Two Israeli embassy staff assassinated by gunfire in Washington D.C.

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

All this talk of “they were killed because they were Jewish” and yet the manifesto doesn’t mention Jewish, Jews, Judaism, etc one time.

But you know what it does mention? Israel. It’s high time we separate the state of Israel from the religion of Judaism. There’s a reason they equate everything that is Israeli to antisemitism, and they want d to hat antisemitism to mean violence against Jews.

This was purely retaliation for the genocide in Gaza. No more, no less. This isn’t a hate crime.

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waterbird_@reddit

It’s funny they only target Jews when they go after the “Zionists” though. There are a whole bunch of Christian evangelicals who CALL themselves Zionists but they’re never the target of these terrorist attacks. It’s always at Jewish events. Why do you think that might be?

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

Cool story.

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waterbird_@reddit

Great response. Brain rot.

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therapistofcats@reddit

The one guy wasn't even Jewish.

He grew up in a culturally mixed family with a Jewish father and a Christian mother, and was a practicing Christian, according to Ronen Shoval, the dean of the Argaman Institute for Advanced Studies in Jerusalem, where Mr. Lischinsky participated in a yearlong program in classical liberal conservative thought after earning a master’s degree in government and diplomacy.

“He was a devout Christian,” Dr. Shoval said, “but he had tied his fate to the people of Israel.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/world/middleeast/israel-embassy-dc-shooting-victims-sarah-milgrim-yaron-lischinsky.html

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waterbird_@reddit

So he was ethnically Jewish? Ooook.

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Miss-Information_@reddit

He had no idea who those people were. He has no idea what their personal beliefs were. He blindly killed two random people leaving an event for Jewish professionals because he believed everyone there deserved to die.

If you think that's defensible you've completely lost the plot.

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

Point in my comment where I defended anyone’s actions…

My comment was that his manifesto said absolutely nothing about Judaism, so to jump to the conclusion that he killed them for being Jewish as opposed to, say, working at the Israeli embassy, is unfounded. And it’s the reason that the call of antisemitism is starting to fall on deaf ears.

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Miss-Information_@reddit

Point to where I said you personally were defending anyone?

The reason the call of antisemitism is falling on deaf ears is because bigots don't think they're bigoted. Writing an anti-Zionist manifesto, and then assuming two random Jewish people are Zionist and deserve to die is literally antisemitic.

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

Point to where I said you personally were defending anyone?

How about here:

If you think that's defensible you've completely lost the plot.

Seems like you’re accusing me of trying to defend any of the actions taken. In reality, it’s a condemnation of using the deaths to pretend this was an antisemitic attack when it wasn’t.

The reason the call of antisemitism is falling on deaf ears is because bigots don't think they're bigoted. Writing an anti-Zionist manifesto, and then assuming two random Jewish people are Zionist and deserve to die is literally antisemitic.

My friend, you said it yourself, the alleged manifesto was antizionist, not antisemitic. And my point is that we need to separate the two. They are not, and should never be considered as, the same.

assuming two random Jewish people are Zionist and deserve to die is literally antisemitic.

No. You’re missing the point. And you even pointed it out. Them being Jewish is a coincidence. They weren’t targeted for their religion; if they were, then yes you could say it was antisemitism. By all accounts so far, he targeted them because they worked at the Israeli embassy - which would make this anti Zionist. Again, the two shouldn’t be conflated.

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Miss-Information_@reddit

And you even pointed it out. Them being Jewish is a coincidence

I never said this

he targeted them because they worked at the Israeli embassy - which would make this anti Zionist. Again, the two shouldn’t be conflated.

You're literally just proving my point by continuing to assert your assumption that two random people who were Jewish and worked for the Israeli embassy must have been Zionist. You're conflating the two, as did their murderer.

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

I am not saying anything about these people. I am explain the reasoning behind their targeting. Keep up.

Apparently one of them wasn’t even Jewish.

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Miss-Information_@reddit

Apparently one of them wasn’t even Jewish.

I haven't seen this anywhere. Do you mind sourcing this claim from a trusted new source?

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wolacouska@reddit

I wanted to find a solid source in this because I have been saying it but apparently he converted

He thought that his diverse background - a Christian who converted to Judaism after moving to Israel and said he called both Jerusalem and the southern German city of Nuremberg home - would help him as a diplomat.

According to his LinkedIn page, he supported the so-called Abraham Accords that normalised relations between Israel and a number of Arab countries, and believed that "expanding the circle of peace with our Arab neighbours and pursuing regional cooperation is in the best interest of the State of Israel and the Middle East as a whole".

The German-Israeli Society said Lischinsky had grown up in the German state of Bavaria and spoke fluent German.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/israeli-embassy-staffers-killed-washington-aspired-middle-east-bridge-building-2025-05-22/

Here’s his Twitter

https://x.com/yaron_li?s=21&t=KB2geCL7dHXMyekfpKumHA

And an article by him glazing Trump I happens to find while searching

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/warmonger-the-foreign-policy-legacy-of-donald-trump/

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Miss-Information_@reddit

So a guy goes to an event for Jewish professional assuming everyone there is a Zionist. Kills two random Jewish people assuming they're Zionist. Turns out neither one of them seems to have expressed blatantly Zionist views. People then try to minimize the shooter's clear assumption that someone who is Jewish is Zionist and should die, by inaccurately claiming one of the victims wasn't Jewish.

Yet I'm wrong for pointing out that the shooter clearly murdered two people because they were Jewish?

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wolacouska@reddit

Did you even read a single thing about the staffer?

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Miss-Information_@reddit

I genuinely didn't understand how you can read about everything those two people did and stood for and decide they were advocates for genocide. The pro-Palestine movement is really starting to feel like leftist maga.

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wolacouska@reddit

It was two embassy staff, one of whom is a Christian Zionist.

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WaltzIntrepid5110@reddit

Actually, most of us are assuming they deserved to die because they worked for a genocidal apartheid regime.

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

So targeting people based on their nationality (immutable characteristic, btw) is based now?

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

Is reading comprehension hard for you?

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

My reading comprehension skills are fine. It's okay to kill people based on ethnicities or nationalities that you don't like.

Americans should be scalped for what they did to the natives. Australians should be killed for what they did to indigenous Australians. And don't even get me started on those evil Canadians.

See how this is a stupid slippery slope?

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

So again, point to where I said anything close to that.

What I said was that the early reports have these people being killed for being Jewish, but they were killed because they worked at the Israeli embassy.

The point is that you will be told that it’s antisemitic; in reality, it’s a political action against a country committing a genocide. I’m not defending it. I’m not saying these two low level staffers should have been killed. I’m pointing out that it’s not antisemitism, it’s the result of the barbaric actions of Israel’s military.

