Man, I’ll never know how it is to feel „in the wrong“ body but that’s the reason I will also never understand why somebody willingly cuts away parts of your own body instead of accepting yourself as a „man“ with tits and pussy or a „women“ with dick.
Like, that whole love yourself movement told me you are perfect however you are, so why do we we chop off body parts instead of accepting ourselves the way we are?
Well there’s body integrity dysphoria, or “transabled”, which literally is wanting a body part to be chopped off like an arm or a leg, and they do shit like tie the offending limb behind their back to try and feel like it isn’t there. It has something to do with the body map in the brain being messed up.
Everything there is pretty good lol, you just earned them another fan. If your worst examples are better than the average onion article then they must be great. Maybe getting people to whine about them like this is some kinda business strategy?
Seriously it's just a mentally ill dumb skank who became true believer in shitlib nonsense unlike 90% of other Hollywood celebs who are just virtue signaling.
She got by with looks and was getting STUNNING AND BRAVE praises for munching carpet.
Then she hit the wall, and her wokester friends moved on to the T instead of other letters.
So she had a what's wrong moment. Influenced by train hysteria around her, she came to the wrong conclusion and destroyed her life with a self inflicted L.
I can understand lamenting it when the news broke but come on it had been years. Move on.
Yeah but like, gender dysphoria is still a pretty heavy break from rational thought. Which is not to say they’re bad or dangerous, but to suffer from gender dysphoria requires a divorce from rationality.
Not actually true, there are signs that brains can actually be "male" or "female" driven (measured by things like brain wave responses to different stimuli eg crying baby or whatever). In that case the rational thought from the brain would be that the body is wrong...right? Totally rational but in a strange scenario looks crazy from the outside
They’re not wrong, per se, but they forgot the part about how the cognitive dissonance is the disease that’s being treated, not the neurotypical brain.
One of my former friends went off the deep end while living with a trans roommate. She kept saying how her roomie would always constantly be telling her that she would look cute as a man and that she was for sure trans without realizing it. My friend eventually started to transition then backed out after breaking things off with her lunatic roommate.
You partially right, she was molested countless times and destroying her body givers her power over herself and gives her the control that she thinks she needs.
She's mentally absolutely fucked up by Hollywood, just immage you had to endure Harvey countless times and I bet he wasn't the only one who had a go
Elliot/Ellen Page I actually consider pretty convincing evidence that being Trans really is something people are born with.
She had ZERO incentive to transition. She basically threw away an acting career where she was making millions to actively make her life harder in every conceivable way.
Pretty strong argument for it being inborn if you ask me.
Trans isn’t something you’re born with, it’s a mental disorder that’s developed by your brain making weird connections that leaves someone with gender dysmorphia. Except now, you’ve got a bunch of progressive activists pushing that you don’t need gender dysmorphia to be trans and get social brownie points. Their whole acceptance movement has been weakened by a bunch of idiots latching onto it as an excuse to feel special, and when you thrown in predators sneaking in and using it as a cover, you see the pushback they get now.
Swap trans with depression. “Depression is really something people are born with. He had ZERO incentive to kill himself, he basically ruined his life while being a multi-millionaire all to end his life”
It’s reasonable to think being trans is something that can be developed over many years. The fact he transitioned as an adult doesn’t prove he was born with it.
I understand your logic, but if you talk to a lot of ftm trans people, a common theme is women who feel that their lives are unnecessarily difficult due to sexual objectification, and a belief that society inherently favors men. It's not inconceivable that even a famous actress would subconsciously believe that transitioning would not affect, or even benefit, her career.
a common theme is women who feel that their lives are unnecessarily difficult due to sexual objectification, and a belief that society inherently favors men
People are still gay in countries where if they find out they stone you, hang you or throw you from a roof. It must be a very deep biologial impulse if you go against your self-preservation like that
There is a similar situation with the pornstar Indigo White. She was very successful as an OF girl. And if you watch her videos there isn't a single hint that this is really a man trapped in a woman's body. It's not just the mannerisms and overall energy of the person but also her bedroom, the decoration, the cleanliness. There is omega levels of home-maker energy coming through. All 100% feminine. This person also threw it away to transition. You can perceive this as evidence that, "Wow, mental illness can do ANYTHING!"
When you watch footage of Ellen Page going all the way back to Trailer Park Boyz you can perceive possible lesbian energy but you never get, "that's a boy in a wig" vibes.
I look at it as convincing evidence that women are highly susceptible to social contagion and mental illness. Also consider that Ellen was a white woman and thus near the bottom of the progressive stack. She was always trying to be an activist about her tarded lefty politics but lefty white women activists are a dime a dozen. The only way she could gain status among activists and improve her standing in the oppression Olympics was to declare herself a gay and then when that wasn't a big enough deal, she mutilated herself and claimed the manlet mantle.
There is a similar situation with the pornstar Indigo White. She was very successful as an OF girl. And if you watch her videos there isn't a single hint that this is really a man trapped in a woman's body. It's not just the mannerisms and overall energy of the person but also her bedroom, the decoration, the cleanliness. There is omega levels of home-maker energy coming through. All 100% feminine. This person also threw it away to transition. You can perceive this as evidence that, "Wow, mental illness can do ANYTHING!"
When you watch footage of Ellen Page going all the way back to Trailer Park Boyz you can perceive possible lesbian energy but you never get, "that's a boy in a wig" vibes.
Among a wake of transphobic responses, I'll take a more nuanced approach. I think you're probably right. There is not enough of an incentive from "woke" politics for the transition considering the negative consequences. There is some inherent cause behind the decision. Now, we can debate mental illness all day long, but the truth is, there are some people who are better off after transitioning. That being said, I think a lot of people in the queer community (especially younger people) are caught up in the fad of it all.
To me it seems closer to anorexia, like a constant gnawing that something is "wrong" with their body, and they'll only be happy if they reach their ideal. Personally, I think undiagnosed autism has a lot to do with it.
not really, most show business celebrities are probably mentally ill in some way (high level of Neuroticism), so they eventually crash out one way or another. Just like how some people get addicted easily, they might develop a gambling addiction for example but that doesn't mean that gambling specifically was in their blood
Few stories are as funny as that one where the lesbo feminist went undercover as a man to prove how privileged we are, and the reality of life as a scrawny manlet was so horrific she wound up killing herself.
