682@reddit
Okay, then I'll call your comments against me a war personally, so technically what you're doing right now is a war crime. See how easy it is to start a war when there's no legitimate end to the claim.
From the styles of comments, it is obvious who is actually mad.
DranzerKNC@reddit
Your country literally rents African countries to kick Syrian refugees out of UK when it is only few compared to millions in Turkey. Your government literally killed the peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia for its own benefits that led to hundred thousands of more casualties from each side. Your museums literally filled with stolen artifacts. Your countrymen genocide entire North American natives. You made sure bloodshed never stops whichever you leaved the ex colonies once belonged to you.
And here you are shamelessly talking about Armenian Genocide and Syrian refugees. You British always been butthurt when it comes to Turks since remnants of our former glory were still able to sink your “invincible” navy and took loads of your generals as captives. Don’t try to dare teaching me my own history. You are no longer the empire sun never sets. You should be more concerned about facts for your own sake.
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
There’s an old saying about people in glass houses throwing stones. I think a Turk should get their own violent and genocidal behaviors under control before protesting bad things elsewhere.
rustyjame5@reddit
Living rent free in the head of deus vulters since 1453.
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
What happened to the turks in greek lands in 1800s alexios?
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
What happened to Greeks in Anatolia in the 1100s , Glittering Spot 2695?
Oh,you realise this game isn't in your favour,right?
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
They were living in glass houses just like you. Try your with whatabaoutism someone else
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
You just did a whataboutism,both with me and with Alexios :D
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
He did it first and i have him his own medicine. Not the sharpest tool in the box are we?
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
No, the Turk athlete did it first and he gave him his own medicine.
:D
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
Cope harder your country did a genocide too 😘
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
whataboutism /s
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
İs talking about armenian genocide when the topic is israel and it's completely irrelevant. So you shouldn't complain when i remind you your own history.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
>it's completely irrelevant
It is only irrelevant cause it doesn;t suit you.
A Turk condemning Israel for denying Palestinians a state while Turkey is forbiding Kurds from even thinking about a state of their own is the epitome of irony.
> you shouldn't complain when i remind you your own history.
Same goes for you, pal
No problem with me though, unlike Turkey and the average Turk I neither deny it nor do I actually support parties in Greece that do anything remotely close to such things.Again,unlike Turkey and the average Turk.
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
Average greeks wants to "retake constantinople" which is ethnic cleansing of the 15 million turks living there. Another cope.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
>Average greeks wants to "retake constantinople" which is ethnic cleansing of the 15 million turks living there
No active party in the parliament supports this or has supported it for the last 100 years.Also whataboutism.
Unlike Turkey,that threatens Greece with war.Supported by its political parties too.
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
No party in turkey threatens greece with war either. Also if you complain about "how evil average turks are 😭" what do you expect?
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
>No party in turkey threatens greece with war either
Turkey has a casus belli against Greece while also disputing its authority over a part of its domain.Greece has none of those things against Turkey.
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
With part of is domain you mean cyprus? Wish you mentioned what lead turkey to invade there.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
I meant the Dodekanese and other islands in the Aegean...
But thank you for mentioning Cyprus,of which Turkey also denies its legality.
>Wish you mentioned what lead turkey to invade there.
And here comes the money shot.
Turkey condemns Israel for deliberatly causing strife and invading Palestine while doing the exact same shit in Cyprus.
THE IRONY
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
Did turkey bomb thousands of civillians in cyprus and cut the good supply to starve the greeks 🤣 Next will you blame turkey for nuking greece or something? Mentioning the islands as greek territory we invaded is beyond hypocrisy btw. Will you call İstanbul that too?
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
>Did turkey bomb thousands of civillians in cyprus and cut the good supply to starve the greeks
Nice try,they invaded the island,killed more than 1.500 Greek Cypriot civillians and displaced 150.000.Not to mantion the looting,rapes etc by the army.
>Mentioning the islands as greek territory we invaded is beyond hypocrisy btw. Will you call İstanbul that too?
First of all,fix your god-awful English.
I mentioned the Dodekanese as islands whose Greek authority you dispute,you bozo.I am talking about islands that are governed by the Greek state,not the Turkish state,you moron.
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
Calm down habibi, you literally have islands that are right next to the western coast of anatolia. İt's only under "greek authority" because Atatürk didn't have the ships to save them from your grandparents. When they tried to invade anatolia and make them under "greek authority" too but failed. Did your invation involve any rape or looting or killing of civillians? Or are these only done by evil Turks?
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
No, it is Turkey that has land next to these Islands xD
Save them from what, the Greeks who live in them? xD
Good,so you don't deny the fact that Turkey disputes territory of other states,just like Israel does with Palestine,Lebanon and Syria.
I'm intrigued that you see the Invasion of Cyprus by Turkey and the Invasion of Anatolia by Greece in the same light.Most of your countrymen don't even want to think about such a thing ;)
Glittering_Spot_2695@reddit
İ'm actually as objective as you pretend to be.
Looked a bit at your prophile and 90% of your comments are on " turks bad 😭"
you're debating me on why "Turks are evil 😭" under a post about israel
I can critic the pogroms in the fifties or the slavery in ottomans but you can't do the same about the ethnic cleansing your grannies did to Balkan Turks.
Must be hard being so obsessed about a country. Focus on the problems in your personal life, non of them are caused by Turks.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
If that is all you understood from my comments,then it ain't my problem.
Who told you that I don't critic the ethnic cleansing of Balkan Turks/ottoman Muslims? It's not that you came here in good faith anyways.
This is Reddit,I choose any topic I want to.Not my problem most of you rigamaroles deny basic historical facts or judge with double-standards.
So ,to conclude,the Turkish athlete in question is a hypocrite,as is his country's whole stance in the Israel-Palestine conflict. That's what Alexios mentioned before and I guess that's what most people here did too.
Next time a Greek athlete does such a thing,be my guest and judge all you want,you would be right in doing so anyways.
Fearless_Entry_2626@reddit
Israel is so bad that Turky can easily criticize them and not look hypocritical. Similar to how all of tge world eventually got behind Mandela and boycotted Apartheid South Africa. They were, and still are, really racist, but would you rather have them not take a stance?
kapsama@reddit
The whole Greek identity is one big glass house. I've never known any Greek to be quiet for more than 30 seconds.
boom257@reddit
You just bought this up out of nowhere, as if turks live rent-free in your head 24/7. Oh, how the eastern roman empire has fallen.
Anastasia_of_Crete@reddit
based
fibonacciii@reddit
The Greek government is just disappointed their east med pipeline with Israel is dead.
CecilPeynir@reddit
Uhh, do our neighbors know about these illegal wars?
Like, idk, Are we at war with Greece right now?
Fun_Boysenberry_1982@reddit
Love it! Well done. Ready for downvote part 2
sibaltas@reddit
Why you have to make this about turkey? Cause you are a buthurt greek
Interesting_Key9946@reddit
Lol a Turk being overconfident speaking for violating human rights. Perhaps look back what you did 50 years ago in the northern part of Cyprus.
