Daniel Owen - Oh no... RTX 5060 and 5060 Ti 8GB vs 16GB Review
Posted by Antonis_32@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 123 comments
Posted by Antonis_32@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 123 comments
LooperNor@reddit
This video really highlights what the problem actually is, and a point a lot of people seem to be missing.
The GPU itself (both the 5060 and 5060 Ti) is perfectly capable of playing modern AAA games maxed out at 1080p, even 1440p, as long as they have enough VRAM, and Owen does a great job of pointing that out here.
I expect it will be similar for the 9060 XT. Honestly really tired of people defending these billion-dollar companies (both AMD and Nvidia) when they release products like this at stupid prices.
BFBooger@reddit
The main difference is NVidia does not have a 16GB option for the 5060, but AMD does have a 16GB option for the bottom of their stack and at a lower price point. Also, up and down the stack for over 4 years now AMD has had higher VRAM options, so the community is giving them a bit of good will because things like the 6700XT and 6800 exist, and on the NVidia side VRAM stinginess has been present for a long time except for the halo or near top end cards.
I think it is OK to release a lower tier, 'medium settings' card for those on a budget to save money -- this is nothing new, a decade ago and before that the entry level cards were not capable of 'ultra' or 'high' settings. Additionally if you're on a tight budget and only interested in playing games like Valorant, CS2, or Fortnite, that extra 8GB isn't gong to be helpful. Maybe you want to save the money and buy a faster CPU or something else instead, and if you do play a newer game you're ok with medium settings.
But I suspect most consumers won't be well enough informed to make the choice that is right for them and this can be deceptive.
b0tbuilder@reddit
My prediction is that after the 50xx series, nvidia will lean more and more on DLSS to make things playable and stop advancing. This way they won’t have to worry about higher vram cards competing with their dedicated AI hardware
only_r3ad_the_titl3@reddit
The video really does a great job and yet you somehow take incorrect conclusions from it.
"The GPU itself (both the 5060 ~~and 5060 Ti~~) is perfectly capable of playing modern AAA games maxed out at 1080p, even 1440p, as long as they have enough VRAM"
LooperNor@reddit
You're reading more into what I said than what is there. Not every AAA will be fine maxed on a 5060, but that's not the point and it's also fine for a "budget" card.
Lots of people are also perfectly happy with ~40 FPS.
Tight_Objective_5875@reddit
Absolutely agree. Not too long ago, as long as frame-rates didn't drop below 30, all was well with the world. Sometimes "Good Enough" is all we're going to get, unless there's big $ $ $ involved.
labree0@reddit
Monster hunter world is a catastrophe of a game that runs like shit on even the best hardware
94 FPS on spiderman 2 seems...great?
Oblivion remastered runs poorly for what it is on all hardware.
73 fps on clair obscure seems...great? Have you seen that game? Get rid of the messed up sharpening and its by far one of the most visually interesting and arresting games i've seen in a very long time.
only_r3ad_the_titl3@reddit
yes on medium not on highest quality settings.
TheHodgePodge@reddit
Nobody's denying those games aren't poorly optimized.
Morningst4r@reddit
MFG and DLSS make this worse too. My 3070 still holds up pretty well with a frame gen mod and DLSS balanced/performance at 1440p... as long as I don't run out of VRAM. I can usually tweak enough settings to get it over the line, which is acceptable in a 5 year old card, but it's really not OK in a new GPU.
LittlebitsDK@reddit
it's so obvious that people refusing to see it is simply out of range for common sense and logic
Plus_Tale_708@reddit
so should i buy the RTX 5060 ti 16gb?
ShameDecent@reddit
I have a 3070 and I'm considering buying one. Double the memory capacity would be very handy in No Mans Sky and running local LLM.
Too bad the 8gb>16gb memory chips resoldering is unreliable (can cause black screens) or I would have go that way with 3070.
CorrectLength4088@reddit
You can probably get buy with med-high if you optimize. max settings + rt on 60 will be a meme. I feel bad for normies who dont know any better. But ignorance is bliss
Prince_Uncharming@reddit
People who buy $299 cards in 2025 aren’t expecting to play on max settings + rt.
