People spend more money than they actually have -> business do good and feel the public likes their products and are willing to spend a lot on them -> they increase the prices to maximize profits.
Until the bubble bursts because either the people can't pay the loans anymore/can't take new ones because they have already multiple.
Not OP but sellers often gauge the buyers willingness to spend when setting their price. With the increasing ease in obtaining credits of all sorts (from credit cards to BNPL), buyers are willing to (often irresponsibly) spend more, and sellers are able to sell at a higher price.
The above information is near independent of the “normal increase of salary due to inflation.”
I don’t have any evidence on hand, just my two cents.
OMG I'm so glad we don't live in China where they have a credit score attached to each person and if it's low you won't have the same opportunities as every one else! Can you imagine how dystopian that would be????
You don't get a 600 credit score without fucking up somehow. Mine is 784 and I paid off my student loans early. All I do is pay for everything on a credit card and pay the balance off in full every week. I don't even own any assets.
Interest is irrelevant, the score is just a measure of how reliable a borrower you are. If you have credit cards you get to borrow money at 0% if you make on time payments, but you're still borrowing money so it goes up.
Anon is probably not borrowing any money right now, so the score goes down because you can't be a reliable debtor if you're not a debtor at all.
I've never paid a cent of interest, I bought my car outright and I don't own a house, always have paid cards on time, and my score is 760.
Sorry for not being american, but couldnt you just get a credit card and make all your purchases on credit then transfer money from another account to pay the debt every month and farm credit score? It seems stupid to have to shuffle money around like that
There’s no way a single inquiry dropped you 30 points. If you had looked at several loans in the inquiry, they are each calculated as their own hard inquiry, and many hard inquiries can hit you pretty bad because it’s seen as “financial instability” if you’re needing to look at a bunch of loans to get a positive result. Do I agree with it? Nope. It’s literally built to kick you while you’re down, but unfortunately I don’t control that system.
It was only one loan, but did they try to find the loan through multiple sources before finding one? Each one of those checks with a credit company is a “hard inquiry” on its own, which would be why you’re getting hit that hard. For example, I recently just financed a truck and we went to 3 different credit companies to ask about a loan. Each one of those 3 was its own “hard inquiry” despite the fact that I only actually received a loan from one of them.
If you have credit cards you get to borrow money at 0% if you make on time payments, but you're still borrowing money so it goes up.
Literally my situation. I got my first credit card from my bank that has 0.00% interest if the monthly bill is paid in full. So I put some bills I already have the money for each month on the CC and then pay it off later in the month. My score went from the mid-600s to about 715 in like 6 months. And they just doubled my line of credit last month
I got my first credit card from my bank that has 0.00% interest if the monthly bill is paid in full.
That's how every credit card works, tbf. Nobody would use them if you had to pay interest that accumulated before you had a chance to pay off the loan. Well nobody smart anyway.
Getting from 715 to 760 is probably just a matter of time, and maybe opening a couple more credit cards to get more credit. Getting above 760 requires buying a house and paying the mortgage on that, I don't think you're going to get much above 760 with just credit card payments. But also you don't really need to get above 760, by that point you're still in the lowest interest rate bracket.
I have a score of 802 with one credit card limited at 4k$. I don't have a mortgage. I bought a used car with cash. A few time I got overdraft fees (few cents) because I keep very little money in my checking account and forgot I had an upcoming membership payment, just transferred an extra 100$ from savings to checking account.
I have not idea how they calculate that shit, but you don't need a mortgage to have 760+
Pay your monthly statements when they post, not early. Keep your usage rate low. The only interest I've ever paid was on my car loan (~3%, so basically nonexistent) and my score is in the low 800s.
That doesn’t provide enough data to show you consistently pay your debts. The best way to build credit is to use it for a long time consistently. Make all your daily purchases on credit and pay off the entire statement every month. Do this for 10 years and you’ll be broaching 800.
If that loan is the only loan you have, then you are correct.
But that's why credit cards exist. They allow you as a consumer to take out interest free loans as you go about your daily life, without needing any special effort. You then repay these loans each month, and your credit score goes up, without ever needing to pay a cent of interest.
It never makes sense to intentionally delay payments on a loan that does have interest for the sake of your credit score. Your score might dip a bit temporarily, but it'll recover if you just behave normally.
They basically wanna force you to take out loans, because statistically it’s gonna be a profitable amount of those people who don’t pay it back by the end of the month.
It’s not for your benefit, it’s to trap as many people into high interest loans as possible.
And have people like you act as free advertisement by saying just pay it off for an interest free loan, cash back, etc.
You don’t need an interest free loan, you only really need it for emergencies. They want you to keep balancing on the line until you eventually fall.
If you don't want to take out a loan, then why do you care that credit scores exist? They can't hurt you if you don't take out a loan, that's the only time they come up.
And no, you're not supposed to take out loans for emergencies. Literally the reason credit scores exist is to guess when people are taking out a loan they can probably pay back, and when people are taking out a loan because they desperately need more money for something, and then the latter group get rejected or charged very high interest.
You're supposed to take out a loan when you don't have the capital to buy something up front, like a house or a car, but want to buy it anyway. Loans let you live a nicer life than you otherwise would be able to afford.
People not being able to manage their credit cards is a different issue, but its not one that banks enjoy, they don't make money if you default and they have to sell the debt to collections for pennies on the dollar. They'd much prefer everyone pay all of their bills on time.
Why are u getting downvoted when u are making sense then I realise its greentext where everyone here is already retarded and their financial literacy is non existant
That means no more consistent payments, so no more cash flow for the finance company. Probably saved some money on interest too, practically stealing out of the CEOs mouth
I've literally never paid interest, pay my credit card in full every month, 780+ credit score. You don't need to pay interest to get a high credit score
If OP has 609 score they probably did something wrong.
this credit score is out of 710 so a 780 is impossible.
Some of the factors that go into it are a bit retarded. For mine with TransUnion it flags one "critical" issue which is that I've lived at my current address for less than 18 months. It also wants me to triple my credit limit but only flags this as an "important" issue.
I had a perfect score with Experian and yet only a 630 with TransUnion.
I don't think so man, the french government wouldn't do that for a petrol power car. They only help out (a bit) the very poor in cities where older cars are getting banned. I was a student at the time so that's probably it
It only exists as a marketing gimmick, no one uses their magic score number for any decisions, they look at the credit report instead. In US the magic number actually means stuff
Google AI is the worst thing to happen to information. Yea you can scroll past it but it just floods the results page with bad info. It's fucking dumb.