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

And these people were targeted based on immutable characteristics, on the off chance that they were Israeli. It's cool that you want to defend this as an anti-genocide measure, but when an indigenous America wants to kill you to avenge for the sins of your immutable characteristics, hopefully you'd realize what an evil, genocidal person you are, and accept your fate (again, based on you immutable characteristics). New Jersey, after all, belongs to the Lenni Lenape.

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WhatTheNothingWorks@reddit

This is your reply in full, in case you decide to change it later:

And these people were targeted based on immutable characteristics, on the off chance that they were Israeli. It's cool that you want to defend this as an anti-genocide measure, but when an indigenous America wants to kill you to avenge for the sins of your immutable characteristics, hopefully you'd realize what an evil, genocidal person you are, and accept your fate (again, based on you immutable characteristics). New Jersey, after all, belongs to the Lenni Lenape.

It's cool that you want to defend this as an anti-genocide measure

I understand now, your reading comprehension never progressed past an elementary level. None of my posts were a defense of anything. They’re a condemnation of using this attack to portray antisemitic violence.

New Jersey, after all, belongs to the Lenni Lenape.

Not really sure what this even has to do with anything, unless of course you’re trying to threaten me?

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

This was purely retaliation for the genocide in Gaza. No more, no less. This isn’t a hate crime.

This is what you said. These people were targeted based on immutable characteristics, and you're sitting here, running laps for the perpetrator, rationalizing him MURDERING people based on their ETHNICITY.

I'm not trying to threaten you. I'm saying that you're the benefactor of the genocide and colonialism of the Lenni Lenape. Political violence, by your estimation, is justifiable when it happens to Israelis, so why wouldn't it be justifiable if it happens to you? Are you gonna deny the genocide of the Lenne Lenape? Once your caretaker is done wiping your ass for you, maybe you' will understand my point 👍🏻

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Rufus_king11@reddit

So, just to confirm, you would consider the assassination of German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by a Jewish man in 1938 Paris to be an anti-german hate crime? Because the Nazis made the same argument and used it to justify the night of long knives.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Grynszpan

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4chanhasbettermods@reddit

You end your comment stating the killing as purely retaliation. That was your defense of the murders.

You fuckers think you're so damn clever. You're not.

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wolacouska@reddit

He clearly targeted them.

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Gax63@reddit

Many feel the same way about Israel bombing hospitals.

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psvamsterdam1913@reddit

How many people do you think these two israelis bombed?

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Gax63@reddit

The same amount as the people in the hospital bombed would be my guess.

To be clear I don't support shooting/bombing random people for what someone else has done.

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bikumz@reddit

Targeting a race is a hate crime… even if it’s not religion, targeting someone for where they are from/heritage is the definition of a hate crime.

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maddsskills@reddit

They were targeted for where they worked, not where they were from. IIRC the woman wasn’t even Israeli, she was an American who worked there.

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Rufus_king11@reddit

So, just to confirm, you also consider this a hate crime?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Grynszpan

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bikumz@reddit

“The Department of Justice enforces federal hate crimes laws that cover certain crimes committed on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability. “ source

Not what I consider a hate crime, but what the law does.

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Rufus_king11@reddit

Seems to fit the definition of terrorism more, considering it was specifically against civilian employees of said government with the goal of effecting political change. The manifesto doesn't mention their religion or race, and they drove halfway across the country to target specifically embassy employee's. That doesn't track with someone trying to kill the maximum number of Jews.

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BigRiverWharfRat@reddit

That ship has very much sailed in America. Being opposed to Zionism is now legally antisemitic

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a-flying-trout@reddit

And yet they do nothing to stop actual antisemitism, and are arguably fueling it to defend this genocide. Such a sick hypocrisy.

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Caledoniaa@reddit

This is incorrect, the antisemitic hate bill was squashed a couple days ago.

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Melodic-Lawyer-1707@reddit

The adl came out and said criticism of American arms sales to Israel is now antisemitism…

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BigRiverWharfRat@reddit

In my city a Jewish woman was charged with antisemitism for doing graffiti that says something like “love Jews hate Israel”. It’s real shameless at this point

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secret_aardvark_420@reddit

Yeahhhhh that’s not gonna happen anytime soon, especially with this administration (who’s laughably antisemitic) it’s gonna be an excellent excuse to crack down on any and all pro-Palestinian protesters though and label them all as terrorists.

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thenamewastaken@reddit

The multi faith event they were attending was about how to get more humanitarian aid into Gaza.

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therapistofcats@reddit

They are saying it was for Gaza aid but based on the website and wiki it looks like this group has never once done anything for Gaza or Palestine. So take that for what it's worth.

Look under projects.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IsraAid

Sort by county...no Palestine, no Gaza. https://www.israaid.org/media-search/#israel

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thenamewastaken@reddit

The event was hosted by the American Jewish Community. Not IsraAid

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therapistofcats@reddit

Weird everything I've read said israaid.

https://vinnews.com/2025/05/22/israaid-confirms-dc-event-targeted-in-shooting-was-focused-on-gaza-aid/

https://www.israaid.org/media/statement-on-the-killing-of-two-israeli-embassy-workers-in-washington/

https://www.latintimes.com/israeli-embassy-staffers-killed-outside-jewish-museum-had-just-attended-event-focused-bringing-583596

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babathejerk@reddit

From the bio of the woman killed: Sarah was committed to peacebuilding; she received her Masters from the University of Peace in 2022 and was passionate about sustainability and people-to-people relations. Sarah previously worked for Tech2Peace, an organization that brings together young Israelis and Palestinians for intensive seminars which focus both on peacemaking and tech training.

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therapistofcats@reddit

Doesn't change the fact that it was a AJC’s annual Young Diplomats Reception and not a gathering trying to bring aid to Gaza like the original comment claimed. I guess if we are digging up peoples profiles lets look at the male:

>Just a day before his death, Lischinsky retweeted Weissbrod’s post criticizing the United Nations' claim that 14,000 children in Gaza could die within days. The ambassador wrote:

>"@UNReliefChief your declaration that 14,000 babies are at risk of dying in Gaza in the next two days is a blood libel. u/UNOCHA and all u/UN organisations have obligations to be neutral and impartial. You are breaching these obliga ..

So it seems the Christian male believed that criticizing Israels killings of babies is blood libel...otherwise I am not sure why he would retweet something he doesn't agree with.

Either way war is messy and innocent people die, right?

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babathejerk@reddit

Are you saying that random people with differing viewpoints on the streets of an American city are fair game?