GloriousCause@reddit
But this very video shows the cards actually are in fact powerful enough to run at max settings with RT (when you give them enough VRAM). Glad he used the 16GB 5060 Ti to illustrate this point since the "they aren't powerful enough for those settings anyway" myth is still going strong.
labree0@reddit
Which is exactly why i got irritated when i saw (i think digital foundry) say that the 5060ti 16gb is a bad buy because even though it has enough Vram, it cant run games well enough, and the 5070 is a bad buy because it doesn't have enough Vram, but can run games well enough. and i was just like...
I have a 5070. i play games at 4k. Its fine. the occasional game has an issue and i have to turn textures to high or medium instead of ultra, but with DLSS and frame gen its seriously fine. its not $700 fine, which is what i played, but its fine in this market where all gpu's cost a fortune.
the 5060ti 16gb is fucking compelling. I wish i was willing to wait another month to get it instead of my 5070.
Tight_Objective_5875@reddit
I still think you did okay with your purchase. I lucked out and got a 5060 ti 16gb for $430 from PNY, the 5070 is head-and-shoulders faster, but I still couldn't find one for less than $605, which was way out of my budget. ($430 wasn't much better.) 12GB should be able to carry forward for a few years unless developers just start getting stupid with requirements.
I'm guessing the writing is on the wall for 8gb cards, though.
krilltucky@reddit
Digital foundry also said the Avowed devs choosing 30fps on console in a first person game for artistic reasons is good. their game tech videos are fine but their opinions are insane
2FastHaste@reddit
Yeah but it run at like \~60fps 1080p.
Is it really what gamers want to do in 2025? Play games at 60fps? Pretty sure most gaming monitors these days are minimum 144Hz.
If you ask me, most modern games are way too demanding to be played on such hardware at max settings.
GloriousCause@reddit
60fps is a good baseline for x2 frame gen to hit over 100fps. It usually works well in single player games like this.
teutorix_aleria@reddit
Personally i find frame gen sucks till you hit about 70-80fps, thats FSR3 and AFMF though, dlss might have less overhead.
wilkonk@reddit
DLSS has more overhead in frame gen
2FastHaste@reddit
OK TBH that's a fair point. FG/MFG can save it.
I'll give you that.
KoldPurchase@reddit
There's a million player on Counter Strike 2. It's not the only e sports game out there (I'm not familiar with them all). There's a market for that low end segment and for system integrators.
It's different than if someone comes on a Redsit sub asking if an 8gb card is enough saying he wants to play the latest games at 1440p.
iDontSeedMyTorrents@reddit
Lmao bro consoles have been doing half that for decades. How many many Playstations, Xboxes, and Nintendo consoles have people bought?
Touch grass.
kostas52@reddit
The 5060TI cant even get 144 fps at 1080p low settings on DOOM Dark Ages unless you are planning on playing at 720p or with DLSS and maybe FG too targeting 144fps is unrealistic.
NedixTV@reddit
My dude 2060 was release on 2021 and 4 years ago(or almost) people had that expectation
BFBooger@reddit
And your point is?
60 series cards 10+ years ago couldn't run max settings.
12+ years ago the entry level / lower mid range were all 'medium, maybe high settings' cards. Only the 80 series could do 'ultra' on the latest games.
This changed with the 1000 series through 3000 series because at that time newer games were also made to work on consoles with low memory capacity, and other than CP2077 and a few other isolated cases RT was not a big thing.
This has changed many times over the years, but its not a new thing that a 60 series card at the entry level price point (which sadly has become near $300, when it used to be $140) can't run max settings.
It is certainly disappointing, but don't act like it is new.
ZekeSulastin@reddit
The 2060 released in January 2019 and was the last of the initial 20-series models to release (the 2080/Ti launched in September 2018).
NedixTV@reddit
nice, 2021 was the 3060 then most likely... and make my post even worst LMAO
TheHodgePodge@reddit
If they pay more than their previous gpu then they will actually expect to have better visuals, because in their head more money to pay equals significantly better gpu performance.
Prince_Uncharming@reddit
Ok, and? This $300 GPU, despite its flaws, is leagues better than any previous $300 gpu, what point are you trying to make
dern_the_hermit@reddit
Those expectations are set by Nvidia and AMD, tho, and are a function of the limits they set for their cards.
