Ex-Israeli general hits out at government for 'killing babies as a pastime' in Gaza
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Private_HughMan@reddit
Wow. I can't believe this native-born Jewish Israeli Knesset member, former IDF Deputy Chief of Staff who was awarded 4 campaign ribbons is such an anti-semite! /s
RedTulkas@reddit
Probably hamas
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Suddenly we like Golan? Golan is literally more of a hawk than Netanyahu. Golan wanted to go after Hamas in 2007 and called Netanyahu a coward for not dealing with Hamas after the second intifada
FudgeAtron@reddit
Totally agree, watching them all champion Golan is kinda nuts. I like Golan but I don't want him to become a foreign interests candidate.
If the West wants him to do well they should stay the fuck away from the next election.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Nobody champions anything, people are just finally happy to see some Israelis finally able to speak their mind and not worry about the negative consequences
FudgeAtron@reddit
Lol. Israelis have been saying shit like this for a while, you lot just don't talk to the actual Israeli left. Instead you focus on the extreme left or the extreme right.
The fact this is the first time Golan has even been mentioned in international media is just evidence that the left is not the focus of the international media.
Hahahaha. The West treats everything like sports and cheers their team and jeers the opposite team and with the amount of media attention this got, I expect the same.
I've had enough of foreign interests influencing our politics, the Republicans have done enough we don't need the US Democrats trying to influence our politics too.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
What are you on about?
People have been speaking out against the Israeli government’s actions and people who support said actions.
We know there are people in Israel that are against this, we hear their voices, they make an actual effort to be heard… i’m not sure why we’re arguing over the same thing?
This constant self victimization doesn’t help anyone, nobody suddenly thinks Golan is a hero or reasonable, we’re just happy that someone with at an official capacity in Israel has been able to say something like this and that the west is finally actually reporting it.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
I mean Golan is literally a hero
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
To Israelis maybe.
To the rest of us, he’s just the first official voice we’ve been able to hear calling things out.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Yes, he is a hero to us because he saved hundreds of people. Why the fuck would anyone else care about that?
lucid-node@reddit
Good for you. He also participated in the genocide that killed 10s of thousands of people. Starved them. And used Palestinians as human shields with his neighbor protocol.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
He retired in 2018.
lucid-node@reddit
My bad, was thinking of Yoav Gallant.
Bannerlord151@reddit
Isn't that even more in favour of this point? If even infamous war hawk Golan is saying "Holy shit, calm down and stop committing atrocities", that shows us just how far Netanjahu is going
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
I don’t disagree with his point, I just find the hypocrisy of people online claiming liberal Zionists are no better than Nazis and then bringing up Golan when it fits their side.
Bannerlord151@reddit
If they're actually being hypocritical about it I get that but a lot of the time people bring up things like this as a "gotcha" without considering the Nuance.
If a zionist speaks out against Netanyahu, an anti-Zionist quoting them to show "even his own side is turning against him, it's *that bad" isn't hypocritical. One can respect someone else's right to an opinion, accept it as relevant, and still disagree.
LawsonTse@reddit
TBF 2007 was probably a better time to go after Hamas than last year, before Hamas fortified Gaza
DanDan1993@reddit
we like everyone who says a random "looks-like" pro-Palestinian quote even if people have no idea who that person is. as far as i remember he was one of the last few division commanders that authorized "neighbour protocol" which is a nice code for human shields.
but hey he's against bibi and the war so he must be a good guy!
(for the record i might vote for him given he won't commit political suicide in the next year)
ParagonRenegade@reddit
Your country doesn’t exactly have a deep bench of noble people, you’re mass murdering ethnonationalists who have entered a collective hysteria like Nazi Germany or Rhodesia. Everyone has to scramble to give you the benefit of the doubt.
You shouldn’t look forwards to the rapidly approaching time where they stop doing that.
DanDan1993@reddit
Can you name a Palestinian noble person so I can understand how you judge this criteria?
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Many of the innocent babies that are maimed and bombed are quite noble in my eyes, as well as the many surgeons and doctors and lawyers in palestine.
But people like you are convinced that everyone in gaza are terrorists, so you say stupid crap all the time.
DanDan1993@reddit
So Israeli babies are inherently noble like palestinians?
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Of course they wouldn’t say Kfir Bibas are inherently noble
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Why wouldn’t we? What world do you live in where you think people opposed to Israel’s mass murder and ethnic cleansing is ok with Israeli babies dying?
