ULPT - bought fake college transcripts. how cooked am I?
Posted by StrawberryShelby898@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 331 comments
the title pretty much says it all- I got desperate from job searching (laid off beginning of April 2025) and put on my resume that I had a B.S. Computer Science degree from a closed down college. Never got any interviews, more rejection emails than I can count until I made this adjustment. Mind you I do have experience in tech for different positions (software developer, business systems analyst etc)
I had one interview with company A and one scheduled for next week for company B. Company A reached out this morning stating they wanted to make me an offer pending background check. I went ahead and bought fake college transcripts (since that seems to be more convincing than the actual degree itself is what I've learned) and they are saying that the background check normally takes 2 weeks.
I cannot confess this lie now, I'm in too deep lol I am pretty sure I won't get the job, but any agreeing/disagreeing opinions are welcomed. Thank you :p
technophile777@reddit
Background check normally refers to a criminal background check and credit check. If they don’t ask for transcripts then they will likely never realize. Most hiring processes are just not as thorough as you might assume.
it_be_like_this@reddit
Depends on the background check. If it is just a criminal background check then that obviously won’t affect anything. However many fields will do an education verification as part of the background check, if so you’re done like dinner.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
the worst thing they can do is say no lol, gotta have some skin in the unemployment game
vegasbywayofLA@reddit
Did you have to list your degree on the background form or just employment?
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
on the application form they ask for both employment/education information
vegasbywayofLA@reddit
Ok. They will run education. For what is worth, when I worked for a contract staffing company, we'd had clients request different levels of screening on the contractors we placed. When education couldn't be verified with the school, they accepted transcripts provided by the employee. Diplomas, too, i believe. Not saying you don't have to worry, but there's a good chance you're ok.
Some schools were just shitty about verifying education.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
thats what im hoping will be the scenario, those fake transcripts weren't cheap!
InSixFour@reddit
I’ve had a few jobs where I was part of the hiring process. I can tell you I never once did any sort of check into someone’s education. It truly doesn’t matter. As long as they were capable of doing the job and didn’t have any crazy stuff on their criminal background check I’d hire them. I didn’t give two shits about education.
changelingerer@reddit
I heard of someone who apparently had a great and successful career, claiming a degree from Harvard that apparently was never checked.
Got caught out in one interview because the interviewer (the person I knew), happened to have actually attended Harvard at the same time, and, by chance, when asked re: which dorm etc., the candidate claimed to have lived in the same dorm and floor that my friend actually lived in and I think he was an RA or something who literally knew everyone who was actually there (my friend assumed he probably did a summer extension course or something at some point so he has some familiarity with the campus to answer most questions from other alumni, except he was particularly unlucky that the dorm/floor etc. he picked happened to line up with one of the few people who could actually call him out).
Obviously, he didn't get that offer, but, by all accounts, has been doing just fine since.
gdawg99@reddit
It's very often not the in-house HR folks doing the background check, it's a hired third-party company that definitely will do a full education check if that's part of what they've been hired to do.
Nicktheschip@reddit
That’s giving them too much credit. If they can’t verify they reach out to you to give them evidence. Usually they’ll note it to the employer but most of those background check companies are crap too. A few of them couldn’t verify my very real degrees. Had to provide transcripts and all good. One couldn’t verify past employment had to provide pay stubs.
BeerLeague@reddit
This really depends on the field. I do a lot of hiring where I work and part of the background check is verification of degree(s). The transcripts must come from directly from an accredited university via the registrar or a verified third party supplier like parchment - we don’t accept transcripts being sent in by the employee themselves. No transcripts = no job offer.
That said, it certainly does depend on the field. Many won’t go to the lengths I mentioned above.
Nicktheschip@reddit
And if the university is closed or closed pre-parchment what would you do?
BeerLeague@reddit
The records are stored at another school (common) or the government. When you input the school, the system will tell you where they are stored.
whoelsebutquagmire75@reddit
I’m an internal auditor and this is very true.
latigidigital@reddit
When I had my first background check in my 20s, the company couldn’t verify that I even existed and rejected me. I wrote the CEO and got the gig.
MaloneSeven@reddit
OP needs to find out what third party is doing the education verification and bribe the correct employee ..
Nother1BitestheCrust@reddit
This is going to vary wildly from profession to profession.
s0berR00fer@reddit
“Capable of doing the job”
More so “as long as I thought they were…”
StopBeingABot@reddit
You mentioned it was from a closed down college .. how can they even verify them? I agree you don't have to worry
clueing_4looks@reddit
The National Student Clearinghouse holds transcripts for many closed colleges. That's how I had to get mine.
SuddenlyHappy1@reddit
Depending on what state, the state's education department is likely to be the custodian of the closed school's student educational records. Or, they would know the currently operating school that is the custodian of those records.
Transcripts are required by federal law to be kept for at least 60 years.
It just depends on how thorough the background checkers are going to be about this.
orbembell@reddit
This. If a college closes down, another one nearby will most likely hold the records.
itsalmostover321@reddit
Cheaper than real ones
SecurityDox@reddit
Getting mine and not having the stress, anxiety, and mental toll for every application seems pretty worth it in this case
austinvvs@reddit
Nah. It feels pretty pointless given almost everyone I know is jobless right now even with that shitty piece of paper
bamfsalad@reddit
Almost everyone you know is jobless right now? That seems bizarre to me?
austinvvs@reddit
Well most of the people I’ve been talking to recently are new grads in a few different groupchats. I can’t speak for the whole country. Also the friends I made in college were information systems majors; I’m sure we’re having a harder time than somebody that studied something in med.
Close friend of mine had an internship but she hasn’t been able to land a job yet. Graduated in december.
I know people who graduated 3-4 years ago that obviously have jobs but the landscape seems to have shifted; theres always these claims that we’ve had job growth and millions more jobs added. Where are they then? 🤣
u3plo6@reddit
I know people who spent 3-4 years finding a job despite excellent qualifications and references post grad. who you know really makes a difference and if you don't have an in, it's hard to set yourself apart from all the others applying. the screening software also favors what used to be considered a sign of laziness and an inability to think for yourself. and since different software has different criteria, copypasta saves everyone.
austinvvs@reddit
I honestly have started embellishing the hell out of my resume and lying about my accomplishments. That has landed me a few interviews.
I was one of the lucky ones who got an internship because of a reference and because I’m bartending again while looking for a job in my field I’ve just lied and said I’m working for a different company 🤣
And yeah my neighbor showed me him copy pasting the requirements into GPT, then putting everything in his own words/whiting it out at the bottom of the resume. I figured that might not work as well as it used to
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G0muk@reddit
They're probably CS majors etc who are graduating into a market that doesnt want them right now because theres so much experienced talent recently laid-off and job hunting
Spieltier@reddit
How much are your student loan payments?
fizzymangolollypop@reddit
"I don't have them, my grandparents paid."
SecurityDox@reddit
Nope! Community college to get my associates, then 2 years at a public university!
