ComputerBase: Radeon RX 9060 XT with 16 GB for 349 USD slightly behind the RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB
Posted by NGGKroze@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 97 comments
In a direct comparison of the 16 GB variants, the Radeon RX 9060 XT is said to not quite match the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti in terms of frame rate, but the AMD card is said to be only a " few percent " behind.
Annsly@reddit
Makes sense, the choice to put the 9060 XT 16GB against the 5060 Ti 8GB in their tests wasn't only for price parity reasons.
They know that at 1440p ultra settings 8GB is going to spill into system memory in some games.
We can already see this in 5060 Ti 16GB vs 5060 Ti 8GB benchmarks that show around a 15% advantage to the 16GB version.
Few_Tomatillo8585@reddit
so 9060xt will be around 10% slower than 5060 ti 16gb / 7700xt. .
but problem is it consists of RT at 1440p ultra, which shows massive 30-50% higher performance than 8gb 5060 ti . the performance might even be lower.
jecowa@reddit
I hope 349$ is the actual retail price and not merely the manufacturer's suggested retail price.
NGGKroze@reddit (OP)
I believe it will be like 9070. On paper the card will look good, but due to demand for 16GB at 350$ the street price will be 400$+. Also no reference cards, so maybe 2-3 models will be base MSRP models if available at all.
Hairy-Fig4442@reddit
I hope the price doesn't go up too much, I'm bargaining on this card and I sure can't afford Nvidia anymore.
embeddedsbc@reddit
The first model from Acer was just announced for €600 (!)
F9-0021@reddit
So DOA then.
embeddedsbc@reddit
Yeah there's no way they can compete at that price. But for €400 for the 16G version I'd say they should be quite competitive.
mockingbird-@reddit
When was this "announced"?
embeddedsbc@reddit
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeon-RX-9060-XT-8GB-Grafikkarte-281276/News/Acer-Nitro-Preis-Leistung-Specs-UVP-Computex-1473128/ In German. Basically 8G version for 600, 16G for 650. I also hope this is just a big misunderstanding!
mockingbird-@reddit
The Radeon RX 9070 is selling for around €650, so I don't know what Acer is thinking.
INITMalcanis@reddit
Maybe they're thinking the prices of the 9070 will go up too
Blacky-Noir@reddit
Is there copious amount of lube in the box? Or is it a dry type of hardcore sodomy?
djseifer@reddit
The dildo of ~~consequences~~ GPU manufacturer pricing rarely arrives lubed.
zerinho6@reddit
lol, lmao even.
Alan_asleep@reddit
what are the chances of it costing around msrp like 6 months after release?(out side of US)
godfrey1@reddit
it's not higher because of demand, it's higher because it's a fake MSRP lol
SignalSatisfaction90@reddit
Like the other guy said, AMD messed with the MSRP soon after launch
shugthedug3@reddit
The 9070 price didn't jump up because of demand but because AMD released it at a fake price.
mockingbird-@reddit
It's the manufacturer's suggested retail price excluding tariffs.
The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 8GB is $420 retail, and the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is $490 retail.
If the Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB is ~$400 retail, it will do well.
Vb_33@reddit
Nah MSRP is before tariffs. It is for Nvidia and AMD. Even the 5060ti can be found for MSRP (rarely) and the 5060 sells for MSRP ($299). If there is a price increase beyond it Nvidia will formally announced it (they've hinted at it for some of their products but no hard details yet).
crkokinda@reddit
Are you joking? Do you know what year it is?
Capable-Silver-7436@reddit
would be nice but the corpo retailers can price whatever they want i hate it
HuntKey2603@reddit
lol. lmao even.
DYMAXIONman@reddit
Needs to stick to $350 or it will be dead on arrival.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
That worked so well for the 9070s!
ConsistencyWelder@reddit
9070's are back to pretty close to MSRP on my local Amazon shops.
Saneless@reddit
The 9070 was a great deal. And it was hilarious, really. People at microcenter didn't want the 9070 because it was such a "bad deal" compared to the xt. But everyone I was around had to get a $750 xt. I walked out with a $550 non xt and was very happy
Dey_EatDaPooPoo@reddit
Especially once you consider the great OC potential the 9070 has, and how little performance it loses at comparable clocks vs the XT despite the loss in compute units.
mockingbird-@reddit
The manufacturer's suggested retail price excludes tariffs.
The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 8GB is $420 retail, and the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is $490 retail.
If the Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB is ~$400 retail, it will do well.
outfunk@reddit
Now makes sense why AMD compared the 8GB TI. LOL.