“Your ability to pay it off” isn’t entirely correct, only partially. It’s about your ability to be consistent in the manner that you pay it off. If you pay it off with inconsistent payment amounts, even if the payments are more than your minimum amount, it will be seen as a negative.
If someone somehow doesn't get wtf this is supposed to mean, I think its supposed to be that the global on the left is hearing contradicting opinions from two people that have similar views but otherwise cant work together, and because their opinions are amplified it has the look of a group that fundamentally cannot agree or is stupid.
Its why people will see one leftist saying something stupid and then dipshits react like "the left" is supposed to br one massive, centralised group and that this is undeniable proof they're bad.
Yeah, the less lines of credit you have the worse your credit score. Your lines of credit also need to be active for a long time.
Paying off a loan, not using credit, or closing a credit card negatively affects your credit score.
Most ideally, you have many credit cards opened with high credit limits and you use each card at least once a month and pay them off on time. Even if you don't need credit for any reason.
I'm ESL too. Fun fact, in-law is someone who is your relative (family) only by law (such as after a marriage, your wife's mom becomes your mother in law).
The system measures how reliable someone is at borrowing money. The higher to score the more you can borrow this includes loans like mortgages. You need to constantly use your credit card to build up a score. However, you need to make sure you don’t utilize more than 30% of your total credit limit and you need to make sure you’re paying the minimum amount due to avoid building up interest and debt. The best way to build up your credit score is to use your credit card like a debit card and never spend more than you have. It’s a messed up system.
Sounds like it. So if I just don’t use credit, I won’t get a loan. But I have to keep track of my credit card because overusing it will also make it harder. What a headache.
It’s honestly not that hard and you can easily setup reminders when to pay your accounts. Also, when used responsibly, CC cards come with benefits you wouldn’t get if you paid with debit (immensely better security & fraud prevention, points/cashback, and perks).
Because (other than paying for gas), virtually all merchants under the sun eat the additional transactions fees from AMEX/Discover/Visa/etc, its literally free money and perks so long as you pay your statement before the end of the month.
You don't pay interest if you pay it when it is billed. It's like 45-60 days or something before interest comes into the picture (idk the exact timeline it could be shorter).
Basically if you use it like a debit card, where you only spend money you have, and pay it back on pay day, you're all good. It's free money. The trick is it gets you into the habit of spending and maybe over estimating your balances and getting you to over spend. Making you have to split up payments and then pay interest.
The bank lends you money, you pay the bank, no interest.
The stores eat like 1-3% of the transaction, small businesses 5%. Because not having it as an option is worse than having to eat the cost of transactions. It's the cost of business for them.
They make money from the 1-3%. And there are annual fees to credit cards, which are not an issue if you meet the spending requirements. And like I said, the system is built so you eventually end up paying interest. But you don't have to.
Still sounds like a headache but free money does sound good though. Is it like buying stuff at a discount or do I have to like ask for it via a form or something?
You get points back. Once you accumulate points you can cash it in to buy stuff. Some cards let you spend points at stores. Some cards have their own store where you can buy anything from TVs to flight tickets.
Even some debit cards have points but it's an insignificant rate of accumulation. CCs rate depends on the tier of card you have.
Interesting. Where I live, you get like a 1-5% cashback at the end of each year, but unless you technically only use your credit card, it barely covers expenses. The only other upside is if you are a small business or tradesman for example, you can use it as a source of flexible small loans where you buy the stuff you need for a job (like raw materials) and pay it once you have been paid so your financial boundaries are less tight, but that’s all.
Nope, I have my cards set to pay off the balance that incurs no interest every single month. I've gotten over $1000 in credit card rewards with just one of the cards. The person who actually ends up paying is the business because the credit card company charges a transaction fee to give you that free money.
So in reality you are essentially getting money you spent back, however most places charge you the same price for debit and credit so you are just missing out on money by not using credit
So it's like, someone goes grocery shopping once a month with a credit card, never touch it for anything else and repay it immediatly, the credit score goes up and that tells the bank that this person qualifies for a loan or mortgage? Am I missing something?
good boy points that banks use to evaluate your worth as a person; it’s based mainly on payment history and racial composition of your neighborhood
Other kinds of insurance companies use similar secret numbers that no one knows about, car insurance companies for example use tiny microchips embedded under the eyelids to track alertness while you drive and adjust insurance rates accordingly.
Doesn't mention credit card utilization. That's a big thing. Then your credit only actually updates when statements are turned in, car payment might not be recognized yet. Overdraft doesn't mean anything so idk how that's relevant
The credit score is down because you technically closed a line of credit. Give it a couple of days and it’ll go back up again once they resolve that.
Generally, closing a line of credit will temporarily bring your score down until credit bureaus figure out why it closed before restoring it or even increasing it. As it stands, the bureaus don’t know if the line of credit closed because you successfully payed off a loan (a good thing) or because you decided you don’t want a credit card anymore (a bad thing) so they assume it’s the bad thing and then determine if it’s good later.
We don't really, companies have found that "Check out your credit score!" is a good ad tag-line so they're copying the Americans. Credit checks are much more nuanced than any score
The way it was once explained to me made more sense, despite me not agreeing with it. Credit score isn’t about checking whether or not you can pay for something, it’s about checking consistency, because consistency is what the entire credit system is built around. So if you pay 100 dollars here, 1000 dollars there, 500 after that, even if you pay off your loan early doing this your payments will be seen as inconsistent. This can make you out to be considered potentially financially untrustworthy by the people who operate credit systems due to the fact that the inconsistency of your payments could mean that in the future you’ll continue to be inconsistent, but potentially in a negative way.
Do I agree with it? Not at all, because at its core it’s designed to exploit interest, but it be what it be.
Credit score shit like this takes your home address and the surrounding area, age, profession, etc. all into account. It's maddening. If your neighbors are statistically less likely to pay off debts (i.e you live in a poor community) your credit score will go down aswell.
Being good with your finances won't necessarily make your credit score go up. You need to take out loans and pay it on time. That's the whole point of a credit score, to show that you're credit worthy.
What's really bad is when your medical bill is a couple thousand, and it just wrecks your credit score pre-credit card to where you're just locked in at the 400's/500's.
It's also dependant on how much you use credit in general.
For 1 year - take a CC from your own bank, use it for literally everything planned. And don't miss payments. You should get 800+ easily. You also need to be well off here, can't do this on a hand to mouth existence.
