Norwegian Air International flight D83671, a Boeing 737-800, was involved in a ground collision at Copenhagen Kastrup Airport (CPH), Denmark.

Posted by Evening-Rip5399@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 61 comments

The aircraft landed and taxied towards parking stand A27. As the aircraft approached its final parking position at the stand, using the Docking Guidance System (DGS), the left-hand (LH) wing outer leading edge collided with a movable passenger boarding stair, which had been left in a red hatched prohibited parking area.

The impact caused the passenger stair to overturn, as the aircraft continued to its designated parking position at parking stand A27.

Investigation completed. Final report https://asn.flightsafety.org/reports/upload/SE-RPU.pdf

The incident aircraft resumed regular service on 12 January 2025.

[-]

petarsubotic@reddit

I mean yes they left the stairs in the red "prohibited parking area", but it still amazes me there's not a moment where the flight deck goes, "are we gonna... " "it's going to be tight, maybe we should check"

The blurred out marshaller (I assume) is just chilling.

[-]

NoFewSatan@reddit

the flight deck goes

Do you think they have wing mirrors?

[-]

CoyotesCrusaders@reddit

No. But they do have eyes. If you were driving on a road and someone left a huge pile of bricks in the middle of your lane I guess you would drive straight into it.

[-]

NoFewSatan@reddit

Pilots cannot see that FFS. The ground crew are literally there to guide them, it's their complete responsibility.

[-]

Admetus@reddit

They're following the guide lines on the ground, absolutely not the flight deck's responsibility. You're expecting them to have visual awareness of where the wing tips lead, but that's not the same as knowing how far your wing mirrors of your car stick out.

[-]

SubarcticFarmer@reddit

737 pilot here. It's absolutely considered my responsibility. But maybe that's not a European thing.

[-]

CoyotesCrusaders@reddit

The aircrew also has responsibilities to do a visual scan. If in doubt stop.

[-]

hr2pilot@reddit

Thus☝🏼

[-]

SkyHighExpress@reddit

That isn’t a marshaller, it’s other ground staff and it’s pretty hard to see some steps when you have a 737 in the way

[-]

248-083A@reddit

I agree mate. I thought all pilots (PPL & CPL) were trained in "spacial awareness".

[-]

Binx13@reddit

Have these collisions been happening more frequently, or are they being publicized more now? It feels like every week a plane has hit another plane or a ground vehicle hits a plane and vice versa.

[-]

Cesalv@reddit

Shouldn't be somebody guiding the pilot to avoid this?

[-]

GunRunner80084@reddit

Automatic docking, person starting the docking screen is responsible for the ramp being clear.

[-]

malcolmmonkey@reddit

How does this happen? On my first day they would tell me “never leave things in this area” and for the rest of my time in the job I would never leave things in that area. I can understand people being sloppy if they’re painting barns but this is a fucking airport. How?

[-]

IC_1318@reddit

A couple of years ago I literally had a fuel truck driver position himself behind an aircraft with a running engine, he only moved after we gesticulated like mad, and then once off safely to the side stepped out of his truck and walked towards us, seemingly confused, on a path that would've led him straight to the ingestion zone of the still running engine, once again he was saved because of our frantic hand signals telling him to get the fuck out of here. Had a talk with him after we all calmed down, dude didn't realize the engines were running because he had his protective headset on, and he didn't know what the anticollision beacons lights were or what they meant.

Some people don't listen during training and don't give a shit, and they have supervisors and training officers who apparently don't care to check that the training has been assimilated.

[-]

Ataneruo@reddit

to be fair to the training officers, and speaking in generalities, if a trainee passes a test about the red lines, and says “I understand that I am never supposed to leave things in this area with the red lines”, and then proceeds to not give a shit while the training officer is supervising someone else, what are you supposed to do about it.

[-]

Joatboy@reddit

Generally these issues are not individuals but cultural. In that safety is a distant concern but production is priority 1, 2, and 3 and has been engrained into all the employees

[-]

RAMBO069@reddit

> he didn't know what the anticollision beacon lights were or what they meant.

How the hell did he even pass through training without that basic knowledge? And more so how did he survive without getting turned into mist by a jet engine earlier; unless it was his first day on the job.

[-]

Agitated_Car_2444@reddit

"Why do we have wing walkers every time an airplane arrives at the gate? Doesn't that seem excessive...?"

[-]

Mike__O@reddit

That's a mighty big oops right there. I'm not sure about the procedures at Norwegian, but at my airline it would 100% be my ass if this happened. Before turning into a parking spot (marshallers/wing walkers or not) I am required to visually ensure that the entire silhouette is clear.

If there's ANY doubt about something not being completely out of the silhouette I'm expected to stop, set the parking brake, and wait until the offending object is removed. It doesn't matter if it's something low that the wings will clear vertically, or just over the line an inch. NOTHING is permitted to be in the silhouette with the exception of pre-positioned chocks waiting to be installed once we park.

[-]

hr2pilot@reddit

This ☝🏻☝🏼☝🏾☝🏿

[-]

mrvarmint@reddit

Marshallers aren’t required in most places outside the U.S.

[-]

Mike__O@reddit

That's why I said "or not". I'm aware of the various auto-park systems out there. My point is it doesn't matter if the parking guidance is manual or automated, it's ultimately the pilot's responsibility to ensure that the silhouette is clear to avoid collisions with objects like this.

[-]