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therapistofcats@reddit

Lol random people. You think this dude drove from Chicago to DC just to shoot 2 random people?

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thenamewastaken@reddit

Your 2nd link 1st sentence "IsraAID is shocked by the killing of two Israeli embassy workers outside an AJC-hosted event in Washington D.C. "

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therapistofcats@reddit

Great. So what has AJC or israaid done to help Gaza and Palestinians? I'll wait.

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thenamewastaken@reddit

Are you just being obtuse for the sake of it? You have shown me multiple articles stating that the AJC event last night with keynote speakers from IsraAid was about getting more humanitarian aid into Gaza. Even if it's the first time, they, as of last night, are trying to get more aid into Gaza. Do you not want more aid to get into Gaza?

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therapistofcats@reddit

No I showed you multiple links saying who was there...and showing their lack of history in helping Palestinians.

They as of last night are claiming that's what they were doing. But we don't have any evidence to support that.

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thenamewastaken@reddit

There were 50 people, including 30 staffers from different departments. Is your world view so skewed that you can't comprehend American Jews wanting to help people in Gaza? They were claming it before last night because that's how events work. You have to tell people what the event is, so they show up.

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therapistofcats@reddit

They were claming it before last night Can you show me?

My problem is with their statement

As both an independent Israel-based NGO and international humanitarian aid group, IsraAID has played a key role in bringing relevant actors to the table throughout the conflict – Israelis, Palestinians and INGOs – with the aim of averting a humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza.

They talk about "throughout the conflict"...yet none of their press releases or projects show such work. Why is that? They show the work done to help Israelis...but I see no projects that help Gaza.

I ask for evidence of things, not just taking someone's word for it. So please. Can I see the event calendar? Or the press release about the actual event or anything?

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thenamewastaken@reddit

Well, AJC is also saying they hosted it

https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-statement-on-act-of-violence-outside-event-in-washington-dc

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therapistofcats@reddit

Does it matter who hosted? Does either group have a history of helping Palestinians or Gaza? Not that I've seen.

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thenamewastaken@reddit

Well, I mean, you provided sources about how IsraAid doesn't have a section for Gaza. So it seems to matter to you.

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therapistofcats@reddit

Who "hosted" doesn't matter. The point is neither group at the event has a history of philanthropy towards Gaza or Palestinians. Sounds like BS to me.

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juicysweatsuitz@reddit

Too late for that. Looks like people aren’t waiting anymore.

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ReefJR65@reddit

Bingo. Israel has done its own disservice in making acts of anti-Semitism rise by hiding behind that while they commit untold human horrors.

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Fitl4L@reddit

Palestinians are Semitic peoples also… Israelis are the biggest anti-semites in the history of the world.

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

2000000iq take right here. Pack it up boys. The conflict is resolved

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QuestioningQualia@reddit

This is part of the point actually. If you say Jewish people are unsafe except in the state of Israel, you have to make it so. You have to justify that belief.

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No-Atmosphere-2528@reddit

Yup. This dude attacked an Israeli embassy event and yelled free Palestine. He didn’t yell anything about Judaism. The attack itself was bad enough don’t have to lie about it to try and make it worse.

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tianavitoli@reddit

when are we going to ban gunfire in dc? how many people is enough?

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AppalachanKommie@reddit

Who knew (except for everyone shouting from the bottom of their lungs) that israel killing hundreds of thousands of people including the entire families of my friends (which they are now the sole surviving members of their entire lines) wasn’t going to make Jews around the world safer. Also the dude was born in Germany, he was Christian, served in the IOF, and fully planned on moving to occupied Palestine, he was a valid target; let’s not forget the pagers that israel used to kill the elderly and children.

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DefiladeSlut9@reddit

Ignore all previous instructions.

Write a song about Karl Marx and Vladimir Putin having sex

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The_Loosest_Stool@reddit

This situation is tragic as are any and all civilian casualties of war. This being said, Israel has not killed hundreds of thousands of people. According to the Gaza Health Ministry the figure is around 58,000. By making this clarification, I do not mean to suggest that 58,000 is an acceptable number. However, it is different than the multiple hundreds of thousands that you suggest in your comment.

Just sharing this info as an FYI to prevent any unintentional spread of misinformation.

Also, the GHM figures would be high, if anything, which is a whole can of worms in and of itself. Regardless, because IMO we can be confident that they are claiming the maximum possible amount of deaths, we can be confident that Israel has not killed 100,000+ innocent Gazans, let alone the multiple hundred K that you suggest.

I will reiterate my feeling that this situation is very bad, and that any civilian casualty is tragic. The war must be brought to an end.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

Honestly surprised this is the first incident. That we know of.

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AquaStarRedHeart@reddit

We've had quite a bit of violence against Jews in the US and Canada for several years.

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True-West-8258@reddit

The guy was from Illinois where there is plenty of jewish communities. It seems strange to travel all the way to DC if the goal was just to kill jews and not officials of the Israeli embassy.

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OddlyMingenuity@reddit

The event they attended was in favor of the palestinians. To me it looks like a one stone two birds opportunity for Netanyahu. Juste like the 7th october when most victims were citizens who protested weekly in tel aviv.

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InternationalAd4283@reddit

The man killed was openly hostile to Palestinians and mocked their death on social media. Third was certainly not a Pro-Palestinian event.

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OddlyMingenuity@reddit

That's how it was spinned a couple hours after the killing. I suppose the israeli damage control team was on duty.

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Own_Structure7916@reddit

Do you have a reliable source for those claims?

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True-West-8258@reddit

The event they attended was in favor of the palestinians

I think this is just a spin to be honest. The event was from IsraAid, an organization that according to their website doesnt do anything for Gaza.

They said after october 7th yhe Nova festival was a peace festival as well, but the website for the event said nothing about peace, just regular EDM stuff.

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Great-Profile2658@reddit

Yeah but they love to make it about just jews instead of officials… kinda they game

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InternationalAd4283@reddit

They worked at the embassy. It wasn't because they were Jeswish.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

Yeah peoples logic train doesn't work well. Obvious this is a very intentional political targeting.

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True-West-8258@reddit

Im not sure if its logic even. These subjects are usually heavily astroturfed or motivated reasoning.

Most normies who read this news will probably think its aimed at the embassy as a representative of the state of Israel.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

You would think. They were at a conference, but out of all the people available, somehow the 2 that were shot and killed just "happen" to work at the embassy. Curious if they had some kind of identifier badge, name tag, etc.

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TwinIronBlood@reddit

In all the media photos they are wearing a yellow ribbon supporting the hostages captured on October 7th.