Netanyahu and smotrich have scared you into being extremely irrational.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Probably the amount of people either excusing, justifying, or lying about how they are murdered. Maybe that makes me think “irrationally” the amount of people justifying or supporting those two innocent Israeli ambassadors proves my point
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
What do all the dead and starving children because of Israel’s actions make you think?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Babies are innocent. Palestinians killing Israeli babies is horrible. Israelis killing Palestinian babies is expected because “there are no innocents in Gaza.”
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
There are definitely innocents in Gaza, nice strawman though
gemini56_@reddit
its a good thing YOU think that, a shame that the government and IDF doesnt, so its a moot point
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
The Israeli government vehemently disagrees with you, as does most of the Israeli population.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Of course they are, it’s just that there are significantly more babies dying every day that aren’t Israeli.
Why would you assume otherwise?
ParagonRenegade@reddit
I won’t be doing that, because it’s a deflection.
Israel is a democratic country (if a bad one) do what it does is squarely at your feet. And what I see, what I see get polled, is Israelis committing mass murder and supporting it by supermajority standards. Those few that oppose the war largely do so due to its effects on Israel, not because of their atrocities.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
“Those few opposing the war” https://www.timesofisrael.com/69-of-israelis-54-of-coalition-voters-back-ending-war-in-exchange-for-hostages-poll/amp/
I know you have a cartoonishly evil way to look at Israelis but next time at least try to pretend you have any idea what the Israeli people think before shitting complete nonsense out of your mouth. Thanks buddy.
ParagonRenegade@reddit
They oppose it on grounds of harming Israel and Israeli interests, not because they give a shit about the Palestinians. They were consumed with the same racial warmongering hysteria on October 7 as America was following 9/11. Israelis have done nothing to stop their brutalization of Palestine and its people.
Maybe when your country stops electing your genocidal government coalition for the umpteenth time I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
The problem is, you lied and said only a few oppose the war and now when proven wrong you just backtrack and say they only oppose it for Israeli interests even though there are protestors that hold up photos of dead Palestinian kids alongside israeli ones. Why lie? And by the way, warmonger hysteria is a perfectly understandable reaction to 5000 terrorists storming your country, murdering, looting, taxing, burning, raping, and kidnapping your people. I know you probably don’t have that personal experience so it’s hard for you to understand
your_red_triangle@reddit
sounds like you support Hamas then, seeing as that's exactly what The IDF have done for the last 70+ years.
congratulations you played yourself
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
God, you’re so dumb, it wasn’t about support or not, it was about an understandable reaction to a terrorist attack
your_red_triangle@reddit
yes, again you're making a strong case to understand the reaction of people when IDF commit terrorist attacks. Which they have been doing for 70+ years.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Quick question, has the idf ever committed a single action that resulted in 1200 deaths?
your_red_triangle@reddit
yes the action of commitment genocide in Gaza has resulted in the death of up to 186,000 or even more, that's according to [Lancet](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext) back in July 2024. so the number is likely even more higher now.
You keep making a strong case. well done, keep going.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Is that a single act?
ParagonRenegade@reddit
A supermajority of Israelis, with a proportionally higher share among Jewish Israelis, supported the resumption of the war against few months ago. So no, you’re wrong, there’s no back tracking.
And no, their attitudes towards the war are by-and-large them not liking the repercussions and failures of the e campaign, not the campaign itself. Israel was and is a deeply racist society and continues its campaign of ethnic cleansing with utter impunity with broad support.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Again. That is irrelevant. You said that only a few want to end the war. That’s wrong, why are you back tracking so much? Just accept you were wrong.
ParagonRenegade@reddit
That's not irrelevant, you're literally just wrong. The majority (supermajority amongst Jews) of Israelis supported the continuation of the war. Those that do oppose the war overwhelmingly (1:4) do not support the two state solution and Palestinian independence. They just want the war to end because it's destroying the country, they don't actually want an end to the bloodshed or oppression.
So please, stow it. Your "left" is completely captured by ethnonationalism.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
It is absolutely irrelevant. We aren’t talking about what Israelis thought in the past, we are talking about what Israelis think now. Again, do you need me to link the poll?
cutwordlines@reddit
the victimhood drips from your comment
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Uh yeah. There hasn’t been a Canadian 9/11 or October 7th, so yeah. They don’t have a personal experience to that. It’s not about victimhood or not.
DanDan1993@reddit
By this logic all Israeli kids are noble men too, yet you said there are no noble men in Israel? Why are Palestinian babies inherently noble but Israeli not?