SecurityDox@reddit
$150 / month now because I aggressively paid them off while I was still renting. Only have about $3k left
msreditalready@reddit
Dude. I need some. I mean I have a real degree but why oh why did I get a BFA?! (Bc I pursued it for years, no real regrets on that front.) But I need a fucking job. I need a (fake) business degree!
juliabwylde@reddit
I knew someone who applied for a job at the US supreme court, I think it was for the security office, and she had to find and cart in her diploma. And the diploma could not display damage. I remember that clearly, because I wouldn't qualify (my roommate's dog chomped the top of my diploma when rolled up, so half of the university name is bitten off). She had already provided transcripts directly from the university, and then they gave her a very short period of time to get the diploma down to DC. It was in a big ass matted frame, so she couldn't easily pop it out, and had to cart the whole dumb thing on the metro.
FYI, in case you want to get a diploma ready.
Aromatic_Collar_5660@reddit
Can u update us on how it goes please
IsleOfOne@reddit
Hopefully your attorney fees for the fraud case are cheaper!
ReputationNo4256@reddit
How much did you pay?
yaycupcake@reddit
Hi, not OP but what would you do for an education background check based on what you fill out in the application if they require the education field as a non-optional drop down but you either didn't go to college, didn't graduate, or went to a school that isn't listed? Lots of applications seem to do this. I've considered just putting the first school in the list alphabetically with the first major alphabetically etc. and then just disclosing that I had to put something there to submit, when speaking to a person. But I'd hate to get in trouble for that but idk what the alternative is if you can't pick "other" or leave it blank.
vegasbywayofLA@reddit
So I didn't work for the background company, I worked for the staffing company. My company used Sterling as our background check provider, but occasionally, HireRight for certain clients. I can't speak to what you are seeing on applications without looking at it.
What you fill out for an application is different than the background, or at least, it used to be. You would have to fill out an entirely different form that you authorize the employer to run your background and that is typically done post-offer. If you are talking about an actual background form, I would think they would be most concerned with the highest degree you earned, be it high school diploma, bachelor's, etc.
For online application questions, I think you would get better answers from r/askhr or another community on reddit.
MusicalCougar@reddit
When HireRight tried to verify me, they 1) spelled my maiden name wrong, 2) used 2003 instead of 2000 for my grad year, and then 3) tried to call on Christmas Day (I’m in the U.S.)
Worthless company.
loerclohs@reddit
Never worked with Sterling, but HireRight rejected my education history because I accidentally got my enrollment date wrong (1 day off). It was wild. I almost didn’t get the job because of it and had already been onboarded while we waited for the verification to come back.
vegasbywayofLA@reddit
HireRight was a pain in the ass to deal with. Luckily, I only had one client that required us to use them. I can't believe you had to list the exact date of enrollment! I could tell you the month and year I started college, but the day?!! That's ridiculous. Same thing for employment history.
hippydippyshit@reddit
August 17th. Don’t ask me why I know my exact start date from over a decade ago. I have forgotten my lunch 3 times this week and I’ve only worked 3 days this week.
loerclohs@reddit
Mine was August 19 🤣 a year ago I couldn’t have told you what it was but I can guarantee you now I’ll never forget it!
taylor__spliff@reddit
HireRight is ridiculously awful. They kept saying they couldn’t verify one of my past jobs because they couldn’t get them on the phone. I reached out to the HR person and they said they had no clue anyone was calling and that I could give them their personal phone number. HireRight called them 3 nights in a row at 2-3 AM lol.
yaycupcake@reddit
I see, thank you for the info!
10Visionary@reddit
Damn in Germany you’d be facing jail time for faking legal/certified documents 😭
GKrollin@reddit
This is also true in the US but you almost certainly wouldn’t be sued in this case
Alert-Performance199@reddit
That and report you for fraud
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
No, the worst thing they can do is involve police. Presenting a forged document (especially with forged signatures) is very illegal and even more illegal when it’s for the purposes of receiving money to which you aren’t entitled. Same goes with fake medical notes.
Braincain007@reddit
Actually worst they can do is put you on an employment blacklist to let other companies know not to hire you.
nimloman@reddit
Yes, so my friend did this for years and was fine, that is until his second job, he lied, and then a month after he was hired he got fired because of his bs degree.
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Um, im thinking the worst they can do is report you for fraud
BobbleBobble@reddit
Report to who? There are no damages.
SecretOscarOG@reddit
The FTC may disagree
BobbleBobble@reddit
You think the FTC is gonna care about a college dropout lying about his degree to a private company? Honestly? Tell me you honestly believe that
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Um. Thats their job. They're literally the people you report this stuff to. Especially if it involves licensing. You're more than welcome to Google it.
UsedDragon@reddit
This is kinda funny.
BobbleBobble@reddit
Okay, if the FTC cares about that, then I'm sure you'd be able to find me multiple examples of the FTC prosecuting people for lying on job applications, right? Shouldn't be hard
SecretOscarOG@reddit
In 2005 NJ prosecuted 40 people for fraud in their licensing. Gallarzo, falsely claimed to be a nurse with a BS, went to jail. A Kent state dropout was jailed for falsifying documents to get a teacher's license. I'm sure i could go on but I dont really wanna
BobbleBobble@reddit
LOL she went to jail for identity theft. Clever not actually sharing a link so that would be obvious. Are you just straight up lying now? Have some shame, admit you were talking out your ass and let it go, stop doubling down
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Wow it's almost like fraud is identity theft! Omg that's so crazy how that's exactly what I said!!! So weird, thanks for confirming that for me though.
Several_Leader_7140@reddit
No, it’s not identity theft, whose identity did op steal
BobbleBobble@reddit
Are you saying you think the FTC is going to charge OP with identify theft for lying about a degree?
SecretOscarOG@reddit
If he needed to get any licensing, yes that's quite literally what they would charge him with. Good job, im proud of you for getting there all on your own.
BobbleBobble@reddit
Does OP need to get any licensing?
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Never said op did. All I said was he could be reported for fraud. Suddenly all the fraudsters are offended. Where do you work? Might wanna let hr know to double check your resume cause you took this pretty personally
BobbleBobble@reddit
Girl, ad hominem is a sad last refuge. The shit you're saying makes no sense. Let it go, you were talking out your ass and got called on it. It's fine, it happens. Doubling down just makes you look fragile
BobbleBobble@reddit
Also can you provide links for either of these because Google returns no results and it kinda seems like you're just making stuff up
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Here's one that shows several of these events with limited detail, you can do more research yourself if you know how
https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/lying-resume-often-backfires/lZFGrpJ2bNcUULesZYVX2J/
BobbleBobble@reddit
"Limited detail" lol is that a euphemism for completely fabricated? There's literally no supporting evidence for anything you're claiming
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Wow so fucking Google it??????? Just because you cant does not mean i need to hold your wittle hand. But I will, ill hold that wittle hand.
