Spotted this “Master CFI” gripping the yoke with both hands

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Urrolnis@reddit

Yall really find anything to complain about don't you.

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Clunk500CM@reddit

Actually the responses have been pretty tame. With that two handed "master" yoke grip, I was expecting this thread to be filled with comments about tugging dicks behind a Wendy's dumpster.

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Urrolnis@reddit

And we wonder why women don't feel comfortable in aviation

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-burnr-@reddit

Ah, sir....this is a Wendy's drive thru.

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Chairboy@reddit

Put a woman in an aviation role of any sort and some dudes here lose their goddamn minds and start getting spitting mad.

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I was on a TV show set, they were using one of the company planes for their shoot and they needed someone from the company there for insurance reasons. I was told to check with the director if there was anything they needed for the setup to make it look like the plane was in flight. So go to him and ask, eh says "no I don't think so, the actors know what they are doing. Just let me know if anything looks super off to you."

Calls "action" actor immediately grabs the yoke with both hands and starts wiggling it around like crazy. It's not supposed to be a crash scene or severe turbulence or anything. So after cut I say "hey man, nobody flies like that, just one hand on the yoke, they are in cruise, calm sky. He can just relax with one hand on the yoke"

Director "yea it's fine nobody will notice"

So didn't bother saying anything else. That scene didn't even make it in the show anyway.

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KeyOfGSharp@reddit

Oh what TV show? I would have loved to see the final result. It's a shame they didn't keep it in

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dromzugg@reddit

It was called "Alaska daily". It's not really about planes but being set in Alaska they had one of the side characters be a pilot who flies a beaver around and he and his plane appear in a couple episodes. I even made it into a shot for like half a second playing a dockhand.

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dresoccer4@reddit

when you said "pilot who flies a beaver around" i was picturing a VIP beaver being flown around to different logging sites to inspect their work 🦫

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Cessnateur@reddit

That would, hands down, be better than any actual show on any platform today.

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dresoccer4@reddit

agreed!

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LightningAndCoffee@reddit

You're on r/flying reading about an Alaska bushplane. You should have imagined the Beaver before it was even mentioned by name.

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dromzugg@reddit

No. That was the actual life of the guy running the beaching equipment to take our beaver in and out of the water for the shots in the hanger. One day the weather was kinda low and after dropping me in the river he saw me standing on the front of the float looking down river deciding if I should wait for the ceiling to lift a little or if there was enough ceiling for me. He called out "when I used to go on days like today I would just fly under the bridges"

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kabekew@reddit

That was my experience. I was brought on as technical director to a film with pretty big stars to write the radio dialogue and show the actors what the job is like. They wanted it "fully realistic." But when they'd shoot it, the actors would usually screw up the line ("heading eight one zero," "flight level two zero zero zero") and just about every one would talk on the headset with one hand cupped over the ear and the other holding the mic in place, the way people do their first hour ever using one. I'd tell the director they messed up the line or they're talking into the headset wrong and he'd just roll his eyes or say we're NOT redoing it for that!

When the DVD came out of course it got trashed for amateur and unrealistic depiction of aviation. Screw that.

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dromzugg@reddit

Hahaha, yea I wasn't even hired for any role on the show or anything. when I went the first time the owner of the plane just told me "bring the plane to this place, they will pull it out of the water. Then you can just chill at the hotel or whatever. They might want you on set."

It kinda snowballed from there. But I wasn't really invested, so they said to say something, I did, they made it clear they didn't care so I stopped saying anything. I also found the headset thing kinda funny. The director kept saying "move the mic, it's blocking your face" and I'm thinking "that's the only way it actually works, but whatever"

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Taptrick@reddit

I don’t really get why that’s a problem. I’ve never been told and I never instructed to anyone that you should not hold the yoke with both hands. In fact sometimes for faster roll rates you actually need to do this.

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Illustrious_Cow_4847@reddit

Bro what

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htnut-pk@reddit

Striker!

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sjr930@reddit

It's an advertisement dude and she looks 12 probably not even a pilot...

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EccentricFox@reddit

Uh, I noticed that in Top Gun Maverick when they steal the F14 and engage the SU57's what we can presume to be Fakour 90's, they locked on to the opposition fighters well outside the published engagement envelope and flight profile and well short capable of identify the SU57's radar cross section. Are we to believe these missiles have some sort of magic radar homing!? Boy, I really hope some one got fired for that blunder.

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ghost-n-the-machine@reddit

Are we to believe these missiles have some sort of magic radar homing!? Boy, I really hope some one got fired for that blunder.

Perfect Simpsons reference🤌

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LSOreli@reddit

The biggest blunder (as pointed out by someone funnier than me) was sending the squadron at all without doing SEAD with the tomahawks from their ships.