It was pure poetry. And the best part was after she revealed herself to the male friends she'd made, they were like "Yeah, we sort of figured but it's fine". She found out that men have solid friendships and women's friendships are almost completely fake.
She thought she could easily seduce women because she herself was a woman and knew what women wanted, and she completely failed to the point she admitted to these women she was actually a woman just to stop being judged/embarrassed by the women she tried to ask out.
Right, and she had absolutely no theory of mind for men. She (like many trans) regarded gender as merely a series of performative stereotypes and figured if she just "acted like a man" it would be easy-peasy. This is why women didn't respond to her advances and why the men clocked her almost immediately. For her, putting herself in a man's shoes was literally just putting on men's shoes.
Her name was Norah Vincent. She wrote a book called "Self-Made Man" about her experience going "undercover" as a man. ABC's 20/20 did a segment on her story, which you can find on YouTube.
Just wanted to say that even though I'm clowning her attempt to ape male behavior, the most positive takeaway from Norah's story is that she came away from the experience with a much different attitude towards men and their role in society. She ended up with a stronger sense of empathy for men and that's honestly fantastic.
"Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."
honestly in this day and age men AND women need each other more than ever
To be fair, she apparently suffered from depression issues for over a decade and blamed the effects of SSRIs for her inability to recover. Larping as a man didn't help her mental stability and she admitted that both the deception involved in living as a man and trying to hold two gender identities in her mind did not help her mental issues.
wait what? she didn't kill herself because of that. She'd been battling depression for at least ten years and eventually went through assisted suicide in Switzerland.
If you're already dealing with depression, and then you find out from firsthand experience that every one of your ideas about how the world works is completely and utterly wrong, you're probably not going to get better.
it's probably just the usual chinese whispers/internet viral rumour sort of shit that happens all the time. just look at that whole trump bleach injection fiasco - if you watch the video where he supposedly says it, he never actually explicitly says to inject bleach, but was wondering if there was something that could be done against the virus that worked as effectively as bleach does against bacteria. But people being people and the media being the media, they latched onto that for way too long.
It’s even more bizarre than that. Just before that, he was discussing a specific therapy that used light injected into to trachea to disinfect it. It had NOTHING to do with bleach ever.
Well that got dark ha, at first it reminded me of that super old OG YouTube video where the guy goes “undercover” with makeup and a dress as a woman for a night to see if they get harassed. And he goes “turns out women get called a f* a lot” lol
A person's alpha constant is multiplied by the natural log of their height above 4'8. which is going to be either 1x (5-6ft) 2x (6-6.5ft) or 3x (above 7ft). Meanwhile being below 4'9" will make your alpha score be a 1x/2x/3x respectively while also having an alpha score in euclidian space.
It is then supplemented by your beta score multiplied by the natural log of your income. So as long as you aren't a negative beta male, your income will on average be a plus 2.
Holy fuck, this shit is rea!? I mean, I never doubted that short king need to make more money to attract a mate, but holy fuck, I didn't think someone literally did the math on this, lol.
This said, 2006 was one full rating generation ago, and pre current generation with the ubiquity of dating apps, and economic conditions have also changed greatly. And the study is also about hypotheticals, and we know that people’s behaviors and said behaviors’ outcomes don’t necessarily match what they think in the abstract.
That's crazy, lol. I had no idea a paper covering this subject matter actually existed. I, too, thought you had pulled that statistic from your ass when I responded to MightB2rue.
I'm no mathematician but I count 36 feature films and numerous TV appearances on wikipedia. Were they paid like $222k each? Damn should have just been dentist
Tabloid estimates of celebrity networth are typically bullshit.
That said, yeah ~200k for a movie is pretty good pay for a lesser known actor on a smaller budget film.
Even well-known and well-liked actors usually aren't quite as rich as you'd think. Michael Clark Duncan had 101 acting credits over 17 years and his house was "only" worth 1.3mil just outside of LA (where even roach-infested studio apartments go for over 2k/mo)
She's a new class of victims where hollywood actresses have the biggest struggles in the world like having to get paid millions to look down the barrel of a camera. Truly horrific stuff.
We have a new rise of corporate religion where everyone is simping for the ultra wealthy. They put out trash and the extreme left demand that they are entitled to our money and we can't have any bad opinions on media.
Why don't people see the elephant in the room when it comes to troons? It's autism, it's always been autism. Normals don't dissociate when the look in the mirror, and most of you freaks are one day away from becoming Chris Chan.
A lot of people get molested young and grow up with perfectly healthy coping mechanisms.
Get therapy and never mention transitioning, now and days it’s illegal for them to tell you there may be some underlying reason for the way you’re feeling.
But then we're back to the original post. Why would anyone voluntarily give up their perfect life with no problems to change their gender which comes with surgeries, medication, extreme hate and personal danger, discrimination, probably effects on sex life, and many other struggles in day to day life? Seems like a bad deal to me if you're not afflicted with gender dysphoria.
Unless of course these people do feel a great disconnect between their identity and their sex which causes them enough psychological grievance that they willingly undergo all this.
I would say the much more narcissistic thing to say is that something you're not yourself affected by is not real.
And why do you even care? It apparently doesn't affect you, so what's your grudge?
And why do you even care? It apparently doesn't affect you, so what's your grudge?
why do you presume someone cares just because they have an opinion? i feel pity for all mental illnesses, but we shouldn't legislate to accommodate the whims of the mentally ill
Get creeped on and/or abused by Hollywood creeps because they're attracted to you
Destroy your body and try to became a man so this doesn't happen anymore
Now nobody is attracted to you anymore
It's not smart, it's not worth it, but there is a twisted sort of logic to it. Lots of victims go through similar transformations and make themselves less attractive "on purpose". Though it's a lot healthier to do so with less permanent changes so that it's possible to revert after you escape the unsafe environment.
Lots of victims go through similar transformations and make themselves less attractive as a defense mechanism.
This is more common than people even know. I dispatch PD and do social work with a few of my departments, sort of a victim services thing; responding to scenes to coordinate help but mostly victim welfare followups. I have seen it a bunch of times, a rape victim building a shell of ugliness to protect themselves. At first I thought it was just depression but I've met victims that stay that way for years. One in particular stands out. It's awful to see.