On Monday, June 20, 2005, this often-unexercised right of licensing agencies was utilized and boldly displayed in newspaper headlines in New Jersey in order to make a point. In the Star-Ledger article, “Ex-cons seeking security posts accused of lies: Applicant crackdown nets 40,” Chandra M. Hayslett reported that 40 individuals were arrested between May 23rd and June 9th for allegedly falsifying their applications for unarmed security guard licenses.
https://www.lac.org/news/true-consequences-lying-on-job-applications#:~:text=On%20Monday%2C%20June%2020%2C%202005,for%20unarmed%20security%20guard%20licenses.
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https://www.telegram.com/story/news/2005/10/06/teacher-pleads-guilty-to-forging/53171196007/
There's a woman in Connecticut arrested for it
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https://longisland.news12.com/nassau-da-adelphi-nursing-professor-taught-with-forged-license-38849703
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/nov/29/bogus-teacher-forged-qualifications-jailed
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As far as that one guy in Ohio, his name is Benjamin Haynam and here's your precious article
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2009/12/31/toledo-man-sentenced-for-forging/24175237007/
deleted_by_reddit@reddit
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UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit
Your comment was removed for violating rule 14: No reason to be a dick. Seriously, get therapy or fuck off.
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Wow so fucking Google it, are you dumb???????? Just because your incompetent does not mean i need to hold your wittle hand. But I will, you poor baby, ill hold that wittle hand.
On Monday, June 20, 2005, this often-unexercised right of licensing agencies was utilized and boldly displayed in newspaper headlines in New Jersey in order to make a point. In the Star-Ledger article, “Ex-cons seeking security posts accused of lies: Applicant crackdown nets 40,” Chandra M. Hayslett reported that 40 individuals were arrested between May 23rd and June 9th for allegedly falsifying their applications for unarmed security guard licenses.
https://www.lac.org/news/true-consequences-lying-on-job-applications#:~:text=On%20Monday%2C%20June%2020%2C%202005,for%20unarmed%20security%20guard%20licenses.
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https://www.telegram.com/story/news/2005/10/06/teacher-pleads-guilty-to-forging/53171196007/
There's a woman in Connecticut arrested for it
.
https://longisland.news12.com/nassau-da-adelphi-nursing-professor-taught-with-forged-license-38849703
.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/nov/29/bogus-teacher-forged-qualifications-jailed
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As far as that one guy in Ohio, his name is Benjamin Haynam and here's your precious article you poor poor incapable thing.
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2009/12/31/toledo-man-sentenced-for-forging/24175237007/
UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit
Your comment was removed for violating rule 14: No reason to be a dick. Seriously, get therapy or fuck off.
BobbleBobble@reddit
Jesus learn some self control lady
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Your spelled "oops I was wrong" incorrect, but I gathered your meaning with the context clues, thank you ☺️☺️
deathboyuk@reddit
If you believe that, I've got a bridge I can sell you
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Whether or not they actually do it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they can do it. I never said they will. I said they can.
T-MobileAreCriminals@reddit
The FTC doesnt even care about multibillion dollar companies blatantly committing consumer fraud
https://www.t-mobile.com/community/discussions/plans-features/scammed-by-t-mobile-now-what/58088
Actually no one seems to care tbh
SecretOscarOG@reddit
But you do, you seem to have centered your whole personality around it. You must be fun at parties
T-MobileAreCriminals@reddit
Let’s be honest neither one of us even go to parties unless it’s a party of 1 at a restaurant.
SecretOscarOG@reddit
I see you deleted that comment. Did your imaginary friend tell you it was too mean? It's ok, I'll forgive you, poor thing
T-MobileAreCriminals@reddit
Thanks bro
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Oh party of 2 for me, and i reserved the seats with my tmobile phone
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
you must be real fun at parties
SecretOscarOG@reddit
At least I'm employed 🤣
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
you got me there bud
it_be_like_this@reddit
Hey I don’t blame you! I stretch the truth on my resume and in interviews, just need to anticipate that some lies can be verified.
cheese4hands@reddit
how can they verify even though op chose a school that is no longer in business?
jim182182@reddit
It's is 99% likely it is only going to be criminal. No one check education unless it's for a senior leadership role.
Nother1BitestheCrust@reddit
That will depend on the field, honestly.
PandamoniumTime@reddit
Very wrong, i work in staffing and run backgrounds daily. There are people making ~20 bucks an hour working low level positions being required to have a degree for their background check
latigidigital@reddit
What kind of hellish job requires a degree for $20/hour? That’s less than housekeeping, babysitting, DoorDash, Uber, untrained construction, and entry positions at some restaurants.
BreakfastMedical5164@reddit
any company who wants 20-30 year old front office staff worker but not pay them 30+ per hour
Stebben84@reddit
I've heard people say this before, and it is not true for me. I've had background checks include education for mid level roles. It depends on the company and what they want to spend.
AlexanderTheOrdinary@reddit
You're right, people assume this because they don't realize they're but asking you for transcripts, they're using a 3rd party without your input.
BeerLeague@reddit
If they are actually checking, they usually don’t ask for you to send them transcripts, they want transcripts from the university you attended or a verified third party like parchment.
CutCorners@reddit
Where I work every applicant has their education verified - even junior hires. If they are lying then we don't want them.
iloathebeer@reddit
Username something or other
That_Account6143@reddit
My credentials were never checked in the last 10 years. Kind of a bummer, would have rather faked it than pay so much for it lol
jim182182@reddit
Right! By the time you even get to that leadership role, i'm sure they wouldn't even care as long as you had a ton of experience with previous work, which by that time you would. College was literally a waste of time except for that piece of paper standing between me and a job. Most entry level jobs are where you learn anyways. I learned nothing in college to actually prepare me for my career. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone or every industry, but mine for sure.
J0E_Blow@reddit
What major?
min_mus@reddit
Every job I've had has verified my university attendance, which degrees were conferred, and when.
Sorgenlos@reddit
This is simply not true.
MotherOfDragons402@reddit
Not necessarily true. Depends on the company but many, especially for professional roles, will run education. Some companies you can get one by on them say if they don’t hear from the university and they ask for proof - then provide the “diploma.” Others will compare the application, education check, and resume and/or only accept verification from the school. (Source: HR for well known company that would rescind offers if discrepancies were found)
AlexanderTheOrdinary@reddit
I think a lot of people assume this because they don't get asked for their transcripts but out of the 3 companies I worked for, when I looked at the background check they all used a 3rd party to verify my degree.
I think the possible exception are very small companies.
hungrykitteh57@reddit
My current employer requires that the transcript come directly from the institution. Even if someone somehow made it through a background check, the fake transcript would not be accepted.
Tak-Hendrix@reddit
How can they verify if the college is out of business?
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
I looked it up online- most transcripts from closed institutions usually get transferred to a different university
MisterSlosh@reddit
That "usually" is holding a lot of weight here.
If you're old enough next time tag it as one of those online universities from the early 2000s that crashed right after the Great American Recession.
