Hundreds of rural hospitals are at risk of closing, threatening critical care
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n0pe-nope@reddit
What a strange article. They make it seem like it’s a single entity deciding to pay rural hospitals less than urban ones. Then go on to say private insurance pays more than government insurance. It’s got to be intentionally misleading, right?
The reality is rural Americans are dependent upon GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. They all voted against that assistance by voting in this lunacy. It’s about to get much worse, but articles like this dislocate action from consequence.
YeetedApple@reddit
Can confirm this from personal experience. I was just laid off from a rural hospital and it is not looking good for them staying open much longer. They are already closing small clinics they had in smaller communities around the area and mass layoffs in the main campus. I also know we aren't the only one and several other hospitals in the area are in the same situation.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Wait till they remove 8-10m rural Americans from Medicaid.
n0pe-nope@reddit
Rural America voted for this.
VanillaFunction@reddit
Could you or anyone possibly explain to me where this is coming from? I don’t mean it offensively genuinely asking as someone who has family on Medicaid. I ask because from what I’ve read I’ve only seen things like adding work requirements and making renewal more of a challenge. Is there anything more specific in place that would ultimately lead to kicking that many people off or is it just more like the theory that these new barriers would potentially lead to that?
Fragrant-Swing-1106@reddit
How they define “able-bodied workers”, is troubling to begin with, and can theoretically launch millions of people (the elderly, people facing mental health challenges, new single mothers, etc.)
Here is Reuters article from 2 weeks ago outlining the ways that republicans were seeking to eliminate coverage and what kind of impact that will have.
I will say that lots of the numbers we are seeing are sensational, but based on the proposed work requirement ALONE it’s not unreasonable to imagine that maybe 6mn (out of +70mn if memory serves, roughly 8%, WILL lose coverage
They, of course, want to eliminate publicly funded healthcare and this is them driving nails sweating over a musty coffin. I still dont get it.
noplanman_srslynone@reddit
The budget bill they are passing (has passed the house). Here is AIs take )
The bill being considered would result in significant cuts to both Medicaid and Medicare. Medicaid spending could be reduced by nearly $700 billion, and Medicare could face mandatory cuts of nearly $500 billion due to the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act (S-PAYGO). [1, 2, 3]
Medicaid Cuts:
• The bill proposes reducing federal Medicaid spending by nearly $700 billion. [2]
• Some states could face additional cuts, such as a $131 billion reduction in federal funds to 33 states and D.C. from 2028 to 2034. [4]
• The bill includes provisions for states to impose cost-sharing on Medicaid enrollees with incomes above the poverty level, potentially leading to additional cuts and limiting access to care. [5]
Medicare Cuts:
• The bill could trigger a $500 billion reduction in Medicare spending due to S-PAYGO, which would kick in if the bill increases the deficit. [3]
• S-PAYGO would likely result in automatic 4% reductions to most Medicare spending, including payments to hospitals, physicians, Medicare Advantage plans, and standalone prescription drug plans. [1]
• While some spending to support low-income beneficiaries is exempt, most Medicare spending is not. [1]
AI responses may include mistakes.
[1] https://www.kff.org/quick-take/house-reconciliation-bill-could-trigger-500-billion-in-mandatory-medicare-cuts/[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBAIPKS2pk[3] https://www.medicarerights.org/medicare-watch/2025/05/22/broken-promises-republicans-budget-reconciliation-bill-would-cut-medicare[4] https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/house-republican-bill-grows-even-harsher-cutting-medicaid-funding-to-states-that[5] https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/house-republican-health-agenda-cuts-coverage-raises-peoples-costs
Oralprecision@reddit
I’m a rural dentist that works in two hospitals… both hospitals are out of XL gloves and the two distributors we use are “expecting delays.”
Get ready for my hands in your mouth baby.
Aurora1717@reddit
Just wait till they cut Medicaid.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
100s of thousands of deaths first week. It's going to be insane
Aurora1717@reddit
The one that keeps me up at night is the nursing homes. About 60% of nursing home patients are on Medicaid. What are they going to do, push them out in the streets like when they closed the asylums? Many of them are completely indigent with no family to care for them.
