What’s the biggest culture shock you’ve experienced while traveling within the continental US?
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Growing up in the Midwest, I’d personally say seeing Buddhist shrines out in the Seattle area was pretty unique and neat.
Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit
I did not realize it rains in the summer in pretty much all of the country until I moved away from California at 22. It’s been 10 years and I still can’t get used to it. It’s crazy to me that you can’t count on the weather to be nice in the summer and you can have your outdoor activities ruined year-round. Summer has always been my favorite season. I love the heat and being able to be outside and to be honest, the fact that the weather can still be shitty during the summer months pisses me off every year.
PennyMarbles@reddit
recoils in horror
TheMuffinMan-69@reddit
There's no humidity in most of California. It's still too hot to enjoy it during peak summer, but 105°F with 15% humidity is a cakewalk compared to being in 90°F with 85% humidity. I grew up in Cali, and let's just say my first few months in the South were pretty rough until my body acclimated.
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
He he he… okay.
Well… if “most” is the entire right half then maybe.
TheMuffinMan-69@reddit
Lol it's true that some parts have humidity a lot higher than 15%, but trust me. Even the parts of California that have higher humidity are nothing compared to the South. Also, CA has a lot more wind. Most humid places in CA either don't have too many trees, or they are near large bodies of water and/or mountains, which can all lead to wind. The worst part isn't necessarily the fact that it's 90°F with 90% humidity, it's that in most of the South there's ABSOLUTELY NO WIND. The air is incredibly still. Imagine living in a sauna filled with the devil's ballsweat, and you'll be pretty close to how it feels. It's flat as a pancake, and covered in so many trees that a decent breeze is an unheard of blessing from the Lord. This is actually a huge part of why they get deleted by hurricanes every few years, and it's usually during the summer.
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
It’s just funny cause my wife and I are both originally from SoCal and when we go there and visit or whatever the humidity is fucking oppressive compared to what we’re used to now.
TheMuffinMan-69@reddit
Rip that makes sense. Isn't the highest humidity in Utah like 10% or something?
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
I live in St George so we're desert. Today it's whispy cloudiness getting heavier tomorrow... so it's a teensy bit humid... 8%
:)
TheMuffinMan-69@reddit
That's rough. Idk, at that point I stg the air makes you feel thirsty.
PennyMarbles@reddit
37 years here. Still waiting on my acclimation 🥲
TheMuffinMan-69@reddit
Rip, I feel for you. Might be able to help though. If you were born in the South, go to a different climate and acclimate to it (not for a few days, minimum 4-6 weeks). Once you do, go back to the South, and you'll probably acclimate a lot better once your body has experienced radically different climates (obviously this is easier said than done, but you'll notice what I'm talking about if you ever experience it). It's almost like if it's always been in one climate, your body doesn't know the exact way to establish a good baseline. But if you provide it with a range of experiences, it'll fine tune its ability to acclimate.
redwolf1219@reddit
17 years here and you just crushed my hope about acclimating someday😭
nakedonmygoat@reddit
I live in Houston and agree. It's humid and stick most of the year. Even what little cold we get is a damp cold.
When I visit my relatives in New Mexico, I can tolerate at least 10 degrees hotter and 10 degrees colder.
SeaGurl@reddit
Im also in Houston. I went up to Lubbock and few years back to visit family and I couldn't believe the weatherman when he said it was 100 degrees out. But 100 with whatever the humidity up there was feels better than 90 with 85 humidity here 🥵...or the 95% humidity its supposed to be tomorrow 😅
AdPsychological790@reddit
Know what the worst is about Houston heat? When it does hit 103 it'll still be 85% humidity.
SeaGurl@reddit
Oh yeah! Im unfortunately well aware.
Entropy907@reddit
[ laughing in Pacific Northwest ]
Tricky_Cup3981@reddit
Sitting here right now with my windows wide open soaking in how cold and rainy it is in Boston. Granted it's hard planning outdoor events in the summer, but good god I'd take that any day over the horror of intense heat.
PennyMarbles@reddit
MA is life goals. Mississippi feels like being in Satan's mouth 9 months out of the year. My doctor even told me I have seasonal depression, but reversed. Fuck this place
Tricky_Cup3981@reddit
Big yikes. Nothing but sympathy from me for that, hope you get to move soon!!
CAAugirl@reddit
I hate summer but I know what you’re talking about.
I remember as a kid we’d get those Sear’s/Mervyn’s fall catalogues and I loved the long, heavy skirts, the heavy sweaters, the high boots. Ah… the 80s.
But they also always came in September and I never understood why when it was still summer in September. Mom had to explain that in other parts of the world it started to get cold in September and people actually had to wear jackets over their Halloween costumes because it’d be too cold otherwise.
I could not understand. Cold in October was not something I was able to accept. Then I left California and was like… what is this rain after April? How?
masoleumofhope@reddit
It really is obvious but eye-open experiencing the substantial weather shifts in some of the other states. Reinforces the need for seasonal wardrobe because you guys have such big swings.
Bay Area California, I felt like my family always thought of clothing as activity-based rather than seasonal-based. Then it would be co-opted for any severe seasonal weather. Get a thicker coat for hiking and it can be used when we have a cold spike too! Hiking boots? Great for if it ends up snowing! etc
When I went to Chicago during a polar vortex I learned what a real winter coat was. Y'all are made of tough stuff.
CAAugirl@reddit
My first season working at Yellowstone I learned real quick like why we had summer uniforms and winter uniforms. I’d never been in cold like that my entire life. And I loved it. I’m a winter girl.
masoleumofhope@reddit
Boy its been a long time since I've heard someone mention Mervyn's.
CAAugirl@reddit
Old school
masoleumofhope@reddit
you love to see it
orkash@reddit
Haha, dont come to Michigan. It went from 85 to 50 in a matter of hours a few weeks ago and brought all the weather just as fast. Its been grayer than a flipper house since till right now. I welcome back the sun...for now but its only gonna be in the 60s all weekend.
FrontAd9873@reddit
Rain won’t kill tou
bananapanqueques@reddit
Houston floods disagree.
jrice138@reddit
I’m from CA but spent a year in North Carolina. People out there would say stuff like “oh man we need some rain” and I’d think “wtf you talking about? It rained YESTERDAY”
Doormat_Model@reddit
I had the opposite experience moving to SoCal and realizing there’s millions of Americans who don’t worry about weather and it’s wild to me you can just plan and do things and not stress that lol
FoolhardyBastard@reddit
Come enjoy the upper Midwest in which 40 degree temperature swings can happen at any time! 90 degrees last week? How about 40 and raining this week! Hazzah!
leelee1976@reddit
Had to turn my furnace back on. I was pissed.
Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit
I’ve enjoyed the 70 degree swings in Colorado enough lol
Glum-System-7422@reddit
Also a California native and the fact that most people don’t know what the weather will be like every day, or know what it’ll probably be in 4 months is crazy. How do they plan anything??
nakedonmygoat@reddit
You just always have an alternate plan, an umbrella in the car, and one at the office, too. Since I worked at a university campus, and there is no such thing as nearby parking at a university, most of us learned to keep our nice shoes under our desk or carry them with us in a bag. I ruined many a pair of nice shoes in sudden downpours before figuring out that trick.
Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit
It’s crazy lol. You just hope for the best and keep a bunch of layers with you
Glum-System-7422@reddit
For real! I went to Denver for a conference and it’s go from sunny to hail so big it hospitalized people in a few hours. Colorado has a lot of nature but that would make it pretty inaccessible
Modman75@reddit
Come to the Northeast. The official slogan of the Northeast is, “Don’t like the weather? Wait 15 minutes, it will change”.