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Frothyleet@reddit

Really you are going to be doing DEAD rather than SEAD with cruise missiles. Let's not embarrass ourselves here.

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Dave_A480@reddit

Also not sending F-35s.

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Dave_A480@reddit

Top Gun has always been flippity-floppity with IR/Radar missiles

Even when it would have been an *easy* fix (Make the AIM-9s go rrrrrrrRrRrRRRRR not beep-beep-beepbeep-beeeeeep)....

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Traditional_Half_788@reddit

Most instructors look 12.

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missionarymechanic@reddit

This stupid "Two hands! Reeee!" nonsense needs to die. On small aircraft, yokes are an ergonomic disaster, especially if there's no good shelf to rest your elbow on. Hydraulics/fly-by-wire/servo tabs have relieved the need for yokes in larger aircraft.

Non-critical phase of flight or ground maneuvers? By all means, preserve your strength by balancing the weight of your arms on the yoke. By rotating your hands a bit so the handles rest in your fingers instead of on your palms, you can give all the precise, light pressure you want.

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Sensitive-Tone5279@reddit

Actor is acting.,

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ZOB_oo_land@reddit

Fun fact, Delta has a bunch of training videos performed by Maisie Williams in a pilot uniform from before she got as big. You wouldn't know she wasn't a pilot, except for some small mispronunciations that don't quite make sense.

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jememcak@reddit

Maisie Williams before she got famous? So like a 12 year old in a pilot's uniform?

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ZOB_oo_land@reddit

Emphasis added

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iamgravity@reddit

Gonna call BS on this one.

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ZOB_oo_land@reddit

Yeah I'm a fuckin idiot. Fixed.

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iamgravity@reddit

We are all idiots on this Blessed Day.

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Legitimate-Watch-670@reddit

Thank you for the name. Our instructor mentioned she was an actress. She did an incredible job of it imo, definitely need to look up her movies

If she did PPL training videos instead of Martha king, I think a lot of my students would be significantly better at studying 🤣

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LockPickingPilot@reddit

https://www.erinelizabethburns.com/assets/images/image06.jpg?v=29b23171she does look like a delta pilot

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DOCKTORCOKTOR@reddit

well, at least you corrected it lmafooo

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787seattle@reddit

Do you mean Erin Elizabeth Burns? I have a hard time thinking Maisie Williams could possibly be considered for making those videos.

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ZOB_oo_land@reddit

You're correct, I'm a dumbass

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OutOfBase@reddit

I have not seen a single LMS video with Maisie Williams.

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ZOB_oo_land@reddit

Might be fleet specific, I was 717.

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OutOfBase@reddit

I'm currently 717A and never seen it. The current actress on all our vids is quite a cutie though.

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ZOB_oo_land@reddit

Wack. Maybe I'm out of my mind but I could have sworn that was the case... Gonna go check now

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burnheartmusic@reddit

That doesn’t make sense. Before she got as big/famous? She was 14 when game of thrones came out. So she was doing the video at 13?

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kyrsjo@reddit

Having been photographed at my job, which does not involve planes but which is very technical: Photographers sometimes instruct people to do things in an unconventional way because they think it would look cool. In my case it was "oh can you grab a wrench and pretend to work on that box over there" because the light, scene around that spot, etc. was nice.

We got some really nice photographs including one that I often use as a profile picture, and some that I quietly hope nobody will find in the archive. And some I flat out refused to do on the grounds of "this will look too stupid".

So I could see them picking the prettiest employee, placing her in the seat, and at some point saying "and now put both hands on the yoke" or something like that. Ditto with the mike position - of course it can't be partially obscuring her face.

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JosephMama_OwO@reddit

Why aren't you supposed to?

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Legitimate-Watch-670@reddit

Because if you're doing something that requires that much force in a GA airplane, you're doing it wrong. If you're using both hands, you're just exerting extra unnecessary effort, and probably also over controlling which again also just makes your job extra difficult.

That being said, I have ridden with some students who apparently weren't taught, or didn't learn, about the trim wheel or how to use it. If that's the case for you and you're past lesson 2, do yourself a favor and fire your instructor immediately and get a new one.

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buriedupsidedown@reddit

Probably because most GA aircraft have a trim wheel in the center and you should be trimming twice as much as you are. If you need the amount of force to fly with both hands then your hand needs to be on the trim wheel. Also, did I mention trimming?

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Mozoto@reddit

Pilot: Aeroplane, trim thyself !! x)

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Mozoto@reddit

He prolly means that you almost never do that, unless you do some hard and quick maneuvering and even then its a maybe, especially in a small, light plane, you mostly fly with one hand and a light touch on the yoke, the other hand on the throttles. Tho i'd say its somewhat pedantic in my eyes to point it out in a little ad like this...