I also keep thinking about dialysis patients. The majority of people with end-stage renal disease requiring dialysis or on Medicaid. It won't take too many skipped treatments for them to go into organ failure.
ForthrightGhost@reddit
This is called Democide. We’re at the point where the people in our government are doing things that kill people through policy.
ScoobyCute@reddit
It’s probably killing more conservatives than democrats but definitely still a very bad thing.
ForthrightGhost@reddit
Yeah, possibly. I see it as anyone that utilizes the safety nets, but if we were to look up the voter demographics, it’d probably be more Republicans.
SharpCookie232@reddit
It's Malthusian economics.
ForthrightGhost@reddit
That’s part of it. They’re just evil though.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Honestly, I don't see medical care workers going along with it. I bet doctors and nurses just keep giving people needed care regardless of coverage. It's easy to ignore a few clients without coverage, but it's very hard to ignore a majority of your patients all at once.
TexasRN1@reddit
That’s not how it works unfortunately. Hospitals will make big cuts, starting with nurses. Doctors pay will get cut and they will start leaving. Canada is actively recruiting us now.
QueenOTM@reddit
Can confirm, as a nurse in Canada we have a major shortage of doctors many leave for the states for better pay. I can see the reverse happening
ZombieAaronSchwarz@reddit
"Canada is actively recruiting us now."
But able to receive a small fraction of the skilled workers wanting to relocate. Canadian economy cannot support the number of workers seeking to leave. It will drive up competition and lead to a glut and probably wage depression. And Canadian medical professionals are already paid less than US counterparts on average, with an equal or greater cost of living in many Canadian metro areas.
GeneralSpoon@reddit
Which is one of several strong reasons for Canada to seek to peel off a few bordering US states, particularly those with lower population counts.
BelAirBabs@reddit
Canada may not take just any American worker who wants to come to Canada, but I think TexasRN1 was referring to medical professionals. Canada has a doctor shortage and is actively recruiting American doctors.
https://doctorjobs.physiciansforyou.com/usa
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/canada-aims-lure-us-doctors-north-amid-trump-turmoil-2025a1000aoh
Canadian doctors do not make as much money as American doctors, but they make a good living. Cost of living varies widely in Canada. British Columbia is typically higher than Nova Scotia. Considering the current American political climate and having RFK Jr. at HHS, many American doctors think the trade is worth it. I have a family member who is a physician and is in the process of transitioning to Canada.
TexasRN1@reddit
Yes I meant doctors and nurses. I listened to a zoom seminar about it yesterday. Of course they can’t absorb all of us, but it sounds like they have plenty of opportunities.
BelAirBabs@reddit
From what I have heard, Canada would love to have you, a trained nurse.
sodoyoulikecheese@reddit
The hospital I work at is already making huge cuts. Hundreds of people were let go with no notice. Nurses are being cut. Outpatient clinics are being closed. The NICU beds will be halved. No more pediatrics, all kids will be sent to the closest children’s hospital.
A big worry is long term care for the elderly. White Americans are going to need to get comfortable with multigenerational living a lot more quickly than we realize. Nursing homes and adult family homes are going to close and there will be no where else for them to go except home with their adult children.
ecstaticthicket@reddit
And all this for absolutely no other reason than the people who are already unfathomably wealthy want even more, and that money has to come from somewhere. I can’t say what I honestly believe should happen to the people behind this, but I imagine as time goes on and the reality of how fucked this is becomes harder and harder to ignore that more and more people will agree
4peaks2spheres@reddit
I'm imagining it happening over night. Might be enough to make some medical care workers step up, even without pay.
Exciting_Cress_7654@reddit
Would you wipe asses for free out of the goodness of your heart?
4peaks2spheres@reddit
I would if it was part of keeping a human alive, yes. You take an oath as a healthcare worker, you know, the hippocratic oath, the oath to do no harm. Throwing out a shit ton of patients would definitely be doing harm. I'm sure there are some medical professionals that oath seriously.
Salty-Performance766@reddit
Healthcare workers aren’t going to save the day. The bigger problem though is that you can’t take care of anybody without the consistent supply of everything that goes into taking care of people. Healthcare workers are only as good as the technology they have.
LongjumpingDebt4154@reddit
Technology… and supplies. There will be no wipes to wipe said asses with.