This week, I have driven to work with the AC on and home from work with the heater on. In the last 2 weeks both the heat and AC have been on at least once. Oh, and the pool is open.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
Once on a road trip that took us through West Texas along I-10, we stopped overnight in Fort Stockton, one of the few towns along that route that had a good number of fairly decent accommodations. We got our luggage into our room a Holiday Inn Express or similar just as a thunderstorm began. Then it began to hail.
We went out on the balcony to check if the hail was big enough that we should be worried about our car, and noticed a young couple standing at the balcony rail, fascinated. They turned to us kind of excited and said they'd never seen hail before. My husband and I were confused. Then the guy said, "We're from California!"
Loud-Fox-8018@reddit
Summer rain in the PNW is the best (unless it’s part of a thunder storm, which tends to also be muggy versus our usual low humidity heat).
Draconuus95@reddit
I work in an outdoorsy tourist business(hot air balloons). Several of the pilots I’ve worked with over the years have lived in California a good portion of their lives. If they want to fly there. There’s is relatively little thought that goes into it. They can basically go whenever as long as they have crew and passengers.
It’s always fun when they come here(Wyoming) for the first time in the summer and find out there can be stretches up to 2 weeks where we can’t get the Baloons off the ground. Plus we have about a 2.5 hour window everyday where they can safely fly. Always takes them a couple weeks to adjust to the mindset.
No_Vacation369@reddit
We have June gloom.
Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit
Depends where you live I guess. Not where I grew up. And June gloom is still way better than absolute dumping rain half of the summer days
Chemical_Enthusiasm4@reddit
That and October not being summer weather.
Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit
Yeah my first Halloween in the Midwest I was like how can I dress up when I have to wear 4 layers?
stillnotelf@reddit
This is international but I remember we welcomed a European coworker in July. His first week we got your standard summer thunderstorm. His eyes got huge and he was getting worried and the rest of us explained "it will be scattered thunderstorms every day for the next two months, no problem"
suitable_zone3@reddit
I've lived in the Midwest my whole rainy-summer life and it pisses me off too.
itds@reddit
Hence the phrases “weather permitting” and “rain check”.
DarkMagickan@reddit
This is probably not the biggest culture shock anybody has ever experienced, but learning that people in Wisconsin have no clue how to properly make a Reuben sandwich. I ordered one in a restaurant, and they put mustard on it.
slimdell@reddit
Is it bad that I don’t know what a Reuben sandwich is?
DarkMagickan@reddit
No, although I personally haven't met anyone who doesn't know.
You start off with rye bread. Add corned beef or pastrami, depending on the region, and then sauerkraut. For cheese, you're going to want Swiss. As for the spread, some folks say thousand Island dressing, and then some folks say those people are heretics, but I can't remember what they put instead.
Under absolutely no circumstances should this sandwich ever touch mustard.
And now let the sandwich war begin in the comments under my comment.
Draconuus95@reddit
One of my local bars generally has great food. Absolutely love it 99% But they made a jambalaya that was a tomato based soup with rice kernels floating in it for the soup de jour on occasion. As someone who grew up in east Texas and made regular trips to Louisiana. I about lost my mind when I first saw it. Was just an abomination.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Ain't no way they did that. Thats pure heresy.
Relative-Score4688@reddit
Yea. Delis in general are just extremely different outside of the Northeast, if that’s where you’re from. I miss good Jewish Delis.
koknbals@reddit (OP)
As someone who now lives in Wisconsin, I feel your pain. You are heard lol
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
Yeah, I’m familiar with that area quite well. My military friends and I were denied entry into “Smokes”, because “we looked like we were going to cause trouble.” I had a friend who was charged with criminal trespassing at a club called “Aces and Eights” because he was asked to leave and they said he refused. He just got there 15 minutes prior and ordered a drink. was waiting on getting his first drink, but when he asked the bartender where his drink was, the bartender said he was causing a scene and called the police. The police said that management could ask him to leave for any reason and since he didn’t, it was criminal trespassing and he was arrested. He was the only person of his color in the club.
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
When I moved from the north east to the south because of military orders I was absolutely shocked that they had separate bars for people of color and white people. You were literally not served if you tried going into the opposite establishment.
Guilty_Spray_1112@reddit
Maybe in the 50s but not recently
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
It was in Georgia in 2013.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
I’m from Georgia Never heard of this lol
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
Tucker, Georgia. Also, Macon, Georgia.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
I lived in Macon before
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
Little town about 10 miles south of that is absolutely segregated. I believe to this day, however I haven’t been there in at least five years.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
A lot of neighborhoods are naturally segregated around here, I’ve never heard of a single race only bar though. I don’t see racism or anything unless I’m in north GA, but there’s def historically black/white neighborhoods
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
When I say segregated, I mean the population is about 50% white- 50% black and the bars will be 100% one way or the other.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
That doesn’t indicate segregation lol, some areas are mixed in
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
No, I think that’s exactly what modern day segregation is. I can tell you lived in the south lol.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
You think Chicago? NYC, Milwaukee, LA isn’t segregated? America as a whole is like that
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
OK, fine but if you are a white person and you go into one of the traditionally black bars or clubs, do you still get served?
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
I’m black myself 😂 and yes everybody gets served. As white person in the deep south you’re a minority in plenty places, u can’t deny serving black people you have to interact with them everyday.
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
Well, they definitely still did this in 2013 when I was there.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
For example, white ppl are the minority in Macon and even towns south of it like Warner Robins, Hawkinsville, Byron, fort valley
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
That doesn’t indicate segregation lok
Alarmed-Extension289@reddit
Yeah there's an issue of time here and being from CA I'd like to think this was the 60's but these kind of shenanigan's likely happened into the late 80's in small pockets of America.
There's still restaurants in the south that might be having "private parties" to certain people. Younger brother experienced it last year while traveling through the south twice. He got the hint and just went somewhere else.
Kinda' funny to see folks on hear in disbelief.
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
I’m not making this shit up man. This was in 2013.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
Bro, what??
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
Yeah. Most people didn’t push it and just accepted it. If you actually tried to do it (and I did), you would just sit at the bar and no one would come around to ask what you wanted to drink or eat. If you hunted the bartender or waitress down, they would either ignore you or take your order but you just never got whatever you ordered. They would say they’re very sorry, but they were busy for some other excuse.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Are you like 80?
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
No. Ha.
UrLittleVeniceBitch_@reddit
Recently??
KarmaSilencesYou@reddit
2013
VirtualMatter2@reddit
That sounds very traditional.... And there I thought segregation was a historical thing only.
Relative-Score4688@reddit
What? I moved from NYC to Texas and have never seen anything even remotely close.
koknbals@reddit (OP)
Is this recent? That’s insane!
WhichWitchyWay@reddit
Going to Boston from the south and watching multiple, blatantly racist encounters in public. Like that shit would have gotten you at the very least talked to, if not smacked in my home city. I was always led to believe racism was only in the south but it's definitely not just a south problem.
Neuvirths_Glove@reddit
I grew up in Buffalo, live in Texas now, and the racism is different. I've tried figure out how to word it, but it's hard to describe without stepping on toes. But I think there were a lot more people of color down south and even though they were oppressed, they were an accepted part of society. When there was migration of people of color to the north, the whites saw them as taking good factory jobs up there and the reaction was very racially based.... I think? I don't know. But it's like up north people don't think they should even have to look at a black person.