Can someone explain Credit Score to me? How does one increase it or decrease it? Why should one care about one's credit score? Sorry if it's a stupid question but I'm from Europe
So in the past, if the bank wanted to decide if they should loan someone money, they'd make you apply for a loan. Then they'd hire a guy to go out and talk with the applicant, and he'd decide whether or not the applicant seemed good for the loan. The applicant would provide things like proof of income, so it wasn't entirely a vibes based decision, but it was heavily influenced by vibes.
Everyone decided that this was a bad way to do things, since it was heavily susceptible to racism/sexism, and was also just super arbitrary. So they got together and came up with an algorithm. You plug in someone's credit history and income, and it spits out a number that tells you how reliable they are, and they get rejected/approved for loans based on this number
Generally people take out loans for houses/cars, so if you want to get a good interest rate, or be approved at all, you need a good credit score. You can also use credit cards in daily life, these help build your credit score but also give you a 1-5% discount on purchases, depending on the details of the card. You get better credit cards with a higher credit score.
Increasing it is done by having more available credit, and by paying loans on time. Age of your oldest line of credit is also important, and it goes down temporarily if you open too many new accounts in a row.
Ok that makes sense, but why does it decrease when you pay off a loan early? Doesn't that mean you're extra trustworthy, since you gave the money back to the bank even sooner than they expected?
The bank doesn't care if you pay extra or the regular amount, they just care that you aren't late.
The reason paying off a loan, early or otherwise, decreases your credit score is because it decreases the amount of lines of credit you have. You used to have a loan for a million dollars that you were paying off on time, that made you look pretty good.
Now you have a credit card with a max of $1,000 and you're already utilizing half of that. Maybe in the past you were reliable, but now you look very questionable.
The solution to this is to have credit cards that will allow you to maintain your reputation of being reliable even when you do not have a need for a loan.
Have 0 debt, its stupid as fuck though. Why should my credit score drop because I paid off 60k worth of debt over 10 years? I'm perfect. I paid like double the student loans on interest. I'm just gonna not care about it. I'm never going into debt again.
Actually you're not perfect for loan companies. You're the worst customer for loan companies. Them making the money back they paid on you means you're a net neutral for them at best. The financially struggling who only barely manage to make the minimum payment? They're the perfect customer, because they're essentially eternally giving them free money in the form of interest, and a lot of the time, that interest over time become FAR more than the initial borrowing
because you need to use a “credit” card to continuously maintain or build credit. Are you using a debit card all the time? You need to keep borrowing and paying off credit to build a credit score.
I know it sounds dumb. But you need to “prove” it to the credit card companies which in turn will build your credit score. They cant see your chequing balance.
If you were leafing through resumes and saw John Credit with no activity listed for a stretch of 3 years... Even if he had a high paying job beforehand it's at least a red flag.
But that's in the past. If you spent a year not being in debt, and not needing any debt, then they'll assume that your normal condition is not having any debt.
So if you suddenly ask for a loan, it looks like you are running out of money, which means there's a higher risk of you defaulting, which means you pay a higher interest rate.
If you had a credit card, and kept paying that off each month, the banks would see that you have credit available which you are not using, and that is a positive sign which shows them you can be trusted with more money
That’s the problem. It doesn't just sound dumb, it is dumb. Someone who already repaid a loan and has good money should be just as trustworthy as someone who gets suckered into the credit card system.
Precisely because you don't typically need credit. So if you were financially stable, you probably wouldn't need to ask for a loan at all. The fact that you are just now needing to ask for a loan after years of not needing one suggests that you are not doing well financially and may be a higher risk.
If I have $20,000 worth of credit, and I pay that off fully each month, and I ask for someone else to increase that up to $25,000, that's a pretty small risk for the new lender. If I was really in trouble I'd probably have maxed out that $20,000 line of credit I already have, and I've shown I'm good with borrowed money, so they will probably trust me.
If you go up to them asking for a $25,000 loan out of the gate, they have less reason to believe you'll pay it back, so they'll charge you a higher interest rate to offset the risk of you defaulting.
Anon needs to log into Jewquifax and freeze his credit. Then he needs to make an account in JudeUnion and do the same. He also needs to take care of Goyxperian.
It's going down because he isn't being a good borrower at the moment, as he isn't a borrower at all. Anon needs to get a credit card and use it regularly, paying it off straight away on payday.
I still find it amazing that US people believe that China has that Orwellian social score thing when they have the very real credit score that does pretty much the same
Credit scores don’t stop you from doing anything. You may get denied from loans from one place or another but there’s always somewhere else you can get a loan from. China's social credit actually restricts their freedoms.
The Lloyds app credit score is a bit useless anyway, it’s just collating info and making up a score. I found if I just go straight to the agency the score is miles better. Lloyds just want you to check on their app so they can push their credit on to you.
Mine tanked 86 points because I moved house and updated it on the electoral roll. Then it tells me I need to improve my score by being registered to vote at an address for 18 months. Stupid system
It's not a measure of how dependable you are, it's a measure of how exploitable you are. People with high credit scores are likely to borrow AND repay the debt. But you have to be willing to borrow first.
It exists so that companies can look at you and deem you fit to go into more debt with them being "eligible" for bigger loans, which you'll never pay off because even if you can your score goes down and oh no what if you're in a situation where you HAVE to have a big loan? You wouldn't want that, would you? Better to just be stuck as a good little debt slave.
Credit score does not matter in the UK. All you need is credit history for mortgages, it's just a scam to try and get you involved with credit cards, it's American nonsense coming here through osmosis.
I never miss a mortgage payment, bought my car outright, no loans except like 4.5k in student loans.
Score was sitting at 657 for years.
Sign up for the harbor freight card, which gave me a hefty discount on my toolbox, and it was declined. It showed up in the mail 3 weeks later approved, so I missed my shot at a $300 discount; however, my credit score shot up to 760 without making any purchase or loans. Fucking bonkers how this system works.
if you owe more than 1/3 the limit on your credit card, it takes a hit. Even if you do the “minimum payments”. Just set up autopay for your cards and keep them as close to 0 as possible at all times. Paying off huge loans will boost your score a lot too. I did a large deposit to pay off my car and it went up like 50 points in 1 month.
cujoe88@reddit
Easy Consumer Credit is a big part of why prices increase faster than salaries.
daKuledud3@reddit
Elaborate
imnota_@reddit
People spend more money than they actually have -> business do good and feel the public likes their products and are willing to spend a lot on them -> they increase the prices to maximize profits.
Until the bubble bursts because either the people can't pay the loans anymore/can't take new ones because they have already multiple.