Why won't you name them?
your_red_triangle@reddit
only you see kids as men, that way you can murder them in cold blood and call them "fighters"
explains a lot
ParagonRenegade@reddit
I never said there are no good Israelis. There were good people in Nazi Germany.
Outside of one-off stories, they don’t matter, because the core of the nation is so morally disgusting. You have an openly far right and genocidal government, and the opposition doesn’t care about its victims either.
Get back to me when you elect a first grader to a cabinet post or military office. Make him a colonel to continue the illustrious tradition of Israeli rank inflation. Get a quote.
photochadsupremacist@reddit
Ghassan Kanafani, George Habash, Mohammed Al Kurd, Mahmoud Darwish, many resistance fighters that fought for liberation, Sherine Abu Akleh, all the other journalists who were assassinated, Basel Adra, Hamdan Ballal.
DanDan1993@reddit
By this logic Yair Golan falls under the same category as Kanafani, as well as Israeli journalist for coming forward with Sde Timan story?
So does Israel not have noble men?
photochadsupremacist@reddit
No? As other have said, Yair Golan is a war hawk.
There are good Israelis, and the thing in common in all of them is that they oppose the occupation and the current genocide (for the ones that are still alive).
DanDan1993@reddit
and you listed actual terrorists in your list, so me equating them with Golan is pretty much on par with your ideas IMO. weird you think terrorists aren't war hawks?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson%27s_Field_hijackings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lod_Airport_massacre
photochadsupremacist@reddit
I didn't see the name "George Habash" in either of the Wiki articles.
And resistance fighters aren't warhawks, they fight for freedom, not domination.
DanDan1993@reddit
"In the 1970 Dawson's Field hijackings, Habash masterminded the hijackings of four Western airliners to Jordan, which led to the Black September conflict, and his subsequent exile to Lebanon"
It's literally in his wikipedia page. Also he founded the PFLP, who committed these terror attacks........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsTvKKYFyoA
fits pretty well here, doesn't it? for both sides
photochadsupremacist@reddit
I didn't read every single word in the article about the Dawson's Field Hijackings but I searched for "George" and "Habash" and couldn't find any mention of his name.
In the article about Habash, the part you quoted doesn't have a single reference.
Doesn't work at all, considering a rebel fights against the system which is imposed on them by the enemy. Only one side is doing so.
DanDan1993@reddit
Weird you ignored the fact he was the leader of the organization who did the hijacking... were the terrorist rouge and he denounced them?
"When George Habash was elated over his hijackings success of the late 1960s and early 70s, he was interviewed by the German newspaper, Der Stern, and declared, '…'When we hijack a plane it has more effect than if we killed a hundred Israelis in battle'."
https://www.wincol.ac.il/wincol.ac.il/originals/Between%20Two%20Septembers.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_426
oops, he didn't. you actually have no idea your "noble" men laid the foundations to modern terrorism of hijacking planes.
photochadsupremacist@reddit
Ok, cool. He ordered the hijackings. He's a "terrorist".
Still a noble man fighting for a noble cause.
DanDan1993@reddit
So it is "your terrorist is my rebel". dude why are you commenting about things you clearly have no idea about? if in your list of "noble men" you have people you actually have no idea who they are.... something is wrong with your list.
Weird how you also fixated on him and ignored all other "terrorists" (did i do it right?) you mentioned.
photochadsupremacist@reddit
I only mentioned 1 person who would be considered a terrorist, unless you genuinely think Ghassan Kanafani was a terrorist which is an absurd position.
I'm well aware of who George Habash is and what he has done. Still think he is a noble man fighting for the liberation of his country from belligerent occupation. When fighting a much stronger enemy who is intent on oppressing you, not all actions will be "good", but the overarching goal is morally justifiable and the crimes of the enemy are much worse, and on a much bigger scale.
DanDan1993@reddit
Given you would claim IDF spokesman is also a terrorist, sorry but Kanafani is a terrorist as well if we use the same logic.
Also you are not aware who he is if you had no idea he revolutionized plane hijacking. your little rant on "not all actions are good" is laughable as you just justify terrorism. you're too deep in the hole of "one side good one side bad" its agonizing to see.
photochadsupremacist@reddit
I call all IDF soldiers terrorists. I think IDF spokespeople are terrible people, but not terrorists.
There is absolutely no definition of terrorism that would classify Ghassan Kanafani as a terrorist.
I am aware, don't worry about that.
What is the alternative to what you would call "terrorism"? What's laughable is someone from an occupying country thinking they can police the forms of resistance an occupied people can justifiably use.