Bro clearly envies their previous position and desperately wants to be a qt who millions of dudes want to fuck. He can’t understand why anyone would give that up because that’s where he wants to be so badly.
The show is good. Bella just looks kinda weird, and it got trendy to make memes about it. Plus backlash to Joel/Pedro being dead. Which is what happened in the 2nd game anyway. People always get pissed when the protagonist from a movie or game gets replaced in the sequel no matter how (Chief vs Locke in Halo)
People always get pissed when the protagonist from a movie or game gets replaced in the sequel no matter how
On one hand i can agree but on the other u have games like Red Dead 2 where they easily could have had john marston be the main character again and chose not to, and the game's universally beloved. I dont think people would have reacted the same way if they didnt fuck up the story and dragged the first one down with it
Definitely answered my question of “why is it always guys transitioning to girls I hear about and not the other way around?”
Turns out being a guy really is harder IRL. And a woman transitioning to a man just doesn’t work. The only way it works is if the woman is already like 6 feet tall with broad shoulders and even then, all the testosterone is going to do is make you look goofy as shit. Have fun with your 6th grade puberty mustache as lady curves you fucking idiot.
You hear about dudes transitioning because they way more often turn out to be grotesque freaks. Hard to not notice a 6 feet tall dude in a skimpy dress. Also those guys that just want to beat women at sports.
A woman may end up way more aggressive thanks to hormones, but come on, it's still a small woman.
She said that she was depressed, and her psychologist told her to transition.
Actors are often pretty dumb and easy to manipulate, and also someone that started as a child actor, which seems to guarantee some mental problems.
That's your explenation.
sorry did that person do stuff to their face as well to appear more masculine? They look like they've aged radically in the photos I've seen, but maybe it was trying to be ungenerous in its portrayal. Either way the jowls and such don't look uh happy.
But ya it is quite the brave move going from a strong 9 to a 4 of the opposite sex, which is to say a ghost.
As someone who doesn't read news or follow social trends ...I don't know what's happening but it's entertaining anyways. You know when someone says something and laughs but you have no idea what they said so you just laugh and agree.
I only watched one episode of the most recent season of Umbrella Academy and it sucked fucking miserably. "Damn, this small town bar fully accepts the character's transition to the extent that they're just one of the guys HAW HAW SHORE DUN DID SLEEP WITH ALL THEM GIRLS AMIRITE?" Be supportive, that's fine, but fire your fucking writers if this is the horsepoop they're shoveling.
be born a qt girl
millions of basement dwellers wanna fuck you because you look like a child in a video game
decide to be a guy for personal reasons that may have nothing to do with these basement dwellers
basement dwellers rage on their basement dweller site about how the kid they wanted to fuck is now unfuckable
mistercrinje@reddit
she lost her appeal when she cut her hair and tits off
Thalilalala@reddit
She/he looks miserable in every picture past transition. Like no light in those eyes.
Oaker_at@reddit
Man, I’ll never know how it is to feel „in the wrong“ body but that’s the reason I will also never understand why somebody willingly cuts away parts of your own body instead of accepting yourself as a „man“ with tits and pussy or a „women“ with dick.
Like, that whole love yourself movement told me you are perfect however you are, so why do we we chop off body parts instead of accepting ourselves the way we are?
BenchyLove@reddit
Well there’s body integrity dysphoria, or “transabled”, which literally is wanting a body part to be chopped off like an arm or a leg, and they do shit like tie the offending limb behind their back to try and feel like it isn’t there. It has something to do with the body map in the brain being messed up.
GenTycho@reddit
Cause people think mental health can be fixed with irreversible physical mutilation.
SpezsFavoriteBull@reddit
Relevant Bee
Jaymongous@reddit
Republican Facebook dogshit at its best.
Starbonius@reddit
You could used literally anything and you went with the onion for Facebook grandparents.
MikoMiky@reddit
Tell me you got mad at the Bee without telling me you got mad at the Bee lol
Starbonius@reddit
The Babylon bee is known for such classics as
Elon Musk leaves job of making government more efficient for much easier job of sending humans to mars
Christian listens to "Baby It's Cold Outside" wondering why an unmarried couple was alone in the first place
Life Hack: Save money on home improvements by not doing them
American students unsure who to cheat off of after Trump revokes Chinese student visas
27-hour stalemate as Mormons knock on door of jehovahs witness
The Babylon bee would like to announce we're joining the NPR in suing the government for not giving us millions of dollars
Theology update: the "P" in "Psalms" not supposed to be silent
Trump responds to Putins charge of him being emotional with an all-caps tweet "I AM NOT EMOTIONAL"
South African President says skulls of White South African farmers are "Just Halloween decorations."
But yeah. The Bee is actually funny and I'm just mad.
NapoleonNewAccount@reddit
Some of these are pretty funny, what's the point you're trying to make?
aqlr@reddit
Everything there is pretty good lol, you just earned them another fan. If your worst examples are better than the average onion article then they must be great. Maybe getting people to whine about them like this is some kinda business strategy?
Starbonius@reddit
Bait, or brain damage?
Call it.
aqlr@reddit
Calm down dude lmao. I thought a joke you didn't like was funny.
MikoMiky@reddit
Lmao giant wall of text
He BIG mad
Starbonius@reddit
It's several small walls of text neatly organized for your viewing pleasure.
Just_Evening@reddit
cry_w@reddit
To be fair, it is relevant to what they are commenting to.
_lIlI_lIlI_@reddit
The joke also doesnt work when the image used for parody is obviously from a photo shoot and not a screen grab from an interview
OneEnvironmental9222@reddit
she looks a bit like Justin Bieber
Different_Fun9763@reddit
She
ParticularConcept548@reddit
Bro goes from easy mode to hard mode in life. Kinda based ngl
Demonweed@reddit
Of all the times to go 100% in on The Latest Thing^TM , he picked the worst possible cultural moment.
19Alexastias@reddit
That’s how he looked pre-transition too lol. Just has resting sad face.
OffTheRedSand@reddit
BROOOO this is my thoughts too throughout watching her growing up.
she always looked sad/miserable pre transitioning when she did it, it really did not shock me at all.
it low key made sense, especially with her being a lesbian.