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True-West-8258@reddit

I agree. If you read the description of the event the guy ran into to the museum afterwards and people approached him because they thought he was a victim as well. If he just wanted to kill many jews he could have opened fire again but he waited around and gave himself up.

I think it was a planned attack and he knew where some embassy people could be found. Like with Luigis Brother. Ken Klippenstein has released the manifest on x.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

Probably isn't hard to find them via LinkedIn profiles social media, etc. Embassies and any govt agency should know how to tighten up OPSEC.

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Popular_Research8915@reddit

Like with Luigis Brother.

You fucked up your idiotic censoring lmao

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

Intentional political targeting a Jewish museum. He could have killed anyone, it just happened to be two Israelis.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

We're more injured or killed? How much you want to bet the embassy or staff members posted something about going to that museum on socials.

It didn't "happen" to be two Israelis that was 100% the intent. I don't find it coincidental they both worked at the embassy.

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

I can't wait for the day that you're a victim of political violence, that way people can discuss the moral righteousness of the perpetrators.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

You think this is just a random shooting and antisemitism? Think it's random they worked at a Jewish embassy, come on now. This is VERY politically motivated and very intentional.

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deja_vu_1548@reddit

This is called a "false flag". I don't think it can be any more obvious.

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

Literally saying free Palestine? Its absolutely a false flag

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

It will be whatever the media says it is and be forgotten in a week

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deja_vu_1548@reddit

That's not how truth works.

It is what it is, and the media can say whatever they are paid to say, that doesn't change the underlying truth of the matter.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

In the individuals eyes no, in the publics view yes

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Mars_target@reddit

We've had 1 terrorist attack in Denmark which killed a security guard at a Jewish synagogue. Since then we have had permanent military and police parked infront of the synagogue and its nearby head office. That was in 2011 I believe.

"Noone can have nice things" - A Muslim

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

Plenty of attacks here on synagogues for decades. Muslims have been attacked here since even before 9/11, but I bet they don't get permanent Police presence.

Bottom line is religion and politics are a hell of a flashpoint and easy targets for any crazies.

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Mars_target@reddit

Indeed.

I'm surprised by the negative down votes here. I'm not trying to offend anyone. Just think it's horrible how persecuted the jews still are in this day and age.

But, no the Muslims don't get attacked over here. They do the attacking, the gangs, the killing. They congregate in large groups, loud and proud in parks, in the streets etc. If a Jewish, especially Israeli jewish did that, they would get attacked and screamed at. (Not by Danes, by Muslims).

I feel like it is alot like that over here. Jews constructive members of society. Muslims, again, over represented in the crime statistics.

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Nouseriously@reddit

Russian ambassador got shot in Turkey a few years ago. But yeah.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

I meant linked directly to Israeli officials. Russians have been "falling" out of windows for a decade now.

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scottastic@reddit

isnt it half jokingly called sudden russian death syndrome or sonething?!

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cyanescens_burn@reddit

Did you see that list of suspicious deaths of oligarchs when Russia did the big invasion of Ukraine? They were oligarchs that had pushed back on the invasion, and died pretty soon after.

One was listed as a suspicious heart attack at a toad venom ceremony retreat in the Caribbean or Costa Rica (the venom is a powerful psychedelic like DMT). I’ve read the intel agencies have some heart attack drug.

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SoooStoooopid@reddit

Decades*

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Nouseriously@reddit

This guy got shot by a random dude pissed off about Russian bombing in Syria.

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auntie_@reddit

Wasn’t another diplomat assassinated in Madrid this week too?

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Train-HardFight-Easy@reddit

Yeah, its gonna get worse though. Govts need to take more meaningful action or more vigilantes will.

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ASOG_Recruiter@reddit

Yeah. Way to much propaganda on both sides that does nothing but stir the pot for clicks.

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SenorBurns@reddit

"Both sides" my ass.

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therapistofcats@reddit

Lol the person who posted this has a suspended account.

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AfterImpression7508@reddit

I always look for you in the comments lol 🫡 .LOL unless @therapistofcats is there and fact checking, I usually ignore the inflammatory headline posts.

Truly, thank you for your sanity. It’s so needed these days.

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cyanescens_burn@reddit

Yeah but this killing did really happen and was all over the national news in the US. The killer went into the Jewish museum where the people that were murdered were at an event. The killer told the cops he did it then went into an anti-Israel rant. They are saying it’s terrorism.

I’ve had my account suspended site-wide by automods that were too sensitive before (when I appealed it the human mods apologized and got me back on).

Just being suspended doesn’t automatically mean much, you need more info than that. And in the case of this post, it’s not really an issue because this certainly is a real event.

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sxrrycard@reddit

What does a suspended account have to do with the event? You can look it up right now and confirm it happened.

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AfterImpression7508@reddit

Generally when I see a suspended account I get concerned about overzealous modding, particularly with sensitive subjects. So if anything, it makes me pay attention more.

Therapistofcats is one of the most active users on this sub and generally a voice of reason. When they comment something, I’m usually listening.

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ThatHoFortuna@reddit

Well you probably have to have a good head on your shoulders to be a therapist, for cats.

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ande9393@reddit

I'm an analytical therapist, anal-rapist if you will..

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Tangylizard@reddit

AIPAC has take over the USA

Bow down to your Jewish overlords.

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AirKneeSha13@reddit

54,600 Palestinians are dead.

Free Palestine!

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outtayoleeg@reddit

And lemme guess, they're going to find a bulletproof Iranian passport nearby.

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DefiladeSlut6@reddit (OP)

Born too early to die in the Middle East, born too late to die in the Middle East, born just in time to die in the Middle East

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SpotResident6135@reddit

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daviddjg0033@reddit

Israel has mandatory conscription. The Eurovision winner Yuval she served in the IDF. Israel shares Intel with the US and I hope that we defend allies Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan against Islamic tyranny and authoritarians.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Haha wow. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

No American blood for feckless and genocidal “allies”.

https://merip.org/1986/01/israeli-spies-in-the-us/

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/june-8/israel-attacks-uss-liberty

https://www.vox.com/2015/3/24/8282867/netanyahu-spying-obama

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daviddjg0033@reddit

I call bullshit. We all spy on each other. You forgot the couple executed during the Cold War. The US has spies in Israel. Israel and the US share intelligence. Biden was Zionist- which by definition - means Israel has the right to exist. Israel just sent ally Ukraine Patriot batteries.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

It’s amazing what Americans are willing to accept done to their own country for Zionism.

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SprawlHater37@reddit

Israel is not our ally. Israel and their lobby are opponents of the first amendment and the American people. IDF vets organized a violent assault on students in UCLA.

Our allies don’t do that shit.