We live in a world where systemic violence is completely acceptable, while resistance to said violence is treated as morally abominable. I genuinely don't care about the "terrorism" label. It's a meaningless word that's used to further one's political goals.
Palestinians are in no way perfect, but the level of evil Israel has displayed throughout its existence has overshadowed even the worst things Palestinians have done.
DanDan1993@reddit
"i call all idf terrorists", "soldiers in the IDF spokesman are not terrorist" you realize you contradict yourself?
Given Kanafani's job was to... be a spokesman of an organization that hijacks planes and commit to violent terrorism, one could argue he could labeled as a terrorist himself.
If you are aware... why did you search for his name in the dawson hijacking page? surely you understood that was his policy and his name all over the operation..................................... amazing how you double (triple? quadruple? where are we now?) down even though you have shown a fool of yourself.
Ever think there's a correlation between those dudes and the level of evil israel has displayed? almost like a circle of violence yet you clearly treat one side of the violent people as "freedom fighters", making them unable to break the circle. people like you are one of the biggest issue of this conflict.
Had these dudes targeted only IDF bases your argument could have some base, but these dudes hijacked civilian planes and committed terrorist attacks against civilians (maybe because they don't think anyone is a civilian?)... and your expectations is for israel to go "oh ok i was unfamiliar with your game, please we will escort ourselves back to where people killed us"?
photochadsupremacist@reddit
At least quote me correctly if you want to point out supposed contradictions.
I said "I call all IDF soldiers terrorists". As far as I know, spokespeople aren't soldiers.
And one would be wrong.
No, the biggest issue in the conflict is that zionists decided they should colonise a land that doesn't belong to them, and have kept denying the natives their human rights for 3 quarters of a century. The "cycle of violence" bullshit is a way to both-sides colonialism. I remember the videos from the documentary Tantura, where terrorists were describing how they massacred all men, and how they were raping teenagers.
And interesting fact about the hijackings, no one was killed and barely anyone was injured. I would say that's better than killing Israelis. Wouldn't you?
DanDan1993@reddit
Spokesman definitely are soldiers. they even have combat photographers in the unit that'll be deployed to field units.
https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/wars-and-operations/operation-protective-edge/combat-photographers-during-operation-protective-edge/
It really seems you are invested into something you have.... little amount of information about.
Also I waited for you to point out the "no one was killed so its fine" argument. You really had no idea until your deep dive now, did you?
Cheesen_One@reddit
Mohsen Mahdawi is a pretty huge, very good looking palestinian chad.
DanDan1993@reddit
I don't know much of his philosophy but he does look so far as an emerging moderate and achievable ideas type of guy. I was kinda aiming towards a Palestinian politician though, but thanks for the insight!
(was thinking about the emperor palpatine meme of "We will watch your career with great interest" and haven't really figured if its appropriate or not)
Cheesen_One@reddit
Mustafa Barghouti is probably the most moderate (rather based) palestinian politician I can think of. He is the only person making sense imo.
I don't think he's a chad politician. He isn't really headstrong enough for me to be that. He's in fact too reconciliatory and agreeable.
But he's a chad human being for sure.
Not only is he a doctor actively and personally providing medical assistance on the West Bank's front lines and partnering with Israeli Activist Groups, he, despite having been shot and and assaulted many times, still insists on peaceful resistance against Israel and actively participates in it.
Pretty cool.
Lz_erk@reddit
My sibling in mass murdering ethnonationalism, if you like Israel, thank an American Evangelical Christian. But no amount of hating it makes the comment you're replying to anti-Palestine... unless there's a much better option in some election. But hey I'm from the USA, I had to vote genocide lite again.
your_red_triangle@reddit
funny how you'll admit to using Human shields when it suits you.
DanDan1993@reddit
That was in 2007 and there's a reason that policy was abandoned. Can't say Hamas has advanced in their doctrine have we? or are we busy bashing only one side? maybe continuing to spread anti-semtic troupes like haridi dancing on 9\11? you love those
your_red_triangle@reddit
This wasn't 2007, this was 2024. see no one believes your lies.
The Israeli military has used Palestinians as human shields in Gaza - CNN
Israeli Army Uses Palestinian Civilians as human shields - haaretz
How Israel’s Army Uses Palestinians as Human Shields in Gaza - NYtimes
The FBI report clearly shows the evidence of Israeli being caught dancing watching the towers. Facts don't care about your bs accusations of anti-semitism.