Kizzu137@reddit
he looked depressed pre-transition too so no change really
Kanye_Is_Underrated@reddit
i hadnt seen any recent pics and googled... oh boy you werent exaggerating. jfc some people are so incredibly fucking dumb
_bruhtastic@reddit
There’s no point in looking for a logical motivation where there is none.
n00py@reddit
Exactly. Mental Illness doesn’t make sense. That’s why it’s mental illness.
alexriga@reddit
You sound like a professional psychologist. /sarcasm
SpezsFavoriteBull@reddit
Seriously it's just a mentally ill dumb skank who became true believer in shitlib nonsense unlike 90% of other Hollywood celebs who are just virtue signaling.
She got by with looks and was getting STUNNING AND BRAVE praises for munching carpet.
Then she hit the wall, and her wokester friends moved on to the T instead of other letters.
So she had a what's wrong moment. Influenced by train hysteria around her, she came to the wrong conclusion and destroyed her life with a self inflicted L.
I can understand lamenting it when the news broke but come on it had been years. Move on.
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Sounds like you haven’t
wordjedi@reddit
I would if I could
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
So?
ClockworkSalmon@reddit
Or maybe he was born with gender dysphoria and transitioned?
But sure keep writing fanfic about him if thats what makes you happy.
m4teri4lgirl@reddit
Yeah but like, gender dysphoria is still a pretty heavy break from rational thought. Which is not to say they’re bad or dangerous, but to suffer from gender dysphoria requires a divorce from rationality.
navak37@reddit
Not actually true, there are signs that brains can actually be "male" or "female" driven (measured by things like brain wave responses to different stimuli eg crying baby or whatever). In that case the rational thought from the brain would be that the body is wrong...right? Totally rational but in a strange scenario looks crazy from the outside
AntDracula@reddit
So, this implies that progressive thought has finally adopted
Interesting 180.
m4teri4lgirl@reddit
They’re not wrong, per se, but they forgot the part about how the cognitive dissonance is the disease that’s being treated, not the neurotypical brain.
m4teri4lgirl@reddit
No, it’s not. Thinking that you are the “wrong” sex is a complete deviation from reality.
Iggy0075@reddit
The pattern is everywhere, what he said about her and all is absolutely correct. Open your eyes.
cpr8768@reddit
Sad little incel
cpr8768@reddit
Hilarious people down voting me. Fucking losers fantasising about under age women/video game characters.
AntDracula@reddit
Post tits
cry_w@reddit
People who say "the pattern is everywhere" are typically either raving lunatics or trying to sell something.
Indy734@reddit
One of my former friends went off the deep end while living with a trans roommate. She kept saying how her roomie would always constantly be telling her that she would look cute as a man and that she was for sure trans without realizing it. My friend eventually started to transition then backed out after breaking things off with her lunatic roommate.
Iggy0075@reddit
awfulanna@reddit
Now, I don't see so good. And I don't hear that well either
AntDracula@reddit
cpr8768@reddit
You’re completely right, absolute freaks coming out with some waffle. I feel sorry for them, their parents did a terrible job.
ccznen@reddit
they want to be John Oliver so bad
Ebeneezer_Goode@reddit
False info
El-Dino@reddit
You partially right, she was molested countless times and destroying her body givers her power over herself and gives her the control that she thinks she needs.
She's mentally absolutely fucked up by Hollywood, just immage you had to endure Harvey countless times and I bet he wasn't the only one who had a go
Elusidwow@reddit
The irony of calling some celebrity mentally ill while you yourself conjured this comment out of the schizophrenia dimension.
skolrageous@reddit
unless the dude really is a dude. If you're a dude stuck in a chick's body, what length would you go to in order to feel like a dude again?
MidMixThinderDim@reddit
We're talking about real life, not freaky friday
StobbstheTiger@reddit
I respect the brave decision to transition from woman to manlet. Straight from easy mode to an iron man run on veteran.
2donuts4elephants@reddit
Elliot/Ellen Page I actually consider pretty convincing evidence that being Trans really is something people are born with.
She had ZERO incentive to transition. She basically threw away an acting career where she was making millions to actively make her life harder in every conceivable way.
Pretty strong argument for it being inborn if you ask me.
Bum_King@reddit
Trans isn’t something you’re born with, it’s a mental disorder that’s developed by your brain making weird connections that leaves someone with gender dysmorphia. Except now, you’ve got a bunch of progressive activists pushing that you don’t need gender dysmorphia to be trans and get social brownie points. Their whole acceptance movement has been weakened by a bunch of idiots latching onto it as an excuse to feel special, and when you thrown in predators sneaking in and using it as a cover, you see the pushback they get now.
_A_varice@reddit
It must be difficult being this regarded
Bum_King@reddit
What’s the matter, cupcake, did I strike a nerve by telling the truth? What’s wrong about what I said?
_A_varice@reddit
Nothing buttercup, just what you said is stupid and ignorant, that’s all.
Can you support your first sentence with anything resembling scientific fact? Or is it all your “common sense” feelings?
Hint: I know u can’t
Bum_King@reddit
You want me to prove that gender dysmorphia is a mental disorder?
Do-it-for-you@reddit
This is a bad argument.
Swap trans with depression. “Depression is really something people are born with. He had ZERO incentive to kill himself, he basically ruined his life while being a multi-millionaire all to end his life”
It’s reasonable to think being trans is something that can be developed over many years. The fact he transitioned as an adult doesn’t prove he was born with it.
Mig15Hater@reddit
Why are you calling it a he
ObjectBrilliant7592@reddit
I understand your logic, but if you talk to a lot of ftm trans people, a common theme is women who feel that their lives are unnecessarily difficult due to sexual objectification, and a belief that society inherently favors men. It's not inconceivable that even a famous actress would subconsciously believe that transitioning would not affect, or even benefit, her career.
AntDracula@reddit
Oh boy the lessons they are going to learn
gatosaurio@reddit
People are still gay in countries where if they find out they stone you, hang you or throw you from a roof. It must be a very deep biologial impulse if you go against your self-preservation like that
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
I don't see it as evidence for that.
