Asetek unveils Ingrid, new liquid cooling platform
Posted by kikimaru024@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 30 comments
Posted by kikimaru024@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 30 comments
GhostsinGlass@reddit
More e-waste from Arsetek.
Disposable non-serviceable products really grind my gears. I look at these with the same disdain as I do those damnable vapes.
While I am not a huge fan of Alphacool at least their "AIO" like the Eisbaer and Eiswolf are more akin to a custom loop in that you can service them, repurpose them, reconfigure them etc. Don't know if they have a DDC/D5 pump alternative to the DC-LT pump though.
HavocInferno@reddit
That DC-LT is replaceable actually.
(Though if you're at that point of manual work, just get yourself a better pump/res combo)
Capable-Silver-7436@reddit
alpha cool is so based
Positive-Bonus5303@reddit
this isn't new is it? the nzxt kraken - iirc an asetek - already has coolant temp controlled fanspeed/pumpspeed
GoombazLord@reddit
Yep, this existed all the way back in their Kraken X52/X62/X72 AiO, the first ones with the infinity mirror design.
Positive-Bonus5303@reddit
it's crazy that no aircooler is using this. To this day. They all try to tweak their max load cooling performance, while it would be so easy to minimize irl noise to a minimum, by using the cooler temp or air in-out temp, vs. the meaningless cpu temp.
I'm on the verge of designing it myself. Already got the hardware done for the most part and a good idea how to implement it. But the laziness~
Cruxius@reddit
Yeah, I really miss the built-in temperature probe inputs on my old mobo which let me put a sensor either side of my radiator and control my fans by temperature delta.
Having it built in is a great feature, since fan speed based on CPU temp is nonsensical for watercooling.
Positive-Bonus5303@reddit
It's also non sensical for air coolers. For super low thermal mass coolers it might be acceptable, as they can't buffer much anyways. But anything with a >=120mm fan shouldn't be cpu temp controlled.
BatteryPoweredFriend@reddit
With the mark-ups they charge for an onboard 7-segment display now, something like that would either only be available on $800+ mobos, or use some proprietory hub unit that costs at least $200 and requires their janky RGB control software package.
bizude@reddit
Arctic is working on a better solution.
throwsysadminaway@reddit
I would like to know more
bizude@reddit
I'm not bound by NDA, but I'm not sure if they would appreciate me speaking about these ideas yet. However, if you look on the forum comments from Arctic representatives on my LF3 Pro review - you'll get an idea of what we're thinking would be the best solution.
I'm sure whichever way they decide, it will be well-implemented.
GoombazLord@reddit
I think you're referring to this Tom's Hardware Arctic LF3 Pro review thread?
I took a screenshot of a comment made by the Technical Director of ARCTIC (unconfirmed). He discusses some of the difficulties in properly implementing a liquid temp sensor in AiOs; potential software requirements, additional USB/temp probe cables, etc. He points out that using CPU temp for fan control is simpler, and suggests it's more or less good enough. I did not get the impression that he was hinting at liquid temp sensors being added to upcoming products - he pretty much said they considered it and decided it wasn't worth the trouble.
bizude@reddit
You were so close! Go to the bottom of the page ;)
Correct. They're working on a better solution.
GoombazLord@reddit
I think he is hinting at something like hardware level hysteresis or extended fan ramp up speed. This would we be a welcome change to some, but is unlikely to satisfy anyone who wants an internal coolant temp probe. Anyone who wants those features right now can simply use Fan Control, SignalRGB, or AquaSuite.
Respectfully, it sounds like they are working on solution to a different problem that the one this comment chain was requesting (no temp probe).
Feath3rblade@reddit
Not Asetek, but my Corsair AIO also has a liquid temp sensor, so this isn't really new or unique
el_f3n1x187@reddit
if they could, you know....VANISH! I'd be really happy.
PanchitoMatte@reddit
I hope gamers quit it with the AIO thing. Air cooling is easier and sufficient. And why support these business models?
strongdoctor@reddit
Liquid cooling is good to have as an option as it's just more efficient, meaning you either get better cooling or can run it quieter. Usually air will do just fine though, you aren't wrong.
inyue@reddit
Liquid quieter? 🤔
FlorrenEsseb-13579@reddit
Consumes too much space and doesn't keep things cool enough on the high-end side of things.
heymikeyp@reddit
At least they didn't say air cooling was superior in performance which a lot of clowns on reddit still spew. The price argument can't even be used when any 240 AIO, even a 40$ thermalright will beat Noctua's best at 150$.
Valid arguments would be reliability and maybe noise but that depends on the cooler so really air coolings only advantage is reliability. My 6 year old Corsair AIO was still working perfectly before I sold that PC, and my over 2 year old DeepCool is working fine. I do plan to switch over to air cooling next build though.
LickMyKnee@reddit
“At the core of Ingrid is a newly engineered pump and impeller assembly, molded using a patent pending new technology.”
Whoop there it is!
PanchitoMatte@reddit
They literally waited until after they had milked their last patent dry to release the successor. Not a good look.
surf_greatriver_v4@reddit
Was that really the best name they could come up with
kikimaru024@reddit (OP)
They're a Danish company, and did similar with their last release (Gen 8v2 - Emma).
It's just a code name.
bubblesort33@reddit
No coil whine? So AIOs coil whine?
chefchef97@reddit
Can't rest on your laurels now eh
gahlo@reddit
"Aw fuck, we have to do something now."
jonathanwashere1@reddit
Yawn… don’t support a company that has maliciously stifled innovation