Another way of looking at it is everyone who buys one of those 8-gig cards is buying an artificially hobbled product.
nukleabomb@reddit
Likewise people who can only get a $299 card won't be splurging on brand new $80 games. You're more likely to find them suffering from a severe cpu bottleneck.
Also most of these will end up in pre builts for Fortnite kids.
GloriousCause@reddit
What makes you think people buying a $1000+ PC (which is what a lot of these 5060/5060 Ti prebuilds are) don't buy new AAA games? Not to mention those that play them without paying full price (subscriptions, high seas, sales a few months later, etc)
BighatNucase@reddit
Most people don't buy many new games in the first place.
teutorix_aleria@reddit
oblivion remastered is on game pass. Basically all major xbox releases are.
nukleabomb@reddit
Most of these $1000 prebuilts are just going to be gifts to children or as the first PC. These aren't the kind of people to drop big bucks on new games and max settings. These are the kind of people who leave everything on auto and just play.
The people who will buy just the card will be dropping it into an existing system, replacing their old 1650/2060 whatever else.
Both of these cases you are likely to see bigger issues with CPu bottleneck or lack of NVMe storage and tbh these people will care less because they don't play broken AAA games for full price at launch.
The market has successfully converted the old $200 xx50 card buyers into $300 xx60 card buyers.
GloriousCause@reddit
Seems like you have a lot of speculation, but do you have any data to back any of it up? The only place I can think of to correlate low end of hardware and the games being played on it is for Steam Deck: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/05/heres-the-most-played-steam-deck-games-for-april-2025-balatro-still-top-but-oblivion-remastered-sneaks-in-second/ Where usually the new big AAA releases like Oblivion Remastered, Monster Hunter Wilds, Assassins Creed Shadows, etc all usually hit near the top of the chart the month they are released.
fmjintervention@reddit
Do you think people spending $1000+ on prebuilts aren't buying new games? Do you think console gamers aren't buying new games? If I was a new PC gamer that didn't know any better and spent $1200 or more on a pre built with a 5060Ti 8GB and all my games ran like shit and looked terrible I'd be furious. One of the major selling points of PC gaming is the graphics and framerate. I'd be taking it back to the shop and demanding an explanation as to why a device I spent more than double the cost of a console on runs games worse than a console. Stop defending this crap. These cards are ending up in prebuilts that cost over $1000 and you defend it not being able to run games at 1080p. 1080p! In 2025!
nukleabomb@reddit
Do you think consoles run ultra or extreme textures?
fmjintervention@reddit
No, but neither does a 5060/Ti 8GB
GloriousCause@reddit
What makes you think people buying a $1000+ PC (which is what a lot of these 5060/5060 Ti prebuilds are) don't buy new AAA games? Not to mention those that play them without paying full price (subscriptions, high seas, sales a few months later, etc)
shy247er@reddit
Normies? People like you don't seem to understand that buying 8 GB VRAM card is already a stretch for a lot of people and that "spending just a little bit more" is not an option. And depending on markets around the world, that can easily mean 100+ USD to get a card with more than 8 GB VRAM.
And used market? That can also be a mess, not to mention that most people cannot afford to buy card without (or soon expiring) warranty.
Most people ain't uninformed, they just can't afford better hardware.
Reddit is so out of touch.
BFBooger@reddit
Yeah, it is completely rational for someone to choose to save $50 or more and go with the 8GB card if their budget is tight. Yeah, maybe medium settings will be required instead of ultra on the newest games, but that is an acceptable compromise for some.
Plus, someone on a tight budget like that is almost certainly not playing AAA games day 1 and paying $50 to $80 a game. There are thousands of great games that work on lower specs both new and old and many highly popular multiplayer ones.
Emergency_Sound_5718@reddit
As long as R6, CS2, LoL, OW2, Rivals, DOTA2, PUBG, Apex, Warzone, WoW, EVE, GW2, FF XIV, Warthunder & mobile Gacha games rake in billions GPU's like the RTX 5060 8Gb will sell.
novostranger@reddit
Zenless Zone Zero hates low vram pcs for example. It's quite demanding
reddit_equals_censor@reddit
that is absolutely not how this e-waste sells.
the 5060 8 GB is solely targeting system builders, especially the garbage oems.
the goal is to scam people, who don't know much about graphics cards. forcing them to upgrade very quickly after the first card already shipped broken and also making the card absolutely worthless as a used card, except as a pure video output.
that is the goal here.
also the people, who play the mutliplayer games you mentioned also play single player games from time to time.
and anyone understanding the 8 GB scam would not buy an 8 GB card at all now.
it is purely trying to scam people.
there is no person "yeah, but i can save a bit and get the broken 8 GB version" anymore, or if there are, they are complete idiots.