ConsistencyWelder@reddit
Which is fair, since it's actually cheaper than the 5060 Ti 8GB.
Active-Quarter-4197@reddit
Thats not too bad if it can be found around msrp since the 5060 ti is generally only avaliable for 460+.
hard to expect it to perform the same when it is stuck on gddr6 wheras the 5060 ti has ggdr7 to fix its memory bandwidth issues.
DerpSenpai@reddit
AMD invested in more cache to "stop" the BW issue with GDDR6. The 5060 ti has BW to spare and nothing says that the 9060 XT is bandwidth starved
dororodo30@reddit
Are they? as far as i know they are still using the same 32 MB AMD Infinity Cache Technology which was present in their cards since the the 6000 series in 2021. Only the 9070 and 9070 XT get access to the larger 64MB Infinity Cache.
Dey_EatDaPooPoo@reddit
RDNA 4 is much more bandwidth efficient than RDNA 3. The RX 7900 XT has 800GB/s and 80MB L3 cache yet is slower than the 9070 XT which only has 645GB/s and 64MB L3.
The 9070 and 9070 XT have twice the amount of cache because they need to feed twice the amount of CUs. The 9060 XT only has to feed half the number of CUs with only a slight increase to core frequency vs the 9070 XT so it stands to reason that with half the memory bandwidth it shouldn't be memory bandwidth starved, though it will likely see bigger gains from a memory OC than the 5060 Ti would.
dororodo30@reddit
Are you seriously saying that RDNA4 efficiency will somehow make up for a 16GB VRAM card having access to only a 128 bit bus doing 320 GB/s with 32MB L3 cache?
If that was the case this reddit post wouldn't even exist because the card should not be in any way behind the 5060 TI 16gb otherwise.
Dey_EatDaPooPoo@reddit
Yes, for the most part. That is the logical conclusion anyone could easily draw from seeing that this was the case with its bigger brother which has 95% more computing power and 100% more memory bandwidth yet wasn't memory bandwidth starved. Why would you think that a card with just about half the computing power and half the memory bandwidth would run into this issue when the bigger brother didn't?
Would you please explain how you arrived at this conclusion? And did you factor in that GPU performance and where they scale relative to each other will be different depending on the games and therefore suite of games tested?
dororodo30@reddit
Your GPU Bandwith determines how quickly your GPU access it's VRAM, if you have ever done any work with LLM's you would understand that to properly utilize the 16GB VRAM this cards provide you would need more bandwit. the 9070 XT provides a 640 GB/s with a 64 bit cache while only having to accomodate 16GB VRAM which is more than enough to not run into any bottlenecks or significant slowdowns, the 7900 XT is a 20GB VRAM so it needs the extra bandwith when it's under heavy loads above the 16GB Vram mark.
I can guarantee you that this card has powerful enough chip that its bus holds it back when the VRAM utilization goes close to the max at 1440p which is why AMD compared it to the 5060 ti 8GB under 1440p instead of the 16gb model..
Dey_EatDaPooPoo@reddit
None of what you said is an actual counterpoint, just conjecture. LLM workloads do not behave like gaming workloads. Half the compute performance, half the bandwidth makes perfect sense. And even if it ends up with a 5% deficit in scaling compared to its bigger brother that's mostly irrelevant anyway, so who cares?
dororodo30@reddit
Every time you need to load data from the GPU Memory instead of the 32MB cache the cards use GPU bandwith and this card will 100% be bottleneck by it's speed when benchmarks are out .
I'll say it once again if this card does not beat the 5060 TI 16GB it will because of the bandwith rather than the chip.
dororodo30@reddit
Man arguing with someone that a 128 bus in 2025 is enough for a 16 VRAM card if the card does not perform like dogshit after 1 hour of gaming in 1440p while using close to the max vram usage in 2 weeks i'll come here and say you were right RemindMe! -14 day
dororodo30@reddit
RemindMe! 14 day
dororodo30@reddit
RemindMe! -14 day
dororodo30@reddit
The 7900 XT is faster than the 9070 XT.
mockingbird-@reddit
The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 8GB is $420 retail, and the GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is $490 retail.
If the Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB is ~$400 retail, it will do well.
Healthy_BrAd6254@reddit
5060 Ti 16GB is 425 USD before taxes here
The 9060 XT for 350 is still better value for gaming.