Salty-Performance766@reddit
Ass wipes are technology too
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Correct, I didn't say it'd be a permanent solution, what I'm saying is I don't see them just stepping aside.
Salty-Performance766@reddit
They will step aside. I’d give it a day or two maybe unless you think that the government will respond to the crisis.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
I guess we'll find out very soon 🤷🏽♂️
Exciting_Cress_7654@reddit
And then how are they supposed to pay the rent?
4peaks2spheres@reddit
I'm not saying this is a solution. I'm just saying we're going to have a crisis of morals on our hands and some will step up to do what they can.
TexasRN1@reddit
that part we don’t know. I believe the cuts are over a few years, but it will affect the hospitals right away I’m sure. This is going to be brutal if passed.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Right, no way to know until it happens I guess.
terid3@reddit
This is happening at my local hospital. First cuts are to pediatrics, maternal and fetal health, as those are the majority of Medicaid clients. Pregnant women and kids being hit first.
TexasRN1@reddit
41% of all births are covered by Medicaid. Hospitals will just close down labor and delivery. They can’t absorb that kind of cost.
terid3@reddit
Seniors are also being affected as my dad, retired on social security and Medicare reports. He drives a lot of seniors in his building to appointments, and according to him many are losing coverage or having to switch providers. Remaining providers are a much longer drive.
terid3@reddit
P.s. he is a conservative, loves Elon musk. He is not making this up.
TexasRN1@reddit
Yes there are $500 billion in Medicare cuts.
terid3@reddit
Brought to us by the "pro-life" "Christians". It's really sick.
inknglitter@reddit
It doesn't matter if they're willing if they don't have the supplies to give care with.
Suppliers will absolutely stop delivering if bills aren't paid promptly, and most hospitals operate on lean inventory management principles, so there isn't much on hand at any given time.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Right I'm not denying that reality
Aurora1717@reddit
It wont take long for the hospitals to run out of cash on hand for payroll.
inknglitter@reddit
And supplies.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Then they'll have another crisis on their hands
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
That's fine and good until they need supplies.
GreyerGardens@reddit
With what? Medical care requires supplies, equipment, drugs, a freaking building with electricity - how are doctors and nurses supposed to just keep providing care with out care providing tools?
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Until they run out is my guess 🤷🏽♂️ I don't imagine it would be for long and I assume hospital executives would cut power to the hospitals at some point.
bdone2012@reddit
They’re at least supposed to be kicking off people who are able bodied and can work. Not the people who are in nursing homes. I’m sure they’ll make plenty of mistakes as they do.
But I don’t think they’re going to kick out the majority of people on Medicaid in nursing homes. Cutting Medicaid by this much money will have all sorts of ripple effects that will likely be terrible.
I’m very against what they’re doing and it will be bad, probably very bad. All I’m saying is this change doesn’t seem like it’ll be quite as bad as you’re imagining. It’s an incredibly low bar but I don’t think they’re going to kick out most people on Medicaid in nursing homes.
slendermanismydad@reddit
I'm curious about those vent farms. People are going to lose it when they start taking them off.
Fabulous-Dig7583@reddit
WTH is a vent farm?
Ingawolfie@reddit
Be glad you’ve never set foot in a vent farm. It’s a facility where patients who cannot be weaned off ventilators, or are taking a very long time to be weaned off, are kept.
Ok-Requirement-Goose@reddit
Vent farms?
scott32089@reddit
Can confirm changes at mine today. Effective immediately, 2.5 full time nursing positions were cut. 4 down to 3 nurses for: 70 people. Cutting OT hours from the new legislation too. The older nurses that can only work 8 hours are essentially going to be pushed out.
Stormy8888@reddit
Well. Just better hope you don't live in a filial care state. Because to survive, those nursing homes who now can't get Medicaid will hire lawyers to go after the children of their patients to pay the bills.
mrs_fartbar@reddit
I believe a diagnosis of end stage renal failure qualifies people for Medicare, regardless of age. At least that’s how it’s been, we’ll see what happens
renomegan86@reddit
I think you have to have been fully disabled for two years. I read A LOT about this today so hopefully it’s not jumbled together.
Temporary-Panda8151@reddit
Well, they're having to make cuts to that as well.