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i8nemo2@reddit

How else is she going to complete that 3 point turn?

Looking for traffic?

Adavnce traffic merge technique?

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Stewardess-Slayer@reddit

It’s obviously because women don’t possess the upper body strength to control the plane with one hand

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JijiSpitz@reddit

I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic, but I’ve had a passenger in complete disbelief that I was going to be his captain as he didn’t understand how I could possibly have the upper body strength to handle the airplane.

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mild-blue-yonder@reddit

Yeah fly by wire really opened up a lot of opportunities for the women folk!

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JijiSpitz@reddit

Weird reply considering the type in my tag doesn’t have that

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mild-blue-yonder@reddit

Yeah it was a shitty joke

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JijiSpitz@reddit

Yeah, I think it’s also because jokes at the expense of women in aviation is pretty outdated js

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mild-blue-yonder@reddit

I viewed it more as making a mockery of misogyny, but take it how you want I guess.

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Mountain-Captain-396@reddit

This man does not B777

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mild-blue-yonder@reddit

Or read flair.

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earthgreen10@reddit

do people fly fighter jets with one hand too?

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stickandorrudder@reddit

This was taken during the "free and correct" portion of the checklist

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oh_helloghost@reddit

Pfft… they should really be paying attention, it’s dead stick and no electrical power either!

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HawkDriver@reddit

The mechanic asked her to pull the yoke and make sure the rudder was still connected. Just working some maintenance safety checks.

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therein@reddit

Face the sun for maximum visibility.

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Practical-Raisin-721@reddit

The altitude is also quite low. One might even suspect that it is already on the ground.

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philbott@reddit

For real that Pilot should be looking for a land out site

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Upstairs-Painting-60@reddit

So the Master CFI mastered CFI'ing and not marketing.

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Kiss-My-Class@reddit

Reminds me of the pics from N.Korea where THEIR dicktator is shown flying from the left….lol

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lnxguy@reddit

It's a stock photo. Besides, most things can be more fun when gripped with both hands.

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Pandazoic@reddit

I’ve been waiting for you, Obi-Wan.

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e6bplotter@reddit

How come I hold the yoke double-clutch.

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UncleSugarShitposter@reddit

I could fix her.

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Lazypilot306@reddit

I always wondered about this. Not very keen on paying for a title. Who’s got experience with it?

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SorryNoMic@reddit

Or hear me out, it’s a photo shoot

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poser765@reddit

Sometimes I use a two handed grip. In the Airbus. Come at me!

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somecallmesal@reddit

My first flight (disco flight) my instructor told me "stop grabbing the yoke like it's your cock. Imagine it's a homeless guys dick and you have to move it to live. Forefinger, middle, and thumb is all it takes to get the job done." That stuck with me.

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randomroute350@reddit

No clue who downvoted you but your CFI was the GOAT

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somecallmesal@reddit

He was a cool dude. This was in the mid-nineties.

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Jimmyoun@reddit

The prop isn't even spinning

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ImminentDebacle@reddit

Good catch.

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Cool-Acanthaceae8968@reddit

And?

Outside of flight training.. nobody cares.

Most maneuvers are at a specific power setting and trim. Once you know them, you set and forget them.

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ImminentDebacle@reddit

I'm so glad you said this.

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jay_in_the_pnw@reddit

i dunno, I think this is me not wanting to see the ground racing in front of me as I'm trying to pull out of a dive I stupidly got into when I stall spun the aircraft because I was texting

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Logical_Check2@reddit

I can do steep turns with one pinky

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wt1j@reddit

First I’ve heard of a “Master CFI” which for those of you reading is not an FAA thing and never has been.

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csl512@reddit

She has to because of the soldering iron burns

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emperormanlet@reddit

Me during my PPL on a go-around with full nose-up trim & flaps.

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Sommern@reddit

wow who cares?

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Tyraid@reddit

I hated that my PPL instructor WOULD NOT let me fly the plane with two hands.

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plicpriest@reddit

Ya! And then I got good at one hand on the yoke and one on the throttle. Then I got to the airlines and they made me put 2 hands on the yoke at V1. Like, can’t these instructor pilots make up their minds?!?! 🤪

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Twarrior913@reddit

And then!! (!) they made me PULL my hand OFF the yoke when they FAILED my A/Ts!!! Like, what the FUCK?!?!?!!!

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slyskyflyby@reddit

I don't think the intent is to make you believe she is a master CFI...

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nopal_blanco@reddit

The plane is literally not even on.

You can make them take a cool “Master CFI” pic of you when you jump through their hoops.

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