There is a similar situation with the pornstar Indigo White. She was very successful as an OF girl. And if you watch her videos there isn't a single hint that this is really a man trapped in a woman's body. It's not just the mannerisms and overall energy of the person but also her bedroom, the decoration, the cleanliness. There is omega levels of home-maker energy coming through. All 100% feminine. This person also threw it away to transition. You can perceive this as evidence that, "Wow, mental illness can do ANYTHING!"
When you watch footage of Ellen Page going all the way back to Trailer Park Boyz you can perceive possible lesbian energy but you never get, "that's a boy in a wig" vibes.
porn_flakes@reddit
I look at it as convincing evidence that women are highly susceptible to social contagion and mental illness. Also consider that Ellen was a white woman and thus near the bottom of the progressive stack. She was always trying to be an activist about her tarded lefty politics but lefty white women activists are a dime a dozen. The only way she could gain status among activists and improve her standing in the oppression Olympics was to declare herself a gay and then when that wasn't a big enough deal, she mutilated herself and claimed the manlet mantle.
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
I don't see it as evidence for that.
There is a similar situation with the pornstar Indigo White. She was very successful as an OF girl. And if you watch her videos there isn't a single hint that this is really a man trapped in a woman's body. It's not just the mannerisms and overall energy of the person but also her bedroom, the decoration, the cleanliness. There is omega levels of home-maker energy coming through. All 100% feminine. This person also threw it away to transition. You can perceive this as evidence that, "Wow, mental illness can do ANYTHING!"
When you watch footage of Ellen Page going all the way back to Trailer Park Boyz you can perceive possible lesbian energy but you never get, "that's a boy in a wig" vibes.
stillmahboi@reddit
So if you look at Anthony Bourdain you go "yes men are more susceptible to mental illness"
Il-2M230@reddit
Me are more vulnerable to mental illneses
cell689@reddit
There's almost a 100% chance she had sex with Weinstein type dudes. More likely she transitioned because of trauma.
BigBallsMcGirk@reddit
I mean schizophrenia is something you're born with, too.
BackForPathfinder@reddit
Among a wake of transphobic responses, I'll take a more nuanced approach. I think you're probably right. There is not enough of an incentive from "woke" politics for the transition considering the negative consequences. There is some inherent cause behind the decision. Now, we can debate mental illness all day long, but the truth is, there are some people who are better off after transitioning. That being said, I think a lot of people in the queer community (especially younger people) are caught up in the fad of it all.
GrammarJudger@reddit
Define, "some" and "better."
Those two words are doing all of the lifting in your essay you wrapped this assertion around.
KiborgPolicajac@reddit
She had a very powerful incentive - a mental illness
Akira_Yamamoto@reddit
Making extremely stupid decisions is a stereotypical man thing to do so maybe she was born a man after all
Chadler_@reddit
To me it seems closer to anorexia, like a constant gnawing that something is "wrong" with their body, and they'll only be happy if they reach their ideal. Personally, I think undiagnosed autism has a lot to do with it.
_Ryth@reddit
not really, most show business celebrities are probably mentally ill in some way (high level of Neuroticism), so they eventually crash out one way or another. Just like how some people get addicted easily, they might develop a gambling addiction for example but that doesn't mean that gambling specifically was in their blood
TrajanParthicus@reddit
Few stories are as funny as that one where the lesbo feminist went undercover as a man to prove how privileged we are, and the reality of life as a scrawny manlet was so horrific she wound up killing herself.
porn_flakes@reddit
It was pure poetry. And the best part was after she revealed herself to the male friends she'd made, they were like "Yeah, we sort of figured but it's fine". She found out that men have solid friendships and women's friendships are almost completely fake.
Do-it-for-you@reddit
She thought she could easily seduce women because she herself was a woman and knew what women wanted, and she completely failed to the point she admitted to these women she was actually a woman just to stop being judged/embarrassed by the women she tried to ask out.
porn_flakes@reddit
Right, and she had absolutely no theory of mind for men. She (like many trans) regarded gender as merely a series of performative stereotypes and figured if she just "acted like a man" it would be easy-peasy. This is why women didn't respond to her advances and why the men clocked her almost immediately. For her, putting herself in a man's shoes was literally just putting on men's shoes.
crowmango69@reddit
Can I get a name? I'm intrigued.
porn_flakes@reddit
Her name was Norah Vincent. She wrote a book called "Self-Made Man" about her experience going "undercover" as a man. ABC's 20/20 did a segment on her story, which you can find on YouTube.
Just wanted to say that even though I'm clowning her attempt to ape male behavior, the most positive takeaway from Norah's story is that she came away from the experience with a much different attitude towards men and their role in society. She ended up with a stronger sense of empathy for men and that's honestly fantastic.
edbods@reddit
"Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."
honestly in this day and age men AND women need each other more than ever
AntDracula@reddit
She sounds like she was based. RIP
Crissae@reddit
Only in the end.... On her death bed.... In her final moments
dmthirdeye@reddit
I mean it completely broke her mentally she was a feminist and her entire ideology was shattered.
She went into a deep depression, never got out of it and killed herself via assisted suicide
porn_flakes@reddit
To be fair, she apparently suffered from depression issues for over a decade and blamed the effects of SSRIs for her inability to recover. Larping as a man didn't help her mental stability and she admitted that both the deception involved in living as a man and trying to hold two gender identities in her mind did not help her mental issues.
Evil_Patriarch@reddit
Just started watching that
She's 5'10", she didn't even have to suffer the full manlet experience
P41N90D@reddit
She had a depressive breakdown over it. And eventually had herself killed in Switzerland 3 years ago.
Stathes@reddit
Norah Vincent
edbods@reddit
wait what? she didn't kill herself because of that. She'd been battling depression for at least ten years and eventually went through assisted suicide in Switzerland.
TrajanParthicus@reddit
There's no pleasing some people.
FunkalicouseMach1@reddit
No, you can not please women.
KuntaStillSingle@reddit
Yeah, you can't.
haneybird@reddit
If you're already dealing with depression, and then you find out from firsthand experience that every one of your ideas about how the world works is completely and utterly wrong, you're probably not going to get better.
InsideSera@reddit
men seem to twist that detail a lot ive noticed
edbods@reddit
it's probably just the usual chinese whispers/internet viral rumour sort of shit that happens all the time. just look at that whole trump bleach injection fiasco - if you watch the video where he supposedly says it, he never actually explicitly says to inject bleach, but was wondering if there was something that could be done against the virus that worked as effectively as bleach does against bacteria. But people being people and the media being the media, they latched onto that for way too long.