Striking-Fig7810@reddit
Yes. We are going back to before the new deal.
LongjumpingDebt4154@reddit
This will be Covid deaths on steroids
Striking-Fig7810@reddit
They’ll issue a bullshit EO to prohibit counting the deaths as an “un-American, hostile, and inappropriately political act of sedition”
Immortal-one@reddit
My wife's boss told her that the current cuts the hospital is doing doesn't affect them for now. But if Medicare and Medicaid get cuts, even we,one of the biggest hospitals in the state, will start feeling the pain.
It's a good thing toktok was saved so people can get their medical information from there from now on.
the8bit@reddit
I live near a large set of university hospitals and so hopefully they are more resilient to what is coming. But, legitimately we are considering moving back to the west coast out of fear that medical care availability is going to become a top concern for where to live.
Most of our local non critical services are already overrun and triage only at best
diwhychuck@reddit
Almost like a purge like status if they do.
here-i-am-now@reddit
Anyone who votes yes or signs the budget bill will be a legally immune murderer.
AdrenochromeDream@reddit
"Ah! Shit! The leopards weren't supposed to eat my face!" - Them
Glittering_Set6017@reddit
I said this in a prepper group last year about why it's better to be in a city and got downvoted to hell. Y'all have fun in your rural bunkers with no access to medical care. That's the first to go. Most other community resources will follow soon after.
two-story-house@reddit
Let them close. They overwhelmingly voted for this. Wouldn't be surprised to see a drop in life expectancy like we saw during COVID.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
This is evil and you should be ashamed of yourself. Like don’t even “whatabout Mango Mussolini,” you’re advocating for these people to enter the Find Out stage, of which will kill tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. Knock it off with the political brinkmanship and have some humanity.
s1gnalZer0@reddit
At some point we need to stop saving them from themselves. We keep bailing them out, then they scream about tax money wasted on socialist handouts to hospitals and demand tax cuts, the hospitals close, and we have to bail them out again. We need to let the kid touch the hot stove sometime. It's the only way they're going to learn.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
There is a difference between letting the kid touch a hot stove, and letting the kid play with a loaded gun. They should be held accountable, but a line must be drawn. Trump delayed in COVID aid to cities because they were democratic strongholds. This subreddit’s reaction to this news is much the same.
ecstaticthicket@reddit
When the kid starts pointing that gun at my head and the heads of people I’ve loved my entire life, you won’t catch me running to stop him when he point it at himself. Yes, a horrific number of innocent people will die, but at a certain point you just get tired of trying to save people that hate you from the consequences of their own actions
New_Vast_4505@reddit
You use a loaded gun example like we don't live in America The Land Of Guns...
two-story-house@reddit
Nothing I said is evil. Or "political brinkmanship." It is up to the politicians they elected to do something. Access to affordable healthcare should be a basic right for everyone but unfortunately, this is not the country or type of society we live in.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
It is their elected representatives’ responsibility yes, but also it is a terrible thing to laugh at the deaths while you’re at it. Like we can acknowledge that a school shooting is caused by politicians not regulating guns better without laughing at the dead children. Not only people who voted for the guy will be impacted. These policies hurt everyone.
New_Vast_4505@reddit
Those dead kids didn't vote to prevent gun regulations. Nothing wrong with pointing out people advocating against their own interests and sympathy is not required.
two-story-house@reddit
Where in my comment am I laughing or poking fun? Everything I said in my original comment is factual.
No shit Sherlock! That is apparent to everyone who is paying attention. Dude, you're just spiraling at this point.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
This is pretty damn dismissive almost to the point of laughing at the situation.
two-story-house@reddit
It's not dismissive. It is fact. I'm not laughing at the situation or being glib. Maybe pause and reflect to figure out why people saying the truth out loud bothers you so much.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
You can be 100% right and factual, and still yet be dismissive.
We both agree that this is bad. We’re talking past one another at this point.
Georgex2inthejungle@reddit
No lol
If there are no consequences they will continually think they made the right decision
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
You’re sick.
CanoegunGoeff@reddit
What you fail to understand here is that these MAGA cultist motherfuckers are so god damn reactionary that they will NEVER stop trying to destroy everyone and everything until it affects them directly and intensely. It is literally the ONLY stimulus their little underdeveloped limbic ass smooth brains are capable of understanding.
