Junior IT member is growing up.
Posted by Otto-Korrect@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 88 comments
Just felt like a proud parent today and had to post.
We have a Jr. IT person that was hired about a year ago. He'd never working anything but level 1 helpdesk before, and we threw him into the deep end of more advanced issues and tickets. He's been picking things up really quickly.
Well, today we had a problem that stumped all 3 other IT/sysadmin staff and after a few moments of pondering he offered a solution that worked!
I feel like a proud parent watching my youngest grow up. I feel like I should go out and buy him a cake or something.
yawn1337@reddit
I'm currently on the other end and that feels amazing too. Went through training and then the client support dude jumped ship so they kept me and I filled. Doing more and more project work with a senior sysadmin who trained me now and with our new firewall we have this running theme where he sometimes gets stuck on a problem for a few days n then I jump in and fix it and go "if you need to know anything else abt the firewall just ask"
ToddlerWithComplxToy@reddit
When that is done with a "teamwork" or "brother-in-arms" vibe (which I'm assuming it is in this case), it encourages both parties. When I've been the junior on a team and as a senior, knowing someone is pulling WITH me or standing shoulder-to-shoulder is energizing.
denimadept@reddit
Hah!
Automatic_Mulberry@reddit
Depending on your relationship with the guy, definitely buy him a coffee/coke/tea or take him out for a Friday beer. But tell him you're proud of him and his good thinking.
Please, as an oldhead, express your appreciation early and often.
zesar667@reddit
I had that happen to me from a senior just the other day. It really does break a barrier to hear those words
NoelCanter@reddit
Man, coming up in my IT career nothing ever got the juices flowing more than just people acknowledging my work when I solved a really complex problem.
ToddlerWithComplxToy@reddit
One of my favorite quotes is "I can live for two months on a good compliment." -Mark Twain
I can remember sincere compliments given to me years ago by coworkers. When I'm leading a meeting that is circling the drain, I can recall that compliment after some past meeting, give myself a pass, and move on.
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
Oh I did. And I brought up his name in a higher level meeting later that day when I was letting people know the problem had been resolved.
wonderbreadlofts@reddit
Now they will think you can be replaced for half the salary, lol.
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
My real concern is that we don't pay a ton, and I'm worried he might get good enough and leave us for greener pastures. :( I don't have control over that part and HR doesn't get it.
TheFluffiestRedditor@reddit
That's graduation, and is another wonderful feeling.
Ur-Best-Friend@reddit
Wait, so you didn't take credit for his accomplishments? You're clearly not leadership material. /s
OutOfNoMemory@reddit
Make sure he knows you did that too.
h8mac4life@reddit
That’s great, my jackass boss just takes credit for everything and rarely shows up.
Automatic_Mulberry@reddit
OK, good, thank you. I am working on my own recognition skills lately, so I'm glad your junior guy got ups in front of managers.
Likma_sack@reddit
*cola
Automatic_Mulberry@reddit
In the US South, coke just means "soft drink."
Drew707@reddit
That explains the bizarre experience I had in that ATL club.
ntrlsur@reddit
I've had some experiences in ATL clubs but it didn't involve any soft drinks.
XCOMGrumble27@reddit
No, I'm pretty sure that only applies in Georgia specifically. It's definitely a regional term.
scriptmonkey420@reddit
THIS.
When I was just learning I never got any appreciation for the hard work I put in. It was always a "well, whats next?"
Murky-Prof@reddit
Coke? Seems a little much here!
EmberGlitch@reddit
A whole can of it, too? In this economy?
dj_shenannigans@reddit
Well he's proud! Can't cheap out and go with street crack
Drew707@reddit
No coke until the IPO. Once we IPO, we'll have Snowflake money.
No_Safe6200@reddit
Offering him a line sounds a bit OTT...
/s
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
Seriously. There's hardly enough for the Sr. IT staff as it is!
OrangeTrees2000@reddit
What was the IT issue, and how was it fixed?
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
Can't really give details, we are a bank and any details on this particular incident and the fix may be a security risk.
506c616e7473@reddit
Congratulations and don't buy a cake, give him an extra day off.
Looking for one for three years and not one moves out of support, because they're unable to google or grasp basic network rules/rfcs.
IB768@reddit
100% give the dude some flowers but be careful about hard gifts for every job well done. Expectation management is also a thing. If the dude is underpaid for the work he is doing, stump for a raise. But every time you do good at your job you don’t get a damn prize. Your trophy is that payroll check. Not throwing shade just been in the business for almost 25 years and seen all sides of it, run rate tech, sysadmin, management and ownership. A spiff for every problem solved leads to entitlement. No upside for going above and beyond and they plateau or bounce. Find a happy medium.
506c616e7473@reddit
A job well done is a compliment and maybe a lunch, sure.