91143151512@reddit
Not OP but sellers often gauge the buyers willingness to spend when setting their price. With the increasing ease in obtaining credits of all sorts (from credit cards to BNPL), buyers are willing to (often irresponsibly) spend more, and sellers are able to sell at a higher price.
The above information is near independent of the “normal increase of salary due to inflation.”
I don’t have any evidence on hand, just my two cents.
BeholdOurMachines@reddit
OMG I'm so glad we don't live in China where they have a credit score attached to each person and if it's low you won't have the same opportunities as every one else! Can you imagine how dystopian that would be????
retroUkrSoldier@reddit
You should send money to israel, perhaps that will raise your goyimscore
RadioRoosterTony@reddit
"Never gone into overdraft" - I don't think that counts. I don't think banks report overdrafts to credit agencies.
brathorim@reddit
It’s because you paid off your loan early. They want you paying interest
Ao_Kiseki@reddit
You don't get a 600 credit score without fucking up somehow. Mine is 784 and I paid off my student loans early. All I do is pay for everything on a credit card and pay the balance off in full every week. I don't even own any assets.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
Interest is irrelevant, the score is just a measure of how reliable a borrower you are. If you have credit cards you get to borrow money at 0% if you make on time payments, but you're still borrowing money so it goes up.
Anon is probably not borrowing any money right now, so the score goes down because you can't be a reliable debtor if you're not a debtor at all.
I've never paid a cent of interest, I bought my car outright and I don't own a house, always have paid cards on time, and my score is 760.
Sams200@reddit
Sorry for not being american, but couldnt you just get a credit card and make all your purchases on credit then transfer money from another account to pay the debt every month and farm credit score? It seems stupid to have to shuffle money around like that
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
Am I missing something or are you just describing using a credit card normally?
And all of the credit cards and bank accounts have autopay options you can set up, so you don't actually shuffle any money around by yourself
glasser999@reddit
Why do they punish you so hard for looking at loans though
Im buying a house, and just the inquiry took me from like 780 to 750
Dogshit
Prism_Riot42@reddit
There’s no way a single inquiry dropped you 30 points. If you had looked at several loans in the inquiry, they are each calculated as their own hard inquiry, and many hard inquiries can hit you pretty bad because it’s seen as “financial instability” if you’re needing to look at a bunch of loans to get a positive result. Do I agree with it? Nope. It’s literally built to kick you while you’re down, but unfortunately I don’t control that system.
glasser999@reddit
Only one loan!
Prism_Riot42@reddit
It was only one loan, but did they try to find the loan through multiple sources before finding one? Each one of those checks with a credit company is a “hard inquiry” on its own, which would be why you’re getting hit that hard. For example, I recently just financed a truck and we went to 3 different credit companies to ask about a loan. Each one of those 3 was its own “hard inquiry” despite the fact that I only actually received a loan from one of them.
brathorim@reddit
Car loans include interest automatically. Look up amortization tables.
Lolovitz@reddit
Amortization isnt interest. You can have principal repayment schedule on a 0% interest loan
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
Yes, but that interest has absolutely nothing to do with anon's credit score
Ihrn-Sedai@reddit
They said they bought it outright so no loan
brathorim@reddit
I’m referring to the main post
MrSpanky1193@reddit
Literally my situation. I got my first credit card from my bank that has 0.00% interest if the monthly bill is paid in full. So I put some bills I already have the money for each month on the CC and then pay it off later in the month. My score went from the mid-600s to about 715 in like 6 months. And they just doubled my line of credit last month
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
That's how every credit card works, tbf. Nobody would use them if you had to pay interest that accumulated before you had a chance to pay off the loan. Well nobody smart anyway.
Getting from 715 to 760 is probably just a matter of time, and maybe opening a couple more credit cards to get more credit. Getting above 760 requires buying a house and paying the mortgage on that, I don't think you're going to get much above 760 with just credit card payments. But also you don't really need to get above 760, by that point you're still in the lowest interest rate bracket.
LuigiBamba@reddit
I have a score of 802 with one credit card limited at 4k$. I don't have a mortgage. I bought a used car with cash. A few time I got overdraft fees (few cents) because I keep very little money in my checking account and forgot I had an upcoming membership payment, just transferred an extra 100$ from savings to checking account.
I have not idea how they calculate that shit, but you don't need a mortgage to have 760+
Sacklecakes@reddit
You’d be surprised. I don’t think it takes a mortgage, just a sufficiently high credit limit across all credit cards and low utilization.
Regardless, it’s purposely opaque.
Icy_Magician_9372@reddit
Ya same my score is around that number too. All I use is my credit card and I simply pay it off entirely every month.
idk_YouTookAllNames@reddit
Ah yes, can't wait to be punished for not... being broke enough?
Coronalol@reddit
You aren’t paying interest on payments towards the end of a loan anyways. After a certain point payments are all principal.
knifuser@reddit
Never pay off debts early, instead just pay most of it off early and keep doing lower payments until it's done.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
This is horrible advice, you never want to keep a high interest loan around, no matter what the principal is.
If you can't earn more interest by investing the money elsewhere, you should pay back loans as quickly as possible.
Use your credit card to build your credit score, those loans are interest free if you pay them on time
knifuser@reddit
If you pay them off earlier than expected your credit score will go down
Gary_FucKing@reddit
Pay your monthly statements when they post, not early. Keep your usage rate low. The only interest I've ever paid was on my car loan (~3%, so basically nonexistent) and my score is in the low 800s.
dragonandante@reddit
How dare this person be financially responsible.
smokeymcdugen@reddit
Best thing to do is to get interest free loans and setup autopay.
OneInternational984@reddit
They look through all of your posts on pol when deciding it.
Armless_Dan@reddit
It’s a scam to make sure you get more stuff on credit and pay more in interest.
Retronus@reddit
This is the correct take about credit scores.
username9909864@reddit
Interest isn’t calculated, just the ability to make consistent payments
Dreadnought_69@reddit
Yeah, but he paid off his loan early.
youtocin@reddit
That doesn’t provide enough data to show you consistently pay your debts. The best way to build credit is to use it for a long time consistently. Make all your daily purchases on credit and pay off the entire statement every month. Do this for 10 years and you’ll be broaching 800.
Dreadnought_69@reddit
That’s my point, paying off a loan early is not a good thing for the credit score.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
If that loan is the only loan you have, then you are correct.
But that's why credit cards exist. They allow you as a consumer to take out interest free loans as you go about your daily life, without needing any special effort. You then repay these loans each month, and your credit score goes up, without ever needing to pay a cent of interest.