Them experiencing the “find out” is the ONLY thing that even remotely triggers any semblance of critical thought among these folks.
Most of us have been pushed so god damn far by these belligerent asshats that we have zero empathy for them. I do not care what happens to them.
Don’t get me wrong- it pisses me that fuck off that people are going to be hurt or worse by the closing of hospitals and the lack of access to care. So pissed in fact, that if anyone affected by it happens to have voted for this? Nah, no empathy.
I’ll help the folks that didn’t ask for this. But not those who did.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
This subreddit will wax poetic about how the Republican Party has spent fifty years dismantling education (true) but then go and have zero empathy for the low-information, moron, dumbass rank-and-file voters who fell victim to Mango Mussolini, the GOP’s messaging, and the MAGA cult.
CanoegunGoeff@reddit
It takes nearly nothing to question your own beliefs and think about things, especially with how hard a lot of us have tried to spoon feed them the most basic of 3rd grade logic using the most basic vernacular and the most robust evidence imaginable.
Yes, education has been under attack for half a century, but even so, it doesn’t take much to not be fooled by most of the right’s propaganda, or at least to be skeptical of most of it.
I’m no scholar. I’m not well read. I’m a community college dropout who works with my hands, and I grew up in a religious Republican household.
My own parents aren’t realistically any less educated than me. But they are reactionary narcissists. Maybe that’s the difference. I don’t know.
But I’m tired of playing nice with the people who are actively hurting me, my friends, and hundreds of thousands of folks that I don’t even know.
I’m done tolerating intolerance and I’m not gonna coddle the idiot who keeps touching the hot stove until it gives them third degree burns after the four millionth time we’ve told them to stop touching the god damn hot stove. I’ll sit back and watch them lose their own hand.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
I’m not talking about tolerating intolerance, just having empathy.
I don’t think a lot of these people have ever been taught to question their beliefs and think for themselves. It may be easy to take that ability for granted but imagine growing up in a fundamentalist evangelical household where questioning authority is viewed as evil.
CanoegunGoeff@reddit
Evangelicals? The ones who said that empathy is a sin? I won’t give them any then. Wouldn’t want to commit a sin, now would we?
Fabulous-Dig7583@reddit
You are sick. Get help.
Quick_Ad_3367@reddit
And at the same time empathise with the same uneducated mass among the black communities that rioted.
You can literally say ‘they voted for it’ when the US is literally what made the Palestinian genocide possible as a result of the logistical support given to Israel.
As a foreigner to the US, I didn’t expect that even prepper subs would be full of such primitive political propaganda.
CampaignLower379@reddit
They fucked around, now everybody gets to find out.
Ok_Ebb_9330@reddit
I agree with u/two-story-house fuck em I’m tired of taking the high road when all they do is make my life more miserable. So yes I can’t wait for them to find out. I’m on healthcare fyi and I’m tired.
OutlandishnessOk7997@reddit
Did they? Election truth alliance
two-story-house@reddit
Yes. Trump won 93% of rural counties in 2024.
https://eig.org/rural-america/#:~:text=Donald%20Trump%20won%2093%20percent%20of%20rural,counties%20went%20for%20him%20%28in%20both%20elections%29.&text=Share%20of%20rural%20counties%20won%20by%20Democrat%20candidate%2C%202000%2D2024.
A-Supurb-Owl@reddit
You realize this won’t affect just the adults/voters, but also children and teens?
two-story-house@reddit
Yes just like the impending cuts in Medicaid. It is very unfortunate that so many people are going to suffer. I would hope that the American citizenry will wake up but I doubt it. Will probably turn into a, "he's hurting the wrong people" moment for them with no self reflection or acknowledgement that they voted for exactly this.
bluewar40@reddit
Libs becoming more reactionary every second of Trumps presidency. Lmao.
Silent_Trees_831@reddit
Imagine how lame you have to be to call everyone Libs like some sort of half lit, half wit😬😂
I’m a republican before you try to pop off with something clever😉😂
Just tired of seeing my side act like a bunch of bitches that they’re supposedly calling out😂
Deus_is_Mocking_Us@reddit
My RWNJ mom lives in Appalachia, and has been blaming Obamacare for the closing of rural hospitals for the last 10 years. Can't wait to hear her take on this.
