Plane makes emergency landing at Arlington (TX) Municipal Airport

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vpoko@reddit

I didn't think they pre-foamed runways anymore.

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They really shouldn't. The slickness of foam makes it harder to predict where it will end up if landing side-loaded or any angle, an ARFF truck has now used some/all it's foam that could've been used on an actual fire if needed, the environmental impacts/paperwork/clean up, and health implications for those that have to walk through it, and delays opening up the runway.

As a Airside Ops Duty Manager a few years ago, we had an aircraft request foam before landing gear up. ARFF sprayed foam around the touchdown zone. The pilot landed well before the foam and e actually never reached it. We had the aircraft removed within 45 minutes, but because there was foam on the runway and we had to call out hazmat team, the runway remained closed for almost 4 hours. And I had TRACON calling me asking why the runway was still closed every 30 minutes.

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kent814@reddit

Are you a pilot? If not, not sure how you are saying they shouldnt request foam just because its a hassle for an airport manager. Its PIC decision to do whatever is in the interest of the safety of flight.

Scraping metal along concrete with fuel stored inside that metal can be a bad day

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Sharin_the_Groove@reddit

Former Ops Manager. Full agree.

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Ficsit-Incorporated@reddit

For airliners, they don’t. It really depends on aircraft type and pilot’s request, which the airport can choose to accept or deny depending on their infrastructure and procedures.

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glhaynes@reddit

What's the logic behind it being based on pilot's request? Why would they have the best knowledge of what to do in this circumstance? Seems like there'd be a standard procedure. (I have lots of confidence that the policy is good, just curious because this seems counterintuitive to ignorant me.)

Why not for airliners? I assume it's considered to hurt more than it helps for them?

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CollegeStation17155@reddit

Probably not enough foam available for a bigger plane that will slide further (possibly all the way off the end of the runway).

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Ficsit-Incorporated@reddit

I’m speculating, but it may be that pilots are near universally trusted to know what’s best for the aircraft in an emergency. When Sully started the APU rather than follow the very standardized and well thought out emergency procedures, US Airways and Airbus both not only commended his actions but tacitly agreed with his assessment that following the checklist exactly would have resulted in fatalities.

Again, I’m speculating, but the general consensus in the industry seems to be that pilots are allowed to make their own decisions in emergency situations as long as they turn out to be right when the investigation is over. On the other hand, if they deviate from procedures and the outcome is worsened because of it, they’ll only be remembered as the pilot who panicked and potentially got people killed. It’s high risk/high reward.

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CollegeStation17155@reddit

There’s a saying in the military; “Never second guess the boots on the ground.” Yes, the PIC sometimes makes a disastrous mistake, but more often than not, they get it right.

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BIKF@reddit

Regardless of whether the pilot know what is best, the pilot is ultimately responsible for the safety of the flight. That responsibility alone is a decent reason for letting the pilot decide.

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usmcmech@reddit

For airliners, they are too heavy and "roll out" is too long for it to make any difference.

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aftcg@reddit

Well, that's one way to get new engines and props. Still tho, great landing.

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Professional_Act_820@reddit

Looking closely...I think he actually got the engines stopped before the props hit the ground.

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aftcg@reddit

Looking closelyer, nope, them props is fukt.

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Professional_Act_820@reddit

No shit...I said engines

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aftcg@reddit

Therefore the engines are borked. Prop strike like that is a teardown IRAN at the least.

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Professional_Act_820@reddit

I'm arguing with a 12 year old over speculation.

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aftcg@reddit

Lol IKR? From an insurance adjuster position, they'll quickly realize that this is an inmotion claim, with prop strike, and they'll gladly reference Continental SB96-11B: A propeller strike is: (1) any incident, whether or not the engine is operating, that requires repair to the propeller other than minor dressing of the blades as set forth in Part I, B of this Service Bulletin

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Marklar_RR@reddit

Not sure what is smoother, landing or the camera. It's tracking the plane perfectly.

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crewsctrl@reddit (OP)

News chopper gimbals are like magic.

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Flowing_North@reddit

Beautiful execution

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BIKF@reddit

I give it a 4 out of 5. The landing was great, but if I’m evacuating in front of a TV camera I would probably try to set a good example by leaving my luggage behind.

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Scrota1969@reddit

Never heard of foam used before today, is it to slow the aircraft?

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thalianas@reddit

Fire retardant

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Scrota1969@reddit

Makes sense thanks

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asdfoneplusone@reddit

What model ga twin plane?

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Chinpokomonnnn@reddit

Butter

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StinkyMulder@reddit

So greasy!

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blizzue@reddit

Textbook.

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Neuvirths_Glove@reddit

Beautiful landing.

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BrianWantsTruth@reddit

Flawless foam placement, damn. Ground crew and pilot both get credit for doing their jobs perfectly.

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doozerman@reddit

This honestly impressed me most. The landing was fantastic but I couldn’t get over how they almost perfectly touched at the start of the foam and stopped right after

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red08171@reddit

It's nice that the plane got to play on the slip-on-slide. Good thing he didn't have to get hit by the sprinklers!

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Whirlwind_AK@reddit

Fuckin fire trucks are a day late and a dollar short….

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HawkDriver@reddit

Do you recommend they be parked closer so when the plane veers off course there are extra casualties? Good call…

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casualdogiscasual@reddit

interesting that they dusted off the runway foam for this one! and somehow exactly calculated where to start and stop it. Impressive!

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qaf0v4vc0lj6@reddit

At a minimum it was good training for the fire crews. Expensive training, but still good nonetheless.

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cmrtopher@reddit

That goes to show how thorough these guys are with safety both in air and on the ground.

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gimp2x@reddit

Bravo, great job by all

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Ficsit-Incorporated@reddit

Looked like a very controlled and professionally executed gear-up emergency landing to me.