WhichWitchyWay@reddit
I think the south is just a really confusing place. You are expected to be polite, kind, and helpful to your fellow man in public. You can be racist in private amongst select company, but if you act racist in public you'll get called out. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance which I think what's happening with deportations is highlighting. This idea that "well illegals are bad. But I dont understand why my wife/neighbor/friend was jailed! They're a good person they just messed up some paperwork!" It's the same thing. They think their black neighbors/friends/random guy next to them on the bus is the exception without realizing that maybe their foundational stereotypes are wrong. Like "I don't get why my friend Bob cant get hired. Yeah he's black but hes good at the job." Then turn around and at their own business not even look at an applicant because they're black.
I think the gulf coast south also has a weird relationship to race because if you go back enough we're mostly pretty mixed. In the 1700s and earlier you just married and had kids with whomever was surviving the squalid conditions down there. Race didnt matter. It was a very French society. Then English morality came and the Civil war and society became even more segregated. My mother's grandmother is obviously mixed creole. But my grandmother and great aunt were shockingly racist. Like dropping N bombs left and right. There was actually an article written about my family in the Mobile paper highlighting how families split between "passing" members and non passing. So a lot of the racism is very much steeped in self hatred and fear of getting discovered.
And it's also this weird thing of I am white, but black grandmothers talk, sound, and act more like how my grandmother did than white grandmothers, so if I'm out in public and someone is being mean to an elderly black woman I'm going to publicly defend her and I think you do see white men here stepping up and doing that. So basically I just think it's really complicated.
Relative-Score4688@reddit
I 100% agree as someone from New York. We always hear that racism is a big issue in the South, and it definitely is, but I’ve also found that people in the South treat those of different races more equally than up North, especially in rural areas of the Northeast.
In the South, while institutionalized racism has certainly had a larger effect than up north, people seem to live in a much more integrated world than parts of the north. There is a lot of an “out of sight, out of mind” idea that white Northerners hold about race thar needs to be talked about more.
ObsessiveAboutCats@reddit
My comment on this thread was about being a native Texan who visited a friend in upstate NY and we drove through a tiny little town just FULL of Confederate flags. In New York State. Flags in an amount that would have been a bit excessive for an ass-end-of-nowhere Texas town. This still confuses me.
WhichWitchyWay@reddit
I went to the Czech Republic and we were kayaking down a river near the oldest town there. There was a beer stop on the route and I wanted a beer dangit. My friends kept paddling - they were in a hard canoe while my husband and I were in an inflatable canoe so we were slower.
Anyway, I heard banjo music, which was odd and a red flag, but we paddled up to where they were waiting for us and were like "why aren't we stopping?" Then they pointed and we saw a Confederate flag flying high above the place. And that's when I learned confederate flags were used in Europe because they couldn't fly Nazi flags anymore. We were shopping in Prague during a nationalist protest and saw so many Confederate flags.
I've honestly seen more flags outside of the south than in the south - like Europe and rural Midwest. It's been so weird and eye opening to me.
Valcyor@reddit
Realizing that 75% or more the population of the country lives in areas I would call unbearably humid and/or hot. California, Texas, anywhere east of the Mississippi and/or south of the Ohio. Even places where it rains, it's way worse rain than anything I experience at home.
The Pacific Northwest has the best weather of the entire country and it's not even close.
Dragonfly-fire@reddit
It really does. If you can lewrn to embrace the gray blanket sky in the winter, you'll be rewarded. Rain here is usually so gentle compared to elsewhere. The hail is too - it's just cute little pellets compared to the life-threatening baseball size hail thst Texas (my home state) can get. 😄 And tornadoes are super rare, thankfully!
Valcyor@reddit
Literally the only problems are the long-term looming threat of a volcano going off or a magnitude 7+ earthquake hitting, neither of which has happened in my lifetime, or an out-of-control wildfire, which can happen almost anywhere anyway.
I'll gladly have an aluminum overcast from December to April if that's all I have to deal with. :)
Dragonfly-fire@reddit
Same! I love it. And if the massive Cascadia zone earthquake does happen in our lifetime, it will be terrible, but it will be a one time catastrophic event not annual.
1201_alarm@reddit
I was in Florida last week, and I could not understand why people were hesitant to leave a store when it started raining. Rain is nice! Rain is friendly! BUT NO. I learned very quickly that Florida rain is NOT nice, or friendly. It wants to completely ruin your day. I was so happy when I came home to a bit of proper PNW rain, I just stood outside to enjoy it for a while.
AdPsychological790@reddit
So in Oregon it doesn't change from completely sunny to side-ways-rain, 1000 bolts of lightning, hail, and near-hurricane force winds in 10 minutes? And then 10 minutes later it's completely sunny again?
Valcyor@reddit
Well, we definitely have the whiplash sudden weather changes, (old Oregon adage, "don't like the weather, give it five minutes") but usually Zeus keeps his marital problems to himself.
Valcyor@reddit
I think this is part of why everybody likes to rag the Pacific Northwest for being rainy all the time. Yeah, it might rain more days per year than most places, but what you call rain and what we call rain are NOTHING alike.
What we call rain, Texas or Florida would call "sorry, did the groundskeeper leave a sprinkler on?" What they call rain, we call "oh shit the world is ending!"
brian11e3@reddit
You should try Illinois during corn sweat season. For about 2 weeks in July, everyone wishes they had gills.
Valcyor@reddit
I was in Indiana in August. Hot and humid as hell, which surprised me for being so far inland. Maybe it's Lake Michigan.
Annie-Snow@reddit
SSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!
wormbreath@reddit
I grew up in rural Wyoming, everything was a culture shock. lol
Food. Weather. People. Transportation. Language.
People opening the car doors at the same time!? What!?
Icy_Ad7953@reddit
>> People opening the car doors at the same time!? What!?
Please explain this sentence. What's wrong with opening the car doors at the same time? Did you grow up somewhere really windy, so that two doors open makes a dangerous draft?
masoleumofhope@reddit
gonna need some clarity on that last one if ya don't mind
realdonaldtramp3@reddit
South side Chicago feels like a third world country
brian11e3@reddit
Back in the late 80's to early 90's, I used to talk to a couple of older gentlemen who moved their families from the south side of Chicago to Peoria. Any time they talked about Chicago, they referred to it as Chiraq.
At the time, I had no idea what they were talking about.
realdonaldtramp3@reddit
I love Chicago, it’s an amazing city. But I took a bus the complete wrong way once and ended up exiting in a really scary area. It literally looked like a different world. Buildings were condemned, people were doing drugs on the streets, trash everywhere. An amazing woman came up to me and insisted on waiting with me until the bus came back because she knew I was on the wrong side of town. She didn’t leave my side till the bus came. I’ve never experienced that kind of poverty before, and was totally culture shocked to realize it is right under my nose. There are soo many different cultures in america, such a vast land. But that kind of socioeconomic and racial divide should never ever exist in a first world country that supposedly has programs in place to help prevent profound poverty. It was very disheartening and devastating to see.
brian11e3@reddit
My current residence is a small town about 4 hours from Chicago. We have a local low income apartment complex that has contracts with RAP, RHH, and HPP through IDHS. People who are in queue for housing in Chicago get shipped our way.
I've discussed the culture shock from the move with a few of the families. Our tiny town of roughly 600 people having a Dollar General is one of them. From what I hear, there are a lot of food deserts from the areas these people come from.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
Not really
ColumbiaWahoo@reddit
Honestly found the different types of weather/terrain to be an even bigger shock. California felt like a different country compared to Maryland and the jagged hills looked amazing.
Real_Marko_Polo@reddit
Having grown up and for the nost part lived in the rural/suburban South, New York City was a trip. Lived up to expectations , for sure.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
I've had several, but the only one I haven't already recounted in responses to other posters' comments is the Santuario de Chimayo, New Mexico. They literally have pilgrimages up the mountain to pray at the shrine, and in the main gift shop you can see pictures of ritual Easter crucifixions (ropes, not nails).