7/8 games broken in 1080p max settings.
and the next multiplayer games are coming, that require a bunch more vram.
the next big mmo as you mentioned ff xiv will almost certainly require more than 8 GB vram to not look like a dumpster fire and especially at 1080p max settings.
Able-Lawyer-8045@reddit
I'm literally gonna buy the 5060 8gb because it's the cheapest and I only play CS2 on medium settings, 4:3 stretched.
Currently, the prices in my country are:
5060 8gb - 300euro
5060ti 8gb - 400euro
5060ti 16gb - 470euro.
So, I'd rather save 170 euros, sell my current 9600x and add that difference to the CPU upgrade (x3d)
GabrielP2r@reddit
Buy a used 1070 for less than 100 euros? It's counterstrike you just need a good CPU, it would be braindead to waste more than 100 euros on the GPU.
Klappmesser@reddit
Nah cs2 is not cs 1.6. You still need a somewhat capable GPU if you want high fps.
GabrielP2r@reddit
1070 is very capable for CS, I had one and reached easily more than 200fps
Klappmesser@reddit
This guy wants to buy a 9800x3d I don't think 200fps is what he aims for. He wants 400-500 with a high refresh panel.
GabrielP2r@reddit
If money was not a problem then he would just buy a high tier GPU, if he even thinks about buying a 5060 then he should buy used 99% of cases.
There's nothing that a 5060 offer at its price point that is not beaten by AMD or older Nvidia gen for cheaper, sorry it's just nonsense.
Klappmesser@reddit
Because it's cheap and new? What would you buy the used market is expensive too.
GabrielP2r@reddit
It's not cheap, used market is cheaper
Itwasallyell0w@reddit
5060ti 16gb is very bad priced card and not worth it. 5060 on the other hand is the best perf per $ right now. These YouTubers gone 🤣
Able-Lawyer-8045@reddit
You have a point, but you missed the part where I have the 1660 Super (because I didn't mention that part hahah. My bad).
I wont upgrade to a 1070. Nor a 1080ti for that matter.
I want a 5000 series card, because they support Reflex 2, which lowers input latency drastically. And they are quite capable cards for every game if you crank down settings from Ultra to High or Medium on 1080p (I don't have a 1440p monitor, I have 1080p 240hz, so I'd rather have more frames than eye candy. But that's me).
terraphantm@reddit
Do you think you represent the typical Mormons or even the typical enthusiast?
Able-Lawyer-8045@reddit
BTW, I won't engage you. I've read all your replies with BighatNucase, and you have no idea what you saying nor backing anything up. You're a "trust me bro" type of guy.
Go dress up barbies, there's probably a steam game you can buy for that. We guys, we will play our repeating and boring CS2 and similar games.
terraphantm@reddit
"We guys" lmao, that explains a lot- have fun playing with all the other 12 year olds. It's a big accomplishment to be able to afford a 5060 at your age!
smartymatic@reddit
You sound sour that everyone keeps down-voting you.
Trying to insult someone with age just shows another part of your ignorance. Assuming he's 12, you are more childish than him.
terraphantm@reddit
I couldn't care less about the downvotes. I just find these kids hilarious. Trying to attack masculinity as an insultt absolutely screams insecure 12 year old
BighatNucase@reddit
The typical steam user plays 4-5 games a year. Not 'buys', 'plays'! The average user probably does just play a handful of CS2, DOTA2, and whatever other F2P game.
terraphantm@reddit
I guarantee you 99% of those users are trying to play CS2 at a 4:3 res and then upgrading their CPU to a modern x3d variant. Thats firmly in the realm of the wannabe competitive esports players, which is a minority.
The majority are just getting whatever prebuilt or laptop that’s advertised that’s advertised as gaming capable.