BeerLeague@reddit
If the job is actually verifying degrees, this won’t work as all of (there wernt actually very many) accredited programs got passed onto another college or state entity for safekeeping as is required by law.
Bwendolyn@reddit
Most of those weren’t accredited and wouldn’t “count” in this case even if they actually did attend, unfortunately.
MisterSlosh@reddit
A very important point.
Going to need to hunt for one with credentials that didn't just hand off or fold into a still living school. That or just hope that gets in the door for on-job testing and they skip the deeper check.
it_be_like_this@reddit
Most states require closed institutions to transfer student records to a state agency or designated custodian.
HeavyBeing0_0@reddit
My job sends your fingerprints to the fbi for a background check, credit report, education verification, and whatever else. It’s really not that serious considering what we do lmao
Beermedear@reddit
Depends. I had a check through HireRight and they weren’t able to verify the education information automatically. They sent a request for transcript, I uploaded it, and it was approved in a matter of hours.
Granted, mine wasn’t fake lol. But I’m not sure how thorough manual verification is.
icarusflewtooclose@reddit
It depends. My Alma mater was non-responsive during the background check and almost cost me the job. I just scanned a copy of the diploma to them instead.
cheese4hands@reddit
where did you get said transcripts? ....asking for a friend.
PhoenixScorpion@reddit
We caught an applicant once for a district manager position. We started to catch on, because of one of the odd conversations with one of his references. We always add some false information, just to see how well the reference understand the applicants history. This reference would confirm anything we asked, I figured it out mid call, and decided to see how far I could go with it. Reference confirmed they worked for nasa, the cia and even provided some stories about both. That was after confirming a work history that did not match what the applicant had stated.
We ended up digging further, never went to college, only one job ended up being real work history, all the other ones were made up. We just sent a general denial letter, we did not tell them we found out they were lying.
A month later, a competing franchise manager called, asking about his work history with us. He used us, but put down someone they were pretty sure never worked for us as a contact. Needless to say, he didn't get that job either. They contacted corporate and an email went out blacklisting the applicant.
CHAIR0RPIAN@reddit
OK so always give your fake references the run down of your story before they get called, Got it.
KronktheKronk@reddit
That story is 100% bullshit. Why would a reference know anyone's whole work history? I've been a reference for colleagues many times and they only ever ask about when we worked together. I've been a reference for direct reports more than once and I've never known their whole work history, and even if I did I wouldn't discuss it with a reference checker.
CHAIR0RPIAN@reddit
Hey that's a good point - Everyone grab a pitchfork!
PhoenixScorpion@reddit
Brought up valid skepticism, I replied.
PhoenixScorpion@reddit
There are work references and personal references with length of time they've known them. If you're calling a work reference you ask about that work place. Personal references are asked if they knew the applicant when they worked at such and such workplace. If they give way to much information about each workplace it's a red flag. Most just say ya I know they worked there or I didn't know they worked there.
Hinote21@reddit
They wouldn't and that's the point. Any actual reference would say "I don't know anything about that. I know x y z."
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
this is how I passed the reference check for the job lol
J0E_Blow@reddit
Where did you get a fake reference?
webtoweb2pumps@reddit
Any friend. I've had former colleagues claim I was their manager. We did the same job, on the same team. They gave my name and said I managed them in hopes they would only contact me and not the company. Been a fake reference a few times and a real one a few times too, but only as a character reference. No clue if it was what did or didn't get them the job, not sure if the old company was also contacted. I don't work for em anymore and never will so I don't care about my name in the mix, but I have to imagine they'd contact the old workplace to at least confirm that I managed that person at one point lol.
That_Account6143@reddit
When i was used as a reference, i said everything positive about what i knew.
If i didn't know, i said "oh i'm not familiar with that, but knowing him i'm not worried, he's great at that sort of thing"
Worked out okay
L0LTHED0G@reddit
That's why you get multiple phone numbers and all your references go back to you.
You control the narrative that way. Nice job finding out, but there's certainly ways around it.
Funniest part about all this? I learned that hack from my Computer Ethics teacher, when another kid in the class, while we all walked to our cars, complained he couldn't find a job due to no experience. "Put you worked at business that's gone, your general manager was XYZ, and his number is one that goes back to you. Give yourself glowing recommendation."
Said that's how he got started. Then he used that job to catapult to next job, and now he has a real job to point back at.
PhoenixScorpion@reddit
Before I got out of real estate, the phone numbers and reference names all had to check out. So if someone gave 5 references and none of them were matching with the phone number it would be a red flag.
The service we used, gave us all previous addresses, old phone numbers, all family members, insurance information, anyone that lived at the same addresses at the same time. There was also a lot of work history, and a complete background check.
I actually put fedex on my work history to help get a job at ups, I had a friend that was a manager their and he let me use him as a reference. When I started at ups they were way more selective about hiring people off the street. Through the years they basically hired anyone that applied during the e-commerce boom. If you can do the job, and get away with padding your resume I'd say go for it.
If you're caught, it's going to immediately disqualify you at most places though. I actually wanted to give the applicant a chance, but my gm said she'd quit. The women we ended up hiring was great though, so definitely was the right choice to go with the runner up.
J0E_Blow@reddit
Wouldnt HR recognize your voice?
yourdonefor_wt@reddit
That was what I was going to say
Mr_Slippery@reddit
The real ULPT is always in the comments
ahsilat@reddit
Now that’s an ULPT
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
sucks for ole boy!
bRIKSWhoisthis@reddit
You’ll be fine people made it into government with fake credentials
mwhelan182@reddit
Where uhh.. Where did you find these transcripts for sale?
FJB444@reddit
they're going to hire you. the job that i went to only wanted a picture of my diploma they never even bothered checking transcripts.
Scientist78@reddit
I got a dream job in Maui and after being hired and getting the keys to the store, I was let go because I used my old resume and they did a background check.
My old resume said I graduated from college and got a degree. I used that resume one time to try and get a higher paying job. Anyway, They had someway to look that up and find out it wasn’t true and I never got a degree. I was so sad and angry cause of my stupid mistake
motie@reddit
"Those four years? Yale."
PriscillaPresley@reddit
Thanks, I really needed this yob
Aqquos@reddit
Depends on the background check company. Being in a similar situation, I lied about a degree for a lame contract role and they didn’t verify my degree. Got the job no problem and even told some coworkers about my fake degree when asked.
All you can do is wait and see.
susanbontheknees@reddit
You must be one of my coworkers
Aqquos@reddit
Bruh, it was for a shitty contract role and it was years ago. Calm down.
susanbontheknees@reddit
Bruh it was just a joke
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
my plan is to show the fake documentation if they cannot verify my degree- trying to be one step ahead for a 50/50 chance
iamnogoodatthis@reddit
Bear in mind that forgery might get you in more trouble than just lying
cayman-98@reddit
Just so you know, when providing documentation like a diploma or a transcript those companies who do BGC don't assume it's real. It does get sent to a person at those institutions to verify. Or if they dont do it they will give that along with the background report to your company and they will send it for verification. Just be careful with doing it like that since that can get you in trouble with an institution too.