Whole-Signature-4306@reddit
“I’m passionate about rural healthcare “ is the #1 med school student lie.
Heavy_Requirement_62@reddit
Rural EMS hoping to go rural Md or Do
undaunted2025@reddit
Well you have to say something convincing before the pivot to derm.
Whole-Signature-4306@reddit
Residency location choices for the girl who got into med school with that line in her interview:
Miami, Palm Springs, St Louis
She never was gonna live in Peoria Illinois
cliddle420@reddit
This is what people in rural areas overwhelmingly voted for
Extension_Editor1987@reddit
Maine is about crumble, its most oldest (on average) population in the nation. It’s giant state, a lot of it is rural. Most of the population is on the coast specifically the southern coast (Portland,Freeport etc) and even that part the nursing homes are closing down, wings of hospitals closing, shortage of home health nurses to scratch the surface. I haven’t been to much of the middle rural part but I can only imagine how much more they’re lacking up there. And that’s just one state…
WashiBurr@reddit
Maine is a blue state so they're probably giddy at the thought.
Purdaddy@reddit
Im still waiting for something like a New England agreement where these states (and maybe a few others just outside New England) set up some sort of cooperative and do their own medicare/caid thing.
Extension_Editor1987@reddit
Most of those old people voted red I don’t want this for them either even though they’re ignorant just like you are
Chevelle604ss@reddit
They voted for it
daviddjg0033@reddit
Doctors were already taking a hit being a primary care doctor or a rural doctor. I remember listening to a pathologist that said he was "just a rural doctor from the plains" who moved to the city that had vast knowledge in medicine. The rural pay was an issue before states started passing laws that put doctors in jail over abortion. Who could foresee that doctors do not like the threat of prison?
Stormy8888@reddit
Anyone with a functioning brain, which rules out a lot of people who last read a book in High School, but yet, they can happily vote based on Facebook misinformation. Those people who still believe the Tariffs are going to be paid by the other country, Obamacare sucks but they love their affordable care act, and Mexico was going to pay for the wall.
TannerCreeden@reddit
Reds
MayorSincerePancake@reddit
Isn’t this what many rural communities chose?
therapistofcats@reddit
it's also what many of those rural people didn't chose.
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
Thank you! I get so tired of people dismissing or disparaging an entire race, gender, religion, state, or generation or other grouping.
Rhetorically, how is hating all rurals without knowing them any better than hating all Mexicans without knowing them? How is hating all Boomers any more virtuous than hating all gays? It’s just another form of bigotry.
If you want to feel schaudenfreude for the people that voted for it, go ahead and feel that for the people that voted for it but realize that it’s taking down many who did nothing to bring this on and have tried just as hard as you did to prevent it.
two-story-house@reddit
This is not at all the same thing. 92% of rural counties voted for Trump (source: https://eig.org/rural-america/#:~:text=Donald%20Trump%20won%2093%20percent%20of%20rural,counties%20went%20for%20him%20%28in%20both%20elections%29.&text=Share%20of%20rural%20counties%20won%20by%20Democrat%20candidate%2C%202000%2D2024.)
Do not compare bigotry and racism to factual data.
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
I don’t believe those numbers
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
92% is not 100%. I live in a rural area that went closer to 60%. But it’s ok to wish us all ill I guess.
two-story-house@reddit
I'm not wishing anyone ill. It is up to the local and state government to tackle this issue. Access to healthcare has always been an issue for rural areas and hospital closures have been accelerating over the past decade. What are your representatives doing about it? What have they been doing? If they wanted federal funds, have they been lobbying for it?
New_Vast_4505@reddit
Agreed, it is like people forget the percentages when trying to explain how "not everyone from xyz voted for Hitler"... well you know what, enough of you did that my sympathy is being saved for people who actually deserve it.
MayorSincerePancake@reddit
But the majority did, so this is just news instead of prepper intel I would think. It’s not like it’s a surprise.
therapistofcats@reddit
So the few should suffer because of the many? Great ethos you got there.
But you think these hospitals are closing now because 5 months ago a new guy took office? Or is this just something that's been happening for years in rural areas across America? Hmm
New_Vast_4505@reddit
Pretty sure 5 months of budget cuts and staff cuts would cause hospitals to close faster...
