Every time i see this plane at work I can't help but thinking how the enormous CG displacement affects the flight controls. It must be a bitch to control after it releases all water stored
Do these planes have a special designed scoop and tank to be doing that? I'd imagine a hollow tank with a normal scoop (like a flat shovel head) wouldn't be effective and efficient.
Can't talk about countries or provinces, but SOPFEU (the Québec society for the protection of forests against fire) coordinates with local police and municipalities for that. They also do a flyby of the body of water before doing scooping, during which they watch for obstacles, traffic, weather, waves, etc.
Hope he doesn't pick up too m any fish to do and drop on the fire! Talk about 'Fried Fish'.
BTW years ago there was a case of an unlucky swimmer who was picked up by a fire-fighting amphibian 'taking a drink' in a local lake and was dropped on a nearby fire from a great height. The coroner ruled that the swimmer (don't know his name but I remember reading the article) died from a fall and/or burned to death whilst swimming... I guess it just was not his lucky day!
The probes are tiny. Imagine if you were a boat the size of that plane, going at the speed that plane is going, and you stuck both of your hands in the water to try to stop it, it would barely slow down.
The probes that drop down are only about 4in x 6in, like a "J," so it's not a lot of drag on the aircraft. It's actually pretty amazing that those small probes can ingest 6000 liters in 12 seconds.
The scoopers, CL215s and 415s etc can put a huge dent in fire behavior in a very short period of time as long as their water source is close by. For large and very large(VLAT) air tankers they will have to refill at a runway with the equipment to pump retardant or water into the holding tank. The scoopers return time is usually faster. My 2c
Obviously there is a big wide bay to slurp up all that water. But then how do they prevent it from sloshing around? Thousands of pounds rolling around would seem to destabilize the sturdiest aircraft.
If the tanks are full, there is no free surface effect. I'm talking from memory but if I remember correctly the tanks also have dividers to reduce the FSE for partial loads.
Select_Panda_649@reddit
Imagine how many bird this thing must swallow…
Holyman23@reddit
Fish…
elkab0ng@reddit
Delivered quickly to the fish fry!
shaundisbuddyguy@reddit
Ohhh cannnada
MrTripodYT@reddit (OP)
It was filmed in Greece
InsaneInTheDrain@reddit
I would have expected firefighters to know better than to dump water on a Greece fire
duckdodgers4@reddit
where else...
MrTripodYT@reddit (OP)
Sorry
shaundisbuddyguy@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-415
MrTripodYT@reddit (OP)
Ah fuck I forgot the planes called that I’m sorry bro
kaufmann_i_am_too@reddit
Every time i see this plane at work I can't help but thinking how the enormous CG displacement affects the flight controls. It must be a bitch to control after it releases all water stored
splepage@reddit
The water tanks are basically at the CG, so it's not as bad as you might think.
https://x.com/vikingairltd/status/946543824305836032
kaufmann_i_am_too@reddit
Oh cool thanks, I've never seen this diagram before, I thought the water thanks were way bigger
Gutierrez1978@reddit
👍👍
Competitive_Stable66@reddit
Do these planes have a special designed scoop and tank to be doing that? I'd imagine a hollow tank with a normal scoop (like a flat shovel head) wouldn't be effective and efficient.
AnohtosAmerikanos@reddit
Greece?
accountaccumulator@reddit
Looks like Sardegna / Corsica to me.
Designer_Buy_1650@reddit
Sweet.
KannyDay88@reddit
Amazing!
Ive always wondered: How do they prevent accidents / collisions / decapitation of swimmers, canooists, divers, surfers etc?
splepage@reddit
Can't talk about countries or provinces, but SOPFEU (the Québec society for the protection of forests against fire) coordinates with local police and municipalities for that. They also do a flyby of the body of water before doing scooping, during which they watch for obstacles, traffic, weather, waves, etc.
KarmicDeficit@reddit
Look carefully, I’d imagine. And they probably stay far enough out from shore that swimmers aren’t likely.
Careless-Field9500@reddit
Hope he doesn't pick up too m any fish to do and drop on the fire! Talk about 'Fried Fish'.
BTW years ago there was a case of an unlucky swimmer who was picked up by a fire-fighting amphibian 'taking a drink' in a local lake and was dropped on a nearby fire from a great height. The coroner ruled that the swimmer (don't know his name but I remember reading the article) died from a fall and/or burned to death whilst swimming... I guess it just was not his lucky day!
FrillyLlama@reddit
It’s fish for dinner in the hills tonight!
PyroWizza@reddit
How does it keep its speed when swallowing all that water up?
splepage@reddit
The probes are tiny. Imagine if you were a boat the size of that plane, going at the speed that plane is going, and you stuck both of your hands in the water to try to stop it, it would barely slow down.
scotsman3288@reddit
The probes that drop down are only about 4in x 6in, like a "J," so it's not a lot of drag on the aircraft. It's actually pretty amazing that those small probes can ingest 6000 liters in 12 seconds.
splepage@reddit
That's not a fire plane, that's a water plane. It's super effective against fire types.
Holyman23@reddit
The scoopers, CL215s and 415s etc can put a huge dent in fire behavior in a very short period of time as long as their water source is close by. For large and very large(VLAT) air tankers they will have to refill at a runway with the equipment to pump retardant or water into the holding tank. The scoopers return time is usually faster. My 2c
SmallRocks@reddit
Incredible. Every. Single. Time.
rostov007@reddit
Another angle
Phil-X-603@reddit
Absolutely amazing how they keep the plane low enough to scoop water but high enough to avoid a bad ditching.
SMEAGAIN_AGO@reddit
Nerves and balls of steel!
Godspeed!
Kona1957@reddit
What lake?
MuchSong1887@reddit
Any regional aviation company that starts building more of these is gonna find themselves with a lot of business overnight.
BrewCityChaserV2@reddit
Horitizonal landscape + plane moving horizontally - eh let's just film this in portrait mode instead.
(I'm just giving you shit - nice capture)
quietflyr@reddit
Personally, I prefer a very formal fire plane, dumping water in a tux.
Long_Ad2824@reddit
Obviously there is a big wide bay to slurp up all that water. But then how do they prevent it from sloshing around? Thousands of pounds rolling around would seem to destabilize the sturdiest aircraft.
Affectionate-Mix4616@reddit
If the tanks are full, there is no free surface effect. I'm talking from memory but if I remember correctly the tanks also have dividers to reduce the FSE for partial loads.