NGGKroze@reddit (OP)
Also:
only_r3ad_the_titl3@reddit
How is one getting screwed over by lower tdp lmao?
grujicd@reddit
You're quite insentive. Gamers in Alaska, Siberia and north Scandinavia really suffer from lower TDP!
DYMAXIONman@reddit
It's also lower because less power needed for the memory.
SolarianStrike@reddit
Also lets be real, the performance different between the 304W and 330\~340W OC 9070XT are minimal.
LuminanceGayming@reddit
wonder if canada and australia count as western europe
supercakefish@reddit
Australia is in Eurovision. One of us, one of us!
dbcanuck@reddit
Almost certainly. Canada is also fortunate enough to be getting lots of electronic shipments right now thanks to the tariff situation.
b3081a@reddit
Asian markets primarily use these 60-tier cards for competitive e-sports so that makes sense.
SolarianStrike@reddit
Correct, all those 4060 and 3060 8GB on Steam Hardware Survey? Vast majority are in Internet Cafes.
hsien88@reddit
Stop repeating the lies about Internet cafes. The steam hardware survey bug was fixed long time ago.
SolarianStrike@reddit
No, it happened not that long ago. Fact is it is not really a bug just depends on where the random survey has been sent at the time. Fact is the OEM dawrfs the DIY one, and those cards in the Internet Cafe were real.
The months where there are more Chinese Simplified user, there is a sudden surge of lower end nVidia cards.
hsien88@reddit
again please stop spreading misinformation. The Chinese user bumps happen 2 -3 times a year and has nothing to do with the upgrade cycles.
Keulapaska@reddit
Laptops in general are very popular around the world, as seen by high Chinese months in the Steam survey having laptops drop in the relative to desktops and a more normal language split month they're up there being on par or even ahead of desktops.
Chronia82@reddit
While correct in the sense that the Apac region seems to have a lot more presence of 60 series cards, do note that the Steam Survey does not measure market share, as market share is a metric that looks at items (in this case GPU's) sold in a certain period (generally the last quarter when for example Jon Peddie publishes market share numbers) in the global or regional markets, what Steam measures is install base (or installed base), a different metric that measures what hardware is in use amongst a certain population, in this case Steam users.
SolarianStrike@reddit
I agree, especially in the context of used GPUs. As I said in my other comment, the retired GPUs don't just go in landfills, they get sold for cheap and ends up being used by other budget gamers. So yes the Steam Survey will be in favor of the GPUs installed vs quarterly shippment.
ShadowRomeo@reddit
The market overall in general are focused on E sports or Online Multiplayer Games, why do you think Fortnite dominates the concurrent played games all over the world? I highly doubt that it's not only exclusive to the Asian market.
Considering the whole Asian market as only playing E sport games exclusively is totally ignoring the likes of us who exclusively play singleplayer demanding games and requires the more powerful higher vram variant GPUs. And guess where we are found?
On Asia, Southeast Asia specifically. I personally think it's a dumb ass idea overall to withhold a highly desirable product on a specific market specifically based from this assumption TBH.
Why couldn't they just say that AMD can't supply enough of them that they are rationing their products? Well, because they don't want to offend the shareholders and they want to save their face from admitting about how fake the MSRP of their RDNA 4 GPU lineup.
But hey there is saying that AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunityu, and this move seems to be just one more of them TBH.
AMD Radeon will never ever gain marketshare and penetrate Nvidia's foothold if they kept doing this dumb ass marketing strategy.
bluepx@reddit
The gpu chips are the same regardless if they are hooked up to 8GB or 16GB memory. Any supply limits would come from the gddr side not the gpu side. And I don't know why you assume AMD is involved in these decisions, the OEM are probably maximising profit.
tukatu0@reddit
Yeah. People play esports because they are f"""ing poor. Half are children without money. Not because they don't want to play video games. Why are they the highest grossing? Because asking $10 from parents is way easier than "i want animals snoring ultra deluxe" timmy is an id"""t who doesnt realize asking for $5 would get them way more games.
DYMAXIONman@reddit
Those markets are more price sensitive, so it does make sense though.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
I tend to read that as 'client versus prebuilt rig' tbh.
And they're not gonna admit up front 'we soft-cancelled the 8 gig model'.
mostcool@reddit
and they will cost double the MSRP
DerpSenpai@reddit
those markets will still have the 16GB version, the 8GB one is just a priority for Asia because every $ matters.
ShadowRomeo@reddit
Oh, I see the highly undesirable 8GB GPUs will be sold on less loud but majority of average gamer joe that will only play mostly E Sports games, whereas the 16GB variant will be sold on market that tends to be the loudest on forums and Reddit, Youtube Tech community but only is minority.