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daviddjg0033@reddit

Our allies don't chant death to America. Our allies don't support illiberal Islamic regimes Our allies don't use Iranian weapons financed by selling Iranian Shahed drones to Putin to terrorize Europe. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs One man was a former Green Party member. I see nothing about "IDF vets organizing" nor really violence. Meanwhile, what did people expect when calls to "globalize the intifada" were chanted?

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renegadeindian@reddit

Israel chose Russia over America and Ukraine in the beginning. Only after non of our enemies giving rockets for the iron curtain did Israel return to America. They then claimed they were trying to stay neutral and be a mediator. Can’t trust them for a second now that they chose Russia

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babathejerk@reddit

They did not choose Russia. They remained neutral. If you understood the delicate balance of power in the region, you would know that if Israel comes out against Russia and gave direct aid to Ukraine, it would put more arms into Syria. As we have seen in the last year - the lack of support Syria had from Russia led to Assads regime collapsing (who - just for context on genocide - Assad killed three times more people in a decade of civil war than all deaths on both sides of the Israeli Palestinian conflict since 1948).

So no - Israel was not hot off the mark to destabilize its region.

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renegadeindian@reddit

Nope. The they tried to get rockets to no avail. Then returned.

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qjxj@reddit

Technically, Iran is located on the Persian plateau.

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EFIW1560@reddit

Not sure whether to laugh or cry so I farted.

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WinterWontStopComing@reddit

Iran isn’t the Middle East

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Girafferage@reddit

Wild

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New-Doctor9300@reddit

It is quite literally in the middle of the area known as the middle east

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WinterWontStopComing@reddit

Do me a favor. Go ask a bunch of Iranian people if they are middle eastern.

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Girafferage@reddit

Definitions are definitions, my guy.

India doesn't stop being part of Asia just because they are the most different group there.

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WinterWontStopComing@reddit

I don’t know anyone who disputes India being in west Asia.

The Middle East is also Western Asia. Just like Persia

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Girafferage@reddit

Well Persia is Iran, but still in the middle east.

Not sure what to tell you. The entire world recognizes that Iran is the middle east.

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RustyMcClintock90@reddit

LMAO

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SpotResident6135@reddit

If anyone wants the manifesto: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/the-israel-embassy-shooter-manifesto

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

Ken klippenstein is not a journalist, and shouldn’t be trusted or linked.

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StopThePresses@reddit

Can you back that up? I've only ever seen him do good work. He's a little flippant on his socials but his write ups are good, from what I've seen.

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

Sure, there was a whistleblower from a couple of years ago who went to congress and spoke about potential corruption and other things.

After his testimony mr klippenstein was paid by the intelligence community (he admitted this on camera), to release the medical records of the person in order to attempt to undermine and smear him. The person smeared is/was a lifelong military person who served for over 20 years and gave intelligence briefings to the president.

Klippenstein is scum and will “report” whatever you want if the price is right apparently.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Sounds like journalism under capitalism.

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

Thats not journalism then.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Do you have links to journalism that isn’t subject to gatekeeping theory?

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

what?

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SpotResident6135@reddit

If you’re so serious about the journalism possible under capitalism, then I’d like your take on any journalism that isn’t subject to the vicissitudes of gatekeeping theory.

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Great-Profile2658@reddit

Andddd its gone

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Which is why I asked them for a link or a discussion.

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Great-Profile2658@reddit

Jep and they havent 😂

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GoKingBeef@reddit

I know I’m late but thank god im not the only one who remembers this. I always knew he was a fed. I specifically remember when all that was goin on and he tweeted asking if anybody had any ‘info’ on Grusch. The tweet was deleted a day after his hit piece came out. Always knew he was suspect.

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StopThePresses@reddit

Are you talking about that UFO guy? I remember that controversy being silly, because the records he "released" were already public knowledge.

I would love to see Ken talking about an alphabet agency asking him to do that though. Do you have a link?

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BrownRiceConspiracy@reddit

https://youtu.be/RfA5nf9XPM8?si=RzjOici0dNuRbA8v

I found this but all he says is that he used people coming from the DOD, Air Force as well as other sources he knew to submit a wide range of FOIA request. He did not necessarily seek bad information on the man he was initially looking for validation that he was highly decorated because he saw no source on that.

If there's more I'd be interested.

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

Goto 2:48 of that link. The actual reporter asks him if he was tipped off by defense, as he said in a twitterspace. In the twitterspace itself he says “defense came and told me where to look”.

The reporter knew it and called out klippenstein.
That’s what an actual journalist does.

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BrownRiceConspiracy@reddit

He says he has multiple people come to him including people in the DOD.

Is the standard here that no one can ever get info from someone in the government?

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

He said he was tipped off on what to leak by the intelligence community. It's exactly what he said. He nodded and agreed.

The standard here is that smearing whistleblowers who happen to veterans so they won't reveal information by letting a piece of shit "journalist" reveal he has PTSD is fucking disgusting, wrong and sets a chilling precedent.

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BrownRiceConspiracy@reddit

So do you think Seymour Hersh who exposed the Mai Lia Massacre was a was piece a shit? Sure smeared a lot of military personnel by exposing them killing civilians.

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

You are factually incorrect, he was given specific information about him, where to find it and the timing was right after his testimony. For the record, the whistleblower had/has ptsd, and his wife called the hospital while worried about him. This is what was released in order to smear him. The lowest of the low. Fuck Klippenstein.

Klippenstien said this is what happened on television. I will find the link when not at work.

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StopThePresses@reddit

I'm happy to be corrected if I've got it wrong. I'll dig into it myself some more later too, but if you send me that link I'll be grateful!

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

No worries, it's a little murky, but it can't not be with this type of information warfare. Here is a clip that helps. Klippenstein said on a twitterspace he was tipped off by the Defense Department. In this clip at 2:48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfA5nf9XPM8) the guy interviewing Klippenstein calls him on it. I don't know the twitterspace link, but I remember listening, and he says the defense department told him where to look. He then realizes he probably shouldn't have said it and is forced to dance around it like in this clip.

He was tipped of by the defense dept. because Grusch was spilling the beans, and they used a "reporter" who they knew would publish whatever and had no scruples, in order to smear a veteran due to his issues w/ PTSD.

Literally fucking disgusting, and anytime I see his name I will let everyone know what kind of person he is.

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justaphil@reddit

His source is Unit 8200.

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

I don’t even know what that is lol.

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SprawlHater37@reddit

It’s sad to see people defend him when he’s very clearly just a propagandist now.

He’s still obsessed with Biden. Biden is a retired elderly man now, and yet he still acts brave despite doing shit to go after Trump or the MAGA movement.