MayorSincerePancake@reddit
I won’t be lectured by a cat rapist
therapistofcats@reddit
You must be a real sick person to even think of that.
Snark_Connoisseur@reddit
omg you did not Tobias Funke like that right in the open in the cold light of day
therapistofcats@reddit
I am more of a Sean Connery guy.
https://youtu.be/cFdS7SaaYu4?si=cx5Vu56KeU9f82v6
LescoBuck@reddit
It literally says it right there. The. Rapist. Of. Cats.
atari-2600_@reddit
Some rural communities are blue. I live in one.
here-i-am-now@reddit
Tyranny of the majority
Fabulous-Dig7583@reddit
Like when they were treatening peoples jobs if they didn't agree to take an experimental drug?
bluewar40@reddit
Libs becoming more reactionary every second of Trumps presidency. Lmao.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
These are actually overwhelmingly rural republican voters that are losing coverage.
Fabulous-Dig7583@reddit
Most blue cities are shitholes, though.
One-Dot-7111@reddit
Good. People must learn the hard way in America because we're so brainwashed.
Logical___Conclusion@reddit
This is a big component of why Trump is estimated to kill at least 350,000 Americans in the next four years alone due to his cuts.
There is no one who knows more about serial killing Americans than Trump.
MrNokill@reddit
He's well on his way there again, all I can say is "no" and see what happens.
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
After trump killed a million Americans in his first term I have no doubt he'll kill millions this time around.
Most-Repair471@reddit
Still won't be enough to budge the needle on die hard conservatives and cult members. It will take H5N1 jumping to humans and killing 10s of millions before there is any movement away from this regime.
Immortal-one@reddit
But didn't Pam bondi say he saved 300 million American lives in his first week alone from fentanyl overdoses? So what's 350k plus 1 million from COVID when he can save a billion Americans in a month?
Magickarpet76@reddit
That is just Americans too. Dismantling USAID surely killed tens of millions.
thereadingbri@reddit
I think that estimate is crazy low, so many people will die if they start having to turn patients out from nursing homes and memory care facilities. And thats not accounting for a second epidemic or pandemic occurring during his regime - the odds of which tick higher every day that RFK jr is head of HHS.
sparta1170@reddit
The amount of people upset over how most of us who didn't vote for Trump feel is cathartic. MAGA voters wanted this to happen and now they want us to feel for them? Fuck no. Let. Them. Die.
Fabulous-Dig7583@reddit
You. First.
InspectionAgitated20@reddit
y’all knock it off with the political brinkmanship and have some fucking humanity. Jesus fucking Christ, yes Mango Mussolini is bad, yes they voted for this, but nonetheless, people are going to die because of this in perhaps the tens or hundreds of thousands. Have some damn respect.
thereadingbri@reddit
And none of the kids voted for this. Not a single child in rural america asked to be born in a rural community, not a single one asked to be born to conservative parents who vote for things like this, and not a single one voted for this themselves. If you can’t have empathy for the adults who live in these rural communities at least have some for the kids.
whatiseveneverything@reddit
This will always be the primary sin that a society can commit. I think we need to fundamentally reorient society with regards to children similar to labor, sufferegette and civil rights movements.
slendermanismydad@reddit
It's not just the money, it's largely not worth being a doctor in those places. Medical school costs the same but your pay is lower, they're more clique oriented and in everyone's business because it's smaller, and you can't get pharmacists to fill drugs if they think they're evil or whatever and you can be put in jail for helping women.
No one wants to spend $300K and 12 years for that to earn half the pay and live in Nebraska. The trade off for living away from other people is that you are away from other people.
Dandan0005@reddit
Pay for doctors is actually higher in rural communities because doctors generally don’t want to work there.
Hospitals throw big $$$ at them to attract them.
As soon as Medicaid goes away, so will those doctors.
Ok-Requirement-Goose@reddit
We are being colonized, turns out it’s deeply unpleasant.
overitallofittoo@reddit
Voting has consequences
GrowFreeFood@reddit
Gotta pay for the golden dome. Because we need to save American lives. But not in a hospital, not like that.
clownPotato9000@reddit
LupusDeiAngelica@reddit
About 80 large hospitals are expected to fail and close this year.