Kuwaie@reddit
Go back to watching "you will come as a lightning" and cry Greek. And do a little bit more whataboutism in the comments in the process please. Cheers.
ConsciousWarthog5950@reddit
oh yes. Saint Palestine...
bossonhigs@reddit
Eh. You don't know. Be just a bit more vocal with that and they will find you in Plovdiv and arrange to get you fired from a job, ruin your business or expelled from your school.
AideSpartak@reddit
That’s a stretch but they will for sure try to find dirt on you and blackmail you if you are actually in a position of power
GratefulShorts@reddit
Wow! (((((They))))) sound super scary!!!
AideSpartak@reddit
Idk whether this is ironic or non-ironic antisemite dig whistle, but by “they” I do not mean some secret organisation where all the Jews are, but the Israeli state and their intelligence. And they definitely do try to get dirt on people
GratefulShorts@reddit
Of course! That’s what I mean too!
I would never say that a religious group of people have total control over media and government without any substance, that’s crazy. Israel though has control over so much and their secret organizations are all powerful. It’s insane how some people try to link people like you or me to antisemitism when we are just talking about the operations of Israelis.
AideSpartak@reddit
Nice straw man and a poor attempt of irony. Never have I said, nor implied that Israel has full control over anything. If anything Israel is the vassal of the USA and its MIC, not the opposite.
People disagreeing with a genocide and calling the Israeli state what it is, isn’t the same as hating on random Jewish people so stop trying to put words into my mouth. No idea why you are so interested in defending the brutal murder of tens of thousands of kids, but you do you
GratefulShorts@reddit
Why would I be ironic friend? I think you might be on too much hasbara propaganda.
The USA is a vassal of Israel with AIPAC as their means of control. You trying to say that Israel isn’t controlling things around the globe is what gives them power. You are actively contributing to the genocide.
I never accused you of hating Jews, we hate the Zionist regime that operates in the shadows and has seeped its way into governments and media.
TheFennecFx@reddit
Sure, have you ever been outside of your country?!
sn0wman175@reddit
Turkey should also be excluded
Turwel@reddit
because the USA is their biggest friend and has been backing Israel up since the beginning
two faces of the same shit
Rejanfic@reddit
Honest question? Because I have the answer.
Cool-Traffic-8357@reddit
Why was USA never banned from participating?
ruairi1983@reddit
The world:
Delicious-Ad-539@reddit
How it's in the same boat? Russia was aggressor, attacked and invaded another country. In Israel case, they were attacked and invaded, but they were bigger and stronger, retaliated back and now attacker is a victim? My thinking is simple, if you hit someone first, you deserve no compassion if victim hits back.
Hopeful-Zombie-7525@reddit
Yeah, defending your country against Terrorists is the same as invading your sovereign neighbour. Look at any poll of your choice from whatever source, and you see a majority of terrorism supporters among the Gaza population. There is a reason why none of their neighbours want to take them in as refugees, despite all being from the same muslim culture. If 9/11 had the same death count relative to the population of Israel that was killed in the October attack, there would have had to have been 50,000 dead Americans.
In the past decades, there have been plenty of wars in the Middle East that were on the same scale as the Israel-Palastine conflict, but nobody cared. The only thing that is different from scenarios like Yemen is that Israel is involved. And Israel seems to be the only country that is not allowed to win wars - at least that's what the UN seems to think.
Punished2022@reddit
Russia oppresses it's own people, threatens global security and funds other dictatorships. Even if Israel should be excluded, Russia deserves it more
Glass-North8050@reddit
Almost as if this conflict is not so one-sided and broad support of Israel across the democracies shows that?
No, cant be that, everyone who doesn't agree with your narrative is just wrong and dumb.
Arh1sekta@reddit
why? they finance like 70% of everything out there
danielpreb@reddit
You know there's a difference between starting a war and responding to an attack
Apprehensive-Ear5722@reddit
Because, the UK, France, USA etc are allowed to compete
Fair_Lie4051@reddit
Because its True and not a conspiracy theory to the Rule the Damn whole World
ResponsibleFly8142@reddit
People like Israel, because they are not terrorists and don’t keep hostages in tunnels.
TonaldDrump7@reddit
Maybe because Ukrainians didn't start the war by massacring over 1000 Russian civilians and taking hundreds hostage, prompting a Russian invasion to neutralize Ukraine and recover the hostages.
Damirirv@reddit
cuz they most likely pay to be allowed to stay, like with Eurovision
AideSpartak@reddit
I know it’s just getting harder and harder to act like we (the EU) have any right to behave like we defend morals. I’m fully in support of helping Ukraine but we should also do something about Israel or at least stop inviting them to stuff like Eurovision or UEFA tournaments
thepulloutmethod@reddit
If Israel and Australia belong in s Eurovision, then so do Argentina and Uruguay.
Damirirv@reddit
The EU only cares about morals if it's about Europeans, and even then they half ass their support (case in point Yugoslav wars). Besides them also being incredibly anti Islam/Arab, and that EU managment doesn't wanna risk being called antisemitic, they won't and will not really do anything. The UK and France might condemn Israel, but they sure as hell won't actually do anything since they gain nothing from it.
AideSpartak@reddit
I hope something will change as public opinion of Israel is at an all time low across Europe
Damirirv@reddit
What needs to change are the government opinions. While yes public support for going against Israel is also necesarry, what really needs to happen is for Israel to actually do something worth taking action over (like killing EU volunteers since they're already firing "warning shots" at them) or for a relevant EU leader to firmly stand against genocide.
AideSpartak@reddit
They have already killed EU volunteers, specifically a Bulgarian
Damirirv@reddit
Wait already? Now that's fucked up. Shame they haven't responded to it at all, not even saying it happened.
AideSpartak@reddit
https://www.bta.bg/en/news/bulgaria/878061-bulgarian-un-staffer-marinov-killed-accidentally-by-israeli-shell-israel-defens
Equivalent_Range6291@reddit
Yes theyve been firing at Irish UN Peacekeeping forces & the Israeli`s have killed Irish soldiers there in the past.
Ireland & Spain were the only two EU Countries that have condemned Israeli actions in Gaza from the start ..
madtrucker99@reddit
Where exactly is it at an all time low? Here in austria and germany you risk your career, education etc if you dare to say something
Jaskojaskojasko@reddit
I hope people will remember the old saying. The one you can't criticize is the one that rules over you. Now those people in Austria and Germany should think for a bit about that.
Giving support to another genocide and new Nazis, that are Israel will not erase the sins from their past, it will only create new ones, the ones their children and grandchildren will be ashamed of.
AideSpartak@reddit
I mean EU broadly, some nation would be outliers. From what I’ve seen from Germany they actually arrest you if you try to protest. Also like not speaking about because you can get in trouble doesn’t mean you support it
Damirirv@reddit
He probably meant online, but yes in public pretty sure they can also arrest you for it.
Equivalent_Range6291@reddit
The only EU Country that has consistently condemned the Israeli war on Gaza from the start is Ireland.
Cheydinhal-Sanctuary@reddit
Only about western Europeans lol. Slavic people, Balts, Finno-Ugric people weren’t even considered white until after WW2 or 9/11 🤣
kulamsharloot@reddit
You do know that Russia was kicked because some broadcasters pulled out which is something that doesn't happen in Israel right?
