got a 200 that operates almost daily out of YEG, no sound kit no emissions kit. Only noise and dirty exhaust. Sounds like a rocket ship at full throttle.
-200. It's officially a NT-43A based off the T-43 which is a 737-200. Only -100 remaining is NASA 515, the first 737 and a former NASA research aircraft, it's in The Museum of Flight in Seattle now b
On aircraft the flag is always positioned away from the nose. Imagine it being attached to a flagpole and then flowing in the headwind of the aircraft’s motion. It’s correct this way.
Anyone who could tell you for sure definitely won't, so we're all just guessing. My guess is that:
AWACS, at least the ones the Americans use, have mechanically steered antennas. That's okay if you need to scan the whole sky anyways, but a waste of time if you want to focus on one spot.
AWACS operates in a fixed band (or a few fixed bands). To test stealth, you probably want to test it with different radar frequencies used by different countries, search radars, targeting radars, and so on.
Emissions and reception not happening at the same station has always been a bit of a weakness for stealth planes. This plane can probably receive reflections from different ground stations and different distances and angles.
I think it is a one off if I remember. It is rarely seen publicly as it is one of the most sophisticated test beds for US aircraft and their components. It’s not meant to be around normal stuff
Or just about anything that they want to test low observable tech on, including ground equipment. It's rumored the Chinese has synthetic aperture radar satellites now, so it's a smart move that the AFMC brought RAT55 back out of mothballs to do some testing.
Very interesting. I see this is rare. Assuming this is a current photo, it is interesting that it is operational, given the legacy engines on that older airframe. I suspect the USAF isn't going to tell anyone.
WRT to its role, IDK if it is a test aircraft for radar measurement, but I will say that airborne measurements for RCS have been a thing for awhile. Did some of that initial work a long time ago. Typically RCS testing is done on a range with a model where the model is adjusted (upside down sometimes) to get the right perspectives in the polar plots. Models can sometimes be the actual aircraft (usually stripped out). We would also get a lot of measurements by flying near the ground station where the subject aircraft would be required to maintain some crazy attitudes (reference to the ground) in order to get the right angles. Some of the most difficult testing I think I've ever done. But its actually a lot more accurate (and safe) to get it airborne in its actual environment, the way an airborne adversary would be looking.
Looks like it came in yesterday just after noon and has been sitting out there since. Seems to be a very odd place for it to park. Suppose it may be working with L3 Harris on the Athena later this week?
I know L3 Harris is a defense contractor, and one that does alot in the aviation space.. Guessing Athena is a current project/contract of theirs but don’t know what it is
sageinfinite@reddit
That thing is allergic to something 😅
PeckerNash@reddit
Thats an OLD 737 chassis!
kingkevv123@reddit
good old fuel to noise converter
Queen_Waffle64@reddit
got a 200 that operates almost daily out of YEG, no sound kit no emissions kit. Only noise and dirty exhaust. Sounds like a rocket ship at full throttle.
TheSovietLemon@reddit
Hey now, NLW does have a hush kit, if only the internal part of one though lol.
Queen_Waffle64@reddit
I refuse to believe that it is hushed at all. It’s a rocket at full throttle and shakes my Pushback when it leaves.
PeckerNash@reddit
One of the Northern Canadian airlines that service NWT and Nunavut? They run older 737 with rough field kits and retractable stairs.
Queen_Waffle64@reddit
I was talking Nolinor with there 737-200 C-GNLW. They operate daily with service from YEG - YZF. Almost every morning around 7 am.
MetikMas@reddit
I flew on one in Venezuela last year. Definitely was an experience.
swirler@reddit
Single overwing exit. Is this a -100?
emf686@reddit
-200. It's officially a NT-43A based off the T-43 which is a 737-200. Only -100 remaining is NASA 515, the first 737 and a former NASA research aircraft, it's in The Museum of Flight in Seattle now b
Alarming_Lifeguard85@reddit
The American flag backwards? Or has my recollection of the American flag failed me?
482Cargo@reddit
On aircraft the flag is always positioned away from the nose. Imagine it being attached to a flagpole and then flowing in the headwind of the aircraft’s motion. It’s correct this way.