I always say just leave the stuff like that off the BGC and it won't get caught. Only crazy lie I used to do when I was starting my career was changing job titles from intern to full time developer, and also adding internships I never did in order to get the ones I wanted. Then I would just leave them off the BGC and no one questioned it.
s0berR00fer@reddit
Pretty much correct.
I’ve had both happen BUT I’ve only known of the first choice being done and I have an actual degree.
mrdmp1@reddit
🤦♂️
Aqquos@reddit
Bruh, it was for a shitty contract role and it was years ago. Calm down.
mrdmp1@reddit
🤦♂️ remains
Aqquos@reddit
So, when you lie about a degree and your new coworkers ask where you went to school, what’s your response? Enlighten me.
say592@reddit
Yeah, in the future dont do that lol
Aqquos@reddit
Bruh, it was for a shitty contract role and it was years ago. Calm down.
continuousBaBa@reddit
Ha, I am finally to the everyone-greater-than-or-equal-to-my-team-leader is at best, not my friend and at worst, well good luck
JeepPilot@reddit
That's a perfect example for "Never tell anything to your best friend that you wouldn't want your worst enemy to know."
sunshinedolls@reddit
Just a matter of time, loose lips
Aqquos@reddit
Bruh, it was for a shitty contract role and it was years ago. Calm down.
Last_Sherbert_9848@reddit
the fact you got that desperate after less than a Month is wild. people here take about a year to find a job on average.
webtoweb2pumps@reddit
I worked for a company that had like 500 employees at the time, and a guy we worked with got fired out of the blue like 3 months in. A later new hire recognized him, told hr to google his name and there were many news articles about inappropriate stuff with kids with his name all over them.
If a background check doesn't even include a basic Google search, it seems like they are just ticking boxes people have deemed important.
I genuinely wouldn't even know how to prove my degree if I had to. I'm guessing to get my transcripts I'd have to reach out to the uni? I don't even know. And if they didn't exist anymore I especially don't know how I'd get them. Would they accept my paper degree from my filing cabinet/a scan of it? I'm guessing most people who have to prove their education are in my same position unless previous jobs have required this evidence.
ImaginaryDebate4211@reddit
Really depends on the company for the background check. When I used to conduct background checks, its a thick packet of information (work, education, criminal history). Although all of that info was included, only the criminal was really looked at.
SouthpawSeahorse@reddit
If they can’t get in touch with the school sometimes they ask for your diploma/ transcript. You could be good.
KyloRenCadetStimpy@reddit
You weren't lying. You sure do have a BS Computer Science degree
Darkkujo@reddit
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard."
RickGrindskin@reddit
What a Fantastic quote.
johann9151@reddit
God I miss New Vegas. Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
sho666@reddit
I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee...
KyloRenCadetStimpy@reddit
A Fisto to the...uh...nevermind
DAM0091@reddit
2 people didn't get the joke
dryfire@reddit
Why do computer scientists confuse Christmas with Halloween?
dudechickendude@reddit
Research shows 5 out of 3 high school graduates admit to being bad at fractions…
SushiRoll2004@reddit
Well when you consider 72% of all statistics are made up on the spot...
bradlees@reddit
7/10 of the time it works every time
WumpusFails@reddit
A million to one odds succeed all the time. But it has to be EXACTLY a million to one... (Discworld reference.)
ProfessionalRabbit87@reddit
82.5% of people believe ‘em whether they’re accurate statistics or not.
8oD@reddit
9 out of 10 dentists think #10 needs to chill out.
yokeekoy@reddit
10
Brilliant-While-761@reddit
I got this. But 10 out of 1010 wont
workitloud@reddit
Want.
billocity@reddit
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard."
Kewkky@reddit
Ah, the old George Santos defense. "I didn't mean Bachelors of Science, I meant Bull Shit"
itisallgoodyouknow@reddit
Can confirm, I was there while they walked across the stage.
Different_Salary3819@reddit
I was also there. Had a study group with them.
BUBBLEHEADSS@reddit
Why not the Obama's got away with it>
Garey_Coleman@reddit
Yea you are cooked. When my company did a background check, my college information was in some kind of database when they showed the report to me.
sidneywidney@reddit
I have a cousin who somehow obtained forged transcripts and a pdf copy of a degree and was hired from a place who did a background check. They called the college and the college literally said they had no record of him and my cousins job was like, “huh, that’s weird.” And then still hired him. He did get fired a few months later but it was performance related, not fake degree related.
thegoldenshepherd@reddit
Maybe the performance issues were related to the degree issues?
deadlygaming11@reddit
No no, completely seperate. His cousin was just so amazing at his job that they couldn't keep him.
kaf678@reddit
Please give us an update on this, keen to know what happens and best of luck!
deadlygaming11@reddit
Depends on the background check. If it's a criminal one, you'll be fine as that just flags any crimes. If its a full check which also brings back your qualifications, then you're screwed. Do be aware that you are also committing fraud and if the company finds out, they will fire you and likely sue you to hell as all work you would have done is tainted.
dimonqui@reddit
“They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said I had a theoretical degree in physics. They said welcome aboard.”
Fresh-Start011005@reddit
Who did the backround checks for transcript? I recently was in a similar situation. Desperate for a new job I lied and said I had a college degree. Company did back round check on my transcript. I literally showed my own transcript with barely a high school diploma. It took 4 days after a dumb discrepancy of not finding the school and they still gave me the job.
My position was for sales so I definitely understand different situation but i do not think all hope is lost. Good luck my friend
Temporary-Try-8999@reddit
for educational purposes i’m surely not going to do anything with the info i’m asking for a friend but where can i get those fake transcript:v ?
Austanator77@reddit
Why do people keep fucking up on the one thing you don't do when lying resumes. DONT LIE ABOUT SHIT THAT IS EASILY VERIFIED
Frequent-Ant-7617@reddit
Hope it works out for you!
wobster109@reddit
What do you mean you “bought” college transcripts? Is this just a PDF file that got emailed to you, and the money is to make it look professional?
In any case, I think you’re cooked. I’m guessing what you bought is just a fancy PDF. So you’ve got your own word and your own documents propping up your lie, but no one else can verify it for you.
IMO it’s not worth it. You’ve delayed the rejection, but you haven’t benefited in the end.
Key_Drawer_3581@reddit
All of my jobs with successful mega corporations have done a 100% background check: education, scholarships that I claimed, awards that I claim, actual degree, GPA, every single job, every single salary, and every reference.
I'm a chemical engineer.
Swirls109@reddit
I only hesitate because I worked at a very large telecom company that what HQd in a small town. We had management shakeups and background checks were done on mgmt. Some of our directors were fired for false education claims. One of our requirements to move to director was a masters and some had just faked it. They had like 20 years with the company and were just booted.
atilathehyundai@reddit
That seems stupid on the part of both the company and the people.