AntDracula@reddit
It’s even more bizarre than that. Just before that, he was discussing a specific therapy that used light injected into to trachea to disinfect it. It had NOTHING to do with bleach ever.
realhandofglory@reddit
She killed herself because of depression which was worsened by the necessity to lie and live a double-life
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Okamana@reddit
who is this? i'd like to read more
dastumer@reddit
Nora Vincent, Self Made Man is the title.
Jedi-Guy@reddit
Self-Made Man by Nora Vincent. RIP.
ronmex7@reddit
Assisted suicide, yikes
theENERTRON@reddit
Well that got dark ha, at first it reminded me of that super old OG YouTube video where the guy goes “undercover” with makeup and a dress as a woman for a night to see if they get harassed. And he goes “turns out women get called a f* a lot” lol
fine93@reddit
yeah but thas like spawning in creative with max gear and the switching to survival while keeping all the resources
StobbstheTiger@reddit
Those resources only go so far. A 5' 1" man needs to make roughly $300,000 more a year to be as attractive as a 6' 0" man.
Also, I wonder how much of the resources remain, since the transition occurred during marriage. I wonder if a prenup survives transition.
MightB2rue@reddit
LMAO where the fuck did you pull that statistic from?
Onagda@reddit
He pulled it from my ass
-StalkedByDeath-@reddit
It's actually a pretty complex calculation.
A(h, I) = α * Ln(h - h₀ + 1) + β * Ln(I + 1)
Where: h = height in inches I = income in dollars h₀ = baseline height (58 inches) I₂ = income of the 6’0” man ln = natural logarithm
It's been published and cited over 500 times.
sumduud14@reddit
And Ln is penis length I guess?
Sauron_the_Deceiver@reddit
Natural log, so yes.
VicariousBrowser@reddit
But what about girth.
WHAT ABOUT GIRTH
Frequent_Flower7634@reddit
Girth is underrated. I have a quite long dick, but it's skinny. Girth > length
VicariousBrowser@reddit
those who know, know.
g spot is just an inch in and a little toesrd the pelvic bone
sixe queens sre a thing but not a lot of women want their cervix fucking hammered so length can work agains yo
not that i care, hung like a horse so not worried
or not, who knows, the internet has been known to lie
the2ndcomingofjebus@reddit
Thisnfucking killed me
Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit
Yeah, but in this case it isn't natural
Chilling_Dildo@reddit
Captain's Log?
VowedMalice@reddit
Andy's log.
here4astolfo@reddit
Half log 3 confirmed
johndoev2@reddit
This model makes no sense.
A person's alpha constant is multiplied by the natural log of their height above 4'8. which is going to be either 1x (5-6ft) 2x (6-6.5ft) or 3x (above 7ft). Meanwhile being below 4'9" will make your alpha score be a 1x/2x/3x respectively while also having an alpha score in euclidian space.
It is then supplemented by your beta score multiplied by the natural log of your income. So as long as you aren't a negative beta male, your income will on average be a plus 2.
Do. Better.
Jaruut@reddit
While you were nerding out with all those letters and shit in math class, I was under the bleachers smoking weed and listening to Slayer
VicariousBrowser@reddit
Gimme one, apa styke, broski.
ronmex7@reddit
Betas confirmed
StobbstheTiger@reddit
A paper from the University of Chicago. See Table 5.5 located on page 48. https://home.uchicago.edu/~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf
moregonger@reddit
holy shit this can't be real lmaoo
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Holy fuck, this shit is rea!? I mean, I never doubted that short king need to make more money to attract a mate, but holy fuck, I didn't think someone literally did the math on this, lol.
Purple_Cruncher_123@reddit
This said, 2006 was one full rating generation ago, and pre current generation with the ubiquity of dating apps, and economic conditions have also changed greatly. And the study is also about hypotheticals, and we know that people’s behaviors and said behaviors’ outcomes don’t necessarily match what they think in the abstract.
haneybird@reddit
So basically, things are even worse now.
moregonger@reddit
lmao
crowmango69@reddit
That's cute. Now sit down and eat your veggies.
nikoll-toma@reddit
lmao no fucking way there is a paper on that. as a manlet, its joever
-StalkedByDeath-@reddit
That's crazy, lol. I had no idea a paper covering this subject matter actually existed. I, too, thought you had pulled that statistic from your ass when I responded to MightB2rue.
Cordura@reddit
His ass
aoskunk@reddit
lol somehow it sounds accurate
Article_Used@reddit
the manosphere, very reputable sources
KuntaStillSingle@reddit
I've done it several times to wipe out credit card debt.
bunker_man@reddit
Pretty sure if you act in inception you have money to spare.
ForGrateJustice@reddit
H..how much do you have to earn if you're 5'11....?
schmitzel88@reddit
That's a double uphill battle because taller people tend to make significantly more on average
jorddo612@reddit
Hcim wildy only
Free-Design-8329@reddit
Let’s see her try that as an Indian
Bigbootycoomer@reddit
Trans indian manlet is the no hit 1 run all soulslike games challenge of real life
Kanye_Is_Underrated@reddit
maybe if she was unknown and not rich.
instead its trading privilege for slightly less privilege
YoNoSoyUnFederale@reddit
Staring new game + at level 1 but still has all items from previous playthrough
C_umputer@reddit
That amount of money is like being allowed to use cheat codes.
Jaruut@reddit
But then picking a different class
ForGrateJustice@reddit
Wow. Never saw it that way.
Double-Regular31@reddit
More like playing Far Cry Primal on Expert difficulty and permadeath on.
AzuleEyes@reddit
Except for me money. They're still playing on easy mode.
Skrewch@reddit
Using the money cheat
trampus1@reddit
A 9? Hundreds of millions? Sounds like there's still some fanboy in there.
Poly_Olly_Oxen_Free@reddit
According to a quick Google, EP has a net worth of $8m. Definitely a long way off from "hundreds of millions".
wordjedi@reddit
I'm no mathematician but I count 36 feature films and numerous TV appearances on wikipedia. Were they paid like $222k each? Damn should have just been dentist
InJaaaammmmm@reddit
Principle Skinner must be a millionaire!
fartsquirtshit@reddit
Tabloid estimates of celebrity networth are typically bullshit.