It's almost as if it's a completely different situation.
CroGamer002@reddit
They don't merely pay for it, Israeli company Moroccanoil is the primary Eurovision sponsor!
kulamsharloot@reddit
I never really understood if people are actually asking this question because they want real answers or they just want their fake outrage published for bit of karma and brownie points.
The main reason Russia was banned from many international competitions is because it invaded a sovereign country (Ukraine) and triggered a full-scale war in Europe, violating international law on a massive scale.
Israel, in contrast, is engaged in a decades-long conflict with a designated terrorist group (Hamas) that initiated the latest war with a mass civilian attack on October 7, 2023. Whether or not you agree with Israel’s response, it’s not the same as invading another country for conquest.
Also, Israel hasn’t been sanctioned by the UN or major sports bodies in the same way Russia was — so international legal and sporting standards clearly don’t see them as equivalent.
Such_Reality_6732@reddit
Wasn't cheating that got Russia kicked out of the Olympics officially unfortunately their is no provision against genocide in Olympic rules several countries would be kicked otherwise
AideSpartak@reddit
Out of the Olympics sure. Out of UEFA and Eurovision it was the war. Also I’m very much against Russia so I don’t want to defend them, I just find hypocritical that Israel is still allowed to
Such_Reality_6732@reddit
I had no intention to defend neither country
AdDry8333@reddit
Russia is literally trying to occupy another county, Israel is defending it self in a war. This was not unprovoked like it was between Ukraine and Russia—Bad comparison by you
AideSpartak@reddit
Israel is literally occupying another country as well and is conducting genocide
real_dado500@reddit
That is some weak genocide. I'd do better job.
AdDry8333@reddit
So? It wasn’t unprovoked
AideSpartak@reddit
Lmao what are you even saying?! The genocide wasn’t unprovoked?
SuperMarioMiner@reddit
isn't it obvious...?
but you can't talk sense into cultists.
ManVSReddit@reddit
Did Ukraine attack Russia first?
What a stupid analogy
dungfeeder@reddit
In that case, they should ban turkey, China, Australia, Iran, USA, UA and i bet a few more could fit the list.
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
Agree with USA but not with the rest.
vladi_l@reddit
China literally has concentration camps where they keep a huge chunk of their muslim minorities for "re-education"
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
It's hard to boycott and exclude a big country with over 1 billion people like China. Israel is a tony "country" so we could easily exclude them.
SommY24@reddit
This comment is so dumb on many levels
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
I don't need lectures about morals from someone who is active world news (pro-Israel and genocidal sub) and watches destiny (a predator and pro-Israel's genocide streamer)
SommY24@reddit
Brother if that makes you happy xdd
dungfeeder@reddit
Ofc you don't.
birdperson2006@reddit
What did Australia do?
dungfeeder@reddit
Sent soldiers to war that have nothing to do with them, in which they commited war crimes.
AideSpartak@reddit
I wouldn’t have a problem with some of them getting banned as well. If you are going to take the moral high ground then you need to be consistent. Otherwise it just seems like you are using this for strictly geopolitical reasons and to bolster western hegemony
Borisb3ck3r@reddit
Cuz murica
According-Pass8230@reddit
i wonder if people in 1944 were like : The allies are so bad, german kids are dying.. we should ban USA, UK and CCCP from participating in cultural and sporting events"
Manaversel@reddit
USA, UK and CCCP are literally Hamas in this analogy let alone Palestine and Israel is the Nazi Germany
AideSpartak@reddit
That’s a very poor analogy as Israel would be the Germany in this scenario
According-Pass8230@reddit
no .. the analogy is spot on. The jew hating terror regime that went to war gets put down by force. The only difference is that nazi-germany actually capitulated after their leader died. Hamas dont give a shit about its own population so they will drag it on at an extremely high price for the civilians inside the Gaza Strip.
Hamas could end this war this second if they wanted. Keeping Hamas in power will never be an alternative and the entire world knows it.
AideSpartak@reddit
Yes buddy, specifically targeting kids (there is enough evidence of Palestinians kids getting shot straight to the head, obviously intentionally), bragging about the war crimes you commit, bragging about how you will exterminate them etc. definitely gives the impression of “the victim”. The war didn’t start 2 years ago, don’t play dumb and don’t act like Gaza wasn’t made into a pretty much open air prison long before the genocide conducted by the israeli state began. What the israeli state is doing right now is genocide
Get out of here with that vile propaganda trying to normalise a deeply xenophobic and genocidal regime as that of israel. Less and less people are falling for it
According-Pass8230@reddit
Whern did the war start ? In 1948 when most of the arab world attacked Israel ?
I condem all war crimes commited by both parties and If it were up to me they would all be trialed in court but that wont happen.
But Israels goverments ideology is not to kill all palestinians, if it were they would all be dead.
If Hamas had the military might of the IDF all jews in Israel would be dead a long time ago.
AideSpartak@reddit
You mean when Jewish settlers from Europe were brought to an already populated area and then gradually started occupying more and more of their land? If Europe felt so about the Jews to the point where it created a new country just for them, maybe it should have German land as it was Germany that did the holocaust, not random people who were already colonised and had nothing to with the whole thing
Their ideology is literally to kill all Palestinians and they boast about doing it. They treat them as subhuman, discriminate them, steal their land, kick them out of their houses and kill them.
rrrzrrr@reddit
And if Nazi Germany had Palestinian PR capabilities they’d still be around
yayayamur@reddit
US must be spending so much money to pay foreign politicans to side with them
StPauliPirate@reddit
Normally Turks who get this much invested with Palestine are Erdogan loving Islamists. So my sympathy is limited.
Normal-Avocado99@reddit
I'm not an islamist and I stand with Palestine. I just hate idiots who make it sound like killing babies kids and innocent people is normal.
StPauliPirate@reddit
Ok. Then where is your support for sudanese people? Uyghurs? Jemenite people? Instead just getting invested in Israel-Palestine. Seems sus. As I said, normally mostly Islamists get this much invested in this because of Jerusalem as a major muslim hub of historical relevance, they just don‘t the jews have it
SnooBunnies9198@reddit
omg how do u excatly expect albanians to protest about sudan?? majority of us dk it exists. With palestine is differenr because one, we share a sea and a religion and two, israel is brodcasting its genocide for the world to see. Not defending china or anything but a simple reason why most people dont know about the uyghurs is because they keep quiet and 2 the worlds largesr expirter and second largest economy, theres not much normal people can do rather than just spread awareness.
Bannedfromred93@reddit
Whataboutism is a childish cop-out
gkn_112@reddit
WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT THAT, you sound ridiculous. Who says they dont support the other stuff? You assume too much.
StPauliPirate@reddit
Because I don‘t see them doing it (protesting, demonstrations, boycott calls, internet activism) with other cases! Don‘t be naive
gkn_112@reddit
Thats your basis? You dont see it? Sounds very anecdotal. Dont be generalizing. You are the personification of whataboutism. I didnt see you tell people supporting uygurs "where is your support for *insert some other conflict*" so imma assume you only do this in pro palestine posts.