BighatNucase@reddit
I guarantee you 99% of those users are probably getting new hardware just to play CS2/whatever their game of choice is.
terraphantm@reddit
Yeah I’m sure the majority of steam users are into competitive esports, lmao
skycake10@reddit
CS2 literally has 3 times more current players than the second place game right now. It takes the next 5 games combined to match the current players of CS2.
terraphantm@reddit
A plurality does not make a majority. That still represents a small minority of overall Steam users as Steams' own numbers show. The majority are not playing CS2 and similar titles. 2% of gamers do not dictate the market.
BighatNucase@reddit
I'm sorry that your only now discovering the wider games industry.
terraphantm@reddit
You live in such a bubble if you think you represent the majority. Thats the funniest thing I’ve read all week
BighatNucase@reddit
I'm not giving you my own spin on things; I'm like the .00001 of the 1% of players on steam in terms of how many games I play (based on my steam replay). I'm telling you how things are based on the data I've seen and the behaviours I can observe even from 'hardcore' gamers. People only buy like 1 or 2 games a year on average and spend most of their time in the same live service games for the rest of the year. You're just wrong if you believe anything otherwise is the norm.
terraphantm@reddit
People may buy 1-2 games a year. Hell, I buy 1-2 games a year at best and can go months to years without playing anything. It is a very big leap to go from that to claim the majority of those players are playing esports style titles. Thats asinine.
BighatNucase@reddit
Ok, all the player metrics are wrong. You're right (with no evidence to back that up).
terraphantm@reddit
You’ve backed up jack shit. Dig into the data, it won’t support your claims. Hint: the majority of games people are playing are not multiplayer games at all
BighatNucase@reddit
I'll clarify here because I just noticed a point of contention; you keep pigeonholing me into a position of "People just play esports" - I never said that. I said people only play 1 or 2 new games a year and then revert to their live service or long term game of choice; while this can be an esports title, it can also be something like Destiny or any other free game like it.
What's your evidence for your position? For the past 24 hours the top 5 games on Steam were CS2, DOTA, PUBG, Apex Legends and a free idler called 'Bongo Cat'. The Multiplayer games between them peaked at around 3m concurrent players. In Number 6 you have another idler called 'Banana' and then in number 7 you have Wallpaper Engine. Rank 8 is F2P Extraction Shooter Delta force, 9 is Rust and 10 is Helldivers 2. The first title which isn't a seasonal release or some kind of live service game? Number 17; Stardew Valley (a game released a decade ago). Again, this is just looking at Steam; the biggest grossing games every year are Gacha games and the seasonal releases of COD/FIFA/Madden. You are out of touch if you think most people are doing anything but playing their preferred multiplayer game/GAAS 90% of the time.
There's a reason everyone is chasing the live service trend - it's what people want! The people voted with their wallet and the industry was crippled as a result.
terraphantm@reddit
The majority of systems in a steam survey at a given moment are not playing anything. They play whatever their game of choice is, finish, and then play nothing for months to years. THAT group is the majority. The concurrent players at a given moment on Steam are a small minority of players who have a ridiculous amount of engagement.
Look at the Steam numbers right now. Roughly 37M online. 4% of those are playing CS2. If you add up every single game in the top 100, you only reach 7M. And that's only the people online right now. Most Steam users don't even log into steam daily.
The numbers you're counting are a minority of players with very high engagement. But the majority of steam users do not have that level of engagement.
BighatNucase@reddit
I don't know how to explain your corruption of these numbers; just because not everyone is playing games at the same time, it does not mean the majority of players only play 1 game and then nothing for months. You've got no real proof of this beyond a shoddy reading of the stats.
Even if we grant this, why would hardware reviewers tailor their reviews to anyone but the actually engaged userbase? People that don't really play games certainly don't need use reviews (if they even exist at all in this sphere).
terraphantm@reddit
They shouldn't. But the argument is usually 'most people play with a 60 class GPU from a few generations back, therefore the reviews of high end hardware are pointless'. The minority with high engagement does not necessarily have the same specs as the typical Steam user who plays nothing most days and launches some shovelwear every now and then.
BighatNucase@reddit
And again, you have no real data for that beyond "the concurrent playcount for the biggest games doesn't equal the total online usercount for steam" as if every user will be playing games at the exact same time or that steam users only ever play games on steam.