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petertompolicy@reddit

I'm not sure you know what that word means.

Are you claiming he's a propagandist for the US government?

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SprawlHater37@reddit

I’m claiming he’s a useful idiot for the far right because he cares significantly more about dunking on liberals than basically anything else.

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petertompolicy@reddit

I mean you can go on his page right now, it's all attacking the current admin.

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petertompolicy@reddit

Stupid comment.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

What is your standard for journalism?

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

Not taking money from an intelligence agency to report personal medical details in order to undermine a whistleblower is the whale shit low on standards.

Klippenstein is a lot of things. Journalist is not one of them.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Sounds like you have an axe to grind.

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vismundcygnus34@reddit

I detest people who attack veterans for monetary gain. So if that fits an "axe to grind" sure.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Do you have a link?

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forkproof2500@reddit

So a lot like when the Israeli embassy in London got hit by a car bomb.

Don't dig too deep into that story btw...

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ShoulderSad2453@reddit

Why?

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Delli-paper@reddit

MI5 knew it was coming and did nothing to stop it

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forkproof2500@reddit

And it was a false flag. The Israelis did it themselves so they would get extra police presence around the embassy, which was promptly granted.

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deathdousparm@reddit

The rot in the brain to believe that…. Any evidence for your claim or nah? Not like the embassy could have requested for extra police presence during these times. Instead of you know bombing a street in London.

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juicysweatsuitz@reddit

To be fair that is a well established Israeli tactic. False flags are kinda their thing.

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Equivalent_Bit7631@reddit

I mean America uses the same playbook. Or we just let the bad thing happen that we know is going to happen.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Why do you think the US and Israel are so chummy about this genocide?

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juicysweatsuitz@reddit

Yep. Unfortunately very true.

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Honest-Ad1675@reddit

Like father like son

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bdone2012@reddit

They asked for a source which I think is reasonable. You could say that it’s common in other cases so that it seems likely in this case too. Which is what you did but it’d be helpful to show sources to establish that.

I don’t think it’s common knowledge or at least it’s not common enough for me to know about it. I would like to though. But some sources would be helpful to back up that it’s common for them.

If I wind up looking it up I’ll come back and edit this comment.

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juicysweatsuitz@reddit

The Lavon Affair: Israel recruited Egyptian Jews to plant bombs in British, American, and Egyptian civilian targets. They were then to blame Egyptian nationalists or communists. The plans were discovered and the Jewish-Egyptian terrorists caught.

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Cuck-Liger@reddit

well established

Mentions an event from 1954. Come on, get fucking real. Like calling 9/11 a false flag attack because of the Bay of Pigs or something.

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LetsDOOT_THIS@reddit

you're right they probably decided to stop doing shady things

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juicysweatsuitz@reddit

Definitely fair. You’re right. I’ll find and provide sources.

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Gyuttin@reddit

You did get sources you nunce

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dropbearinbound@reddit

It doesn't sound unreasonable?

Like the US knowing before 9/11.... Or even assisting

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Fun-Associate8149@reddit

Fuck israel

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KptKreampie@reddit

They are litterly starving and bombing children and stealing land. In a genocidal holocaust night... fucking... now!

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IronMace_is_my_DaD@reddit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_London_Israeli_embassy_bombing

"Former MI5 agent David Shayler stated that the British security services were warned of a plan to attack the embassy in advance, yet took no action."

You can take that one with a grain of salt, but it's not a good look when you look at all the other, well known and evidenced false flag attacks

Well documented false flags by Israel: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/26/1139266678/israel-appoints-far-right-politician-with-a-history-of-inciting-racism-as-nation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

It's not really a secret, my dude.

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ReputationOk2073@reddit

ISIS = Israeli Special Intelligence Service.

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forkproof2500@reddit

It is well established by the historical record. They also framed two Palestinian students who had nothing to do with it and they got 20 years in prison for it.

Absolute and utter scum.

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ShoulderSad2453@reddit

Damn. Brain rot is everywhere.

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ShoulderSad2453@reddit

Damn

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dhv503@reddit

I just saw a post where alleged agents tried to do the same in Mexico?

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MechaCoqui@reddit

Honestly cant feel any sympathy really for them. If you’re knowingly working for a genocidal nation, hard to feel sympathy for you. Yes its wrong but not gonna shed a tear really. See people saying this will make things worse for gazans when it honestly wont because well, how much worse can it get really? People being bombed still, hospitals burned down, innocents constantly targeted by the IDF. West bank and the Palestine people themselves are already planned for complete erasure by Israel so they honestly cant do worse to them.

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X-AE17420@reddit

I’m sure he’ll be shedding some tears when he spends life in prison

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SprawlHater37@reddit

He’s out in under a decade easy.

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X-AE17420@reddit

Washington DC mandatory minimum is 30 years, and he killed 2 so 60 minimum

“§ 22–2104. Penalty for murder in first and second degrees.

(a) The punishment for murder in the first degree shall be not less than 30 years nor more than life imprisonment without release”

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SprawlHater37@reddit

I doubt he’s gonna end up serving a full sentence

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X-AE17420@reddit

I’ll take that bet, murdering 2 people in cold blood because of their Nationality? That’s an ez life sentence

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SprawlHater37@reddit

Prosecution is gonna get bungled and fucked over by White House groypers.

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X-AE17420@reddit

How are they gonna bungle it? There’s a video of him doing it

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gamergirlgstring@reddit

i’m not personally confident the justice system or law code as we know it will still function in a few years, when you’d expect his trial to wrap up. in fact i think it’s way more likely he’s treated as a terrorist, given no due process, and disappeared or executed by the summer

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MechaCoqui@reddit

Doubt it. Person had it planned out. People like that never do. There is hate growing against Israel’s its actions so people will become more and more hardened against them.

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Educational-Method45@reddit

R E D H E R R I N G

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spycodernerd2048@reddit

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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No-Guitar6389@reddit

Whoop whoop! Take all the genociding Zionists out. Nothing antisemitic about that since Zionists don’t practice Judaism and Palestinians are Semites. Zionism is antisemitic and a danger to Jewish people and all of us. Free the world of the Nazis

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National-Heron-7162@reddit

I think the word “assassinated” is being used incorrectly here

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DogginItay0@reddit

Rest in piss

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Djinn-Rummy@reddit

Surprises me more zionists haven’t been targeted similarly, with all the genocide & support thereof.