StPauliPirate@reddit
Because there aren‘t any support uyghurs posts😂 go watch your propaganda videos
gkn_112@reddit
still generalizing and talking out of your ass. I personally was in several uygur discussions. I am calling out what needs the most calling out right now. Active bombing first, forced assimilation after.
A house is in flames, people yell "fire!" and you: "did you also say something about the fire a year ago?!"
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
You could be pro-Palestine and still be anti-Islam and anti-Arab
The1Floyd@reddit
If you're anti-Arab you only support Palestine for your own devious ends.
Iran is anti-Arab and they arm Hamas for one reason and one reason only, to be a geopolitical thorn in their enemies sides.
They couldn't give a flying fuck how many Palestinians are slaughtered because of all this.
gkn_112@reddit
I speak up for palestine because they get oppressed and genocided, not because they are arabs if that makes sense to you. 80 years ago I would have spoken against the nazis killing and genociding jews as well. Arab countries dont seem to care about palestine though. At least I dont see them act or unite over this.
Potential-Analysis-4@reddit
For good reason. Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon have all been burned in the past.
Justkyslol@reddit
guys can you just assuming stuff? yall dont know even know if he has any bad intentions, just because he is a turk?
The1Floyd@reddit
I wasn't commenting on him, I have no idea if he is "anti-arab"
But to claim that someone can be anti an ethnicity, like specifically against an ethnicity but still be "pro this specific group within that ethnicity" is simply ludicrous.
Imagine saying someone is an anti-Semite but is pro Jews in Hollywood. It makes zero sense.
gkn_112@reddit
Person doesnt like arabs (thats racist, agreed) but that doesnt mean they cant be against fuckin genocide.
The1Floyd@reddit
If you are genuinely a racist towards Arabs I find it extremely difficult to believe that you would draw the line at seeing them being bombarded on the news.
You're coming at this as a rational human being, in my opinion, racists are not rational human beings.
gkn_112@reddit
Or and hear me out: Some turks can commend actions of people with a different political alignment if the act in itself is good and has nothing to do with islamism but rather with being a human and speaking up against oppression and genocide... I also speak up against erdogan while saluting this move.
Cane607@reddit
Turks are always overcompensating for something, They to swing from one ideological extreme to another.
These-Maintenance250@reddit
his name is Necmettin erbakan. that tells you everything you want to know about him
StPauliPirate@reddit
Lmao
VaginalBelchh@reddit
Ask this dude about Kurds and Armenians lol
Fabulous-Yellow8331@reddit
It's difficult to take seriously the gesture of a Turk showing solidarity with Palestine, especially when many of them continue to live and move freely in our parents' homes in the northern, illegally occupied part of Cyprus.
How can Turkey credibly accuse another country of occupation or genocide when it actively occupies one-third of an EU country (Cyprus) and has a history marked by atrocities against Greeks, Armenians, Greek Cypriots, and others?
And before the usual wave of Turkish bots chimes in, we're well aware of Turkey’s official narrative regarding Cyprus (and other topics). But let’s be clear: only Turkey sees it that way. The rest of the world recognises the occupation of northern Cyprus as illegal. So please spare us the state-fed propaganda that holds no weight beyond Turkey's borders.
The core question remains: can a state, or its citizens, genuinely protest against occupation and genocide when their own country has committed similar acts and, in some cases, continues to do so? From Cyprus to Syria, from threatening Greece’s borders to supporting Azerbaijan in actions against Armenians, to the systematic oppression of Kurds, Turkey’s record speaks for itself.
And yet, here they are, claiming the moral high ground in the Israel–Palestine conflict. The irony is hard to ignore.
National_Pay_5847@reddit
Does he know that Palestine started the war?
Bannedfromred93@reddit
Interesting...I mean it's entirely false, but still interesting..
"19 year old Palestinian killed during settler assault on West Bank town" - Reuters, 6 Oct 2023 (1 day before Oct 7)
"Gaza Strip protesters received bullet wounds to ankles, medics report" - The Guardian, 4 Oct 2023 (3 days before Oct 7)
IDFs Official Telegram Channel announced that they bombed Gaza on Sept 2023 (1 Month before Oct 7)
"2023 marks the deadliest year on record for Children in the West Bank" - Report by Save The Children International, 18 Sept 2023 (1 Month before Oct 7)
"Just a week after journalist Shireen Abu Akleh’s killing, another female journalist, 31-yr old Ghufran Warasneh was shot and killed by the IDF near Arroub refugee camp in the West Bank. " - International Federation of Journalists, Report on 26 Sept 2023 (1 Month before Oct 7)
"Using an attack dog, Israeli soldiers forced Palestinian women to undress" - Haaretz, 5 Sept 2023 (1 Month before Oct 7)
Israeli forces opened fire on Palestinian protesters in Gaza, killing a 25-year-old Yousef and wounding another 8, including 3children. Israeli forces shot Yousef in the head from behind, while another shot in the back pierced his chest. - Relief Web International, 21 Sept 2023 (1 Month before Oct 7)
A two-year-old Palestinian boy has died four days after being shot in the head by Israeli forces. - BBC, 5 June 2023 (4 Months before Oct 7)
National_Pay_5847@reddit
And this proves what?
Bannedfromred93@reddit
You say Palestine started the war, implying 7th Oct 2023. I proved you wrong by citing events that occurred days/months before 7th Oct 2023. Hope that helps.
National_Pay_5847@reddit
These events don’t mark the start of the war.
Bannedfromred93@reddit
It definitely does, Oct 7th was a retaliation to these above events. Israel started it.
National_Pay_5847@reddit
I checked again thinking maybe I was wrong but no, I see Hamas had invaded Israel.
Bannedfromred93@reddit
Yes, Hamas invasion of Israel's illegal settlements were a retaliation to the events that occurred before Oct 7th, already cited those events in my original comment
National_Pay_5847@reddit
That’s convenient excuse, isn’t it?
YahyaAliKhan@reddit
retard
thefish12124@reddit
Shhh don't say such things on Reddit.
Normal-Avocado99@reddit
Those with 2 cents of knowledge know that Israel has been shooting kids in Palestine since years before.
pantrokator-bezsens@reddit
That would require having some knowledge about history.
C00LHEAD_MANP00P@reddit
CompleteBandicoot723@reddit
Muslim Brotherhood impersonated
Fast_Bathroom9600@reddit
Will he show same passion for the Kurds his country is killing? For the Cypriots whose land they are occupying?
Agitated_Holiday_369@reddit
There's a better thing to do: you can sell it and donate the money to Palestinian aid associations.
TheFennecFx@reddit
Or to Hamas? Oh, never mind, it is the same.
Agitated_Holiday_369@reddit
You're obsessed with Hamas, it's crazy. I'm talking about UNICEF, UNRWA and the World Food Program. I think they are internationally recognized agencies.
TheFennecFx@reddit
UNRWA is same as Hamas, for example.
Agitated_Holiday_369@reddit
Are you in Israel's bot ? Do you support the Hollocoust of Palestine? Do you support the murder of children, women and men in Palestine?