BighatNucase@reddit
I'll clarify here because I just noticed a point of contention; you keep pigeonholing me into a position of "People just play esports" - I never said that. I said people only play 1 or 2 new games a year and then revert to their live service or long term game of choice; while this can be an esports title, it can also be something like Destiny or any other free game like it.
What's your evidence for your position? For the past 24 hours the top 5 games on Steam were CS2, DOTA, PUBG, Apex Legends and a free idler called 'Bongo Cat'. The Multiplayer games between them peaked at around 3m concurrent players. In Number 6 you have another idler called 'Banana' and then in number 7 you have Wallpaper Engine. Rank 8 is F2P Extraction Shooter Delta force, 9 is Rust and 10 is Helldivers 2. Again, this is just looking at Steam; the biggest grossing games every year are Gacha games and the seasonal releases of COD/FIFA/Madden. You are out of touch if you think most people are doing anything but playing their preferred multiplayer game/GAAS 90% of the time.
There's a reason everyone is chasing the live service trend - it's what people want! The people voted with their wallet and the industry was crippled as a result.
Able-Lawyer-8045@reddit
I didn't claim to represent any group.
But I know this, from my 7 friends, 1 guy plays campaign type games, AND play CS with us sometimes, the other 6 ONLY play CS (one of them plays Warzone occasionally).
I am a PC enthusiast. I built mine part for part, with a future upgrade path plan. If I had the money, I'd know what to buy right away. I didn't, so I just made sure to be able to upgrade as I get the money. I've chosen the MOBO and the PSU carefully to not need to upgrade when I get the X3D variants from AMD.
BFBooger@reddit
Yes, if you just play a handful of those games 24/7 then it might be a waste to pay extra for 8GB more RAM. And these sorts of games will keep being launched and they will always have much lower system spec targets than AAA graphically intense non-competitive games.
I get it, 8GB is pretty crappy for a lot of gamers, not being able to run higher than "medium" settings on new games is fairly pathetic. But it is not something new -- 10 years ago, a 60 series card wasn't expected to run ultra settings. Before that, entry, mid level, and halo cards were almost defined by this fact: entry runs medium, mid level runs high, and halo cards run ultra. That changed around 2017 to 2018 when suddenly everything had 6GB or more and Consoles had very little RAM so very few games pushed hard on memory consumption for years.
That said, 8GB more RAM is not a big portion of the GPU cost these days, and NVidia _could_ have chosen 3GB modules and went with 12GB. Though the rumors are that 12GB would cost about as much as 16GB because the 3GB module supply is too low at this time.
So my prediction:
5060 Super, next year. Same price, 12GB, slightly higher boost clocks.
Vb_33@reddit
My prediction is 5070 and 5080 super with more VRAM (18GB and 24GB). 5090, 5070ti, 5060ti and 5060 stay on 2GB memory modules. 60 series will expand 3GB memory usage.
Antonis_32@reddit (OP)
TLDR:
Percentage differential: RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is 15-18% faster than RTX 5060 8GB when not VRAM limited. When VRAM limited the difference is much greater
Geomean: RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is 26% faster than RTX 5060 8GB
BFBooger@reddit
So... 8GB is a 'medium settings' card on newer games, if you try ultra you'll have a bad time, but 'medium' the performance is OK.
viperabyss@reddit
So...exactly the crowd who would buy the xx60 series GPU.
r_z_n@reddit
For a long time now the 60-tier GPUs have generally been able to run 1080p Ultra. I had a 3060 Ti 8GB from 2020 that was quite capable at even 4K with Medium settings.
Fast forward 5 years, and the new 60-series cards have the same amount of memory, and are now relatively less capable than the 60 series cards were.
We are regressing, and that's the problem.
viperabyss@reddit
If 3060Ti 8G at 2020 can run at 4k with medium settings, then 5060 8G at 2025 can run at 4k with medium settings.
Of course, unless during this time, the requirement of game vastly increased...
r_z_n@reddit
This video doesn't cover it, but I am strongly doubting that 4K is going to be doable with games released in 2025 based on the fact that VRAM was a limitation at 1440p max settings in all 8 games. 4K is a 2.25X pixel increase over 1440p.
And yes obviously the requirements of games released 5 years later have increased, but so should the throughput of the GPU.