A new Jr. found a fast solution for something his three seniors were stumped about and might have cost the company a few bucks. That is not just a job well done. I'm a senior and if a Jr. would pull something like that on me I would be thrilled as fuck, give him is earned day off while thinking about how to fast track/properly train him + raise.
illanetswitch@reddit
The prize, in fact, should be MORE work /s
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
regaining remote access to a server that we didn't have physical access to. Our VPN to it had gone down, and we had no other way to reach it to diagnose what was going on.
I won't detail the fix, since we are a bank and giving out too much info would be a security risk!
Bird_SysAdmin@reddit
my wild guesses, EDR has shell access option
jpm0719@reddit
Idrac or ilo depending on vendor
Frothyleet@reddit
He mentions a bank, so possibly he organized a team of unique personalities and skillsets to heist their way into the vault where the server was stored.
SoonerMedic72@reddit
"I'm in"
phxor@reddit
can confirm, worked at large bank and putting together a heist crew was just part of the daily grind. Everybody knows 60% is putting together the crew and 40% revealing you already gained access to the mdf
slylte@reddit
defender's EDR solution allows you to upload arbitrary powershell scripts, pretty handy
wish they'd just give you a real shell, though
506c616e7473@reddit
He either found a cross connection or a patched ipmi interface?
Alternative-Yak1316@reddit
Yes via a VM probably.
Darth_Malgus_1701@reddit
I'm fucking around with VMware shit and I have been googling shit left and right. What do you think the problem is with your L1 guys? Is it a skill or laziness issue?
xcalvirw@reddit
Its glad to see someone under our care grown up and become a great system admin. Give him the appreciation he deserves, it will boost his confidence.
samuelt525@reddit
My manager just nitpicks, cause he’s fucking shit at the job.
Coffee_Ops@reddit
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Razorray21@reddit
I love this feeling as a Sr tech and now a manager.
When a tech you mentor finally gets their legs and is able to stand on their own and troubleshoot effectively.
Podalirius@reddit
The fact this even needed to be posted is depressing. We all started somewhere. This whole mentality that the newbies can't learn is total bullshit.
Smiles_OBrien@reddit
I recently moved up to SysAdmin from Building Tech at my school district. The person we hired as my successor is definitely green and has a long way to go, but has been kicking ass and taking names, and it's been glorious to watch. When I was trained him, I was very clear with "This is how I did it. Keep what works, throw out what doesn't." and he's being taking that to heart. Very proud of him, tackling things in ways I either never thought to or didn't have the bandwidth to do, especially in taking the initiative in setting boundaries regarding student shenanigans with their chromebooks. Very excited to see him continue to learn and make the space his own.
Vinboose@reddit
Nice to see a nice post in here! I feel like I see a lot more people complaining on Reddit than actually taking pride in the profession. You sound like an excellent team member.
StatisticianOne8287@reddit
The best thing here, isn’t just that he’s grown and you’ve help, but you’ve fostered an environment where he’s comfortable to offer up his thoughts to the old heads. Well done to you both!
SAW1L@reddit
I feel junior and I have a mentor too. He always pointing where should I get better and does not give me any solutions, he makes me thing and search.
I’m proud that I’m 2 years I learned a lot.
I work on prem and I already looking for remote jobs and more challenges.
Also my mentor encourages me to search for it. He works for veeam.
heapsp@reddit
I am a mentor to the younger less experienced people too, but its usually just trying to get them to understand how broken capitalism is and why the board of directors wants some specific piece of technology even though it does nothing for us, and how to appease them.
SAW1L@reddit
Indeed !
Here in the company they give me freedom to do what I think is the best to do. Also they do not control the apps that I use to do my work or the open source I have to help me in other ways.
Pretend_Sock7432@reddit
As everybody else wrote, perfect :). Now, he needs to shutdown something in production ;)
Ok-Guide680@reddit
Good job.
Giriksx@reddit
Junior guy here who also has been working in the company exactly 1 year! Similar to your junior, my previous experience was only Helpdesk.
I am really happy to hear about your both success – when he is learning new things and you are like a "big brother" to him, and his success is also your success. I really appreciate it and I can hope that at some point I will have a big brother like you are.
My senior colleague is showing up in the office only once a month, mostly ignoring my messages and my calls, and this is a tough way to learn. :)
IvyIdeal@reddit
BloodFeastMan@reddit
I love hearing stories like this, and I'll add one .. One of our best TS guys (I'm in dev) was a forklift driver about twenty years ago that loved to come in and ask questions. :)
McGarnacIe@reddit
It's always a curious mind that can succeed in a variety of fields.
CelestialFury@reddit
Inner curiosity is how I know if someone will not only succeed, but excel as well.
BloodFeastMan@reddit
The company likes to get tier 1 people from within as well, there has been more than that they've sent to school and moved up. Works for everyone, the company gets a dedicated employee, and the employee gets an opportunity that may otherwise have been out of their reach.
sumZy@reddit
what was the solution?
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
We're a bank and security is important. Describing the problem and fix in any detail would be a needless risk.
chillvibes2020@reddit
Typical sysadmin post - posting about a problem, but not including the solution.
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
Like Ive said earlier, we are a bank and giving away any details just has no upside for security.