It never makes sense to intentionally delay payments on a loan that does have interest for the sake of your credit score. Your score might dip a bit temporarily, but it'll recover if you just behave normally.
Dreadnought_69@reddit
They basically wanna force you to take out loans, because statistically it’s gonna be a profitable amount of those people who don’t pay it back by the end of the month.
It’s not for your benefit, it’s to trap as many people into high interest loans as possible.
And have people like you act as free advertisement by saying just pay it off for an interest free loan, cash back, etc.
You don’t need an interest free loan, you only really need it for emergencies. They want you to keep balancing on the line until you eventually fall.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
If you don't want to take out a loan, then why do you care that credit scores exist? They can't hurt you if you don't take out a loan, that's the only time they come up.
And no, you're not supposed to take out loans for emergencies. Literally the reason credit scores exist is to guess when people are taking out a loan they can probably pay back, and when people are taking out a loan because they desperately need more money for something, and then the latter group get rejected or charged very high interest.
You're supposed to take out a loan when you don't have the capital to buy something up front, like a house or a car, but want to buy it anyway. Loans let you live a nicer life than you otherwise would be able to afford.
People not being able to manage their credit cards is a different issue, but its not one that banks enjoy, they don't make money if you default and they have to sell the debt to collections for pennies on the dollar. They'd much prefer everyone pay all of their bills on time.
usoap141@reddit
Why are u getting downvoted when u are making sense then I realise its greentext where everyone here is already retarded and their financial literacy is non existant
Dreadnought_69@reddit
I’m not gonna dignify your mental gymnastics with a response.
The_Nude_Mocracy@reddit
That means no more consistent payments, so no more cash flow for the finance company. Probably saved some money on interest too, practically stealing out of the CEOs mouth
skilliard7@reddit
I've literally never paid interest, pay my credit card in full every month, 780+ credit score. You don't need to pay interest to get a high credit score
If OP has 609 score they probably did something wrong.
spider__@reddit
this credit score is out of 710 so a 780 is impossible.
Some of the factors that go into it are a bit retarded. For mine with TransUnion it flags one "critical" issue which is that I've lived at my current address for less than 18 months. It also wants me to triple my credit limit but only flags this as an "important" issue.
I had a perfect score with Experian and yet only a 630 with TransUnion.
lucidposeidon@reddit
Either that, or a victim of identity theft.
Mistifyed@reddit
Exactly. Creditors don’t make money off of responsible people.
Aswop05@reddit
Qa
Stopkilling0@reddit
Before I got a mortgage I had never paid a cent in interest and my score was like 800
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
The creditors would much rather make a free ~7% on a loan than have to deal with trying to get money back through collections.
Dreadnought_69@reddit
That’s a statistics question.
The_Squasha@reddit
one has to adore this stage of capitalism
TudorG22@reddit
only in America
oneeeeno@reddit
Canada has the exact same scam too
TudorG22@reddit
unfortunate
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit (OP)
Do you think america is the only country with loans?
TracePoland@reddit
The "credit score" in UK is purely a marketing gimmick, it doesn't influence anything, only thing that matters is the actual credit report.
TudorG22@reddit
one of the only countries with credit score, my first credit ever in France for 5 years was at 2%
the615Butcher@reddit
I see you double downed on your Reddit brain damage. Fucking embarrassing
mitsurugui@reddit
we have credit score in brazil
TudorG22@reddit
unfortunate
Substantial__Papaya@reddit
My first loan in the US was for 30 years at 3.75%
Let me guess, yours was government subsidized just like mine
TudorG22@reddit
nope, just a regular bank loan for my car
Substantial__Papaya@reddit
Mine was a regular bank too. You've got to look into the back end to find the government subsidies
TudorG22@reddit
I don't think so man, the french government wouldn't do that for a petrol power car. They only help out (a bit) the very poor in cities where older cars are getting banned. I was a student at the time so that's probably it
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit (OP)
What did you buy with that?
TudorG22@reddit
a car
Armless_Dan@reddit
Good for you.
Cumpissshitassballs@reddit
The post is from the uk
N4M34RRT@reddit
TransUnion is an American credit reporting company, this is either VPN shenanigans or simply bait
EarthwormBen@reddit
TransUnion exists in the UK and is pretty big
TracePoland@reddit
It only exists as a marketing gimmick, no one uses their magic score number for any decisions, they look at the credit report instead. In US the magic number actually means stuff
N4M34RRT@reddit
oh, i see that now. Egg on my face for taking the google AI answer
Shadarbiter@reddit
Google AI is the worst thing to happen to information. Yea you can scroll past it but it just floods the results page with bad info. It's fucking dumb.
EarthwormBen@reddit
No probs, it happens
Gomehehe@reddit
many such cases
the615Butcher@reddit
Another dummy on full display.
INFERNOdll@reddit
Yeah, that’s america lite
TudorG22@reddit
unfortunate
Plebbitgetsburntdown@reddit
Lovely British credit innit?
WiseBelt8935@reddit
some would say the best credit
the615Butcher@reddit
Fuckin dumbass learn to ~~read~~ comprehend images.
Maverick128@reddit
America scores out of 850
LegitimateUse4584@reddit
Lol it's about your ability to pay it off. I mean I agree the whole concept is kind of fucked. But it's just a scoring system really
Prism_Riot42@reddit
“Your ability to pay it off” isn’t entirely correct, only partially. It’s about your ability to be consistent in the manner that you pay it off. If you pay it off with inconsistent payment amounts, even if the payments are more than your minimum amount, it will be seen as a negative.
Naive_Drive@reddit
That same anon when someone suggests reforming capitalism
GulliblePea3691@reddit
Sorry I’m more into dismantling than reforming
Mesarthim1349@reddit
SilliusS0ddus@reddit
Berkuts_Lance_Plus@reddit
Goomba Fallacy
JhonIWantADivorce@reddit
Mario fallacy
dincosire@reddit
Wth is the “Mario Fallacy”?
SpicySanchezz@reddit
Mario fallacy is a joke term refering the actual „goomba fallacy“ which is this:
Smol-Fren-Boi@reddit
If someone somehow doesn't get wtf this is supposed to mean, I think its supposed to be that the global on the left is hearing contradicting opinions from two people that have similar views but otherwise cant work together, and because their opinions are amplified it has the look of a group that fundamentally cannot agree or is stupid.
Its why people will see one leftist saying something stupid and then dipshits react like "the left" is supposed to br one massive, centralised group and that this is undeniable proof they're bad.