That said, yeah ~200k for a movie is pretty good pay for a lesser known actor on a smaller budget film.
Even well-known and well-liked actors usually aren't quite as rich as you'd think. Michael Clark Duncan had 101 acting credits over 17 years and his house was "only" worth 1.3mil just outside of LA (where even roach-infested studio apartments go for over 2k/mo)
stillmahboi@reddit
The networth stuff is just guessing nonsense.
ISIS_Sleeper_Agent@reddit
But she was in that one blockbuster where she played a plot device
stillmahboi@reddit
That stuff is just nonsense, networth is just some guy eyeballing it and going "sure why not"
No-Entertainer-840@reddit
OP has no clue what Hollywood actors make. There are Twitch streamers that make more than EP.
GandalfTheGay_69@reddit
Yes someone must have been madly in love. Even when he was Ellen Page he was always boyish looking.
Kanye_Is_Underrated@reddit
>he
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
Ellen was hot. Elliott is cringe.
100% she got abused by weinstein-types
vmpafq@reddit
It's her own fault for hanging out with them. She had every option in the world.
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Remember that when you’re raped in prison i guess
vmpafq@reddit
Speaking from experience ?
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Hey you’re the one justifying assault on a young woman as her own fault
vmpafq@reddit
If you climb into a lion's cage it's your own fault when you get bit.
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
These guys are humans, not animals. They chose to abuse her. It’s their fault entirely.
vmpafq@reddit
Humans are still animals. If you're a little white girl hanging out with elitist jews, what do you think they want with you?
AntDracula@reddit
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Yeah yours
AntDracula@reddit
https://coin-images.coingecko.com/coins/images/38514/large/masklogo.png?1717754902
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Hitting too close to home I see
AntDracula@reddit
Cope
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Yep you are
AntDracula@reddit
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Yep the strategy keeps working on you cause you keep coming back
AntDracula@reddit
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Correct
AntDracula@reddit
Cope and seethe and only respond if you’re not a pedo
Aozora404@reddit
What the fuck kinda ghetto you live in that going to prison is a matter of when?
Balthazar3000@reddit
/r/4chan
le_sossurotta@reddit
Not when you want to make it big in hollywood, you either sing their songs whose bread you eat or you get sent back in the milktrain.
vmpafq@reddit
Which is why Real 10/10 women want nothing to do with hollywood. You have to be sick in the head to want the celebrity life.
ptjp27@reddit
Suck rich guys dick to become millionaire, play victim, many such cases.
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
She's a new class of victims where hollywood actresses have the biggest struggles in the world like having to get paid millions to look down the barrel of a camera. Truly horrific stuff.
We have a new rise of corporate religion where everyone is simping for the ultra wealthy. They put out trash and the extreme left demand that they are entitled to our money and we can't have any bad opinions on media.
P41N90D@reddit
They are conditioned to do whatever it takes. Loot at Brendan Fraser, #MeToo should have started with him.
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
the only word women don't know is accountability. ☕️
deepstatecuck@reddit
FTM is often a trauma-induced obsession
masterpd85@reddit
The biggest troll is that s/he gave off lesbian vibes for years and no one noticed until Elliott transitioned.
Xcalibus@reddit
Why don't people see the elephant in the room when it comes to troons? It's autism, it's always been autism. Normals don't dissociate when the look in the mirror, and most of you freaks are one day away from becoming Chris Chan.
cpr8768@reddit
If you’re a mod in here, you’re a fucking loser. Eat shit ya gimps
ResponsibleWin1765@reddit
Anon has the privilege of not knowing why you would give up all that just to be in a different body.
PapiBIanco@reddit
A lot of people get molested young and grow up with perfectly healthy coping mechanisms.
Get therapy and never mention transitioning, now and days it’s illegal for them to tell you there may be some underlying reason for the way you’re feeling.
ConvertedHorse@reddit
ResponsibleWin1765@reddit
?
Those two things have literally nothing in common.
Whether you're born in the right body is pure luck. Why do you hate on those who didn't get lucky just because you did?
ConvertedHorse@reddit
no one is born in the wrong body, it's an incredibly narcissistic thing to even think
ResponsibleWin1765@reddit
But then we're back to the original post. Why would anyone voluntarily give up their perfect life with no problems to change their gender which comes with surgeries, medication, extreme hate and personal danger, discrimination, probably effects on sex life, and many other struggles in day to day life? Seems like a bad deal to me if you're not afflicted with gender dysphoria.
Unless of course these people do feel a great disconnect between their identity and their sex which causes them enough psychological grievance that they willingly undergo all this.
I would say the much more narcissistic thing to say is that something you're not yourself affected by is not real.
And why do you even care? It apparently doesn't affect you, so what's your grudge?
ConvertedHorse@reddit
why do you presume someone cares just because they have an opinion? i feel pity for all mental illnesses, but we shouldn't legislate to accommodate the whims of the mentally ill
AntDracula@reddit
Main character syndrome cranked up to 11
ResponsibleWin1765@reddit
How so?
hh26@reddit
It's not smart, it's not worth it, but there is a twisted sort of logic to it. Lots of victims go through similar transformations and make themselves less attractive "on purpose". Though it's a lot healthier to do so with less permanent changes so that it's possible to revert after you escape the unsafe environment.
BoosherCacow@reddit
This is more common than people even know. I dispatch PD and do social work with a few of my departments, sort of a victim services thing; responding to scenes to coordinate help but mostly victim welfare followups. I have seen it a bunch of times, a rape victim building a shell of ugliness to protect themselves. At first I thought it was just depression but I've met victims that stay that way for years. One in particular stands out. It's awful to see.
Lost-Match-4020@reddit
Anon forgot the part where she turned 30 and hit the wall HARD
StarFox_N64000@reddit
>9/10
Do Americans really?
MP-Lily@reddit
are we talking about the same person who was like 90% forehead before the male pattern baldness became a factor
Roommates69@reddit
Bro clearly envies their previous position and desperately wants to be a qt who millions of dudes want to fuck. He can’t understand why anyone would give that up because that’s where he wants to be so badly.
Space_Obama@reddit
9/10 is very generous unless Anon has a thing for cancer patients.