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
Like Ive said earlier, we are a bank and giving away any details just has no upside for security.
RegisHighwind@reddit
Take him out for lunch and let him know how proud you are! The guys that were in my position before me did this for me and I'll be forever thankful. Made me love my job and made me even more excited when I was handed the torch.
rx-pulse@reddit
I was in the same boat years ago and thankfully had good seniors who taught me well. I'm now the senior and it feels good when the newbie/intern grows and does better. Conversely, I've seen how shitty other teams are and how so many interns/grad hires just leave or feel like they learn nothing because the other teams just do a disservice in training them. I've legit had interns/new hires go to me for on-boarding help because their team is so worthless and I feel bad for them...
I'm glad you gave them the recognition they deserve and celebrate his successes! It definitely motivates them to always deliver and provide good quality work. Something sadly, a lot of companies and people fail to do.
FlaccidRazor@reddit
It teams are based on mutual respect, give that guy the respect he's due.
Ok_Addition9588@reddit
He’s lucky to have you guys, my senior coworkers overlook or disregard my solutions only to circle back and present them as their own 😔
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
I HATE that with a passion and it has happened to me in more than one job, which is why I go so far in the other direction.
I've called people out on it and gotten "oh, I forgot who's idea it had been, I thought it was mine. No big deal, right?'.
Darth_Malgus_1701@reddit
Good! Break the cycle!
HumbertoR15@reddit
I dream of having such an opportunity. Kudos to you for being a great mentor.
QuietCdence@reddit
This is awesome! He's still green enough to think outside the box. I hope he holds onto that skill.
skydivinfoo@reddit
From a PFY to a budding BOFH - Always love to hear stories like this!
FerryCliment@reddit
I did some mentoring myself, and the absolute highlight of my profesional career was when my mentee got couple cool certifications even before I did myself.
Eventually I matched him , but wasn't nearly as proud of my own certifications comapred how I felt when he aced the examns.
epsiblivion@reddit
I was expecting him to have his first prod outage but this is better
Fabulous-Farmer7474@reddit
Very cool!
Ok_Information3286@reddit
That’s such a great feeling—watching someone grow into their potential like that is one of the most rewarding parts of the job. It says a lot about your team too, creating the kind of environment where a junior can step up and shine. Definitely sounds like a keeper—cake sounds well-deserved!
Hgh43950@reddit
What was the issue?
Zozorak@reddit
Need more people being encouraging people just starting out. When I first started, i always felt proud to figure something difficult out. Getting reassurance early on that I was doing good job kept me going.
In my msp days I didn't get jack from the team. Didn't like that place at all.
MadMaverickMatthew@reddit
I love it when this happens!
nowinter19@reddit
Awesome!!!
SkyrakerBeyond@reddit
This was me a few years back. I'd always done informal IT fixing for family and friends, and I went to school for a network support cert that never really manifested into a job until I went to a job support charity that helped me get this job. They basically threw me in the deep end- ostensibly I work on helpdesk, but we're a small org so I have to fix things considerably deeper than a malfunctioning word doc- firewalls, vpn tunnels, servers, etc. As is tradition, I knocked a production environment down on my third week on the job post training, learned from it, moved on, and these days have become a core team member and am often relied upon by my boss and coworkers to solve things that stump everyone else.
My greatest strength is probably being able to pattern match my way to solving stuff- picking up bits and pieces, researching online, and putting solutions together that other people just don't have the mindset for. All the time I get asked- 'Skyraker how did you figure out X, I googled it and couldn't find anything' and I'm looking at my notes and really I just googled it, discarded all the results that were off topic, opened three tabs, tried the solutions there, filtered my search results based on what didn't work, found some old post on a 10 year old forum that said a similar issue was fixed by installing this software from the vendor that isn't offered anymore, go on archive.org and check if they have it- if they do, great, if they don't, reach further in my bag of tricks to find the program (sometimes contacting vendors), get a copy of the software, run it in our test environment, it fixes everything great! document the fix and deploy, get things up and working.
You just gotta have persistence and drive to keep at an issue until you find a fix. Most anything, the fix is out there online. And when it isn't, don't be afraid to ask your seniors for help when you can't figure it out. Don't be afraid to phone vendors, even when they'll have never heard of you and the only place you found their phone number was on a PDF manual from 20 years ago and you aren't sure if it even goes to the same place.
spoilers: I used the phone number to locate their current website, they had totally rebranded and were under a different name and were chuffed to provide support for their old software.
Otto-Korrect@reddit (OP)
> As is tradition, I knocked a production environment down on my third week
Tradition! This guy brought down an entire location on his first day. Well, not really but we still kid him about the massive outage that happened just minutes after he showed up for his first day. It was so stressful that we were wondering if he'd be back the next day.
ImightHaveMissed@reddit
Make sure he’s recognized and he’s on the right track. I don’t look for or expect recognition but as the guy who doesn’t exist until something breaks, let him know he done good
maceion@reddit
Yes, do show your appreciation. Even if it is just a bar of chocolate.