The healing shrine is very small. The walls are covered with crutches and messages in both English and Spanish of thanks for the healing and prayers for those who are still suffering. There are small shelves for empty pill bottles, and old women who don't speak English sit on benches waiting their turn to get some of the "holy dirt" in the alcove.
I took a friend who is a US history professor there and I think her brain nearly exploded.
I've also driven by a Penitente morada, but being female and not of that particular culture, I of course could only note it from a distance.
masoleumofhope@reddit
I toured a small college in the PNW and almost the entire population of students appeared to be white. I simply hadn't been in a situation like that been in before and was too naive to anticipate that in the PNW so it really stood out. It was a very bizarre experience for me.
I'm white and I grew up in a very demographically diverse area of California, attending public schools. Varied by school, but student bodies varied around 25-50% Caucasian with various Latino, Asian, Black, and Pacific Islander ethnicities composing the rest of the student body.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
This reminds me of my experience in Vermont. I hadn't been to New England since I was a teenager, and my husband was a dark-skinned third generation Mexican-American. I thought nothing of signing us up for the Covered Bridges Half Marathon in VT.
We had a great time and were treated wonderfully wherever we went, but it didn't take long before we were both uneasy. For me, it was just that I had grown up in a very diverse culture, and seeing people with skin as white as mine in every direction began to feel weird. My husband later admitted that he'd gotten the side-eye a lot. He wasn't picking up on any hostility, it was just a sense that people were puzzled by him.
We had to go to Hanover in NH just to get some Indian food, and in retrospect that may have been the only time he felt comfortable. We were both very happy to get home to our diverse culture. I don't dislike VT by a long shot, and I would recommend it to anyone, but my own life experience has been too different for me to voluntarily choose a less diverse area as a permanent home.
wisemonkey101@reddit
Nice restaurants in the South. I will never ever ever ever be comfortable with having a person be so sickeningly subservient as a young black man serving me cocktails and shrimp.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
I spent a week in Charleston, both for business and then an overstay for a bit of vacay. I come from a very diverse city and became very uncomfortable with never seeing a Black person in a position of authority. Now, this was only my personal experience, and I certainly didn't go to every single place in Charleston. But I never saw a Black manager at a hotel, shop, or restaurant.
At a couple of upscale restaurants I went to, they had a front server/back server system, which is where the front server explains the menu and the specials, they take your order, and they do all the checking up. If you order a bottle of wine, the front server does the whole presentation thing. The back server delivers the food, and might go get additional items you request. Back servers aren't quite the same as bussers, but they're close. (Yes, I used to work in the restaurant business.) But in Charleston, all the front servers were white, and all the back servers and bus staff were Black.
Go out on the streets in the historic areas though, and you'll see plenty of Black women weaving palmetto baskets, and young boys trying to sell you a palmetto rose. Now, as an amateur artist myself, I'm the first to admire artistry of any kind, and I've tried my hand at basketry a few times. It's fun and relaxing, and if I thought I could make a buck out of it, I'd do it. But seeing who was managing the historic hotel and who was sitting on a street corner weaving baskets for sale was unsettling for me.
TLDR: Hard agree.
ALoungerAtTheClubs@reddit
Seen people in Colorado dress like they're about to go hiking any second (even when they obviously aren't) was a little wild.
gravyrider@reddit
Dude from Boulder here. Personally called out.
No-Possibility5556@reddit
You’re in north face pajamas aren’t you?
gravyrider@reddit
Underwear with a girl out of my league that will cheat on me soon. Normal Boulder things.
Just_Philosopher_900@reddit
lol
suitable_zone3@reddit
🤣
SmokedPapfreaka@reddit
Why am I feeling called out even though I live in the Seattle area… 🤔
MrsPedecaris@reddit
LOL! I'm in Seattle, and thought, "What? Isn't that just normal everyday clothes?"
wildtech@reddit
I live in northwest Colorado. Just today I was talking with a coworker about how funny it is to fly from Texas to Denver to Steamboat. You go from khakis, blazers, big hair and makeup to sweatpants and athletic jackets to Patagonia and no makeup at every phase of the journey.
Foconomo@reddit
Then you see some kid hiking a 14er in Crocks
_Smedette_@reddit
Seeing Confederate Flags in the south.
ObsessiveAboutCats@reddit
I'm from the south and grew up seeing them.
My culture shock moment was seeing them (a bunch of them) in a tiny town in upstate New York.
Dragonfly-fire@reddit
Yeah, I grew up seeing them around parts of Texas. I was (naively) shocked to see them flown occasionally in rural areas of the Pacific Northwest where I live now. Even sometimes in the back of a pickup window.
_Smedette_@reddit
I live in Australia now and have seen them here! Absolutely wild.
ObsessiveAboutCats@reddit
...ok that makes even less sense. What the heck.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
Confederate flags aren’t even common in the Deep South though
_Smedette_@reddit
Just answering the question. I had never seen a Confederate Flag in person (other than a museum) until I visited South Carolina. Also the prevalence of it on bumper stickers, clothing, etc.
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
It’s everywhere in rural America, and in South Carolina it’s not prevalent until you’re in the Appalachian areas like Greenville SC. It’s common on the coast of SC too.
In the heart of Deep South no. You won’t find a lot of that in Jackson Mississippi, Montgomery Alabama, Macon Georgia, Columbia South Carolina
_Smedette_@reddit
Thank you for explaining to me what I have experienced, Internet Stranger 🫡
therealDrPraetorius@reddit
Everything is deep-fried in the south.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
Say you haven't been to Charleston or New Orleans without saying you haven't been to Charleston or New Orleans.
ObsessiveAboutCats@reddit
Hey now, be fair. We also do some excellent barbecue (to serve with our deep fried fries).
Pale_Consideration87@reddit
Not true
Neuvirths_Glove@reddit
Grew up in Buffalo, NY.
Live in Fort Worth, TX, now. Around here it's not all that unusual to see people riding horses in the middle of the city. There is a river trail that winds through the city, sometimes see people riding horseback on the trail. There's also a big equestrian arena facility just west of downtown, still in the big city, and I see people riding their horses between buildings, sometimes across busy University Drive. And something that goes with that: people dressed up in cowboy gear, not for the style but for the functionality.
Growing up in Buffalo, you just wouldn't see that kind of thing.
Relative-Score4688@reddit
Also from New York and now in Texas most of the time.
I always thought cowboy attire, pickup trucks, and all the Texas stuff had to be exaggerated and mainly just in the movies. I was wrong, and it’s very real, but it’s still definitely more urban and modern than I think some may realize.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
It's very much dependent on which Texas city you go to, as well.
In Houston, street signs in some areas are in both English and Chinese. Workplace safety posters are in English, Spanish, and Vietnamese. You can get amazing Indian food, made by first generation Indians. And Houston has one of the top ten Pride festivals in the US.
San Antonio prides itself on its Spanish/Mexican heritage, and is one of the oldest cities in Texas. The annual Fiesta in April is a very big deal.
Austin used to have a very laid-back, hippie vibe. But they became a victim of their own success, in a way. I understand from friends who live there that it's not that way anymore, except in specific pockets of the city.
El Paso might as well be New Mexico, and I should know, since most of my extended family is in NM and I've spent a lot of time out there.
Go to some of the smaller cities near the border with Mexico and it's helpful to know Spanish. Go to the small towns of Central Texas, and you'll see a heavily German-inspired culture.