Justkyslol@reddit
israeli propaganda has you by the balls
kulamsharloot@reddit
Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (USA) Once the largest Islamic charity in the U.S., it was shut down in 2001 after being designated a terrorist organization. It was found to have funneled over $12 million to Hamas-affiliated entities, leading to convictions of several of its leaders for providing material support to terrorism.
Al-Aqsa Foundation An international charity with branches in Europe and the Middle East, designated by the U.S., EU, and other countries as a financier of Hamas. Authorities allege it used humanitarian relief efforts as a cover to support Hamas activities.
KindHearts for Charitable Humanitarian Development (USA) Based in the U.S., KindHearts had its assets frozen in 2006 due to allegations of fundraising for Hamas. The organization was accused of channeling funds to Hamas-affiliated groups in the West Bank and Lebanon.
Union of Good An umbrella organization comprising over 50 Islamic charities, designated by the U.S. Treasury as supporting terrorism. It is alleged to have coordinated fundraising efforts that benefited Hamas.
Comité de Bienfaisance et de Secours aux Palestiniens (CBSP) A French-based charity designated by the U.S. Treasury for its links to Hamas. It operates under various aliases and has been involved in fundraising activities supporting the group.
Interpal (UK) A British charity designated by the U.S. Treasury in 2003 for allegedly providing funds to Hamas. It has been investigated multiple times by the UK Charity Commission, though no conclusive evidence has led to sanctions within the UK.
Human Appeal International A UK-based charity that has been scrutinized for alleged ties to Hamas. It was included in a 1996 CIA report on charitable organizations that finance terror and has faced various investigations over the years.
Council for European Palestinian Relations (CEPR) An organization banned by Israel in 2013 for allegedly serving as Hamas’s representative in Europe. It has been involved in advocacy and fundraising activities related to Palestinian causes.
UNRWA USA A U.S.-based nonprofit supporting the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA). It has faced lawsuits alleging that its donations indirectly supported Hamas activities, especially following revelations that some UNRWA employees had ties to Hamas.
hellenojudeoturkism@reddit
I agree with you but I have to point that this list is meaningless. Basically everyone of these was either found or claimed to have provided money to terrorists by....the US government, who anyone pro Palestine will most likely not see as a reliable source. They will simply say "that was the Israel lobby doing it's work successfully, those groups weren't really funding terrorists, Israel is just desperate to deprive the Palestinians of all funds and resources."
TheFennecFx@reddit
And not only Israel lobby, illuminati as well, they are controlling the world. And the problem with pro Palestine is that they see anyone but Hamas as not reliable.
hellenojudeoturkism@reddit
Can y'all insanely partisan mfs stop acting like I share your views? I'm pro Israel because I believe those who are attacked have the right to respond as they see fit, doesn't mean I believe Israel has sufficiently proven it's claims or that I think poorly of Palestinian advocates; maybe they are anti semitic (no bueno) but maybe they just value human life, which is laudable, pious, and just. In this particular instance I truly believe both sides in this fight are righteous in their own way, and both sides are equally correct based on their perspective on the situation.
TheFennecFx@reddit
I don’t care what you share, you are just spreading lies. If you don’t want reply, there is a block option in Reddit
hellenojudeoturkism@reddit
What lies exactly?
kulamsharloot@reddit
Yeah tbh pointing facts to pro Palestinians is futile, it means nothing to them.
I hope we'll keep on doing what we do regardless of the trendy European outrage.
hellenojudeoturkism@reddit
That's not what I said.
TheFennecFx@reddit
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qg5z4lkj0o that have happened if I remember correctly because this time the aid was free and not stolen and resell by Hamas ;)
thefish12124@reddit
Lol.
I have 2 Palestinian colleagues. Both of them they wish hamas to destroy Israel. And they are very happy and proud for the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel (1.2k citizens died.).
So I don't think its propaganda at all.
zoranss7512@reddit
Could've sold it and donated it to help?
Electrical-Course-26@reddit
Stupid action, worthless statement, pointless action
cueca2000@reddit
sn0wman175@reddit
Bro doesn’t know that turkey is trying its best to colonize the Middle East lmao
Dazzling_Art_6977@reddit
Maybe he should have brought a second flag to support the Kurds
Oh wait…..
Repulsive_Dog1067@reddit
Does he see the irony in being Turkish and being upset about genocide?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roboski_massacre
Playful-Estimate-453@reddit
Uhm…. okay 😂
Plastic_Shop6274@reddit
Turkey of all countries should stay quiet for matters like this.
Life_Community3043@reddit
Turkey hasn't done anything even remotely comparable to Israel in the last 80 or so years.
Ghostofcoolidge@reddit
Nice arbitrary cut off there. Have they admitted to ask those things they've done in the past?
Life_Community3043@reddit
Lmao wut? We're talking about things the nation is actively doing right now, there's no arbitrary cut off are you dense?
WigglySchlong@reddit
Is there anything that happened maybe a little more than 80 years ago that Turkey did?
ZaEmirhando@reddit
This is not the president that is throwing the medal??
smallsponges@reddit
But it is a Turk ignoring scandals at home for scandals abroad.
VagHunter69@reddit
By this logic nobody ever could criticize anything anywhere you lobotomized baboon
FallopianInvestor@reddit
It's literally a dude, not the country, wtf kind of low IQ logic is that
marmotsarefat@reddit
Turkeys last genocide was a century ago israels last genocide was 2 mins ago
Cautious_Maximum420@reddit
While competing for arguably the biggest occupier in the region.
PhonyEye@reddit
K
Soul741@reddit
This man is not an "ordinary" athlete. Together with his family, they have taken over the federation of the sport called wushu in Türkiye. They are doing this through politics. This man's sister is participating in a wushu tournament, she is both a referee and a participant in the tournament. Her mother is also a referee in the same tournament. And guess who wins the tournament? You guessed it, the woman herself :) They are quite objective. This man also has racist statements. They are completely chauvinists and liars. The video was also shot for propaganda purposes. News about them:
https://haber.sol.org.tr/haber/wushu-beyliginin-7-yillik-hikayesi-rusvetle-gelen-sampiyonluk-boyle-tescil-edilmisti-8023
gkn_112@reddit
sooo, what he does here is wong then? Or no? Because I didnt care about his past, I only cared for what he did in this vid.
Soul741@reddit
Just imagene it, trt world meets the guy and they are recording this video clip and sharing with this title. Is this normal? This is just a propaganda video for their purposes. And also, you can't think this video without thinking his past.
gkn_112@reddit
I can though. Even a broken watch shows the correct time twice a day, this is the correct time. Activism, propaganda, whatever you wanna call it, I respect the move.
Adventurous-Body9134@reddit
Hitler was a big defender of animal rights. So my question is, did Hitler do good?
gkn_112@reddit
If true, in terms of animal rights yes, in terms of hollowing out the democracy to enable his his fascist rule, deporting and killing millions of jews and other unwanted, starting wars left and right and lying to his people, no.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
interesting,thanks for the link
Fatalaros@reddit
So... He tries to act morally while competing in Egypt that just ruled to infringe upon the rights of the orthodox monks of st. Catherine monastery. Not a good image either way.
gkn_112@reddit
Did they bomb their children in the tens of thousands as well and try to genocide them to grab their lands? Then he absolutely shouldnt have done this!