GiftRecent@reddit
I thought this was a tips page not a "i messed up what do I do page" ...
flashlightgiggles@reddit
I got a 2-year degree from Heald. when my current employer did a background check, they couldn't verify my associate degree.
Ill_Concentrate5230@reddit
Updateme!
Paddy32@reddit
!remind me 2 weeks did OPw get the job?
NotThatKindOfDoctor9@reddit
I have a friend who does background checks for her job. She's always laughing about all the dumbasses who lie about their educational background, it's the easiest thing to check.
Cruzer2000@reddit
You’ll be fine
t-han72@reddit
I work for a small bank and they couldn’t get the large state university I went to to send my transcript so they had me snap a photo and email it to them lmao… I’d say 50/50 shot, they either catch you or they don’t!
Dopdee@reddit
I thought background checks call the university for verification. I don’t think they ask you for the transcripts.
Background checks call companies just verify if the info you supply is true and give the hiring company a report. You may be able to argue and say they’re wrong and show the transcripts, but I’d assume you wouldn’t get the chance. They may just deny you and move on to the next candidate.
But hopefully the hiring manager likes you enough to ask about a discrepancy. Just be like “that’s weird. I think I have my transcripts here somewhere. Let me go look for them and I’ll share them”
Beermedear@reddit
A lot of third party background check companies work on automated checks via APIs.
When the first attempt fails, their operation process may be to call the employer/university/school.
If that fails or is unavailable, they may request official documents from the candidate.
That’s sort of a black box and not sure how much they’ll scrutinize it.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
this is the exact scenario I have played in my head when they ask for clarification, trying to be prepared!
Gotohealth@reddit
So you got through the technical interview just fine? Kinda crazy how that works. I’ve gotten my ass beat in technicals before and I have a CS degree. You might be cooked though not gonna lie
SimpleServe9774@reddit
At my biotech company if you list a degree on your CV. They check that you attended and graduated with date. If you misrepresent - you’re cooked.
HoytG@reddit
Very cooked.
ulele1925@reddit
Nobody has ever asked me for transcripts
jesusmansuperpowers@reddit
Most of the time a background check doesn’t pull transcripts. Even the ones that do criminal, credit check, work history, and prior residency.
Jigglytep@reddit
I would not sweat it. It will be fine.
Chaserivx@reddit
I hope they get you. Liar
Hinote21@reddit
Buying the transcripts won't show up on the background check. And IIRC, background checks don't even show stuff like colleges? Most companies use a cheap third party for the background check and it's basically just criminal history but only from 7 years back, AND only multiple states if they pay for it.
One-Humor-4284@reddit
Do you know if school background is the same? I put I graduated over 30 years ago out side of the US. Always scared it will come up.
Hinote21@reddit
Anything outside the US will never show up. They only have access to records readily available. As some other comments mentioned, sometimes there are educational checks included as well but I would bet good money if it's a person doing the check, they aren't calling another country and if it's a computer, it would be unlikely to find it even if it did exist.
rocketklinkhammer@reddit
i signed a form allowing my company to access my foreign university as part of a background check.
blind-fruitbat@reddit
In that instance, we ask for a copy of your diploma. If you don’t have one, we’ll just flag it as not performed due to XYZ.
Always0421@reddit
Im a hiring manager for a regional company.
We hire a third party company for background checks - they ABSOLUTELY do verify education.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
my intention was to provide 'proof' of completion, thus the fake documentation. From my research, the criminal background check should only take 3-5 business days. Im hoping they only check for that, but seems highly unlikely
bobruss_354@reddit
I’ve had multiple background checks for FAANG companies. The school I did actually graduate from can never verify my degree. I always have to provide a copy of my transcripts and send a copy of my diploma myself and it’s always been fine. You may be ok.
colin_7@reddit
Depending on the background check you have to put the college (if applicable). I assume they do a cross reference with the school. I know for a fact that if you put work history, you need to put a contact number for your prior employment and they typically reach out to verify prior employment.
This isn’t Walmart where they just make sure you don’t have a felony, they’re hiring OP for a skilled position, they don’t want to waste money on a fraud
Hinote21@reddit
Yea. In the US at least, there are two major entities for academic verification. It's not difficult to pull that info but it still has to be requested.
Soup-yCup@reddit
I got a background check for my current job and they did an education check as well. It’s super easy since most schools have departments dedicated to this
Hinote21@reddit
To my understanding, that's still a separate check they have to do, even if it's by the same third party company running the check. A good number of jobs don't care about the actual degree, just that one exists. But I believe the education info doesn't show up on the background check (could be company dependent).
ShortRound_01@reddit
Right! I used to be HR adjacent so I know what they would ask. They only did educational background checks for the Manager Trainee program because it was required you have a BA. Any other position was a standard 7 year BG check. If I remember correctly, on the job listing it stated what BG checks they do.
@OP, can you call and ask how it would work if the school is closed? Like ask like you are curious versus worried.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
They know that my university is closed down in a very brief conversation from the first interview
Running4Coffee2905@reddit
My sister had to produce her diploma and they verified she actually earned the degree directly from the university for accounting job because the guy they had hired then fired had lied about having a degree. I have had to have transcripts sent by each university for associate/ bachelor’s/masters degree for most of my jobs as nurse/nurse practitioner because there are nurse imposters ( check Texas board of nursing they post pictures of imposters) . For Texas nurse practitioner license I had to have the current director sign affidavit saying I completed the NP program along with official transcript.
DankPandas@reddit
Fake it until you make it
daddydarkskin@reddit
Ex-recruiter, HM, & background checker here. If it’s a Sterling background check, they will ask for EVERYTHING if it doesn’t automatically come back. It comes to us as flags, via email. They will literally ask you for a picture of your highschool diploma, paystubs and tax info from 5 years ago. Transcripts should work, but the issue may arise from them being “unofficial” because you have them.
Throwawaysnore@reddit
I work for a university, specifically in the registrars office, and process transcript requests daily. For shut down colleges they have to have someone still managing the records sides of things, sometimes the DOE or the accreditation service takes over or another university, it just depends. I get two or three 3rd party requests from background checking services to verify degrees. Just keep that in mind. They might also be able to tell if the transcripts are unofficial because of the registrars seal and such. Good luck!
ilegendi@reddit
Just don’t do it for a government job.
Lil_Lurkin_Larry@reddit
Delay as long as possible. When I was investigated for resume fraud, I kept causing delays with the 3rd party so long that by the time the fraud was uncovered, I was already trained and excelling in the role.
The hiring manager decided it was easier to just keep me around. This was a Fortune 50 company circa 2020. Still there and now clearing $200k while wfh. Best lie I ever told.
wikes82@reddit
you gotta fake it till you make it
Sweet_T_The_Original@reddit
The education verification of a background check typically goes directly through the school you’ve told them your degree is from. So, yeah, they’re gonna find out.
screwedupmind@reddit
You should be fine. I have been both at applying and hiring ends of the jobs.