But yes, there's nowhere in Texas where you won't find pickup trucks and a bit of cowboy culture, even though outside of Fort Worth, small towns, or just about anywhere in West Texas, it's mostly cosplay.
koknbals@reddit (OP)
To be fair, I don’t think you’d see that in just about any major US city. Lol I flip on the rare occasion I see police on horseback, I can only imagine how cool that part of the FW culture would be to experience.
Neuvirths_Glove@reddit
And you think okay, cowboys, but just like any big city there's a lot of other cultures mixed in. Lots of Thai and Vietnamese restaurants. Literally taco trucks on every corner, including a lot where they speak little or no English and the tacos are super cheap and really good.
Sometimes we'll be eating in a restaurant and notice three or four different ethnic identities among the patrons: Asians, Hispanics, people of color (including native Africans, not just African Americans).
Growing up in Buffalo of Polish descent, I heard my share of waltz and polka music. Tejano music incorporates a lot of similar roots drawn from the many Germans who settled in the area, so the music I hear in the barrio actually reminds me of home in a way. I feel a kinship with the Hispanic community through their music. It feels Polish but it's not.
Another thing... I ride a bicycle quite a bit around the city, and the smells of food cooking in the barrio is amazing. Better than the best Mexican restaurants.
And there are Mexican groceries. Nowadays most stores are full blown large supermarkets. You don't see small-to-medium grocery stores anymore. Mexican groceries are the exception. In them you'll see employees cutting the thorns off prickly pear cactus (which is actually quite a tasty vegetable), the butcher department will have whole legs of goats, hooves and all, they sell whole lengua (beef tongue). A lot of this stuff seems gross but it can be delicious if you know how to cook it.
Also, there are tamale ladies. They make tamales and sell them by the dozen. It's the kind of thing where you have to know someone, and they hook you up. Tamales are a traditional holiday food at Christmastime and that's when you see the tamale ladies the most.
Mexican food in a lot of cities is Taco Bell and On The Border, but that's nothing like some of the food you get at the good, traditional Mexican restaurants around here. The neighborhood I live in is about 2/3 Hispanic and when I'm out walking my dog, on some blocks I won't hear anyone speaking English.
Oh, and we have some pretty good soul food places too. Soul food barbecue is some of the best.
Dragonfly-fire@reddit
Oh, I love Tejano music and tamales. Ft. Worth really has it all. I grew up there, and I think the city has grown and changed a lot for the better since then. I miss the Mexican food and the BBQ. ❤️
masoleumofhope@reddit
Protect the tamale ladies at all cost. You pick up tamales from those ladies in a supermarket parking lot, a park, their garage and you know you're about to have some baller tamales.
Neuvirths_Glove@reddit
Amen.
Calm-Maintenance-878@reddit
Funny, I’m from Buffalo and stay in rural PA currently. I was on a nature trail and saw a sign to watch out for horseback riders. I haven’t actually seen it one yet but I’m waiting to be shocked lol. Outside of a random police horse in the city, you’re not seeing a horse in the city of Buffalo🤣
smartass-express@reddit
Seeing Confederate memorials in the South but little to nothing for the Union elsewhere (im from California).
ucsdFalcon@reddit
Similar story. I'm also from CA. When I visited my grandparents in Georgia I remember driving past a house that was flying a giant Confederate flag.
smartass-express@reddit
We've all rooted for a losing team before. Look at me, I'm a Seahawks fan.
ucsdFalcon@reddit
Are they the losing team though? These days it's starting to feel like they won the long game.
Pluto-Wolf@reddit
i grew up in a land of mormons, then moved to the most rural midwest town you’d ever think of.
when i moved down to phoenix (being one of the biggest cities countrywide), actually witnessing diversity & people just minding their own business was wild.
AnAppleBee@reddit
I was going to post this, except opposite. I moved from Kentucky to Utah. Utah is soooooo white that it’s almost shocking.
Pluto-Wolf@reddit
utah is SO white.
i’ve had so many debates with current citizens of utah about this, but when i lived there, it was almost all white people, all the time. besides my own family & a close friend, i didn’t really see other POC.
that’s not to say they didn’t live there, but they were few and far between throughout most of my childhood.
Romaine2k@reddit
I lived in Salt Lake in the 80s and I agree, Utah has a lot of white people and a LOT of ambient whiteness
eyetracker@reddit
3rd highest Polynesian population in the states (though still <2%). Mormonism made some inroads.
Pluto-Wolf@reddit
it might’ve been very different for when i was younger vs now, im not sure as i have yet to go back. i just remember many conversations & parts of my childhood revolving around the fact that we were definitely the exception since we’re latino 😅
eyetracker@reddit
No, it's still quite homogeneous, about 3/4 white.
AnAppleBee@reddit
Some cities are definitely more diverse than others, but over the whole majority of the state, it’s so white! The census bureau lists it as 89.8% white. I wish I could attach the picture. Everything else is 1-3%
bananapanqueques@reddit
I left Texas for (cheap) college up north and wondered why there were so many damn Anglos everywhere I looked. The big radio stations were English only. The few Latinos did not speak Spanish. White people largely only spoke English. The local Mercado was a single store and sparsely stocked. There were no quince dress stores at all, no tamaladas, and no aguas in the restaurants.
Hatweed@reddit
Not me, but I work in a beer distributor and we used to have a bunch of workers from the Deep South up here that worked for Shell building a big cracker plant and a couple of them were regulars. One day one of them, a Cajun guy from Louisiana, came in and started telling me about how he stopped at a restaurant and decided just to order a steak salad for dinner, but when they brought it out it was covered in french fries. I told him that’s normal up here, it’s called a Pittsburgh Salad. Even our burgers have fries on them.
ObsessiveAboutCats@reddit
That is horrifying.
I mean I'd rather have steak and fries without the salad, but...I'm sorry, fries on a salad? This sounds like a folktale told to tourists and gullible folks on the internet. I choose not to believe you for my peace of mind.
WinterRevolutionary6@reddit
Coming from a 98% white and East Asian high school going to university of Houston and seeing my first class with 30 hijabis. Never seen a Muslim in person before and then there’s suddenly dozens of them right there. Houston and UH are very diverse and it was eye opening. I love the diversity but it took me a couple days to get used to it 😅
WhichWitchyWay@reddit
When I moved to Austin from Houston, my mom went to the HEB near my house and came back and said "there are so many white people here" with a concerned look. My mom is a stereotypical southern WASP. It was funny, but very true
idiosyncrassy@reddit
I felt that way visiting Idaho. There were so few black people, it felt creepy. That’s saying something, considering I’m from Minnesota.
Draconuus95@reddit
lol. Honestly. I thought where I went to school in sugar land was decently multicural. And to be fair. For the majority of the country it really is. But the one year I spent at UH was definitely eye opening to see just how watered down my experience was. With most of my class mates in school being very much American. Even most of the first generation kids I knew. Meeting all the truly international students was a blast. Both by watching them try to assimilate or when they gave me a chance to see some of their own culture. Especially the food. Man I miss the food. I live in Wyoming now. And our best Mexican joint barely is better than the worst Mexican food you could find back home.
ohitsthedeathstar@reddit
Currently attend UH. Also experienced this.
himtnboy@reddit
I went to St Petes Beach from Colorado a few years ago. I could not find a store that sold microbrews within walking distance from my hotel. People looked at me like I was from another planet when I asked about a pale ale or hefeweizen or a local beer.
Pale_Organization_63@reddit
grew up and still live in utah. i could name every person who wasn’t white at my school. went to the south to visit family and was amazed that diversity actually existed. this also happened when i was like six, so forgive six year old me for being amazed at diversity.
cynical_soup20@reddit
Same here, but I come from Idaho and was probably about 10. My dad took us on a big road trip across the states.