CCCyanide@reddit
This but platform-wide
A and B defenders both talk on Twitter
Twitter spouts a mix of A defense and B defense
-> Twitter users defend both A and B
-> Twitter uses are stupid
-starspider-@reddit
Luigi fallacy
utopicunicornn@reddit
Wario Fallacy
roundelay11@reddit
It's a social experiment enacted in the 80's by the usurer class about how far they can push us.
Never pay attention to it.
colouredcyan@reddit
>No Loans
>No Car
>Never missed a payment on anything
>swimming in cash because cheap hobbies
>Want a Mortgage, literally have 50% Deposit
>Bank says no, credit score bad
>TransUnion says "520 needs work"
>Fuck you I want a second opinion
>Experian says "975 out of 999 good job bro"
>???
Think somethings wrong with TransUnion atm, might be about to go belly up which for a business that just fucking makes up numbers is wild.
SoupaMayo@reddit
Isn't there a system in USA where the more you're inlaw, the less score you have, just as if you were a deadbeat
LaTostadaSalvaje@reddit
British flag
SoupaMayo@reddit
Omg I'm sorry, I'll delete my comment, no way I'm helping a brit
Mesarthim1349@reddit
Good lad
Themis3000@reddit
Yeah, the less lines of credit you have the worse your credit score. Your lines of credit also need to be active for a long time.
Paying off a loan, not using credit, or closing a credit card negatively affects your credit score.
Most ideally, you have many credit cards opened with high credit limits and you use each card at least once a month and pay them off on time. Even if you don't need credit for any reason.
TudorG22@reddit
inlaw?
SoupaMayo@reddit
I'm ESL, I roughly translated but what I meant is when you're doing it right by the rules
TudorG22@reddit
I'm ESL too. Fun fact, in-law is someone who is your relative (family) only by law (such as after a marriage, your wife's mom becomes your mother in law).
SoupaMayo@reddit
Crap I knew it was something else, thanks for correcting me pal
Biru91@reddit
Silly anon, you are supposed to stay in debt forever and always keep paying, rookie mistake
Th0rizmund@reddit
Can somebody explain this system to me?
yeeeyeeetus@reddit
The system measures how reliable someone is at borrowing money. The higher to score the more you can borrow this includes loans like mortgages. You need to constantly use your credit card to build up a score. However, you need to make sure you don’t utilize more than 30% of your total credit limit and you need to make sure you’re paying the minimum amount due to avoid building up interest and debt. The best way to build up your credit score is to use your credit card like a debit card and never spend more than you have. It’s a messed up system.
Th0rizmund@reddit
Sounds like it. So if I just don’t use credit, I won’t get a loan. But I have to keep track of my credit card because overusing it will also make it harder. What a headache.
bell37@reddit
It’s honestly not that hard and you can easily setup reminders when to pay your accounts. Also, when used responsibly, CC cards come with benefits you wouldn’t get if you paid with debit (immensely better security & fraud prevention, points/cashback, and perks).
Because (other than paying for gas), virtually all merchants under the sun eat the additional transactions fees from AMEX/Discover/Visa/etc, its literally free money and perks so long as you pay your statement before the end of the month.
Th0rizmund@reddit
Free money? You need to pay interests, don’t you?
Mythun4523@reddit
You don't pay interest if you pay it when it is billed. It's like 45-60 days or something before interest comes into the picture (idk the exact timeline it could be shorter).
Basically if you use it like a debit card, where you only spend money you have, and pay it back on pay day, you're all good. It's free money. The trick is it gets you into the habit of spending and maybe over estimating your balances and getting you to over spend. Making you have to split up payments and then pay interest.
Th0rizmund@reddit
But then who pays the creditor? The stores who eat the transaction fees as the other commenter mentions?
Mythun4523@reddit
The bank lends you money, you pay the bank, no interest.
The stores eat like 1-3% of the transaction, small businesses 5%. Because not having it as an option is worse than having to eat the cost of transactions. It's the cost of business for them.
Th0rizmund@reddit
That doesn’t make sense to me. Banks lend you money so they get interest. If you don’t pay interest, then you are not a good person to give money to?
Mythun4523@reddit
They make money from the 1-3%. And there are annual fees to credit cards, which are not an issue if you meet the spending requirements. And like I said, the system is built so you eventually end up paying interest. But you don't have to.
Th0rizmund@reddit
Still sounds like a headache but free money does sound good though. Is it like buying stuff at a discount or do I have to like ask for it via a form or something?
Mythun4523@reddit
You get points back. Once you accumulate points you can cash it in to buy stuff. Some cards let you spend points at stores. Some cards have their own store where you can buy anything from TVs to flight tickets.
Even some debit cards have points but it's an insignificant rate of accumulation. CCs rate depends on the tier of card you have.
Th0rizmund@reddit
Interesting. Where I live, you get like a 1-5% cashback at the end of each year, but unless you technically only use your credit card, it barely covers expenses. The only other upside is if you are a small business or tradesman for example, you can use it as a source of flexible small loans where you buy the stuff you need for a job (like raw materials) and pay it once you have been paid so your financial boundaries are less tight, but that’s all.
fiftyfourseventeen@reddit
Nope, I have my cards set to pay off the balance that incurs no interest every single month. I've gotten over $1000 in credit card rewards with just one of the cards. The person who actually ends up paying is the business because the credit card company charges a transaction fee to give you that free money.
So in reality you are essentially getting money you spent back, however most places charge you the same price for debit and credit so you are just missing out on money by not using credit
Nay-the-Cliff@reddit
So it's like, someone goes grocery shopping once a month with a credit card, never touch it for anything else and repay it immediatly, the credit score goes up and that tells the bank that this person qualifies for a loan or mortgage? Am I missing something?
tyschooldropout@reddit
Yes, that works, yes it's stupid.
You get a baby's first credit card with a stupidly small maximum, fill your car up with it once a month, and pay it off every time.
Your score goes up and when you (unfortunately) actually need credit, you have it.
yeeeyeeetus@reddit
Yea you can build credit that way, I pay it off within the week I bought something
JhonIWantADivorce@reddit
good boy points that banks use to evaluate your worth as a person; it’s based mainly on payment history and racial composition of your neighborhood
Other kinds of insurance companies use similar secret numbers that no one knows about, car insurance companies for example use tiny microchips embedded under the eyelids to track alertness while you drive and adjust insurance rates accordingly.
toxicgloo@reddit
Doesn't mention credit card utilization. That's a big thing. Then your credit only actually updates when statements are turned in, car payment might not be recognized yet. Overdraft doesn't mean anything so idk how that's relevant
mrlunes@reddit
Only way to raise your credit score is to be in debt. Dumbest system ever.