While hiring, we actually don't care about degrees. The background check is usually for criminal background and address verifications. Sometimes we call references but even then that's ignored most of the times. If the hiring manager selected you for the job, you should be good. Unless this is your first job fresh out of school or internship, then education verification is done. If you have prior experience and can provide reference that should be fine.
Again please take with a grain of salt, YMMV. Good luck.
RogueNtheRye@reddit
Your good. I've been working under a dark web masters degree for a decade.
RogueNtheRye@reddit
Yeah, dude, I wish I could tell people soon bad. Im ice cold at my job, and all it took was a general interest in the subject matter, internet access, and crippling insomnia. I feel so bad for the people who work under me. They just don't know shit and owe 100,000 to a cohort of assholes that were supposed to educate them.
daveyjones86@reddit
Cool
SaltBedroom2733@reddit
It’s too late now so whatever you do, do not get all crazy and start confessing to them.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
that is at the bottom of the list- gotta have a good poker face in tough times!
leftieaz@reddit
This can forever haunt you if you end up working with a pretense of having said credentials. I had a coworker that worked for several years at this company. Something happened (perhaps pre merger vetting), he was suddenly put on administrative leave. In his particular situation he was on a HB1 visa, so he had to immediately return back to Toronto till things got figured out. I never saw him return back to the company.
awill316@reddit
probably did him a favor at this point
acol0mbian@reddit
You got desperate after 6 weeks? Some people have been out jobs for over a year homie
mflintjr@reddit
Took me 6 months.
EatAPeach2023@reddit
You are fine. Incredibly unlikely that the background check is for anything other to figure out if you are a felon or a sex pest or anything like that
lokicramer@reddit
Not cooked. I've never had an employer actually try to prove my degree.
Background check is a criminal check.
blind-fruitbat@reddit
How the background screening company I work for operates is that most colleges are through third party verification. Most colleges go through the National Student Clearinghouse or Degree Verify in the US as well. When colleges are closed and no longer exist, we ask for transcripts or a copy of the diploma if it cannot be found in third party databases. We then scrutinize the crap out of any documents you send to verify for legitimacy.
elizajaneredux@reddit
You may or may not be cooked. Of the background check confirms your degree with the institution on the transcript, you’re fucked (they do that at my institution). If it’s just a criminal check, you should be fine.
Be careful - this could become an issue years from now.
MassiveBoner911_3@reddit
I have had many technical jobs. None have ever checked if my degree is real (it is).
Bananabean041@reddit
If they find out, you’re screwed for college
srslydudebros@reddit
Closed down school is a dead end. I had a background check company that wasn’t able to confirm my HS that is still open in the same place. It was just in the report as unconfirmed and that was the end of it. You should be fine.
Would 100% not do this for a cleared position, they will chase everything down completely, never lie there ever.
EGOtyst@reddit
If you get find out what are the consequences? Nothing really. You just don't get a job. The liklihood they tell others about you is low.
zer04ll@reddit
should be fine most background checks companies do are basic ones unless youre going for C-Suite or are handling lots o money.
pitpot84@reddit
Can DM where you got the transcripts from? Facing diff in finding a new job too.
writtenwordyes@reddit
I had no idea you could buy this. Does it come with a degree?
danknadoflex@reddit
How much work experience did you have prior?
TheJokersWild53@reddit
What’s the worst thing that happens, you don’t get the job? Just have confidence and learn as much technical coding knowledge as you can.
Delta8ttt8@reddit
West case they figure it out and you don’t get the job. And from there you gain some experience if you wanna try this endeavor again.
LawGroundbreaking221@reddit
This isn't just unethical I believe this is illegal. You're committing fraud.
Jadedcelebrity@reddit
Are you a witness in the Karen Reed trial?
Unique_Squirrel@reddit
I think this may be Shanon with one “N”!
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
no but the irony is so funny, thanks for the laugh
FracturedFragipans@reddit
Most background checks are for crimes and stuff. Unless the checker specifically asked about your education, you will be in the clear until such time management determines you lied
Whyte_Dynamyte@reddit
Ride it out, mi amigo. It’ll either blow up in your face or it won’t. If it does, say you’re gonna get to the bottom of it. NEVER ADMIT THE LIE.
joeldg@reddit
It worked in Suits! Of course he had a hacker go in and actually add him in there to fix the huge plot hole…
kblaney@reddit
Also Harvard is not a closed down school. Also law is a licensed profession where as SWEs are not.
Olive0121@reddit
So idk in other fields, but we have education verifications. Generally that is different than a background check. Which one are they doing?
Also sounds like a Vandlay Industries situation.
HotButtdumplings@reddit
Didn’t work out for George O’Leary but he did make it 5 days at Notre Dame before he “resigned”. Just go with it at this point. There’s no going back.
RipCertain7580@reddit
I make fake degrees and transcripts for people all the time. I usually tell people to get transcripts from a university that is no longer operational
Timely_Bluebird4977@reddit
Where you get those transcripts?
RipCertain7580@reddit
I make them
RangerCowboy1234@reddit
Where to purchase fake stuff?
RipCertain7580@reddit
I make them. Send me a DM
bridgebrningwildfire@reddit
Please!
ahoveringhummingbird@reddit
I want to know where you bought it! I always put that I just didn't graduate.
I figure that you probably wouldn't have been selected for the role without the lie, so if you get found out and don't get the role you're no worse off. But if they don't check it and you get the job it's totally worth the risk.
RipCertain7580@reddit
I make them
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
Dm me!
ahoveringhummingbird@reddit
TY!
Kaeyon@reddit
Honestly.. do you.. I've been laid off since June 2024, and what I've learned is that most companies don't care enough about your education to run a background check that deep. Most of the time its gonna be a criminal check.
I've applied for jobs where they do want some education, and every one of them asked to upload the transcripts during the application process itself.
That said, glad you're able to land an offer so quickly.. its been almost a year for me after working as a software engineer at a top fortune 50 company for 3 years (total 9 years with the company), have a (real lol) bachelor's degree, and currently pursuing my Master's in cybersecurity. I cant get shit.. so good on you lol.
Tricky_Bottle_6843@reddit
I made it to senior year of engineering. Would a fake transcript work for me? I just want a job in engineering and finishing my degree absolutely isn't in the cards right now but I know what I need to know to work in my field. And wouldn't a background check show I did attend my university?
Longbeachyyy@reddit
Double down. Look for old assignments/study guides related to the type of work you'll be doing. That way, you'll actually begin to familiarize yourself with things to expect in this job along with dated work to fit your hybrid courses. Why hybrid? You'll be able to have wiggle room for your whereabouts if they question past it. No matter what, don't fold. Take offense to their doubts. Hell, even ask if they offer tuition reimbursement or assistance on your student loans.
ButterMilkHoney@reddit
What job is it for?
IThoughtILeftThat@reddit
Withdraw. Found a new opportunity, sick relative, family emergency, discovered an island…. Whatever, but disengage.
grundelcheese@reddit
I doubt it is going to be an issue. Most background checks done by employers do not include education. When you filled out the background check in for did you give them the name of the college?