Coolest trip I’ve ever been on, and opened my eyes to so much.
taintmaster900@reddit
People in the Midwest take their kids to chain restaurants to let babies throw food all over the damn floor and leave a huge mess everywhere. And don't even leave a tip
I'm never leaving New England again
illthrowawaysomeday@reddit
That New Yorkers really aren't that rude. They're just busy and don't really mess around.
2nd was how polite Texans are, I expected that but with some cocky texas pride mixed in.
BubblesForBrains@reddit
Going to the south and seeing a church literally every block.
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PandaPuncherr@reddit
Im from Michigan. Live in Denver.
Went to meet a client in SC at their offices. Huge company. Have TVs all around the office. All of them are playing Newsmax.
Blueribboncow@reddit
Las Vegas. When they hand you those cards with bikini girls are them. And you’re being handed this nasty card by a child sometimes!
OkTruth5388@reddit
I grew up in Las Vegas. It's not a PG 13 rated town. Sex is a main part of Vegas culture and identity.
OkTruth5388@reddit
I grew up in Las Vegas. It's not a PG 13 rated town. Sex is one of the main parts of Vegas culture and identity.
OkTruth5388@reddit
I grew up in Las Vegas. I think I'm more desensitized to sexual stuff than most people are. Sex is basically part of of Vegas culture.
Perdendosi@reddit
They don't do that anymore.
Mountain_Remote_464@reddit
I was in Las Vegas 3 weeks ago, and while I didn’t get as many as I did in 2002, I still got enough to bulk up my wallet.
Thalenia@reddit
Used to be you'd get that many getting from the front door to the street. Seems like I saw more of those hucksters than tourists some times.
(this would have been a LONG time ago, the place has changed a whole lot since the early 90s)
Blueribboncow@reddit
lol I haven’t been in probably 12 or 13 years but I’m glad it’s reduced 👍
zero_and_dug@reddit
They were doing it when I was there in 2023.
notlennybelardo@reddit
Moving to New Orleans and experiencing a city and state government so contemptuous of its people while also being impressively inept.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
I dated a guy in college who was from a small town in Louisiana, and he had nothing good to say about the state or parish governments. His small town seemed pretty crazy, too. His senior year of high school, he dated the police chief's daughter. He could drive however he wanted and never get a ticket.
VirtualMatter2@reddit
That sounds like the current US government.
omggallout@reddit
This is going to sound dumb, but when I was driving through Illinois and it was miles and miles of farmland. Just like hearing that there's farmland in New York. You never hear about the farm cities when the state has a large, bustling city.
Bastyra2016@reddit
Was traveling “up north”forget where. We did a quick trip through the BK drive through. I didn’t study the menu - just asked for a sausage biscuit-got a “what”. I’m like a sausage biscuit-after one or two more rounds I was told “we serve croissants here”-well ok then!
Curios-in-Cali@reddit
Finding out Taco Bell wasn't real Mexican food when I moved from Washington State to California lol
WitchCackleHehe@reddit
How far did you have your head up your ass to not realize that Taco Bell isn’t real Mexican food? We have so many Mexican restaurants here in WA, come on lol
anneofgraygardens@reddit
???? must be a different California than the one I'm familiar with.
Vast-Comment8360@reddit
Moving from the North to the South, it was a big culture shock to be around people who arearen't erable.
omggallout@reddit
My dad, when he first moved to Arkansas from Michigan, was sitting at a stop sign for a long moment, looking at a map. When he put the map down, there was a guy waiting patiently behind him, never making a sound 🤣🤣 In Michigan, the guy would have laid on his horn within a matter of seconds, or aggressively roared right past him. Makes me want to move to the South. I need that calmness in my life.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Same with NJ to the midwest, if it wasn't so cold there id move there. People are so much less miserable outside of the northeast
NoMonk8635@reddit
Long ago on a road trip to Arizona when route 66 was disappearing 1/2 freeway 1/2 route 66 took an exit to get gas and the town was all Adobe with hitching posts, was like driving thru a movie set... there were Sombreros, no horses but was surreal
ObsessiveAboutCats@reddit
I am from Texas. Lived here my whole life.
Some years ago I flew to upstate New York to visit a friend. We were driving somewhere and passed through a small backroads town (the one where the whole town is basically on the highway).
They had Confederate flags EVERYWHERE. Flying from poles. Hanging from porches. Flying from trees. Plenty of houses had two or more flags.
I really did not expect that. My friend flatly refused to discuss it.
West_Coast-BestCoast@reddit
Why you all wearing your shoes in the house.
Champsterdam@reddit
?? I don’t know anyone who wears shoes in the house. That’s in the Midwest. Regardless of my family, friends, in-laws, coworkers. Shoes off at the front door is a no brainer.
West_Coast-BestCoast@reddit
I heartily agree! I wonder if it’s regional.
CAAugirl@reddit
I don’t get it either. I have to take mine off even if I’m running inside for a minute or two.
ssk7882@reddit
The first time someone in the south asked me, totally out of nowhere: "What church do you go to?"
I grew up in the northeast, where that is simply not considered a polite thing to ask a stranger out of the blue. Not least because assuming that any random stranger you meet must be a Christian would in and of itself be considered kind of rude.
MarbleousMel@reddit
About how mundane news (to me) can be a front page headline for a newspaper that covers the entire state.
My ex and I were in Wyoming for his brother’s graduation. We flew into Denver and drove to Laramie. On one our stops, I noticed the statewide newspaper had a headline that Casper was getting a third Starbucks.
I lived in Texas which has three cities on the top 10 largest cities of the US, and I have traveled extensively since then, including to very rural locations. That headline still blows my mind.
lawanddisorderr@reddit
My sister worked on a ranch in Wyoming one summer & when we visited, my dad got a speeding ticket. The next week she sent him a copy of the newspaper with a story about Man from NJ Speeds Through Wyoming, lol.
Kevincelt@reddit
For me, coming from around Chicago/Great Lakes area, it was probably visiting Meridian, Mississippi. The impact of Baptist and evangelical Protestantism on the culture made it feel a bit foreign since I have more Jewish relatives than baptist or evangelical relatives and I’m a cradle Catholic. Wonderful nice people and did appreciate how many people integrate their faith positively into their lives, just felt like a different culture. Felt more foreign than Ontario to me.
Courtaud@reddit
just hearing regional accents.
pulled off the highway to get food in west virginia once and the cashier, this poor young black girl, hit me with the most sweet, hilltop West Virginian accent i'd ever heard in my life i almost laughed in her face. i genuinely thought she was joking, i'd never heard someone speak with a swing like that outside TV. i thought it WAS a tv accent.
my world was a lot smaller than i thought it was.
DrMindbendersMonocle@reddit
Dry counties
lawanddisorderr@reddit
Moving from NJ to MD for college and seeing people with confederate flags in their dorm room (almost 20yrs ago). I suddenly became very aware I had crossed the Mason-Dixon Line, which I never even thought about living in (a pretty diverse part of) NJ. It proceeded to be significantly more racist than anywhere I had been before.
EnoughBar7026@reddit
Ontario guy here, within 45 mins (Kingston to Watertown area for camping) hit to barriers, 1 was they didn’t know what serviettes were at subway, asked a coworker “do we sell serviettes?”, pulled into the campground (buddy and I were 21 and wanted to party in a bay, for those northern New Yorkers you know. And it was dusk and had to take a leak and asked where the washroom was, she said “good luck, it’s up the road and won’t open til 8am”, I could use the woods but my jaw dropped. Apparently washroom was taken as doing laundry. In Canada it’s = to restroom. Literally 45 min drive from home + boarder lol. Little culture shock within an hour.