Scary-Button1393@reddit
Land doesn't vote, but rural people wanted this.
I hope they planted bootstraps.
renomegan86@reddit
This is what I keep trying to tell my rural trumper relatives but they just don’t fucking get it. You’ve got one hospital in the county and it already sucked. Huge portion of people with chronic disease (kidney, diabetes, HBP) reliant on frequent care. They’re so excited for the New Golden Age.
Jimimninn@reddit
They voted for this.
bluewar40@reddit
Libs becoming more reactionary every second of Trumps presidency. Lmao.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
These are actually overwhelmingly rural republican voters that are losing coverage and facing hospital closures.
It's going to get a lot worse once they realize Trump also gutted FEMA. Housing prices in S Florida have already bottomed out due to it.
Blue city hospitals are doing fine.
r/leapordsatemyface
therapistofcats@reddit
Did they?
https://ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=110927
https://ruralhospitals.chqpr.org/Reports.html
There is plenty to blame Trump for but this failure has been going on longer than he has been in office.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
The feds have never cared about the much needed infrastructure that would help working class Americans. It's just more overt now.
therapistofcats@reddit
Yeah. I hope Dems run a solid progressive candidate with universal healthcare at the front. I am tired of the corpo picks that only benefit the wealthy. It's funny (or not) listening to Phil Ochs in the 1960s singing about this issue...and we are still here 80 years later trying to get SOMETHING to help working class Americans. This country truly hates it's working class.
Gonna_do_this_again@reddit
They won't, they'll run another milquetoast candidate that nobody wants and will say "If you don't vote for us, you get them"
4peaks2spheres@reddit
I wonder what it'll take for it to come to a head. They seem to have mastered giving us just enough so we don't rebel on a mass scale.
No_Programmer_5352@reddit
It is certainly plausible, if not probable, that they voted for it every four years prior to 2024 as well.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
We're about to have the exact same problem as Russia's medical system... The feds really give no shits about working class Americans huh? What makes it even worse is the we'll be enduring this without universal healthcare.
DarkMatter-Forever@reddit
Out of curiosity, can you tell me more about Russian healthcare system, are you Russian?
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Not Russian but they've been suffering chronic understaffing issues due to govt set pay scales and workload not being realistic. It got so bad during covid a number of nurses were actually arrested for not working over doubke shifts
Blood_Casino@reddit
“Just put some Ivermectin on it”
jlr181986@reddit
This is their entire plan is to get rid of the surplus unusable population
swadekillson@reddit
It's okay, Trump will save them.
/S
partime_prophet@reddit
Voting has consequences. Oh well , I will write u a prescription of thoughts n prayers. Problem solved :)
dyslexic-alien@reddit
Damn, time to invest know caskets and incinerators!
Solo_Camping_Girl@reddit
I live in a country where rural areas had little to no free government-run healthcare. And if there is privately-run healthcare, it might still be inadequate or too expensive. I do fieldwork for my current job and we often interview healthworkers in these areas. Most of them practice active monitoring of at-risk people, particularly those that are highly likely to need medical aid such as the hypertensive. They monitor these people to identify if they will need further help. I think this would do well for areas with shutting down healthcare centers, consider it as foreshadowing for any potential health risks and acting before it gets worse.
Another thing these people do is to identify local flora that can be used as alternatives to medicine. I had one worker tell me that residents cultivate the Serpentina (Snake Grass) plant in lieu of hypertensive medicine, brewing and drinking it like a very bitter tea. It's free and abundant.
I hope that you guys over in America begin to look at taking matters into your own hands and don't hold your breath for the state to save you. This is coming from somebody from a country whose government can't provide the basics even in the capital city, let alone in the countryside.
Herban_Myth@reddit
Thank you Conald!
Tariffic Job!
Now that the Wall is finished we can spend taxpayer dollars on a “Golden Dome” so people can forever remember the Golfer of America!
Hoovervilles 2.0? Barren hearings at 1AM?
No_Vacation369@reddit
That’s what they get for their voting preferences. Dummies voting against their own interest.
Cute_Ad4654@reddit
Bye bye maga morons. Unfortunately some good people will get caught up in this.