Fatalaros@reddit
You can look for yourself what Christians face in Egypt through all time. You obviously pay for internet.
gkn_112@reddit
Through all time, this is now and they are dying right this second. Does that make X right? No, not at all. But I can condone X and Y at the same time. You?
Fatalaros@reddit
What makes you think that your second right now is more important than the second of the people 5 years ago? I also condone both, I merely spoke of hypocrisy because his country is literally(this second) occupying another country and Egypt is still a hell for Christians.
gkn_112@reddit
One is acute. Whats so hard to get? You are weighing two bad things against each other, thats my point.
Fatalaros@reddit
And I used him as an example of a broken scale.
electronigrape@reddit
Nationalising a monastery isn't comparable to genocide. Also nobody sanctioned him for protesting against its nationalisation.
Fatalaros@reddit
You don't understand that such actions are marginalising the already dwindling (from many years of suppression) Christian communities in the region? There have been church bombings, mob violence and police shootings.
Lakuriqidites@reddit
Egypt has way worse record when it comes to the minority of rights, as stupid as it is from Egypt’s side closing that Monastery is not their worst doing.
Additionally and more importantly since you are going down that route, where are the minarets and mosques in Athens?
Note: I don’t care about religion but you are no better than Egypt
Fatalaros@reddit
The Turks put a minaret on the Parthenon, as if we're supposed to keep that there. The same with the rest of the "mosques", that were previously converted churches. We just turned them back. The number of actual mosques could be counted in one hand.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
>where are the minarets and mosques in Athens?
There are in the same place with the Orthodox churches of your capital
You are definetly no better than Egypt or Israel ;)
Lakuriqidites@reddit
Like this one Stavros?
10-15% of Albanians are Orthodox.
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
My bad Shpetim, I didn't clearly see your pfp.
It's usually Turks that use that phrase.
Yeah,I know
Lakuriqidites@reddit
No worries Stavros. Have a nice Sunday ahead
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
<3 <3
diantrst@reddit
The turks even turned parthenon into a mosque the greek revolution was partially a religious war
diantrst@reddit
We turned one into a museum and the others were left unattended because we are not muslims nowadays we do have one in the center of athens
ArtichokeFar6601@reddit
Have you forgotten what the Turks have and are doing in Cyprus? He should be protesting that.
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
Maybe Egypt should deny electricity, water and bomb orthodox monks. This is how moral europeans morals works i guess lol. Honestly stfu.
Interesting_Key9946@reddit
This needs more downvotes
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
Maybe you should do moral hospital bombings and moral journalist killing along with downvoted. "eUrOpEaN mOrAlS" lol fucking savages.
SirDi0nys0s@reddit
Care to show us some of that 'European civilization'? :D
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ssGrLty6GE
PeterLake2@reddit
He thinks its ok because they are not muslim.
Sea-Major6749@reddit
Okay I got sick of that shit, stop spreading misinformation, Here is one in your own language and also a Greece-based news outlet.
Ok-Resource767@reddit
Respect
Electronic_Ad8677@reddit
Zionists aren't humans at this point.
Vast_Temperature_319@reddit
Better than Islamist.
UnusualFee8053@reddit
Whats better dog shit or cat shit?
kulamsharloot@reddit
An Islamist seeks to govern society by Islamic law(gender inequality, no rights for LGBT, persecution of minorities etc) while a Zionist supports the right of Jews to self-determination in their ancestral homeland, Israel.
Anything else you've learned in TikTok about Zionism is factually untrue.
UnusualFee8053@reddit
Smae zionism that supported financially two world wars? Napolen war? Those good guy zios?
Im not kid like you. I remember your nazi zionism for a long time
kulamsharloot@reddit
I wish you well
UnusualFee8053@reddit
I also wish well for you and your family.
I just want you to know that this is not the right way.
kulamsharloot@reddit
The right way isn't supporting antisemitic tropes, claiming the Jews are financing world wars...
UnusualFee8053@reddit
It's a well-known fact. Don't use mental gymnastics and antisemitism victim card.
Jewish owned banks supported war machines
kulamsharloot@reddit
Banks of all kinds have funded wars - singling out 'Jewish-owned' ones isn't historical analysis, it's scapegoating rooted in old antisemitic tropes.
So yeah, I'm gonna pull that card, because you are an anti-Semite, which tbh I don't give a fuck, but at least do a bit of a research before verbally vomiting.
Vast_Temperature_319@reddit
What sort of koolaid is one drinking.
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
Just say “Jews” it is what you really meant. There is a reason the Jews know they need to just ignore Europe, you guys killed 6 million of them. They were smart to build nukes in the 1960, it means the reality is nothing will ever truly be done to them.
Sanctions also don’t work in the 21st century, all the bad behaving countries learned to bypass sanctions.
Melodic-Job-9076@reddit
Where are the 6 million graves? Where is the proof? How come they built a furnace in auschwitz AFTER the war and the same goes about the gaschambers? The mossad motto is war thru deception.
funkfrito@reddit
nice try adjective noun numbers
Apprehensive-Ear5722@reddit
Not everyone sad enough to specifically choose a Reddit handle
funkfrito@reddit
but sad enough to whine about israel? lmfao
MissWrongdoer@reddit
equating innocent jews with the pos that are israelites lmaoo
Remote_Wedding4142@reddit
This
Electronic_Ad8677@reddit
Nah, I'm not like you. I don't hate.
I don't hate jewish people, in fact I like and respect their culture, their religion, their music and their food, like I respect every different culture from mine. That's why I'm on AskBalkans despite being italian. I travel the world when I can and I find something beautiful everywhere.
What I don't fucking respect and - honestly at this point don't know about you - actively hate is child killers and child rapers, especially those who laugh and get a boner watching the flesh of little children disintegrated by bombs or starved to death.
Don't cover yourself on the antisemitism tirade, only pigs and child rapers defend Israel governament.
Do you think God loves what Netanazi is doing? Well, then hail Satan!
-sandwich@reddit
freepalestine
Previous_Tonight6513@reddit
Is that a true problem in Albania or what?
C00LHEAD_MANP00P@reddit
Free Palestine
CuteElderberry5125@reddit
Tell m about the Armenian genocide, say it If you date in Turkiye…. Exactly coward
Emotional-Tie-7628@reddit
Who cares about terrorists sympathizer. I'm hoping he will get banned for supporting terrorism.
Illustrious-Cod-5121@reddit
How man p does he house.
Arh1sekta@reddit
based af
marmotsarefat@reddit
This comment section seems to be filled with israelis or just balkaners who love sucking israeli cock
Affectionate_Self823@reddit
Thats just reality kid. Not your average reddit echo chamber
marmotsarefat@reddit
So reality is people supporting hosptial bombings and kid murdering
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
so why did he compete in the first place?
this is major disrespect to the competition itself, his title should be revoked. what a loser.