And today the same terrorists dance on the hill and watch babies being murdered in Gaza.
DanDan1993@reddit
and CNN clearly showed footage of palestinians celebrating in the west bank, yet I don't see you pushing that angle?
And I talked about Yair Golan autherizing (HIMSELF) the use of human shields... my god can you read?
your_red_triangle@reddit
I showed you fresh evidence of IDF terrorists using human shields in the current genocide. dated 2024. do you know how dates work or are numbers too hard to understand for you? is because numbers are Arab so automatically Hamas in your eyes? 🤣
DanDan1993@reddit
I TALKED ABOUT YAIR GOLAN AS A PERSON. is that more clear? Yair Golan isn't part of the IDF in 2024.... "good neighbour" wasn't used in this war, something much worse was used. bet you didn't expect that, did you?
nice you ignored the first part :) where is your "palestinians celebrated 9\11" rant like your "da juice are happy the twins fall"?
your_red_triangle@reddit
I said Israelis, seeing as you love to boost about having a 20%+ population of Arabs, Christians and atheists, yet you just assumed it was accusing Jews?? Very Anti-semitic!
and what would be more worse than using Human shields?
DanDan1993@reddit
so where is your "Palestinians celebrated 9\11" rant? why are you avoiding answering this?
"good neighbour" was a protocol to get a human shield to knock on the door and get it opened. in current war IDF used human shield to study tunnels. IMO its worse. but its still side steeping the issue your reading skills are lacking and you failed to even understand what the grown ups are talking about.
your_red_triangle@reddit
show me the FBI report....
funny how you side step your Anti-semitic remarks. pathetic
DanDan1993@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZBy09vCVk
It's one google away from you....
Also Haridi people are inherently Jews. also me phrasing it like "juice" wasn't enough to portray the sarcastic tone?
Also:
https://www.thejc.com/news/world/who-were-the-dancing-israelis-of-9-11-c7f9b960
So you ready to climb down the tree of the dancing israeli's did 9\11?
your_red_triangle@reddit
that video proves nothing, finding some people celebrating the return of someone in a car and trying to link it to 9/11.
shit Hasbara, try again.
also using theJC lmao yeah very strong non bias zionist evidence there. 🤣
Still waiting on the FBI report
only anti-semities use juice instead to avoid being banned.
DanDan1993@reddit
....
I can't help you. Amazing how you resort to denial once one of your main points you use is both debunked and used in the same way with Palestinians instead of Israelis.
rattleandhum@reddit
broken clock is right twice a day.
Even Farage sometimes says something I agree with, doesn't mean I like him or support him.
The fact that one of the worst people in Israel is appalled by the actions of the IDF should shock you.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
How is Golan one of the worst people in Israel? Something tells me you don’t know anything about Golan
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
He’s a self-admitted war criminal with a long history of ordering atrocities. He’s ordered the use of human shields and bombing civilians. There are a bunch of atrocities that he is complicit in.
It is almost certainly fake outrage by him. He was ok with 15,000 Palestinian children being killed, but now that it’s 16,000 it’s too much? Absurd.
Cheesen_One@reddit
Going after Hamas before they were entrenched in Gaza, when Gaza's population density was lower and the PA was slightly better off, was a great idea in hinsight.
Or rather a great idea compared to the genocioid that his happening in Gaza rn.
The best idea is and always was for israel to learn how to dangle carrots
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Again, I like Golan 🤷
photochadsupremacist@reddit
The overton window in Israel is so far right that people like Golan sound almost reasonable in comparison.
Waffles86@reddit
The bar is so low for Israeli politicians that even war hawks get a pass if they stand up against starving babies
Level-Technician-183@reddit
I don't know the guy to talk about but netanyahu has been calling for wars or threat for some against hamas since he came in power but still supported them to stay and rule gaza. And i don't believe going after hamas needs to kill that much of civilians whether by netanyahu's rule or anyone else. Not then, not now, not ever.
Freud-Network@reddit
I wish the world would remember these monsters for what they are. I wish that every single soldier that put a bullet in someone in Gaza would suffer lifelong traumatic PTSD from it. They need to suffer a lifetime of guilt and shame for every life they took.
Unfortunately, this will be forgotten. Time will blunt it, and unfeeling monsters will never show remorse for the evil they have brought upon babies.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
So what do you think should happen to the palestinians that strapped bombs to children?
Freud-Network@reddit
Do you want to protect specific monsters or something? Fuck them, too, and fuck you for thinking anyone gets a pass.