Alarming_Lifeguard85@reddit
Thank you for that interesting insight, which I wasn’t aware of.
HuronMountaineer@reddit
Probably getting ready to relocate to run tests on our new Qatari gifted AF1
Automatic_Tea_2550@reddit
For the uninitiated, what are we seeing here?
Sad_Refrigerator7233@reddit
RAT55. 1 of 1 used for testing stealth aircraft rumored to live at Area 51
F14D201@reddit
Rare enough and Secretive that all the websites show the Airframe as Scrapped
Yussso@reddit
I don't know anything about radar but why don't they just use something with big ass radar like AWACS?
SyrusDrake@reddit
Anyone who could tell you for sure definitely won't, so we're all just guessing. My guess is that:
AWACS, at least the ones the Americans use, have mechanically steered antennas. That's okay if you need to scan the whole sky anyways, but a waste of time if you want to focus on one spot.
AWACS operates in a fixed band (or a few fixed bands). To test stealth, you probably want to test it with different radar frequencies used by different countries, search radars, targeting radars, and so on.
Emissions and reception not happening at the same station has always been a bit of a weakness for stealth planes. This plane can probably receive reflections from different ground stations and different distances and angles.
OnlyEntrepreneur4760@reddit
I know nothing about radar, but I’m guessing that they’re using the length of the plane to create a very large aperture radar.
CommonBitchCheddar@reddit
A plane that got stung on the nose by a bee.
faster_tomcat@reddit
And on the butt, too.
broberds@reddit
A bee bit my bottom! Now my bottom’s big!
Automatic_Tea_2550@reddit
Well, your diet might have something to do with that too ;)
Automatic_Tea_2550@reddit
An alien bee, if the rumors are true.
Captainrexcody@reddit
One of the rarest planes around
Individual-Battle874@reddit
Why is it rare?
Captainrexcody@reddit
I think it is a one off if I remember. It is rarely seen publicly as it is one of the most sophisticated test beds for US aircraft and their components. It’s not meant to be around normal stuff
TheTarus@reddit
Is there a more rare plane that we know of?
lordtema@reddit
In terms of sightings, the RQ180 is rarer, but likely found in bigger quantities. But as far as manned planes go, then no.
TheTarus@reddit
What's the rarest?
rckid13@reddit
It's RAT55. It's a military 737-200 that has massive radar on board. Probably for testing new stealth fighter/bomber technology.
nighthawke75@reddit
Or just about anything that they want to test low observable tech on, including ground equipment. It's rumored the Chinese has synthetic aperture radar satellites now, so it's a smart move that the AFMC brought RAT55 back out of mothballs to do some testing.
SRM_Thornfoot@reddit
An older 737 going for the Botox.
mano_de_hierro@reddit
Jimmy Durante mod
Gilmere@reddit
Very interesting. I see this is rare. Assuming this is a current photo, it is interesting that it is operational, given the legacy engines on that older airframe. I suspect the USAF isn't going to tell anyone.
WRT to its role, IDK if it is a test aircraft for radar measurement, but I will say that airborne measurements for RCS have been a thing for awhile. Did some of that initial work a long time ago. Typically RCS testing is done on a range with a model where the model is adjusted (upside down sometimes) to get the right perspectives in the polar plots. Models can sometimes be the actual aircraft (usually stripped out). We would also get a lot of measurements by flying near the ground station where the subject aircraft would be required to maintain some crazy attitudes (reference to the ground) in order to get the right angles. Some of the most difficult testing I think I've ever done. But its actually a lot more accurate (and safe) to get it airborne in its actual environment, the way an airborne adversary would be looking.
3rd_rock_misfit@reddit (OP)
This photo was taken 5/21/25
MRCHICKENSTRIP@reddit
This is the best answer, and yes they do some RCS and other sensory detection/measurement tests
Big-Cupcake9945@reddit
737 Elephant Man Edition
jcla@reddit
Here's an old article about the aircraft with some more details: Goleta Air & Space Museum - NT-43A Radar Test Bed Sighted in Death Valley
482Cargo@reddit
Neat! Didn’t know this existed.