CheezitCheeve@reddit
The way I say egg still annoys everyone in Texas
Highway49@reddit
I moved from the Bay Area to Minnesota for college football, and by November it gets so cold that the mud and dirt literally FREEZE! I went out there in my long cleats because it had been raining and the field was super muddy for a few weeks — however, it was like I was wearing my cleats on asphalt, I was sliding all over the place on the frozen field! Luckily the equipment guy got me some turf shoes and I was better. But it was at that moment I realized why fake grass and indoor stadiums exists lol!
thatoneguyfromva@reddit
My first trip to NYC many years ago and realizing how loud most people spoke.
Modman75@reddit
When you have that many people living in such a relatively small area, the sound of the infrastructure alone is noisy. Add all the people going about their days and the noise is just amplified. New Yorkers talk loud because they have to if they want to be heard lol
Relative-Score4688@reddit
New Yorkers??? Loud??? Never😂😂😂
Bad2bBiled@reddit
From Northern California it was driving in the DMV area and seeing people back up on the freeway when they missed their exit.
Also the way men there would watch other men being really rude to women without intervening. It was always another woman who stepped in. This was the early 2000s, so IDK if it’s still the same.
In Portland it’s the way that people will let you merge into traffic. Willingly. It’s contagious and I don’t hate it. 😂
eyetracker@reddit
Portland has the most aggressive drivers in Oregon. That's a relative comparison.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Yeah that sounds about right for the DC area, in my experience those drivers down there are the worst in the whole country.
HairyDadBear@reddit
NYC: The subway system. I also wasn't prepare for the amount of WALKING. College campus was nothing compared to walking in NYC.
Vegas: Might as well just be another society. Women out with barely covered titties. Random performers. Regular food chains seemingly metasized. Surprisingly walkable on the strip. Public drinking. People trying to sell you something. There's a charm to it that make it different than other touristy places.
SmokedPapfreaka@reddit
Honestly, vacationing in Hawaii and feeling how much I wasn’t wanted/welcome there by locals. Granted, we don’t like to go to resorts and went to a VERY local part of Oahu. We were quiet, clean and respectful and never had any confrontations, but I felt bad even being there. It shouldn’t be ours anymore than Canada. Fuck greed.
MajesticBread9147@reddit
As somebody from Virginia:
Visiting Charlotte, Las Vegas and Phoenix and not being able to easily use public transit even in cities. I always assumed that the "car dependent" rest of the country was just the suburbs, and surely the cities at least have it figured out? But like, not being able to get to a mall by bus was shocking.
The question "which church do y'all go to?" as one of the first questions people ask you in rural North Carolina.
cinnamoogoo@reddit
Visiting Texas from California years ago and learned what a “dry county” was. I was blown away that there are whole towns that won’t serve any alcohol.
ThatGirl_Tasha@reddit
I grew up in the south west ( Las Vegas) in the 70s and 80s.
I moved to the DC area for a short time when I was in my 20s. I asked someone the time and they ignored me. I had never had that happen. And when I held the doors open for the next person to catch sometimes they'd walk right through and not say than you.
Wild stuff
Champsterdam@reddit
Driving through rural areas of the Deep South and seeing the extreme poverty all around was completely mind blowing. We went into a few grocery stores and people just stared and looked so destitute.
peaveyftw@reddit
I went to New Mexico and they were playing country music, and me as a southern boy, I'm thinkin', hot damn! Aside from ABQ and Santa Fe these people are pretty normal.
Except them in Artesia, they smelled like gas. Ain't their fault, I know, just saying. Keep your winders up.
MihalysRevenge@reddit
Lol yeah that tracks Burque isn't normal and Santa Fe is a bit extra lol
peaveyftw@reddit
Sante Fe and old town ABQ are pretty, but ABQ on the whole was.....something else. Almost got hit twice just driving into Duke City from Cruces.
chriswaco@reddit
Stone Mountain, Georgia, felt like a place where The Civil War hasn't ended. Nothing but pickup trucks with gun racks in the parking lot too.
Relative-Score4688@reddit
Grew up in NYC, go to college in Texas. The way people interact is extremely different in the south than the northeast.
It feels like people notice each other more, for better or worse. Southern people are definitely more likely to hold the door open or smile at you, but also more judgy and more concerned with other people’s business. I found it odd how performative people’s interactions feel.
Also, the way cities are built. Southern cities feel more like someone plopped a few skyscrapers in the middle of the suburbs than an actual city.
Draconuus95@reddit
Many city’s in the south had very little urban planning until long after they started getting big. Often at a ridiculously rapid pace. It’s why so many of them feel like a hodge podge of jigsaw city pieces instead of having a more structured setup.
Hypnox88@reddit
Going to racist filled small towns. Even as a white guy, I very quickly passed through a few cities that flew flags and other things that showed their true colors.
koknbals@reddit (OP)
As a Latino I’m surprised this didn’t cross my mind. Haha I worked out in Casper, Wy for a bit and will never forget seeing a flag that unmistakably represented to the Aryan “brotherhood” hung up on someone’s garage…
rileyoneill@reddit
If you ever want to go down a rabbit hole check out Sarah Paine and her lectures on history. She brings up in one of her talks about how the Civil War was really the state of the American identity. Americans were not well traveled up until that point (keep in mind, this is still a time before both trains and cars). People considered themselves more of a region/state than an 'American'. But when they were mobilized for the Civil War that changed and the whole American identity started to emerge. Our common American Identity really got kicked off with that.
That identity built itself up from the 1860s to WW2. Now the descendants of all those people were fighting together, as Americans. While they all sort of had the White guy commonality, now they are in the trenches with Blacks and Mexicans (1 in 30 or so US soldiers in WW2 was of Mexican ancestry, this might have been the first time White guys met Mexican dudes in their lives). Lots of these dudes would have been openly casually racist, but fighting a war still bonds people. That should have been it, there was no longer a Confederate American.
The confederate people are so weird, because their mentality is anti-American. These people don't identity with American society. Why these people are not overly shunned by the patriots in society is beyond me. Its weird that they dwell on their ancestors 160 years ago who stood on the wrong side of history when they could stand with their descendants from 80 years ago stood on the right side of history.
AwkwarsLunchladyHugs@reddit
Just so you know, we aren't all like that out here. Sadly, there is an issue though.
koknbals@reddit (OP)
Oh I know, my experience was mainly positive in Casper. Strangers were extremely nice for the most part :)
Relative-Score4688@reddit
Yea, this shocked me. Driving in rural East Texas once and saw a Confederate Flag flying off the highway, and I thought my eyes had to be lying to me.
Tejanisima@reddit
Just the one?
source: mom is from East Texas and we grew up visiting regularly from Dallas
Relative-Score4688@reddit
Yes, in some small town outside of Tyler. This was very recent so maybe there’s less of a (public) influence now.
Tejanisima@reddit
My mom's teeny-tiny, no-longer-officially-a-town hometown is just 30 miles from there. Her younger sister lives in a suburb (pop. 6000) of Longview.
Marvos79@reddit
I live on the West Coast. I come from a white Southern family, and I visited them in Tennessee for the first time in my adult life about ten years ago. The stuff they said about "those people" at the dinner table made my toes curl. My brother and I were the only ones not raised in Tennessee, and he was half on their side anyway. So I said nothing.
Maveragical@reddit
chicago burbs to Michigan's UP. completely different flavor of white, and frankly, deeply upsetting
Athos-1844@reddit
The Deep Southern states. Everyone moves at the speed of molasses. It takes forever to get anything done. I've lived in the Northeast and Southwest. Both areas are twice as fast paced as the South.