My 3060 Ti was already hampered in some games by 8GB of RAM which is why I upgraded to a 16GB card this year. 8GB cards really shouldn't exist anymore on anything above a 50-series card.
viperabyss@reddit
That's my point. It isn't that the GPU isn't capable anymore, but that games released in 2025 has such high uncompressed textures that 8G VRAM isn't sufficient anymore for higher resolutions.
But again, xx60 has never been designed, or even marketed for the 4k crowd. Sure, you can perhaps do some simple games like Factorio at 4k, but it was never meant to perform well at that resolution.
Over 50% of Steam users are running at 1080p, with 1440p barely hitting 25%. The xx60 series are designed for 1080p folks. As long as it can perform well at that resolution with acceptable pricing, it's really hard to see what the problem is.
r_z_n@reddit
That's the problem. The 8GB cards are already hampered out of the box at 1080p when the card is new. You could argue that this is only using native resolution and that people can turn on DLSS, and fair enough. But the problem is only going to get worse as the card ages.
viperabyss@reddit
Techpowerup shows a very different story. At 1080p, outside of selected games, having extra VRAM doesn't really impact the performance much. In fact, most of the games that show severe degradation are games originally designed for Playstation.
This is their conclusion:
8G is still a solid choice for 1080p gaming, outside of some outliers.
hackenclaw@reddit
buy the cheapest 8GB vram GPU if you cannot afford the ones has more than 8GB. (and you still want a new GPU)
finlandman@reddit
I have an 8GB GPU - RX 570. Unfortunately, it does not run MSFS 2024 as it lacks DX 12_1 support. So what are my options? I won't consider used cards, don't want to deal with extra risk. From retailers the cheapest option is RX 6600 for 207 euros. If I compare this card to RTX 5060, the latter is about 30% better according to G3D Mark, probably similar results from other benchmarks. It does cost 340 euros (133 euros more than RX 6600), but supposedly it is also a newer card with newer technology and it consumes less power so I see the extra cost as reasonable.
I understand that the extra VRAM would be great for some games (I'll use 1440p when possible). Especially concerning is the potential VRAM usage in MSFS 2024, but does it increase the gaming experience as much as to pay an extra 160 euros for it (RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB costs here about 500 euros), I don't know. What do you think?
As of now, I am guessing my bottleneck is going to be CPU anyway since my setup is from year 2017 (CPU is i3-8100) so that possibly VRAM does not even enter the equation until I can upgrade my CPU. But I would still feel weird buying an older GPU for over 200 euros when I can buy a modern GPU for 340.
bobbie434343@reddit
If you are still not tired of being angry and melting in rage at 8 GB GPUs, that's the $DEITY-tier video you have been waiting all your life.
Vb_33@reddit
Oh thank you Jesus for hearing my prayers!
bobbie434343@reddit
The one and only Jesus is tech Jeeeezus aka GN Steve and man (or rather tech prophet) is mad at NVIDIA for sure!
DroidLife97@reddit
Why are people bringing up unnecessary points like market share in steam hardware survey bla bla bla.. mate the 5060 and 5060Ti are capable of 1080p max settings using max textures if it had more than 8GB VRAM! Why are you talking about what most people do or not? Most people are normies who doom scroll social media on their 1000 usd phones!
These creators are trying to raise awareness and what it seems to me is that people don't want to be made aware of and are okay to stick with the 'BRAND NEW' 380 USD 8GB slop from Nvidia!?
Vb_33@reddit
It shows that this is a big problem for enthusiasts and a nothing burger to Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox playing normies.
hsien88@reddit
5060 is also capable of 8k if it has enough cuda cores, what’s your point? Also it’s a $299 card, no need to constantly lying and says it’s $380.
dern_the_hermit@reddit
Yeah but adding more VRAM is a far more accessible option than adding more cores. You can tell by the fact that some of the cards, y'know, have more VRAM.
mockingbird-@reddit
The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti is $379 MSRP and selling well above that.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Maybe it shows that average people at those price points dont actually buy/play a lot of aaa games. Maybe youtubers should expand their games selections.
DroidLife97@reddit
You sound exactly like Frank Azhor of AMD who recently justified AMD's stance on 8GB RX 9060XT model.