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
Are you actually this stupid? Atheletes in other countries doesn't really compete for sucking zionist dick unlike europeans.
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
compete to compete, not to show the world your shitty political opinion.
competitions have rules, not having political display is one of them. i dont care how much you think you are right, you arent above the rules of the competition that YOU chose to compete in
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
He did and he won a medal
Athletes aren't supposed to compete in israel dick sucking contest, The competetion they chose to compete doesn't really say they should suck israel's dick either. You know eurocucks are a bit shy about it and really can't say it explicitly.
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
he didnt compete to compete, he did a political display, i dont understand why its so difficult to understand what he did and that its against the rules.
what the fuck are you on about with israel dick sucking contest? every political display is forbidden, its a sport competition, not your playground to show your opinion that no one asked
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
This is such a pathethic lie and even you know it.
Political statements in sports are fine if they are pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia etc. but suddenly they should be forbidden if the political statement targets "european colony in the middle east".
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20210610-uefa-demands-ukraine-remove-political-slogan-from-euro-2020-jersey - political statement on ukraine jerseys were banned
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68505050 - israel was forced to change the lyrics of the song because it was too political
it happens much less because Gaza is the losing side, so obviously people feel more motivated to support them.
but rules are rules, and who ever breaks them should be punished, regardless of who side you are on
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
https://www.olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-continues-to-provide-widespread-support-for-ukrainian-athletes
They barred Russians from participating and supported Ukraine while they are letting Israel participate in competetions despite Israel's blatant warcrimes like bombing hospitals, sniping journalists with huge press marking on her chest. Those cheap signallings are meant nothing if they can't bar Israel.
Fuck off with your propaganda. These cheap propagandas are believeable if someone is incredibly stupid or too biased.
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
that is an entirely different thing, not related to the "no politics" rule.
you are mixing things up.
i gave you examples of the rule being enforced against ukraine and israel, to show you that its not a "pathetic lie", and now you just changed your argument to something completely different of barring states from competitions all together.
asdsadnmm1234@reddit
Banning russia and letting israel itself is entirely political thing. If they don't want politics in sports then they themselves should stop making political decisions.
Atvaaa@reddit
That was the goal. This is called a protest, ever heard of it?
One to say that. Let's see your medal
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
he knew the rules. political displays are forbidden, he chose to do it anyway and he is proud to end his career for it. you can like him all you want, he is still a dumbass.
by all means support whoever you want, but you have to respect the rules of the competition itself.
lets say you invite me over to dinner at your house, and you tell me specifically not to talk politics, and i still do it and when you are mad at me for it i take my plate full of food and slam it on the ground. its disrespect.
and besides you dont have to have a medal to not be a loser, your should practice your insults.
kankuribantasu@reddit
This isn't your average talk about politics.. It's something disgusting happening in modern age by a modern terrorist state wich is being sponsered by mainstream media and politicians..
Routine_Visit9722@reddit
oh so we should forget about the rules of the competition because this time its SOOOO IMPORTANT!
grow up, competitions have rules, and if you dont agree with the rules, dont compete.
kankuribantasu@reddit
Expected comment from a zionist.
UnusualFee8053@reddit
Israel is disrespectful towards everyone.
Schizojerker@reddit
Like someone else said, did he also throw away the money he received?
samsop01@reddit
Did the Egyptian authorities arrest him instead?
ConsistentEnviroment@reddit
There are reports about how this guy's whole family is corrupt (sister is referee, father is the federation president of the sport he has achievements in etc.) His name also is a huge red flag so I think this is just for show
gkn_112@reddit
So this is symbolic? I agree but noone claimed otherwise. Also he won several world championships and medals in several countries.
idiotegumen@reddit
Yeah just saw his name. Walking red flag
RationalPoster1@reddit
Another Turkish nazi exposed.
Lora_Grim@reddit
Lmao. A single look through your comments history proves that you are the nazi here, you disingenuous cretin. Zionist filth.
WeeZoo87@reddit
Egypta wars against israel 4
Turkey wars against israel 0
Total-Remote1006@reddit
He should just focus on sports not politics. I want to watch a sport event not politics. He can go and become an activist if he wants, but sporting events should be about sport only.
arabbotdutch@reddit
Will he do the same for the Armenian and Assyrian genocide?
idiotegumen@reddit
He could've protested this in another way if he wanted to. You didn't just win this for Palestine, you also won this for your own country. What a shitty gesture.
Discipline_Cautious1@reddit
Now Nile has more olympic medals than Bosnia
Mean_Mortgage5050@reddit
JAOO GOTOVI SMO
Topnotnut@reddit
What are we waiting for? Organize a fucking search and rescue before it reaches the Mediterranean. This is probably our only chance to get a medal
Alexios_Makaris@reddit
Not smart, you can get good money for those medals. Should have sold the real one, thrown a fake one for his video.
kankuribantasu@reddit
Found you a weirdo who's obsessed with turks but this comment is the cherry on top. Says alot about your personality.
eddy-mc-sweaty@reddit
Bro is even CALLED Necmettin Erbakan unironically,
Now this is some peak cringe right here
Jaded-Tear-3587@reddit
LoL. Turkish guy. Ask him what the Turks did to the Armenians, Greeks, Kurds...
Life_Community3043@reddit
What kinda dumb reaction is that? No one would be allowed into the contest if the historic atrocities are accounted for, whats happening right now matters
YpogaTouArGrease@reddit
>if the historic atrocities are accounted for
It's called genocide, pal.Turkey not only doesnt recognise it as such but also has been threatening its neighboors constantly for the last 100 years of its existence as a modern state.
And yes, it is kind of ironic seeing a Turk athlete, whose country forbids Kurds from even thinking about a state of their own ever since the 1920s, getting angry about Israel doing the same with Palestinians.
>whats happening right now matters
Many things are going on, among others Turkey threatens the state I live in with invasion,while still discriminating against the Greek minority in its lands,the one that ethnicaly cleansed in a matter of 70 years.Just like Israel did and still does.
ScallionClear7769@reddit
He shouldn’t have. The ancestors of this Turkish athlete have been betrayed by the Arabic tribes who believed in the twaddles of the queer English spy Lawrence of Arabia and stabbed the Ottoman army in the back during the First World War. You reap what you saw.
ernestbonanza@reddit
no. not his ancestors. his ancestors were the ones who ran away from the battlefield during WW1 when Turkish people were fighting against imperialism.
Circles-of-the-World@reddit
Historical transgressions does not make it ok to take it out on people today, who weren't even alive when the transgressions were committed. If an Armenian today took an assault rifle and murdered 200 turkish civilians it wouldn't be ok because of the Armenian genocide.
albo_kapedani@reddit
Next time, ban this idiot.
nospsce@reddit
He earned the thing and got punished for expressing free speech. What's the problem, exactly?
albo_kapedani@reddit
Political manifestations are not allowed sporting events. Second, he did not get panished. He was not sanctioned as the turkish and arab media say, but an investigation was opened to decide if there were any rules broken. And third, this was done in the aftermath of the terrorist attack on Isreal. This is just "victim" playing.
ernestbonanza@reddit
political statements are not allowed but gambling and cheating everywhere lmao average IQ of a sports fan
asir100@reddit
Stfu
albo_kapedani@reddit
Most sincerely, f*ck off.
asir100@reddit
An Albanian bending it over for others, as usual
albo_kapedani@reddit
Big talk from a turk.
asir100@reddit
Haha, self loathing bum. Obsessed with others, go touch grass.
albo_kapedani@reddit
Pathetic. Now, go play the "victim".