V-Lenin@reddit
Credit score is a score of how profitable you are for loans
mrstorydude@reddit
The credit score is down because you technically closed a line of credit. Give it a couple of days and it’ll go back up again once they resolve that.
Generally, closing a line of credit will temporarily bring your score down until credit bureaus figure out why it closed before restoring it or even increasing it. As it stands, the bureaus don’t know if the line of credit closed because you successfully payed off a loan (a good thing) or because you decided you don’t want a credit card anymore (a bad thing) so they assume it’s the bad thing and then determine if it’s good later.
Cursed_Sun_Stardust@reddit
Closed account stay in your report and continue to age for 10 years. Maybe the op is looking at his vantage score and not FICO
pylorih@reddit
That Chinese social score you’re scared about?
You’re staring at the American version.
zqmbgn@reddit
why do you USA pals accept such bullshit?
dotheeroar@reddit
The post is from the uk buddy
SaltOk3057@reddit
The only way to get it high is by borrowing more bucks you fucking idiot
sleazy_hobo@reddit
huh didn't think the UK would have a credit score system since we don't have one in Ireland and we tend to copy a lot of the systems the UK uses.
dlcb123@reddit
We don't really, companies have found that "Check out your credit score!" is a good ad tag-line so they're copying the Americans. Credit checks are much more nuanced than any score
Prism_Riot42@reddit
The way it was once explained to me made more sense, despite me not agreeing with it. Credit score isn’t about checking whether or not you can pay for something, it’s about checking consistency, because consistency is what the entire credit system is built around. So if you pay 100 dollars here, 1000 dollars there, 500 after that, even if you pay off your loan early doing this your payments will be seen as inconsistent. This can make you out to be considered potentially financially untrustworthy by the people who operate credit systems due to the fact that the inconsistency of your payments could mean that in the future you’ll continue to be inconsistent, but potentially in a negative way. Do I agree with it? Not at all, because at its core it’s designed to exploit interest, but it be what it be.
DeathByToilet@reddit
The numbers dont mean anything honestly its your credit history that matters.
For example : Experian shows me at 973 out of 990. Clearscore shows me at 506 out of 1000 Credit Karma has me at 602 out of 710.
Its all just numbers and all of them say "make sure you get more credit cards!!!"
Any loan i scroll across shows pre approved and then yesterday i just auto increased my credit in seconds.
Its designed as a scam for you to get have more and more debt risks.
Antonireykern@reddit
Credit score shit like this takes your home address and the surrounding area, age, profession, etc. all into account. It's maddening. If your neighbors are statistically less likely to pay off debts (i.e you live in a poor community) your credit score will go down aswell.
mustafa_i_am@reddit
Being good with your finances won't necessarily make your credit score go up. You need to take out loans and pay it on time. That's the whole point of a credit score, to show that you're credit worthy.
GumCuzzler21@reddit
109
SummerOftime@reddit
More like 1000
DoctorFaygo@reddit
What's really bad is when your medical bill is a couple thousand, and it just wrecks your credit score pre-credit card to where you're just locked in at the 400's/500's.
AdThen6507@reddit
Beta behaviour. You need to miss payments to display dominance.
phobox91@reddit
Thats fucked up dystopic
doublecrossfan@reddit
china's evil and intimidating social credit score
our awesome credit rating™
TheEvilSeagull@reddit
Please be kind to our banks loyality program that ultimately determine our lives 🥰🥰
findMyNudesSomewhere@reddit
It's also dependant on how much you use credit in general.
For 1 year - take a CC from your own bank, use it for literally everything planned. And don't miss payments. You should get 800+ easily. You also need to be well off here, can't do this on a hand to mouth existence.
Bourec98@reddit
Can someone explain Credit Score to me? How does one increase it or decrease it? Why should one care about one's credit score? Sorry if it's a stupid question but I'm from Europe
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
So in the past, if the bank wanted to decide if they should loan someone money, they'd make you apply for a loan. Then they'd hire a guy to go out and talk with the applicant, and he'd decide whether or not the applicant seemed good for the loan. The applicant would provide things like proof of income, so it wasn't entirely a vibes based decision, but it was heavily influenced by vibes.
Everyone decided that this was a bad way to do things, since it was heavily susceptible to racism/sexism, and was also just super arbitrary. So they got together and came up with an algorithm. You plug in someone's credit history and income, and it spits out a number that tells you how reliable they are, and they get rejected/approved for loans based on this number
Generally people take out loans for houses/cars, so if you want to get a good interest rate, or be approved at all, you need a good credit score. You can also use credit cards in daily life, these help build your credit score but also give you a 1-5% discount on purchases, depending on the details of the card. You get better credit cards with a higher credit score.
Increasing it is done by having more available credit, and by paying loans on time. Age of your oldest line of credit is also important, and it goes down temporarily if you open too many new accounts in a row.
Bourec98@reddit
Ok that makes sense, but why does it decrease when you pay off a loan early? Doesn't that mean you're extra trustworthy, since you gave the money back to the bank even sooner than they expected?
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
The bank doesn't care if you pay extra or the regular amount, they just care that you aren't late.
The reason paying off a loan, early or otherwise, decreases your credit score is because it decreases the amount of lines of credit you have. You used to have a loan for a million dollars that you were paying off on time, that made you look pretty good.
Now you have a credit card with a max of $1,000 and you're already utilizing half of that. Maybe in the past you were reliable, but now you look very questionable.
The solution to this is to have credit cards that will allow you to maintain your reputation of being reliable even when you do not have a need for a loan.
ImpossibleParfait@reddit
I had 840 credit score. Paid all my debt, student loans, 0 debt. Credit score dropped 100 points oved a year.
Hunriette@reddit
Because you had 0 debt, no?
ImpossibleParfait@reddit
Have 0 debt, its stupid as fuck though. Why should my credit score drop because I paid off 60k worth of debt over 10 years? I'm perfect. I paid like double the student loans on interest. I'm just gonna not care about it. I'm never going into debt again.
Ehaeka42069@reddit
Actually you're not perfect for loan companies. You're the worst customer for loan companies. Them making the money back they paid on you means you're a net neutral for them at best. The financially struggling who only barely manage to make the minimum payment? They're the perfect customer, because they're essentially eternally giving them free money in the form of interest, and a lot of the time, that interest over time become FAR more than the initial borrowing
FrigginRan@reddit
because you need to use a “credit” card to continuously maintain or build credit. Are you using a debit card all the time? You need to keep borrowing and paying off credit to build a credit score.