"Most gamers don't need more than 8GB VRAM" because they play eSports games (which can be run on my ROG ALLY iGPU).
Average people game at 1080p in 2025 (not even 1080p more like 720p due to upscaling), not because they don't care but because that's all they can afford to do with the GPU stagnation in the mid to low end.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Its not just PC games, even gamers on ps5/xbox gravitate towards mainstream/light games over aaa, even if consoles dont run into vram. Moreover most people will likely not run rt as shown by mark cerny 70% of ps5 users prefer 60fps over 30fps. RT hampers fps so people are not using it. The same situation will be on pc as well.
skinlo@reddit
Do you know that?
abbzug@reddit
That has no bearing on the quality of the hardware offered.
TheHodgePodge@reddit
They don't have to. Even competitive games will keep getting more demanding and even unoptimized.
only_r3ad_the_titl3@reddit
"mate the 5060 and 5060Ti are capable of 1080p max settings using max textures if it had more than 8GB VRAM!"
the video literally does not show this. 5060:
Monster hunt world medium 1080p: 60 fps
Spiderman 2: 94 fps
obilvion 1080p medium: 79 fps
clair obscur 1080p medium: 73 fps
ragnanorok@reddit
these are perfectly fine frame rates that could be achieved with max textures if these graphics cards had more VRAM?
teutorix_aleria@reddit
Umm actually according to steam hardware survey most people dont have eyesight good enough to distinguish high quality textures.
So sick of this line of argument. Games struggling at the lowest common resolution due to vram limitations is not good theres no way to spin that. This isn't crysis where the game was ambitious beyond its time, its multiple games and growing by the day.
iDontSeedMyTorrents@reddit
BuT ThE sTeAm SurVeY
The meta here will simultaneously cry about middling performance improvements gen over gen only to turn around and vehemently defend handicapping otherwise capable cards.
reddit_equals_censor@reddit
excellent video.
amazing graphs at the end showing in a graph in one look how many of the games are broken due to missing vram.
7/8 games at 1080p max settings being broken with 8 GB vram.
that is how it is rightnow and it is only gonna get worse.
TaintedSquirrel@reddit
So many youtubers are going to be out of a job if Nvidia ever releases a series with adequate VRAM. My lord.
_I_AM_A_STRANGE_LOOP@reddit
This video is a really in depth exemination of how and why 8g cards degrade in performance - it’s really hard to measure a lot of this stuff in a vacuum, and the 5060Ti 8/16g yardstick is extremely illuminating here. I agree it’s a bit overdone but I wouldn’t throw such a detailed and well-thought out testing away just because it’s in the same general lane as other outrage stuff. If I could only show people one video on 8gb in 2025 it might well be this one!
TaintedSquirrel@reddit
He's made this exact video multiple times in the past for the 4060, 4060 Ti, and 5060 Ti. He's also done multiple retests using those cards in different game suites. But I think this is his largest suite yet (60 games) which counts for something, but the conclusion is the same.
Probably half of his content is complaining about VRAM. It's the only reason I even know who this guy is, hence my original comment.
_I_AM_A_STRANGE_LOOP@reddit
I just don’t know how you cover the bottom of the Nvidia stack (a wildly popular set of GPUs) without talking about lotttt about 8GB. I also am not sure that’s a fair characterization, I’ve watched daniel for a while and his videos cover range of topics – this is just a particularly relevant one right now! The other aspects of the card take a backseat when even at 1080p playability and user experience are so frequently negatively impacted, and regular testing does a bad job of showing exactly how and when that happens in practice
beerm0nkey@reddit
The hate is not warranted.
beerm0nkey@reddit
He compares high end cards to other high end cards constantly both in generation and cross generation. He makes good content that is useful and he’s a consumer advocate.
GloriousCause@reddit
Maybe if they'd stop releasing 8GB cards he could stop having to focus on that issue when he reviews them. Also, he makes hundreds of videos per year. Only a few are about VRAM (usually when reviewing 8GB cards) so it sounds like your experience with the channel is not representative.
GloriousCause@reddit
And yet in this very video there are a bunch of comments defending 8GB by saying "nobody buying these cards plays new AAA games" or "these cards aren't meant for ultra settings" or "nobody buying these cards can afford these games anyway".