NGGKroze@reddit (OP)
AMD is doing what Nvidia is, but more silently and with less coverage. To 5060Ti credit, both variants come with the same TDP, the difference is VRAM.
If 16GB card is barely 6% faster (mostly thanks to VRAM), then I can see the 8GB card on top of hitting VRAM limits also has 5-10% less performance than the 16GB due to TDP.
Jabaited indeed.
salcedoge@reddit
AMD cards are literally more expensive where I live so just fuck it I guess lol
Emergency_Sound_5718@reddit
I just found out that the cheapest 5060 is about $20 less (converted) than the cheapest 5060ti 8Gb.
The 9060XT Being $350 means that it's probably going to be more expensive and out of reach for many people on a budget.
swsko@reddit
Yea give the poor a shitty product at higher MSRP that’s how it works a lot of times
GrapeAdvocate3131@reddit
The MSRP doesn't always reflect the actual prices in the third world
swsko@reddit
That’s what I’m saying it’s always higher
imKaku@reddit
Also from the same company that called 9070 xt msrp 600. So I would that that with a grain of salt. 4060 ti 16 gb are available for msrp where I live, so 9060 xt actually gotta be msrp. They got no vigle room.
pugandcorgi@reddit
9070 XT out of stock as soon as it restock in my region (SEA) because it's the same price with 5070 and 5070 TI is 30% more expensive.
Silly-Cook-3@reddit
Ain't no way this card is going to remain at 350$ after first day/week.
mockingbird-@reddit
The manufacturer's suggested retail price excludes tariffs.
Vb_33@reddit
It doesn't. People keep saying this but it's not true. Nvidia cards like the 5060ti can be (rarely) found at MSRP and the 5060 is at MSRP, 5060 sells at MSRP of $299 just as Nvidia originally announced. When there is a change to the non marked up price at the store (MSRP) we'll know.
jecowa@reddit
10% markup would be 385$, and 20% markup would be 420$.
IANVS@reddit
HUB in shambles...incoming years of comparison videos until one day the RX 9060XT possibly edges out the 5060Ti for 1% and Steve proclaims the victory for AMD Fine Wine (tm) technology and that justice has been restored to the world.
Also, don't fool yourselves it will cost that much for more than one or two batches.
awr90@reddit
The 9070xt initial claims were way off, it was never supposed to compare to the 5070ti and after launch drivers it was beating it. 9060xt will probably end up being better than what is claimed here.
Relative-Message-706@reddit
See - if this card hits the market and is consistently available at MSRP, it'll be an amazing value. Unfortunately - I can already forsee it selling for above MSRP. If I had to guess, you'll see the 8GB models available at or near MSRP, but the 16GB models will easily be in the $400+ range.
giantmountain7343@reddit
27 years of experience : AMD is bad - NVIDIA is bad. And just you know you are living in a bad world my friend.
Sukuna_DeathWasShit@reddit
Tears in my eyes. Base 9060 might be below 300
SEI_JAKU@reddit
This is AMD's admission. It probably matches or beats the 5060 Ti in various things. And if the 9070 XT is any indication, it's going to be considerably cheaper!
Igor369@reddit
The only reason to buy nvidia is for CUDA support.
Homerlncognito@reddit
Really depends on local pricing. In Europe, when comparing premium % over US MSRP, AMD typically has worse pricing.
Cuarenta-Dos@reddit
In the UK the 5070 Ti is in the same ballpark as the 9070 XT and the 5070 is quite a bit cheaper than the 9070, so it's quite difficult to justify buying AMD
mockingbird-@reddit
If they are in the same ballpark, you might as well get AMD to save yourself the headache with drivers.
mockingbird-@reddit
Why not compare absolute prices?
bubblesort33@reddit
AMD on their site claims the 16gb model is 160w tdp for the 16gb model. But in their slides they compare it at 180w. Likely an oc AIB model. The 8gb model is supposed to start at 150w. But it does seem like most of the 16gb models will be clocked higher, because they more frequently have a tdp range beyond base.
abbzug@reddit
I don't see how this could be another 9070 situation. 5060ti 16gb and the 5070 are available at msrp or even below it so there's too much competition. I'm sure it'll rise a bit but past 400 kind of kills the value proposition.
No_Guarantee7841@reddit
From the way you phrased it, this seems like a ComputerBase benchmark results conclusion but if you read the article it is just quoting official amd numbers.