[Monitor Unboxed] MSI's New $600 1440p 280Hz OLED, 500Hz and Cheap Mini-LEDs Coming Shortly

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GinBang@reddit

Are dimming algorithms holding back mini-LED? Can you pay to use another manufacturer's algorithm?

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Yes and IDK. The problem is that for gaming monitors, you are much more limited as far as the complexity of algorithms you can use, because you have to use an algorithm that can resolve within the frame time (which gets even harder as frame rates go higher and frame time is lower).

Sony has the best dimming algorithm for their high-end Bravia TVs, but even that gets much worse when you put the TV in Gaming Mode.

Faster CPUs in the monitor SOC can help, but that increases cost.

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Essteethree@reddit

If you think about it, it kind of makes sense. Local dimming is so much better than it was not - especially in the Bravia 9 or other super top-of-the-line TV, but that's intended for movies - aka 24fps film material.

With monitor manufacturers clearly seeing PC monitors as a niche market, I don't see them investing the time and money to improve high FPS local dimming. I would imagine we see QDEL or even Micro LED monitors before a high rez, high refresh LCD monitor with perfect local dimming.

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titanking4@reddit

Having worked with many monitors in my days doing free-sync certification.

I gotta say that “local dimming” was probably my least favourite feature of all time.

Some panels literally come with 2 zones, others come with 4 zones as vertical bars, and you’re lucky with 16 zones. The blooming around your cursor and other bright objects in a movie science is obnoxious to look at, one half or corner of my monitor just has a darker black than the other half. I’ve never seen it done correctly (or maybe when it is done I just don’t notice it).

I questioned why we even required the feature or even entertained it when it just lets manufacturers to cheat brightness and contrast tests.

Global dimming makes sense, if your whole scene is dark, dim the backlight. (LCD phones used to do this to save power before oled made that tech obsolete).

Local dimming can only get good when you vastly increase the number of zones and in the limit you get OLED which is “per pixel local dimming”. Even those Gsync ultimate displays with 384 zones still had the “halo around your mouse or bright moving object” issue.

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ListenBeforeSpeaking@reddit

Is there a resource you like that one can read up on these?

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DM_Me_Good_Things@reddit

How much better does a mini LED IPS look compared to a regular IPS?

How about compared to an OLED?

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Njale@reddit

If it has enough dimming zones it's night and day difference between mini and regular ips, you can have really similar results in dark parts of the image compared to oled and much higher brightness. Also the algorithm they use to control those zones plays a part too.

Oled is the best of course but for desktop usage the danger of burn in is too high for my taste.

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Schmigolo@reddit

Yeah but if there aren't enough dimming zones it's literally worse unfortunately.

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SireEvalish@reddit

If it’s IPS then the difference isn’t that big. On VA it can make a huge difference, though, IMO. I think when some of the newer IPS black or whatever it’s called panels come out we may see some improvements.

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subzerostig@reddit

The new IPS black panels with 2000:1 or even 3000:1 contrast have started coming out. Dell and LG have both released models. They have absolutely terrible response times and blurring so far, which implies it might be a limitation of the technology.

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SireEvalish@reddit

Oof level: large. Was hoping for something better.

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OwlProper1145@reddit

Should look great if it has a good dimming algorithm.

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ritz_are_the_shitz@reddit

Imo they are actually worse than both, until you have multiple thousands of mini LED dimming zones. And these cheap versions won't. But if you only have a couple hundred, beneath highlights you'll get this square of backlight that's visible. I would rather just have a uniform backlight and something that is distracting like that.

OLED is just miles better. And TV OLED is still like 5 years ahead of monitors for some reason

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EndlessZone123@reddit

mini LED or anything with dimming zones feels like a TV only technology for movies that doesnt make as much sense on desktop monitors with text and UI.

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Skulkaa@reddit

You know that you can disable local dimming , right ?

That's what I do on my AOC q27g3xmn , local dimming is only enabled in HDR mode. On sdr content it's a not all backlit VA

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Cheap-Plane2796@reddit

I scoffed at the 600hz tn panel.

At that refresh itll take up to 10 frames for the pixels to change to the correct color lmao.

Meaningless and useless

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