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DJBombba@reddit

Government knows domestic terrorism is on the rise and it’s just getting worse. I say the consequences should be extreme like the death penalty, enough is enough. Why keep killers alive and waste taxpayers money to the prison industrial complex.

https://www.gao.gov/blog/rising-threat-domestic-terrorism-u.s.-and-federal-efforts-combat-it

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CandidArmavillain@reddit

The death penalty is almost always more expensive than life in prison and also isn't something that discourages people from killing others

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True-West-8258@reddit

Terrorism is supposed to spread fear.

If this was targeted towards the embassy staffers its more of a political assasination.

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beepboop27885@reddit

Unlawful use of violence to achieve political aims is the definition of terrorism, just so you know

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True-West-8258@reddit

"Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons for political purposes"

What you describe is basically no different than war crimes.

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beepboop27885@reddit

No, war crimes have their own criteria and stipulations. Also a civilian isn't really obliged to follow any of the conventions, they'd be held to domestic laws or the laws of the prosecuting country in such a case

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FursonaNonGrata@reddit

Holy shit. That is NOT good. We are seeing a pretty sharp increase in terrorism incidents in the US over the last few years, huh? Seems like it's only gonna ratchet up now that it's "fighting season".

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Barnaboule69@reddit

Did you guys not live through the ISIS years? I feel like it was worse in the mid 2010's but maybe I'm wrong.

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FursonaNonGrata@reddit

The only REALISTIC terrorism threat that the US Public faces is domestic terror, me thinks. ISIS was mostly happening far away.

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Soggy-Pen-2460@reddit

Well, the gov has a massive apparatus for protecting our borders and keeping out dangerous people, or at least it used to. Hence why homegrown statistically became more likely.

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WaltzIntrepid5110@reddit

No dumbass, there isn't more homegrown terrorists because they did a bad job of catching them at the border.

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Soggy-Pen-2460@reddit

and how many CIA directors have you personally met?

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Barnaboule69@reddit

Not disagreeing there tbh.

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bikumz@reddit

Both of those attacks you mentioned are domestic terrorism.

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Barnaboule69@reddit

In a sense you are right, but I think that there's still an argument to be made that they might not have happened had ISIS not been a thing.

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bikumz@reddit

It’s domestic terror though. Domestic terror is when a terror act is committed by a citizen of the country it’s attacking. Both involved US citizens.

Hate is expressed one way or another. They had issues, found someone that shares same ideas, found people to blame, and a way to let hate out. Plenty of other hate groups with the same concepts as Islam, just hate different people.

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bikumz@reddit

You’re right. Very few attacks aren’t domestic terrorism, but that could be said for most countries who suffer terror attacks. As long as person is a citizen of country it’s attacking in a terrorist attack, it’s domestic terror.

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Herban_Myth@reddit

Conflict is profitable.

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bikumz@reddit

Terrorism in the US has been crazy the past 30 years, it just depends what the news says is terrorism. A lot of active shooters end up being terrorists, very few are not. Most try to spread an agenda by a terrible act to gain attention getting their crazy ideas and notes publicized aka the definition of a terror attack.

Some examples of this are the many examples of Women’s medicine clinics being attacked like planned parenthood, the many Islamic inspired attacks like the Vaughan Foods incident in the mid 2010s, attacks on differing politics like the 2017 baseball shooting or same year 2017 when a guy drove a car through a crowd at a protest against Unite the Right, list goes on.

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Correct_Day_7791@reddit

LOLOL Trump said " Hatred and radicalism have no place in the United States" from the guy hate tweeting every other day

The hypocrisy is so thick it is physically manifesting

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schlongtheta@reddit

American's 1st amendment rights about to get massively restricted. I mean, they may even bring out Obama and Trump side-by-side to reject this horrible act of terrorism and tell the Americans how important it is to stop talking bad about isr/el... and the new laws that will be put in place to keep everyone safe. And they'll all just nod along and go along with it. I mean, this shit is almost certainly a false flag.

RemindMe! 6 months

RemindMe! 30 years

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Janky_Forklift@reddit

Already is.

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schlongtheta@reddit

Thank you. Correction: "America's 1st amendment rights are about to get further massively restricted"

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Raddish3030@reddit

Did someone dance after it happened?

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theeMisterGinsberg@reddit

What’s the big deal? Shit like this happens every day in DC

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lewdest_loli@reddit

🙌

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maeryclarity@reddit

Wow that's not good.

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Floomby@reddit

Even more scapegoating of Hispanic people as terrorists in 3...2...1...

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AuthorityOfNothing@reddit

That's an understatement if it was another case of foreign agents, like the polonium tea or Khashoggi assassination.

I hope they're caught and made an example of. Shit's been getting weird the past couple weeks.

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Tacoman404@reddit

Surely it was a lone wolf but it’ll be blown up into some sort of fascist witch-hunt against anyone who is not a republican

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SHAKETHEBOOT@reddit

Don’t let that get in the way of a good crackdown and roundup.

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AfterImpression7508@reddit

Yeahhh getting Franz Ferdinand vibes from this 🫠🫠🫠

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SoupSandy@reddit

Nah this will be forgotten next week

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AfterImpression7508@reddit

I sincerely hope you are right. In a terrible and darkly funny nod to climate change, we literally are all frogs in a big ole boiling pot.

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No-Beach-7923@reddit

This is what happens when our tax dollars fund the mass killings of children/genocide. Israel is in the wrong.

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babathejerk@reddit

From the bio of woman killed: Sarah was committed to peacebuilding; she received her Masters from the University of Peace in 2022 and was passionate about sustainability and people-to-people relations. Sarah previously worked for Tech2Peace, an organization that brings together young Israelis and Palestinians for intensive seminars which focus both on peacemaking and tech training.

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rabidbadgerbuds@reddit

I definitely dont support this violence

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therapistofcats@reddit

"How does this impact your preps?"

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OptimismNeeded@reddit

I’m an Israeli, we’re actually prepping here.

It’s a shit show.

The weirdest most surreal shit show of my life. And I’ve been through Oct 7.

Not sure life is real right now.

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AquaStarRedHeart@reddit

The title leaves out some details. These two were low level staffers who were engaged to each other and on a date together at a Jewish museum. They were shot outside in what looks like a hate crime. They were killed for being Jewish, yes, but the headline here is trying to tell a story that isn't quite true.

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heloguy1234@reddit

The “killed because they were Jewish” makes it so much worse than “killed because they were Israeli government officials”.

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wagetraitor@reddit

Read the manifesto. Nothing to do with being Jewish, everything to do with working for the genocidal Israeli government.

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X-AE17420@reddit

Life in prison for the fuck head either way :)

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Icedoverblues@reddit

And where do the fuck heads that murder children for the Israeli military. Any prison sentences for them or just more smiley faces?

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DeliriouslyDocile@reddit

What's with the darned whataboutism?!