Arrow156@reddit
The one and only temptation to return to religion is that I would have the comfort in knowing they will pay in the next life, if not this one.
Appropriate_Mode8346@reddit
If I saw Netanyahu in Jannah, I would rather burn in jahannam.
LowRevolution6175@reddit
This guy wasn't popular previously but he suicided his political career in Israel with those comments, my guess is this was some sort of 3D chess move to become a "high-profile opposition leader" for foreign governments to throw money at.
MoChreachSMoLeir@reddit
I'm extremely cynical about most "progressive" Israelis, but in this case, I don't think so. Most Western governments--the type of people he'd be interested in courting--are rabidly Zionist and not all that concerned with the genocide. I think the guy probably was fed up and spoke what he actually thought because he has the means to do so without too many negative repercussions.
historicusXIII@reddit
He's accused of blood libel by both the Israeli government and the other "moderate" Israeli opposition parties. He's socially dead.
LowRevolution6175@reddit
Who said he's trying to court western governments?
MagnanimosDesolation@reddit
Because Israeli generals aren't popular elsewhere...
Absolute_Satan@reddit
That's a part of Israeli political life since forever. The first rightwing government in Israel (if I remember correctly might be another close win between the right and the left in the 60s/70s) came to power by fabricating a massacre and accusing the established government of it. (Fabricating as in straight up lying about it) Israel itself had a significant pro palestinian political movement (not only the Israeli arab party but other more left parties) which kinda died down a little after 7/11 because the attacked settlements were the most left leaning ones with many people there being the ones handling aid, bilateral meetings between Israeli and Palestinian children, and medical treatment for those who can't get that treatment in Gaza. And now these people are the ones most heavily affected by the 7/11 attacks with the majority of them loosing friends, family or coworkers. PS I am not an Israeli but I know people from Israel including those politically well informed ~~hateful of Bibi~~ so this should be enjoyed with a grain of salt
Absolute_Satan@reddit
That's a part of Israeli political life since forever. The first rightwing government in Israel (if I remember correctly might be another close win) came to power by fabricating a massacre and accusing the established government of it. (Fabricating as in straight up lying about it) Israel itself had a significant pro palestinian political movement (not only the Israeli arab party but other more left parties) which kinda died down a little after 7/11 because the attacked settlements were the most left leaning ones with many people there being the ones handling aid, bilateral meetings between Israeli and Palestinian children, and medical treatment for those who can't get that treatment in Gaza. And now these people are the ones most heavily affected by the 7/11 attacks with the majority of them loosing friends, family or coworkers.
LeveCadeirada@reddit
Something very strange is happening right now. Despite this war being a popular topic on the headlines, left winged media in Brazil is not covering controversial statements such as this one and also that one from 2024 in which the finance minister of Israel said it was justified to intentionally starve 2 million people in Gaza.
So if I want to share news regarding these events in my mother tongue, I have to use one of the few conservative sources reporting them. In this case, the news story began with the prime minister's opinion.
Is anyone else experiencing that?
tohava@reddit
This is not the first time Golan talked like this. This is a quote from 2016:
"If there is one thing that is scary in remembering the Holocaust, it is noticing horrific processes which developed in Europe – particularly in Germany – 70, 80, and 90 years ago, and finding remnants of that here (in Israel) among us in the year 2016."
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
He walked that back
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Times up buddy, soon Israelis that have been opressed and forced into silence will also come out against all this and you will be left fighting ghosts on your own, only to say you were always against this in 10 years.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
The Israelis that “are forced into silence” have literally made careers into being anti-Israel, I don’t know what you are talking about lol
Away_team42@reddit
Bro is trying to rustle your jimmies mate
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Plenty weren’t able to speak out of fear of repercussions, I personally know a few.
Dunno why you keep making blanket statements with such confidence.
Imaginary-Chain5714@reddit
Oh nice, there are human rights groups they can go to that provide anonymity
tohava@reddit
If someone is saying things anonymously, it means he's afraid, I don't see the contradiction here.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Ok?
tohava@reddit
I don't know who you're talking about, but I'm sure that on the many small peripheral towns there are people who don't like Bibi and shut up about it because they know they'll get hounded by their families and friends and so on.
Just-another-weapon@reddit
Is it all just 'nothing to see here' in your opinion? Or is there indeed a serious problem with extremism, as that is how it seems from the outside. Certainly to anyone listening to current and past political rhetoric.
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huh? he carries that speech with great pride...
https://www.maariv.co.il/news/politics/article-831688
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