BanzaiKen@reddit
Her competition is so unfortunate not even Pedro Pascal could unfuck her videogame adaption.
Space_Obama@reddit
I haven't caught up with the show but apparently it's so bad it's making the second game look better?
BigBallsMcGirk@reddit
The show is good. Bella just looks kinda weird, and it got trendy to make memes about it. Plus backlash to Joel/Pedro being dead. Which is what happened in the 2nd game anyway. People always get pissed when the protagonist from a movie or game gets replaced in the sequel no matter how (Chief vs Locke in Halo)
imkindajax@reddit
On one hand i can agree but on the other u have games like Red Dead 2 where they easily could have had john marston be the main character again and chose not to, and the game's universally beloved. I dont think people would have reacted the same way if they didnt fuck up the story and dragged the first one down with it
Careless-Balance8534@reddit
The show is horrendous. Lol just play the games
cheapdrinks@reddit
Only thing 9/10 was her forehead size
Shamepai@reddit
She saw that she was balding and decided to transition.
Stacksmchenry@reddit
Sounds like anon went from a 1 in 10 billion chance to a 0.0% chance of sleeping with "her"
He's upset when he should be happy. Elliot freed anon from his copium addiction.
ccznen@reddit
A fascinating part of the internet is when randos confidentally write each others backstories.
sleepingjiva@reddit
She was not a 9/10 lmao
Cool_Guy_McFly@reddit
Definitely answered my question of “why is it always guys transitioning to girls I hear about and not the other way around?”
Turns out being a guy really is harder IRL. And a woman transitioning to a man just doesn’t work. The only way it works is if the woman is already like 6 feet tall with broad shoulders and even then, all the testosterone is going to do is make you look goofy as shit. Have fun with your 6th grade puberty mustache as lady curves you fucking idiot.
ThisConsideration835@reddit
More often than not women turning into men are just women with a yaoi fetish.
rooshavik@reddit
Honestly not even that totally unrelated but just searching up trans porn it’s more dicks with tits then lioness with a mane
HatefulSpittle@reddit
It's pretty easy to understand if you've been to Southeast Asia.
Ladyboys can look fantastic.
SNIP3RG@reddit
GreedySignature3966@reddit
You hear about dudes transitioning because they way more often turn out to be grotesque freaks. Hard to not notice a 6 feet tall dude in a skimpy dress. Also those guys that just want to beat women at sports.
A woman may end up way more aggressive thanks to hormones, but come on, it's still a small woman.
Wheres_my_phone@reddit
Face still looks wrecked for only 38 years old
BrainArson@reddit
Inception will never be the same...
mark2talyho@reddit
It’s about getting off on the humiliation
benis444@reddit
OP wish millions of chads around the world would want to fuck him. Confirmed OP is gay
barefootolly@reddit
make hundreds of millions ? where is this figure coming from ?
google says his/her net worth is around 8 mil
Outrageous-Rope-8707@reddit
Unless you’re an absolute bombshell, if you’re a straight white woman in Hollywood, you better be at least bisexual.
Dull-Fan6704@reddit
who is this in the gif?
futainflation@reddit
no idea, and I'm not zooming in to find out either, gay boy
Outrageous-Rope-8707@reddit
Ohhh look at mr hetero over here. Sure man, we alllll believe you. You’re sooooo straight and masculine bro and tough and hot
Space_Obama@reddit
That's where he keeps his totem so he can tell if he's dreaming or not.
LLMprophet@reddit
The "manlet" part should not be understated.
A petite cute woman is protected and treasured by the world.
An unusually short and scrawny 5'1" man has the pity or apathy of the world.
Even if you feel like you should be a man, this is strategically the wrong move to make.
lobotominizer@reddit
God I miss her
LEONARD-YYM@reddit
Me too budy me too...
JohnJingleheimerShit@reddit
She 1000% got molested as a child actor and that’s why she went nuts
AtomicMonkeyTheFirst@reddit
I wouldnt want to be a woman either, Im not going yo judge. He made the smart choice.
vlad_kushner@reddit
She had the life on very easy mode and decided to raise the difficulty.
GreedySignature3966@reddit
She said that she was depressed, and her psychologist told her to transition.
Actors are often pretty dumb and easy to manipulate, and also someone that started as a child actor, which seems to guarantee some mental problems.
That's your explenation.
Autisticus@reddit
Not yet, but soon possibly..
raise_the_sails@reddit
Is Elliott in this picture?
Canadia86@reddit
Yeah, on fucking opposite day😏
Free-Design-8329@reddit
So like a 10/9?
DrAbadeer@reddit
millions of "Chad's want to fuck you" I'd understand if someone told me they transition bcs of shit like this
awfulanna@reddit
Comfytendy@reddit
Same reason people play on the hardest difficulty in video games. People like the struggle.
Cumsocktornado@reddit
the body stuff put to the side did s-
sorry did that person do stuff to their face as well to appear more masculine? They look like they've aged radically in the photos I've seen, but maybe it was trying to be ungenerous in its portrayal. Either way the jowls and such don't look uh happy.
But ya it is quite the brave move going from a strong 9 to a 4 of the opposite sex, which is to say a ghost.
WhtRbbt222@reddit
I think it’s just the hormone treatments.
utkohoc@reddit
What happens if you don't read harry potter as a kid.
futainflation@reddit
I don't know who any of those people are
Pasha1997@reddit
As someone who doesn't read news or follow social trends ...I don't know what's happening but it's entertaining anyways. You know when someone says something and laughs but you have no idea what they said so you just laugh and agree.
abdullah-van-damme@reddit
tom hardy always stands like he has the massivest of balls
Isneezepepsi@reddit
she is a washed up celebrity that was desperate for attention, not exactly rocket science
Hotdogman_unleashed@reddit
Be a mini Ricky at impressionable point in life
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
I only watched one episode of the most recent season of Umbrella Academy and it sucked fucking miserably. "Damn, this small town bar fully accepts the character's transition to the extent that they're just one of the guys HAW HAW SHORE DUN DID SLEEP WITH ALL THEM GIRLS AMIRITE?" Be supportive, that's fine, but fire your fucking writers if this is the horsepoop they're shoveling.
BongWaterRamen@reddit
Fuckin way she goes, bud
damnmaster@reddit