UnusualFee8053@reddit
Tard, give back Kosovo. Cancer
albo_kapedani@reddit
Pathetic.
irina-shayk@reddit
Ass licker
albo_kapedani@reddit
You are one to talk.
nospsce@reddit
Man, you're a bit too animated about this, don't you think?
albo_kapedani@reddit
I explained what had happened. You people don't like it and want to play the "victim" card, for some reason.
notnotnotnotgolifa@reddit
Was it done during a genocide
Infamous_Act9872@reddit
Puhahaha. Necmettin Erbakan...
He’s named after the Turkish politician who was a strict defender of Islamic sharia. So, it’s not hard to guess what kind of parents this poor guy has and what kind of an environment he grew up.
(Fuck Israel, fuck Hamas BTW.)
Both-Cry1382@reddit
Respect!
ernestbonanza@reddit
the guy's name is a big fail.
he is named after an islamist politician in turkey "Necmettin Erbakan" who was a pre-erdoğan fundamentalist islamist. his political party paved the road for today's islamist regime in turkey.
if a someone from turkey has an islamist background usually their activism about Palestine is not honest. because they don't really act in a way they believe it's what's right and humane. they only support Palestine because of the unity of the Islam.
so, literally fzck his poser azz!
plebbitchungus@reddit
I sense an insane amount of butthurt whataboutism in the replies.
Hikashuri@reddit
What an anti climatic way to deliver your point. Should have send an entire delegate and himself to IOC headquarters, and handed it back in person, with tv coverage. Now it's just ok, it's in the water, and?
Firm_Ad_5189@reddit
How tf is this even related to the Balkans?
F2ssd@reddit
This sub fr be finding random shi to hate on
Much_Log6444@reddit
Wow......so brave
Fine-Measurement-893@reddit
supporter of the party that trades billions with israel and unleashes its fascist militia to beat down those who protest it
performative act
46_and_2@reddit
Yeah, I get the gesture, but what an absolutely over-dramatized and performed-for-camera way to do it (the TV station even made sure we get enough slow-cadance replays of the throw...) Maybe because he's still young and doesn't know better how to put his message, maybe because of what you've mentioned, and they just use him for propaganda for the other side.
Nitro5Rigger@reddit
What a dumb fck of a human
Impressive_Pool_7959@reddit
trashing the water... what a asshole
marmotsarefat@reddit
I don’t think a medal would really pollute the nile
thefish12124@reddit
Same way as a smoker throws down a cigarette. He thinks 1 cigarette wont pollute.
Impressive_Pool_7959@reddit
idk if what mixture the medal is made of and i dont want to google it but pretty shure the strip its on is plastic so...
BlasphemousTheElder@reddit
Arent illegal occupiers of Turkey in Cyprus right as we speak?
thefish12124@reddit
Yeah exactly. And not only that. They provoke very often. They built a Turkish flag in the mountain of the occupied side and they light it up every night for many years now.
Plus they rip appart and destroyed almost all the occupied churches, they illegally pointing tanks and fly war jet in the free space of Cyprus yearly and so mich other which i need 2 hours ro write them down.
n0panicman@reddit
Amına koyduğumun islamcısı siktirsin gitsin gazzede savaşsın o zaman.
Upper_Commission4601@reddit
Ok for palestine but when his country killing kurdish civilians in syria no word! Fucking populist!
akselfs@reddit
Stunning and brave
anotherboringdj@reddit
and the Nile flows on. Fckn nobody cared
First_Rice_7427@reddit
Fuck Israel and fuck palestine
gk98s@reddit
"necmettin erbakan" he's probably an islamist. That name shouldn't even be allowed after what the original necmettin erbakan caused.
HovercraftPlen6576@reddit
The Chinese soldiers at Olympics or any other international events do a military gestures. Why aren't they banned? It's absurd, one's achievements can not be erased due to their believes and gestures.
XO1GrootMeester@reddit
Can happen. Local winner also threw away award by disagreement.
whateverB29@reddit
We should conquer Constantinopole and sentd Turkey back to Asia
Mister-Psychology@reddit
This is wushu in Europe so not super prestigious or well-known so the gold medal is nice to have, but not really valuable for anyone else. The rules are likely vague around flag waving.
In the Olympics certain flags are outright banned like the Taiwan flag. There they will for sure fine or ban you for waving it as a competitor. You are not allowed to wave it as a fan either. Even a banner saying "Taiwan" is forbidden. It's quite normal this is banned in competitions. He is still allowed to wave his own flag.
The issue may be the regulations. Big tournaments have it written into their rules often even mentioning specific flags and Taiwan and Palestine flags will be the 2 banned flags. They will also ban regional flags for Catalonia and such.
I_hate_ElonMusk@reddit
He could go on the internet, sell it for a good amount of money, use the money to help with hunanitarian aid to Palestinians, and Hamas could then use the aid to buy weapons. What a guy, what a waste. Plus polluting the river.
These-Maintenance250@reddit
Necmettin erbakan lol
JumpEmbarrassed6389@reddit
Turks being hypocrites once again.
TheAimIs@reddit
He should have thrown the medal away right when he took it, as his country does not recognise the second greater genocide (after Holocaust), the genocide of Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks by Turks. Are for Turkey bad all genocides or are only bad the genocides to muslims???
Chacabuco17@reddit
Wow
Tyranuel@reddit
עמ ישראל חי
Stverghame@reddit
Ne blamiraj se
Tyranuel@reddit
?
Stverghame@reddit
אל תשפיל את עצמך
Tyranuel@reddit
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
Bro speaking Minecraft table enchamanets.
Otherwise_Internet71@reddit
If this is Minecraft what do you think of Chinese characters 😂
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
Nippon should sue China for stealing their Kanji 🇯🇵 💪
Otherwise_Internet71@reddit
You know that's.....a little ridiculous because it's just the same as Israel sue Palestine for stealing its land(btw I know you're joking...right😣)
Cheydinhal-Sanctuary@reddit
Bro speaking in Windows unicode error message 🤣
BabylonianWeeb@reddit (OP)
Tyranuel@reddit
not the first time I have been told that xd
Late_Secret3480@reddit
Yes ,Turkey cares about Palestine .He did the same to Greek people at Ismir and people at Armenia. They can throw their medals to the river for them to!!!
d3fiance@reddit
What a pointless gesture
Ghostofcoolidge@reddit
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
Take his citizenship away
BasedBalkaner@reddit
Based Chad
Relative-Trick-6891@reddit
Islamist vs Zionist beef
alexandianos@reddit
In response he was bestowed with the honor of the Knight of Jerusalem, 100% deserved too, put aside his career ambitions and everything he’s worked towards for a more important cause