Appropriate_Sea9277@reddit
It spends a lot of time at Edwards.
SirHenel@reddit
“You know, I have a friend who’s a surgeon who could help you with that hump.”
“What hump?”
raspoutine049@reddit
Was this plane bit by bees?
Crimson__Fox@reddit
This bee to be precise
MortonRalph@reddit
Did you ever get bit by a bee?
backdoorjimmy69@reddit
Once, but only because I was playing with it too rough.
Individual-Battle874@reddit
Great Picture
SuperRaccoon17@reddit
This plane is used for measuring radar returns on low-observable aircraft. I guess any aircraft really. It’s been sighted out here in SoCal!
Photoelasticity@reddit
Wouldn't that also be useful for spotting small things, like a drone?
EdMonMo@reddit
XNA?
3rd_rock_misfit@reddit (OP)
Yes
EdMonMo@reddit
Looks like it came in yesterday just after noon and has been sitting out there since. Seems to be a very odd place for it to park. Suppose it may be working with L3 Harris on the Athena later this week?
Isme1@reddit
can you please ELI5? what is L3 Harris and Athena?
eightstravels@reddit
I know L3 Harris is a defense contractor, and one that does alot in the aviation space.. Guessing Athena is a current project/contract of theirs but don’t know what it is
Syrdon@reddit
Internet says some sort of ISR platform:
https://www.l3harris.com/newsroom/press-release/2023/10/l3harris-leidos-and-mag-aerospace-team-us-armys-hades-aerial-isr https://www.army-technology.com/news/us-army-contracts-l3harris-and-mag-to-develop-two-isr-aircraft/
Also, damn but Army Theater Level High-Altitude Expeditionary Next Airborne is a tortured acronym
yuvattar@reddit
Must have been a huge bee.
techsnapp@reddit
Which airport?
Try_me_9@reddit
nice
Kelvavion@reddit
It got stung by a bee
rtuck06@reddit
This is the plane version of the Strange Wilderness Shark Scene
Eastern-Ad-3387@reddit
It’s got tumors
CardinalOfNYC@reddit
Thankfully, these are very treatable with radiation.
Danitoba94@reddit
It got punched in the snout :<
TheTense@reddit
Quit being such a Nimrod
stan_cartman@reddit
It must fly in highly radioactive areas.
Voodoo1970@reddit
It's nart a tooma!
Unknownblueuser@reddit
Does this mean it has No APU or was it relocated ?
No-Pattern852@reddit
where?
RealMarielaxo@reddit
That such a clean shot👌
icanucan@reddit
Ugly x-duckling To
...fun fact: spell correct wanted to make duckling dicklong...now when I type dicklong it wants duckling.
smaad@reddit
It really like the 737-200, if I'm not wrong it's the one with those tiny turbo engines.
Alarming_Lifeguard85@reddit
Which flag is on this aircraft‘s tail?
JoshS1@reddit
The US flag.
LiveFlightDeck@reddit
The 737 been lying lately, its why its nose is elongated.
RogueScholarDerp@reddit
There also appears to be a large protruding rectal mass. These are Mets. Nose to exhaust port. We need a doctahhh.
DasbootTX@reddit
Dr says that perfectly normal but that protrusion coming out my tail. Nothing to see, all normal. Moving on….
AboveAverage1988@reddit
It ate a bee, didn't it?
WeatherGuys@reddit
It looks like someone made an actual plane from the drawing of a plane that 8 year old me once made!
iliketomoveitm0veit@reddit
Hey man, got any of them elints here?
Appropriate_Sea9277@reddit
Test bird from Edwards.
jggearhead10@reddit
Edwards? More like installation that doesn’t exist on the Nellis range of
i8TheWholeThing@reddit
Is that actor Karl Malden?
42ElectricSundaes@reddit
Like it’s been muzzled
PatMcRotch210@reddit
Trip the the surgeon eh?? Lol
ThatHellacopterGuy@reddit
That’s a rare bird…
curiousnc73@reddit
Rare picture!