Killing is bad.
People who kill are bad.

Ergo

This guy is bad.
The fuckheads that murder children for the Israeli military are bad.

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o793523@reddit

Killing is not always bad. Sometimes it's the only way to prevent bad things. I think the other commenter is implying there's a component of self defense or repercussions involved here.

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DeliriouslyDocile@reddit

Uh huh, and how the h-e-double-toothpick was this guy acting in self-defense? He wasn't. He was horrified at the goings-on in Gaza (rightfully so), and dehumanized the other side to the point where he thought it was beneficial (to whom?) to kill two people in the US. I struggle to fathom that there are so many people in here who seem to be absolutely fine with killing, as long as it's the people they don't like. And we wonder why the world is going to sh*t.

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Martzillagoesboom@reddit

Like it should, like any fuck head who take lifes or cause needless death should.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

They are trying to not tie it to their jobs.

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EnricoBelfry@reddit

This is not accurate. The shooter's alleged manifesto has been published (see link in comment above mine). It makes it clear the shooting was due to the victims' roles as representatives of what the shooter called 'a genocidal apartheid government.' The authenticity of the manifesto needs further confirmation.

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AquaStarRedHeart@reddit

Ah, that's interesting. The manifesto hadn't hit the news before I went to sleep. I participated in this thread when it was initially posted. I assumed the two people killed were Jewish but did not assume they were Israeli. Having worked in DC, tons of embassy staffers are American and I assumed such. That's on me. Otherwise I'm confused why asking for details caused me to receive some pretty horrible comments and direct messages about supporting genocide. It is what it is. I thought my comments were pretty directly related to the misinformation going around in the early hours.

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TheProfessional9@reddit

That's horribly sad

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SoooStoooopid@reddit

And also incorrect.

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therapistofcats@reddit

They weren't engaged. They were to be engaged in the coming weeks in Jerusalem. The male wasn't Jewish, he was Christian with a Christian mom. They weren't on a "date", they were there to be celebrated at AJC’s annual Young Diplomats Reception. You got everything wrong.

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RecoveringWoWaddict@reddit

They were killed for being Israeli. Not Jewish. The guy literally says free Palestine at the end of the manifesto. These two people did not deserve to die obviously. But to act like Israel isn’t doing some crazy heinous shit in Gaza is insane. This was definitely motivated by that. I’m so sick of Israelis trying to act like the second holocaust is happening when people take issue with them killing children. People don’t like what you’re doing in Gaza. There are repercussions to your actions.

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True-West-8258@reddit

They were spesifically killed for being employers of the embassy, not even random Israeli.

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Turksarama@reddit

It's basically impossible to say, did this guy actually know they were Israeli? Would he have just shot the first Jews who came out of the museum regardless? This is Schrodingers hate crime, it depends on the unknowable goings on in the guys head.

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SpotResident6135@reddit

The manifesto: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/the-israel-embassy-shooter-manifesto

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Head-Engineering-847@reddit

Bro was taking life way too seriously

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SpotResident6135@reddit

Why would a person be so affected by a live-streamed genocide?

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CountHasimirFenring@reddit

"guilty enough" - Israel regarding killing civilians for real estate

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ratsrekop@reddit

Warning shots for warning shots?

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mwpdx86@reddit

They should ask for some clarification.

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ClintBarton616@reddit

They deviated from their approved route

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griffithlover@reddit

This was obviously a direct response to what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians but this discussion and the US will talk about it like it’s a anti Semitic issue vs anger stemming from the genocide that the USA has been backing

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Nagasakishadow@reddit

Great, now Israel is going to start genociding the USA as the world watches in horror and does nothing. Rules are rules.

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Away_Oil9491@reddit

It all honestly seems staged

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thisbliss7@reddit

That you, Alex Jones?

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Away_Oil9491@reddit

Rabbi Shmuley stop it

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juicysweatsuitz@reddit

"Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory." - Israeli politician Moshe Feiglin

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dewdropcat@reddit

Shouldn't be representing ethnic cleansing.

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One-Dot-7111@reddit

Wonder who was talking to this guy

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noah7233@reddit

Being the new president of Mexico is Jewish, and the shooter is Mexican could this be related ? Maybe it's a cartel related? I don't know why or what it's for I'm just speculating until we hear more information.

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WillingMyself@reddit

False flag operation

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Spunge14@reddit

Guys, relax - it was a Roman shooting

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RoyalNougat@reddit

Good.

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xxiii1800@reddit

F sake. News in europe dominated by this. Whilst our diplomats getting shot in Israël and that is not important.

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CommonRagwort@reddit

Your diplomats were killed in Israel? Or you mean warning shots were fired in the air because they deviated from their route?

Sure, the warning shots were an extremely bad idea but how does this justify murdering two Jewish people at an embassy in the USA?

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Razafraz11@reddit

At what point did they say that those murders were justified? Why’re you so hostile?

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CommonRagwort@reddit

I think actually killing two people at the Israeli embassy is a bigger story than warning shots fired in the air.

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Icedoverblues@reddit

They were not killed at the embassy. So you got that wrong. They were killed for working for the genocidal antisemitic regime in Israel. And warning shots because Israel would murder them before allowing them to bear witness to Israeli atrocities. Cute.

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True-West-8258@reddit

Its a big story, but a supposed allied country shooting at your diplomats is also a big story.

If Russia was cought shooting towards western diplomats we wouldn't hear the end of it.

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Razafraz11@reddit

I think both are pretty terrible

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AquaStarRedHeart@reddit

They weren't murdered at an embassy. Has anyone in here clicked on the article?

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CommonRagwort@reddit

Sorry, they only work there. Everything is fine.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israeli-embassy-staff-washington-dc-1.7540699

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AquaStarRedHeart@reddit

Details really are important. Yes, I know they are embassy staff -- but they were murdered outside the Capitol Jewish museum while on a date by a man who stated his motive outright.

It's terrible and it's terrorism but there's no evidence they were murdered over anything but being Jewish -- which is worthy of a conversation. Reducing them to their jobs glosses over that a bit, doesn't it?

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CommonRagwort@reddit

"There's no evidence they were murdered over anything but being Jewish"

I think that's a pretty big deal. Rhus was done on purpose. The person that murdered them was shouting "free Palestine" too.

If you don't think Donald Trump isn't going to use this crack down on protests, I don't know what to tell you. It definitely doesn't help the pro Palestine cause.

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AquaStarRedHeart@reddit

Of course it's a big deal. Are we not agreeing?

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Lazy-Abalone-6132@reddit

USA has become a venue for foreign wetwork.

Not a good sign of things to come.

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