OkTruth5388@reddit
I grew in the southwest. I'm used to the culture of this part of the USA. But when I traveled to New York City for the first time, it was so strange. New York feels like another country. It has a different vibe. It's also freezing.
Ordinary_Bank557@reddit
I'm from Milwaukee. When I visited Portland, I was surprised that gas station workers actually pump gas for you--I believe that you can't pump your own gas there? 😀
Also, drivers in the Pacific Northwest seem more laid-back than drivers in Wisconsin.
Annie-Snow@reddit
That changed recently. Stations are now supported to have half and half. As an Oregonian, I’m annoyed. It was all the people from out of state that pushed for that change.
sickostrich244@reddit
Moving to Utah and well... Mormons
NecessaryPopular1@reddit
None, no culture shock in the US, have seen it all and continue seeing. It is what it is.
Glum-System-7422@reddit
People in Pittsburgh are short. I was 5’10 in my shoes and at a packed stadium, only a handful of people were taller than me.
People on the East Coast take sandwiches seriously. They order sandwiches for dinner, whereas everyone I know on the West Coast treat sandwiches like a to-go meal
koknbals@reddit (OP)
As someone who’s 5’5, looks like The Burgh is the city for me. Lol
Glum-System-7422@reddit
If you like a killer skyline and weird pizza, it’s definitely for you!
Prestigious-Web4824@reddit
In 1954, my mother and I took a train from Philadelphia to Miami to visit my grandparents. While on a trip to the local supermarket, I was scolded for getting a drink of water from a fountain that I failed to notice the COLORED sign on.
goingfrank@reddit
Miami, as a whole, honestly.
Foreign-Marzipan6216@reddit
I moved to Southern California from the Midwest when I was in my early 20’s, and the culture shock was huge. Like a different country. Everything was so expensive and I had t done research on that so I had to work two jobs. Also, I was used to being friendly and welcoming with everyone, and it being reciprocated. Social stuff came easy.
There, I’d have a conversation with someone, and next time I saw them again I said hi. They looked at me like they’d never seen me before. It was so weird. This happened a few times.
And I learned that if someone says maybe, it means no. People were more standoffish and stay within their cliques. It took awhile to make friends, but they are still my friends decades later.
I also experienced the first active sabotage of my job by someone who was worried about theirs. I learned to do the opposite of what was suggested. People are so cutthroat. It was a really difficult adjustment but I got smarter, but also more cynical and untrusting. Hard lessons when one is young.
I also was amazed at how many families did cool stuff together. Just going snowboarding and surfing with their parents, or hiking in the wilderness. My childhood was so boring and I felt cheated lol.
zero_and_dug@reddit
Growing up in the suburbs of Dallas and Austin, and traveling to a very small town (700 people) in Tennessee to visit some of my extended family for the first time. Everyone had very thick accents, and clearly lived a very different life in such a small town.
I remember one relative and her young adult age kids were just hanging out in their carport when we pulled up. It made an impression on me because I was in college at the time and used to being go-go-go and surrounded by a diverse group of people. And these young people were isolated in this small town with probably not many opportunities for them.
I remember feeling thankful that my grandparents had moved an hour and a half away from that town to the city of Memphis for better opportunities back in the 40’s. It set my branch of the family on a brighter trajectory.
Miserable-Lawyer-233@reddit
I've lived in a very white state in the north all my life, then I flew into Atlanta.
MihalysRevenge@reddit
East texas right before the state line. Stopped at a Burger King right off the highway, my brown ass walks into a restaurant full of all white bikers with Totenkopf and Schutzstaffel on their jackets and can feel all of them staring at me and the whole place going silent. I turned right around and told the wife in kids in the car "nope were not eating here let hit the highway"
KonaKumo@reddit
Californian...traveling east and noticing the quality of fresh fruit declining quickly.... it is easy to forget living here that, most of the fruits in the stores are probably less than a week since being picked.
Tomatoes and strawberries are the most obvious for this
kobayashi_maru_fail@reddit
Flew into Mobile. Was on high alert the whole time I was there worrying the “morbid” in morbid obesity was going to hit someone at any time. I mentally prepped for race issues before going, but it wasn’t that at all, everyone was suffering equally and together.
You may have experienced our weird, we actually do say “the mountain’s out” and wear Birkenstocks.
Sabertooth767@reddit
Going from an ABC state to bourbon land was an experience.
Even the damned ice cream store sells liquor!
Tejanisima@reddit
My North Carolina niece came to Dallas to visit when she was maybe 12 or so, and while our liquor laws here are known for being pretty rigid and uptight, it's still blew her mind that there were privately-owned liquor stores with big signs out front that said "liquor" — "Aren't they worried they're going to get caught?!"
For anyone outside the US hanging out in the sub to read what Americans have to say: in a few states, only government-owned stores can sell hard liquor / spirits. In North Carolina, these stores are run by the Alcoholic Beverage Commission and have big signs that say "ABC."
ChapterOk4000@reddit
Native NYer here. First time south of the Mason-Dixon line on a road trip to Florida was a huge shock. I mean, I'd seen Deliverance but I didn't realize it was real.
1029394756abc@reddit
The homelessness of San Francisco.
And while I haven’t personally been to this one, the videos of Kensington Pennsylvania haunt me.
TheRealRollestonian@reddit
I did not like the New Jersey Turnpike at all. I grew up in Virginia, which is populated. But, all the weird one-way roads that seemed to go everywhere and nowhere at the same time confused the fuck out of me.
I checked in at a hotel in the evening, then went to find food, and literally couldn't find my way back. I had to get a second room. Fortunately, I didn't bring in my luggage.
itds@reddit
Native midwesterner here. Visiting South Texas as a young man and discovering how solidly Hispanic the Valley is. Such warm and hospitable people! I’ve gone back many times since.
HerdingYaps@reddit
The state of Missouri. All of it. The state, the people, the climate, the contdition - and I even love some of the people dearly. It's just another world that tends to induce my panic attacks.
UrLittleVeniceBitch_@reddit
I moved from the northeast (suburbs of nyc) to the Bay Area and was SHOCKED to find out how many people liked to go camping for fun.
I mean I love day hiking but camping looks and sounds miserable to me and suddenly it was everyone I know’s weekend plans
PossibleJazzlike2804@reddit
I moved to a smaller town in a different state and it felt like it was the mid 90s. Online ordering wasn't a thing. No door dash. Stores closed between 6-8pm. There was a video rental store on the main street. This was in 2020.
RGV_KJ@reddit
Biggest culture shock was moving from San Francisco to Louisville KY.
dvoryanin@reddit
But, your flair is New Jersey...?
Extension-Scarcity41@reddit
Either driving thru Pensacola Fl, and realizing that just outside of the few blocks of downtown with office buildings, the city was surrounded by tar paper shotgun shacks, or driving out to the indian reservation at the end of the Olympic peninsula at La Push, and seeing this tiny convenience store with a bunch or posters on the outside warning about the dangers of huffing paint and glue to get high.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Probably the Swaminarayan Akshardham up in North Jersey, its like being in India without needing to get on an airplane
AmmoSexualBulletkin@reddit
Iowa has several Sikh temples. Grew up here and didn't find that out until I was in my 20's.
Next closest would be seeing North Carolina basically shut down for, by my standards, a light frost. You could tell who was used to driving in winter. They weren't driving like the roads had turned to ice.
AToastedRavioli@reddit
What a great question. As a Midwest guy that’s seen the rest of the country, I think the thing that struck me as craziest was what our snowbound people put up with just to go to work. And I learned that from my gaming buddy in Minnesota, he’d bitch about how much earlier he’d get up for work just to free his car. And now as an adult with responsibilities I totally get it