Keep this silent. Know that if there is ever an employment dispute they can use this to fire you for cause which would stop you from collecting unemployment. It can be best to get this job, gain some experience, then start looking for another job while still employed. That new job you likely won’t need to lie on a resume.
itisallgoodyouknow@reddit
RemindMe! 14 days
cookiecutie707@reddit
Put the name of a recently closed school on the transcripts. No way to verify. Done and dusted.
the_grumpiest_guinea@reddit
Many schools send their records to a clearing house of some sort. I had to get transcripts from them, not my school, even though the school is up and running.
LatrellThreewell@reddit
I run HR and I almost never do education verification in my background checks unless it’s for an exec but my company is broke
External_Bike2321@reddit
Worst case scenario, you work this job a while you get the job experience and then you get fired
But at least now you have this job as something to put on your résumé
So in a way you win no matter what
colin_7@reddit
OP hasn’t started work yet. That’s how background checks work…
uninspired@reddit
Not always. I once had a job for a month or two before they submitted the background check (I was hired by an acquaintance so I didn't ever even fill in an application or submit a resume). I was scared when they finally got around to it because I was making back payments to the IRS for unpaid taxes and thought about how embarrassing it would be to get walked out by security if i failed the background check (I didn't fail and ended up working there for seven years)
External_Bike2321@reddit
Exactly
And college background checks work differently then other background checks
noodlesofdoom@reddit
If they use the clearing house thing (idr what exactly) you’ll not be getting that job.
Critical-Degree-1354@reddit
My bad; by the comments here I’m finding out people are filthy, non repentant phonies. I got my credentials the old fashioned way. I guess when I hire a professional to help me I’d better ask them if they bought or forged their degrees. Absolutely reprehensible.
ShortRound_01@reddit
Look we all know the system is cooked. You pay for 4 years for a degree that MOST of the time only gets you measly pay until you get experience and move on. Most of the time, because they have been at school, they don’t have any real experience. Yet a person can work 4 years learning the ropes and not have a degree yet the person with the degree will get hired. How is that fair?
By the way, do you know what sub you’re on?
AnalogJones@reddit
I had an HR person flatly admit that the degree justs gets you in the door for an interview. That’s all.
Right or wrong it is life. In the 70s college set you apart because most people were only high school grads. These days they make college a requirement for certain jobs but after you get hired, you are now in with others who have a degree so the value is gone.
So, yea, it is a bad deal but without it there is mediocre incomes.
gogozrx@reddit
when companies value a piece of paper over experience and ability, it should be unsurprising that people will forge that paper. If that paper is the gatekeeper, then yeah, it's obviously going to be suspect.
mag1cal_myst3ry@reddit
By your comment here I'm finding out you have no idea what subreddit you're on. Absolutely reprehensible.
redditisfacist3@reddit
Probably fine if the college closed down
glorificent@reddit
Most background check providers rubber stamp the college verification anyway, especially Checker. Maybe there’ll be a flag for “unable to verify”, and recruiters stop looking. Or they’ll accept your transcripts and mark this as unable to be verified
Add this on your LinkedIn, and connect to that now-down school to make it look official.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
two steps ahead of ya, that bad boy is already on my LinkedIn
glorificent@reddit
I recommend you part-time attend any degree program that works. As your career grows and yoh age, it gets harder to find jobs and background checks may get tougher. Good luck
AnalogJones@reddit
They absolutely get tougher. First gig I made where my pay crossed to $120k and I was checked again by the same company that promoted me.
Want a flashy cybersecurity job where you are responsible for global threat prevention? How does anyone know they can trust you? They test your integrity by confirming what you did in the past can be validated…and they may check your social media.
I got a job that someone lost because of how they behaved online
AnalogJones@reddit
The thing about lying is that you never know when it will blow up. It may not be on this job and you may survive for a long while, all while living a lie. But you gotta make sure you keep it all straight. If you decide to be truthful to a date who you get close to…now you have to remember to keep work and personal lives separate. Lots of professional small talk can veer off in unpredictable ways. One minute you are at dinner with another couple (a boss from work you are trying to impress). College football is on the TV by the bar and you start bonding with the boss over the hotshot freshman QB…next thing you know your boss is reliving his old frat days and asks you about college. Your girl says “my bright guy is self made! No fancy school for him and he made it all this way” Odd, your boss thinks, now that he knows you are a fraud. Living a lie is the wrong way to go.
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
this is literally the plan. I am a college dropout but it wasn't for CS, i used to think it was nerdy but look at how Im eating those words present day
glorificent@reddit
Ok: did you connect it to that school to get their official logo onto your LinkedIn page also? If so: A+
dogsnwubz@reddit
Everyone lies on their resumes. I hope they just do a criminal background check!! Come back and let us know what happens!
StatusAmazing4506@reddit
Purchasing fake transcripts and using them to falsely claim you have a university degree when applying for a job can be a crime in many jurisdictions. Hopefully the employer doesn’t find out. If they do find out they will probably just fire you. If they’re salty about it, they could report the crime to law-enforcement. You should check your local city, county, and state laws regarding this type of thing.
Visual_Owl_2348@reddit
You could work for Aperture LLC. They hire people with shoddy CVs. Or at least did up until a few days ago.
beardedwithchildren@reddit
Depends on the company. The National Student Clearinghouse could be a problem. Most companies outsource background checks and most of the verifications come from automated systems and data brokers. The worst thing to happen is they rescind the offer. Im not sure I would produce the forged transcripts if any questions are asked. The fake transcript might buy you sometime but if there are any significant red flags someone will probably dig into it further. You risk onboarding, starting work, then getting fired once they figure it out. The best long term strategy is to avoid anyone digging into anything and gain enough experience where it becomes irrelevant.
Gargravars_Shoes@reddit
You should just back out with dignity now. It’ll be over your head every day you walk in their door. Don’t live like that. Get that degree and then get the job.
yaketyslacks@reddit
Well if they ask you did say it was. BS (bullshit) computer science degree 😬
StrawberryShelby898@reddit (OP)
you're so right
ole87@reddit
You should be all Good
NimbusPhenom@reddit
Give us an update when you get one!
Little_Bishop1@reddit
Of course Mike Ross
Critical-Degree-1354@reddit
The worst thing actually is u getting the job and being found out later. Instant termination for cause. If you can back out and start over, I believe you would be better off. Falsified education will hang over your head as long as you use it and gets harder and harder to get out from under it,
AnnoyedVelociraptor@reddit
Should it fail, get a transcript from a European university that has English classes. Those don't show up on background checks, and are way harder to verify.
celerypooper@reddit
Start at job A and keep it only until you move on to job B… keep recycling jobs for the experience every 1-3 years and keep getting higher salaries. The annoying part is you will constantly have to continue applying to jobs every week but if you’re going to forge a degree then you simply cannot stay at the same place for more then a few years as they will eventually find out
Illustrious-Load-919@reddit
You’re fucked