ImpossibleParfait@reddit
Why am I more of a credit risk because I have money and don't generally need credit?
FrigginRan@reddit
I know it sounds dumb. But you need to “prove” it to the credit card companies which in turn will build your credit score. They cant see your chequing balance.
ImpossibleParfait@reddit
They can't see my credit history where i've paid off damn near 80k worth of shit?
I_RAPE_PCs@reddit
It's like job history.
If you were leafing through resumes and saw John Credit with no activity listed for a stretch of 3 years... Even if he had a high paying job beforehand it's at least a red flag.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
But that's in the past. If you spent a year not being in debt, and not needing any debt, then they'll assume that your normal condition is not having any debt.
So if you suddenly ask for a loan, it looks like you are running out of money, which means there's a higher risk of you defaulting, which means you pay a higher interest rate.
If you had a credit card, and kept paying that off each month, the banks would see that you have credit available which you are not using, and that is a positive sign which shows them you can be trusted with more money
dincosire@reddit
That’s the problem. It doesn't just sound dumb, it is dumb. Someone who already repaid a loan and has good money should be just as trustworthy as someone who gets suckered into the credit card system.
ToumaKazusa1@reddit
Precisely because you don't typically need credit. So if you were financially stable, you probably wouldn't need to ask for a loan at all. The fact that you are just now needing to ask for a loan after years of not needing one suggests that you are not doing well financially and may be a higher risk.
If I have $20,000 worth of credit, and I pay that off fully each month, and I ask for someone else to increase that up to $25,000, that's a pretty small risk for the new lender. If I was really in trouble I'd probably have maxed out that $20,000 line of credit I already have, and I've shown I'm good with borrowed money, so they will probably trust me.
If you go up to them asking for a $25,000 loan out of the gate, they have less reason to believe you'll pay it back, so they'll charge you a higher interest rate to offset the risk of you defaulting.
BigCaregiver2381@reddit
Because you’re not relying on the system. It’s an abusive relationship model, it needs you to need it.
Skreamie@reddit
Doesn't checking your score also lower it?
BloodSoakedMoose@reddit
Yeah but what's your revolving credit utilization and file depth look like
bisky12@reddit
because paying off a loan counts as “closing an account”.
Snipermann02@reddit
Anon has to be leaving something out because I have 2 credit cards and a car loan that I am paying off early and my score is perfect.
Anon prolly has like 12 credit cards he never uses and that's why his score is going down.
crimsonpowder@reddit
Anon needs to log into Jewquifax and freeze his credit. Then he needs to make an account in JudeUnion and do the same. He also needs to take care of Goyxperian.
Boba0514@reddit
It's going down because he isn't being a good borrower at the moment, as he isn't a borrower at all. Anon needs to get a credit card and use it regularly, paying it off straight away on payday.
NotLunaris@reddit
Use the system and don't be a bitch when it comes to making payments.
t. 800 credit score, never paid attention to it
cloud12348@reddit
It’s really not hard. The only people who struggle with these big drops and don’t recover are those using only a debit card in their 30s
Tohrchur@reddit
100%. CC and a car loan and i’m at 795-815 depending on which credit site you use
kanyenke_@reddit
I still find it amazing that US people believe that China has that Orwellian social score thing when they have the very real credit score that does pretty much the same
dincosire@reddit
Credit scores don’t stop you from doing anything. You may get denied from loans from one place or another but there’s always somewhere else you can get a loan from. China's social credit actually restricts their freedoms.
cloud12348@reddit
This is why you use a credit card instead of paying with your parents good boy points anon
ThumYerk@reddit
The Lloyds app credit score is a bit useless anyway, it’s just collating info and making up a score. I found if I just go straight to the agency the score is miles better. Lloyds just want you to check on their app so they can push their credit on to you.
sweet_rico-@reddit
I've been defaulting on all my loans and it's somehow going up steadily?
lanky_mcgee@reddit
Mine tanked 86 points because I moved house and updated it on the electoral roll. Then it tells me I need to improve my score by being registered to vote at an address for 18 months. Stupid system
Nintendoge21@reddit
U can't just call everything u dislike Jewish lol
GumCuzzler21@reddit
Goyim
SaltIsMySugar@reddit
It's not a measure of how dependable you are, it's a measure of how exploitable you are. People with high credit scores are likely to borrow AND repay the debt. But you have to be willing to borrow first.
MuTHa_BLeePuH25@reddit
Me with my 770 score only having a discover card
Kurineko_Regan@reddit
The highest ive ever had the number be is when i was behind on payments
Sum_Bytes@reddit
It’s a measure of how profitable you are to creditors, not how good you are at paying things.
MrEvan312@reddit
It exists so that companies can look at you and deem you fit to go into more debt with them being "eligible" for bigger loans, which you'll never pay off because even if you can your score goes down and oh no what if you're in a situation where you HAVE to have a big loan? You wouldn't want that, would you? Better to just be stuck as a good little debt slave.
Bazzyboss@reddit
Credit score does not matter in the UK. All you need is credit history for mortgages, it's just a scam to try and get you involved with credit cards, it's American nonsense coming here through osmosis.
munchkin2017@reddit
I have a perfect 999 score AMA
Le_Serviette@reddit
It's a Not.A.Social.Credit.Score.App.
frilledplex@reddit
I never miss a mortgage payment, bought my car outright, no loans except like 4.5k in student loans.
Score was sitting at 657 for years.
Sign up for the harbor freight card, which gave me a hefty discount on my toolbox, and it was declined. It showed up in the mail 3 weeks later approved, so I missed my shot at a $300 discount; however, my credit score shot up to 760 without making any purchase or loans. Fucking bonkers how this system works.
DrMeridian@reddit
I missed some card payment score goes up. Been squeaky clean since, score goes down.
This shit is rigged.
PooInTheStreet@reddit
American good boy points
JodkaVodka@reddit
Credit score? Dystopian ahh country
-10000 credit score for speaking out against the american government
Dariosusu@reddit
Kk, goyim score cracked me up
FrigginRan@reddit
if you owe more than 1/3 the limit on your credit card, it takes a hit. Even if you do the “minimum payments”. Just set up autopay for your cards and keep them as close to 0 as possible at all times. Paying off huge loans will boost your score a lot too. I did a large deposit to pay off my car and it went up like 50 points in 1 month.
6spd993@reddit
It's Bri'ish after all.